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Should Liu Che be primary? [test results might surprise you...] Rise of Kingdoms

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Chisgule Gaming

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@Chisgule
@Chisgule 11 ай бұрын
ARE YOU PLANNING TO USE LIU CHE AS THE PRIMARY OR SECONDARY? drop a comment with your preferred pairing & subscribe with notifications on so you don't miss the next vid! discord.gg/chisgule
@kubigariya111
@kubigariya111 11 ай бұрын
Will probably use him as primary but that is simply out of a desire to cast the march speed debuff as quickly and as frequently as possible
@bernardcamot3194
@bernardcamot3194 11 ай бұрын
He is secondary of my Scipio 😊
@3mar.s7
@3mar.s7 11 ай бұрын
Probably secondary for scipio or sargon
@sheeshkenny668
@sheeshkenny668 11 ай бұрын
Primary but with Pyrrhus
@b-stainton123
@b-stainton123 11 ай бұрын
Just to let you know he’s far stronger with Alex overall.
@csnation
@csnation 10 ай бұрын
Note that a lot of Liu Che testing all relies in his expertise. That is what makes him great with Sargon. If you are saving heads and just planning to 5511 him first until more Smite commanders are released, still put him behind Scipio or Martel. Skippy because you are doing double AOE and Martell if you already have guan + skippy and just want a tankier secondary march. Martel doesn't boost skill damage but all his passive stats do help . Plus Martell is "free".
@Alenthoras
@Alenthoras 11 ай бұрын
Sooooo what's with Alex? Is it good or not! We get it that LC with Sargon is busted but what about other infa coms? I wanted a video with explanations and i m looking forward to it. Thnx again for awesome content!
@gabrielsimoes1730
@gabrielsimoes1730 11 ай бұрын
The attack tree is very good for duels because of effortless talent, specially when you cover its lack of rage generation with a horn of fury and a commander that can double proc horn and rage talents.
@jamielane8696
@jamielane8696 11 ай бұрын
True and in murderballs it's hard to stay engaged with 1 target for atleast 10 seconds when you're constantly switching targets and rage loading
@TAETO1585
@TAETO1585 11 ай бұрын
​@@jamielane8696I believe it still works with rage loading, as long as you don't leave combat (i.e. get the mail with a report)
@manuelvelasco2761
@manuelvelasco2761 11 ай бұрын
Attack tree was always good for rallys and duels. We just didnt have a commander like liu who benefits these crazy much from it. Open field i still think sargon will do better unless they swarming you
@mrtrolldavid7313
@mrtrolldavid7313 11 ай бұрын
Ty for posting this vid! I was debating which of my coms should be primary then I realized I don't know a talent tree for Liu Che lol. Keep it up!
@alirosheno9473
@alirosheno9473 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, it's so related to me because I just have scipio expert in my first SOC HA and ready to expert Liu Che Scipi expert - Liu che expert is badass combo with really fast rage + horn of fury
@Crowitzki
@Crowitzki 11 ай бұрын
Really think Gorgo in open field will be pretty usable at 5511. Cant wait to see the testing when it comes out
@IIHYINGNLII
@IIHYINGNLII 11 ай бұрын
Hi Chisgule, would you prefer an expertised Liu Che with a 5550 Sargon, or an expertised Scipio Prime with a 55x5 Liu Che or a 5551 scipio with an expertised Liu Che? Im judging between the latter two because i see scipio’s expertise need a silence effect to work which scipio and LC combo lacks, and the skill damage boost does not work with Liu Che.
@PanicRL
@PanicRL 11 ай бұрын
Can we have some testing on phyrrus aswell? We skipped that last test😮
@pj7333
@pj7333 10 ай бұрын
What’s you new open field lineup? We need an updated video on the best 7 open field matches.
@W-Bob
@W-Bob 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 11 ай бұрын
Ty for the super thanks!
@chiheb384
@chiheb384 11 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain to me please? If Liu che isn't expertised, there won't be any additional "RED DAMAGES" added to Sargon's skill damages? Or how does it work ??
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 11 ай бұрын
That’s correct, Liu che must be expertised for this
@kazumayato6877
@kazumayato6877 11 ай бұрын
I though you were also talking about Liu che primary or secondary paired with scipio 😢
@ejnt00217
@ejnt00217 11 ай бұрын
Me too! 😕
@kobemuic
@kobemuic 11 ай бұрын
Me three!
@stormboy231
@stormboy231 11 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you test feral nature all the way? I feel like that’s the best part of the skill tree and that way you can generate rage much faster. Plus LC is doing extra normal attacks just don’t see why you wouldn’t test that
@felipemurta9160
@felipemurta9160 11 ай бұрын
rage cap probably
@lilsheck99
@lilsheck99 11 ай бұрын
imo for like anyone who rocks multiple marches does liu works well openfield, providing the necessary buffs/debuffs rather than focusing on duels.
