Should Millennials and Gen Z RENT or BUY In Today’s Housing Market?

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Freddie Smith

Freddie Smith

2 ай бұрын

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@seanpellerin5703
@seanpellerin5703 2 ай бұрын
What I'm hearing isn't that I should be renting or buying. I should be crying.
@inwiththenew414
@inwiththenew414 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully your parents will leave a little something for you. Every dog has its day... a windfall, an inheritance, a promotion/bonus. Keep saving and pounce when the time is financially right
@DB-rp2gj
@DB-rp2gj 2 ай бұрын
Some people Don have parents that have that kind of thing. My mom has no home, she rents an apartment. My dad left nothing as he us now dead and he was renting am apartment too.
@inwiththenew414
@inwiththenew414 2 ай бұрын
@@DB-rp2gj Understood. Use your parents as an example of what not to do. I'd look for ways to save money (live with roommates, share utility/tv/internet bills, buy basic reliable cars like Honda/Toyota, etc.). Buy a house in a decent area further out of town and get roommates to offset mortgage. Make sure your credit is in the 700s+. Take advantage of any 401k matching at work. Try to have several methods of savings/investments going. Start small and make sure you're making the right decisions bc if you don't make a lot of money you might not get a 2nd chance
@StarBoyyX
@StarBoyyX Ай бұрын
Child support took most peoples last chsnce
@itsmenatika
@itsmenatika Ай бұрын
And there's me who is trans and have got to get on her own as soon as possible :3 I think I'm gonna live under the bridge
@myramedchan4775
@myramedchan4775 2 ай бұрын
Buying is better if you can afford it... but most cant afford it 😕
@dariusreedo
@dariusreedo Ай бұрын
Part of the problem
@myramedchan4775
@myramedchan4775 Ай бұрын
@@dariusreedo wdym?
@dariusreedo
@dariusreedo Ай бұрын
@@myramedchan4775 good question. I agree with the comment. It is like picking your poison. However there are other ways to invest, because the other problem is paying high interest and the rare and tear of the property. 2 problems.
@rathelmmc3194
@rathelmmc3194 Ай бұрын
Buying is only better if you live in the house for around 10 years. In a normal environment houses appreciate at the rate of inflation. There’s transaction costs associated with buying and selling a home.
@slx
@slx Ай бұрын
Its basically double rent costs until you pay off the mortgage then its half the rent cost. If you can afford double the rent, then ya why wouldn't you. O wait how many people can afford double the rent for 30 yrs?
@a50ftfall6
@a50ftfall6 2 ай бұрын
Basically you're screwed either way
@drewskyGALE
@drewskyGALE 2 ай бұрын
False. As a homeowner at least you'll have equity. So in 30 years if u have nothing to your name you can at least sell your house for a million $.
@potobserver9191
@potobserver9191 2 ай бұрын
How are you screwed when owning a home? You can use home equity to do things such as starting a business or getting into real estate. This is what all the rich people do. Take out 50k in home equity, use that money to put a down payment on a single family home, fix it up, and either sell it or rent it out. If you rent it, then guess what? Now you have more home equity as the market goes up, and someone else is paying the mortgage, and you might make 200-400 a month. And you dont have to wait for it to paid off. As you pay it off, you have it appraised, and the money you've already paid off will be included in your home equity. You can continuously roll over each house to buy more houses, or you can just use it to store value. Either way, having a home is much better as it gives the owners potential to grow their wealth.
@Bennumark
@Bennumark 2 ай бұрын
Fool, that mil won't be today's money's worth. Since '71 the $ has lost over 90% of its value; that mil would be pocket change by then.
@nathanh5778
@nathanh5778 2 ай бұрын
@@Bennumarkbad comparison. The video compares 30 years apart. Your comparison is 53 years apart. True inflation eats away at the value of your dollar, but that’s just a fact of life and if you don’t get on board, the life train will leave you sitting out in the desert all alone.
@Bennumark
@Bennumark 2 ай бұрын
​@@nathanh5778 The point is the