@sojiroseta8393
@sojiroseta8393 11 ай бұрын
Okay now, if we use Liu primary and sargon secondary could you tell us if we should switch to arch formation and which stats to go after on the armaments please?
@JamalWinslow
@JamalWinslow 11 ай бұрын
Health - Defense - Attack. Normal attack inscriptions
@sojiroseta8393
@sojiroseta8393 11 ай бұрын
@@JamalWinslow If we continue with sargon primary should we also go for arch formation?
@hiroshima99
@hiroshima99 11 ай бұрын
@@sojiroseta8393yes.. arch formation can be use to them
@NguyenGruppen
@NguyenGruppen 11 ай бұрын
Tariq / Liu Che doing good in open field. Liu che expertise help defense tree with rage. Hit like a truck.
@somevoter
@somevoter 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Really informative. Now the next question is, wedge or arch formation for liu primary?
@zkx2417
@zkx2417 11 ай бұрын
Arch deff
@felipemurta9160
@felipemurta9160 11 ай бұрын
@@zkx2417 no, wedge would be better. The main damage dealer in sargon liu che is sargon with skill damage. The whole point of this combo is making sargon active skill better
@zkx2417
@zkx2417 11 ай бұрын
@@felipemurta9160 yea your right!!
@sojiroseta8393
@sojiroseta8393 11 ай бұрын
@@felipemurta9160 But sargon deals normal damage, so wedge does not work on him right?
@MageArtGreenDragon
@MageArtGreenDragon 11 ай бұрын
totally wrong, go for arch don't listen to these guys lol@@felipemurta9160
@AxonIsBored
@AxonIsBored 11 ай бұрын
Does Liu Che get extra benefits from equipment since it is just raw stats? Also... can you plz run the sames test with Scipio Liu Che....I dont have any heads for Sargon
@fabiogravano2115
@fabiogravano2115 11 ай бұрын
What is the future for Infantry rally and Greece civ? Just wait 1 year? I do not see any viable rally pair for inf right now… Pakal has done his job…
@whoiswho7838
@whoiswho7838 10 ай бұрын
Hi ! Bro pls suggest 2 of the 3 best accessories to be used for liu che from ring , horn and dagger .. thnx
@gindaandre5325
@gindaandre5325 11 ай бұрын
I always good trade with battlefield scipio primary and secondary Liu Che
@ivanli4763
@ivanli4763 11 ай бұрын
Use LC as primary especially not enough gh for sargon up from 5550
@arkiszeus5608
@arkiszeus5608 11 ай бұрын
Did anyone try pirus+che
@gabrielehamil9222
@gabrielehamil9222 11 ай бұрын
Hello everyone, i have expertised Alex, Harald, Guan and Scipio. What investment would you recommend?
@georgeosamaa
@georgeosamaa 10 ай бұрын
I feel like Guan/Sargon & Scipi/Liu is a better combo for a murder ball! can anyone relate?
@apacheattackhelicopter8185
@apacheattackhelicopter8185 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tests, but... - You say that not everyone has Sargon and that is true. So why not test with Scipio? - You say it is normal that Nevsky/Huo win because they are both single damage, but infantry is supposed to counter cavalry and cavalry has higher move speed. Also, why not test with Nevsky/Joan who does AoE ?
@mattlucas4242
@mattlucas4242 2 ай бұрын
If I have a maxed Alex going into kvk3 and enough gold heads to max a kvk3 commander who should I get?
@MFJoyBoy
@MFJoyBoy 11 ай бұрын
I'm using Martel-liu, debuff of commanders like alex & scipio will apply to three targets and half of Sargon skills doesn't work with liu but Martel buff will apply for all the targes and you get all the benefits of liu aoe, Martel is also a good place to put a high dps commander and protect it
@jamielane8696
@jamielane8696 11 ай бұрын
You're using this in SoC? how often would you get targeted with martel as primary. I wanna run martel-liu too but i figured LC should be primary
@MFJoyBoy
@MFJoyBoy 11 ай бұрын
@@jamielane8696 I'm using Martel as primary I'm running with three inf march, Martel will get good report even if he targeted
@MFJoyBoy
@MFJoyBoy 11 ай бұрын
@@jamielane8696 Martel & liu have good harmony, counter attack will boost by liu and reduce skill damage taken+extra defense make Martel really tanky
@MFJoyBoy
@MFJoyBoy 11 ай бұрын
@@jamielane8696 it's not a top tier march as current meta but works good
@janokskilos275
@janokskilos275 11 ай бұрын
What talent tree are you using on Martel ?
@MatiasZarzar
@MatiasZarzar 11 ай бұрын
Hey Chisgule bro…Hope you be fine as your family…about equipment should i craft the pieces of the set that gives normal attack???
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 11 ай бұрын
Wait to craft until new equipment system is in game
@MatiasZarzar
@MatiasZarzar 11 ай бұрын
@@Chisgule thanks a lot bro…keep the way…💯💥👏🏻👌🏼🙏🏼💪🏽
@corndog5667
@corndog5667 11 ай бұрын
Id like to see testing with ring of doom and if Louie procs it more often and/or if it changes results. Willing to bet that it does. Additionally, would like to see how Armaments can sway the battle. Overall still going to invest, as Mr. Louie looks super good. 👌 Thanks for the vid!
@rafaelmediodia1414
@rafaelmediodia1414 10 ай бұрын
Liu will not double activate Ring of Doom because it has a cooldown of 5seconds upon activation.
@madking222
@madking222 11 ай бұрын
What about pairing? Liu with Scipio good or with Alex ??
@gummibear2793
@gummibear2793 11 ай бұрын
I saw test results from Liu/Alex that were better than those from Liu/Sargon, My Sargon is currently 5/5/5/0, what makes more sense now, Doing Liu/Alex or Liu/Sargon?
@floriangabriel2489
@floriangabriel2489 11 ай бұрын
I have Scipio, Sargon, Alex Guan, Tariq, Liu I would like to do three steps, what would you do and in what order?
@hosam39
@hosam39 11 ай бұрын
Guan Alex . Scipio tariq . Sargon liu
@kinghayden1449
@kinghayden1449 11 ай бұрын
I have guan/scipi and pakaal/harald, shall I get liu che?
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 11 ай бұрын
Depends on the rest of your ball but yes I think Liu Che will be very good
@kinghayden1449
@kinghayden1449 11 ай бұрын
thanks for replying chis@@Chisgule
@crepitus3552
@crepitus3552 11 ай бұрын
Do we know when Gorgo will be available? is it worth dropping 700 gold heads on Liu Che if my next kvk won't be until December?
@felipemurta9160
@felipemurta9160 11 ай бұрын
unless you need a inf to pair with someone I'd wait for new acher, though he might come only after your fighting starts
@madhatter3493
@madhatter3493 11 ай бұрын
Gorgo most likely drops next mge cycle
@donmarchini
@donmarchini 11 ай бұрын
What about pair him with phyrus?
@user-vc1kx8ld4x
@user-vc1kx8ld4x 11 ай бұрын
Does Sargon work at 5550 with LC expertise?
@gemmamarie1982
@gemmamarie1982 11 ай бұрын
Hey guys I’ve not been on the game for a while and my accounts have been deleted is They anyway of getting them back ? Appreciate any help
@swordsaint9712
@swordsaint9712 11 ай бұрын
How about Liu Che/alex ? 😂, you might say alex is outdated and he is even with relic however they have pretty good synergy. Someone test Liu Che alex vs Sargon Liu and manage to score a win by a small margin twice.
@hiroshima99
@hiroshima99 11 ай бұрын
in kvk im not gonna use liu/alex or it just gonna be hospital filler because no one duel 1v1 in murderball but i will use this combo in ark due to march speed..
@mohammadsn8677
@mohammadsn8677 11 ай бұрын
@@hiroshima99 Alex has massive debuff and as i know he is not dueler commander! And if he do great in duels with Liu so they are great pair specially in murder ball! If you say hospital filler think about your guan which is garbage in def🤣
@KarasuHarumichi
@KarasuHarumichi 11 ай бұрын
fleisch actually tested liu/alex and its actually legit strong
@diwaslimbu3163
@diwaslimbu3163 11 ай бұрын
guan is garbage if 2nd commander is not tanky like leo or scipio but still people using more because of his high damage and silence thats why @@mohammadsn8677
@felipemurta9160
@felipemurta9160 11 ай бұрын
I believe chisgule tested it once against boudicca zhuge and it performed horribly so he didn't bother with it anymore. However, that was probably an outlier. All the other tests that I saw alex liu che was an insane march
@ibozbelgaming
@ibozbelgaming 10 ай бұрын
where is the scipio-liu che test ,,,, i don`t have sargon....😒
@paulomartins2546
@paulomartins2546 11 ай бұрын
Hey chisgule if you have time I commented in your live stream when you tested Liu Che primary. I put the minutes marked in the comment I did, you can see by yourself, I think the player with Liu Che had wrong talent tree.hope you see this comment this time, and go check the live stream comment 😅. Thanks have a nice day
@minersstone3676
@minersstone3676 9 ай бұрын
Please can you do best infantry pair for f2p
@bimatriasbela7249
@bimatriasbela7249 11 ай бұрын
Still want see sinergy with gorgo
@kurseng
@kurseng 11 ай бұрын
Is LIU CHE coming to wheel or what? I don't think there will be another new infantry except for the MGE that is going to be released?
@kobemuic
@kobemuic 11 ай бұрын
He's a wheel commander, You can confirm this by clicking on the + sign on the skills page and will show you the source of where you can get his sculptures and it will display wheel of fortune
@timwright9429
@timwright9429 11 ай бұрын
Yeah he is going on the wheel and Gorgo is MGE
@cacingkremi5752
@cacingkremi5752 11 ай бұрын
idk, thats why you post this comment to help people making decision at least for me 😅 yeahhh im gonna using liu as primary, fix!
@kobemuic
@kobemuic 11 ай бұрын
I'm wondering about Scipio + Luiche combo as I don't have Sargon
@timwright9429
@timwright9429 11 ай бұрын
Yeah same. I am currently using Skippy with Alex as my 1 inf march and I would like to know who to work on to pair with Skippy to replace Alex
@mre73
@mre73 11 ай бұрын
Biggest advantage of using Liu Che/Sargon is than you can leave Sargon at 555x
@whoiswho7838
@whoiswho7838 11 ай бұрын
Bro alex or scipio primary for the arms training ?
@hosam39
@hosam39 11 ай бұрын
Scipio
@Hey_hello0211
@Hey_hello0211 10 ай бұрын
Alex primary To cast shield faster so you take no damage from arm training barbs at start of the turn
@darenramcharan8322
@darenramcharan8322 11 ай бұрын
What is going on governors!!!
@reinmandagi4769
@reinmandagi4769 11 ай бұрын
Liu che must max?
@patryksliwinski4903
@patryksliwinski4903 11 ай бұрын
Here 😀
@darlascott8766
@darlascott8766 11 ай бұрын
I used maxed Skippy and Liu
@bernardcamot3194
@bernardcamot3194 11 ай бұрын
Same
@JamilAhmad-go5tb
@JamilAhmad-go5tb 11 ай бұрын
I am telling you, they will introduce a Smite tree soon ✌️
@mre73
@mre73 11 ай бұрын
Until I see Liu Che tested with Pyrrhus and Gorgo, I'm not buying into Sargon being the "best" pair
@nightsky938
@nightsky938 11 ай бұрын
Me too. I haven’t seen anyone tested it but im curious how well the 40% normal attack damage from Pyrrhus boost smite and their total 40% skill damage reduction
@Coregame3
@Coregame3 11 ай бұрын
why Pyrrhus
@nightsky938
@nightsky938 10 ай бұрын
@@Coregame3 40% normal damage boosts smite damage. Together they also have 40% skill damage reduction flat
@juva7527
@juva7527 11 ай бұрын
So in the end better scipio/liu che or opposite?
@oravla8470
@oravla8470 11 ай бұрын
Better liu che sargon
@juva7527
@juva7527 11 ай бұрын
@@oravla8470 but I don’t have Sargon lol I only have skippy
@Hey_hello0211
@Hey_hello0211 10 ай бұрын
Skipi liuche much better bro.. dont worry its the best infa pair in kvk lol... no one do duel in kvk and take sargon for that.. Just run scipio primary and liuche as secondary.. you gonna get so much better result than those running with liuche sargon/ liuche alex
@paddylodi1724
@paddylodi1724 11 ай бұрын
Is Liu Che viable at 5511 on a SOC KvK?
@oravla8470
@oravla8470 11 ай бұрын
Probably, but expertise is a must over time
@Richard-ll3ne
@Richard-ll3ne 11 ай бұрын
Inf defeating archers and Cavalry defeating inf tf is this
@MoosieUwU
@MoosieUwU 11 ай бұрын
Bros thumbnail really said 😐
@Agha808
@Agha808 11 ай бұрын
1
@CPoppaB1tch
@CPoppaB1tch 8 ай бұрын
It's just crazy that cav are weak vs infantry yet every time cavs always beat infantry. Something isn't right. Cav is better and faster.
@xiwang4275
@xiwang4275 11 ай бұрын
Using Sargon and Liu is wrong to start with. Scipio and Liu is always the best, not really much a point to keep testing and testing tbh Is the same as when Sargon released everyone knows Scipio and Sargon is strongest but no one uses this
@SempaiSays
@SempaiSays 11 ай бұрын
Hi I am first
@user-km3xs8ds1j
@user-km3xs8ds1j 11 ай бұрын
FIRST?
@johncourtney271
@johncourtney271 11 ай бұрын
First
@-D-du7lm
@-D-du7lm 11 ай бұрын
i watched it live if i remember correctly LC is not expertised on this test
@W-Bob
@W-Bob 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
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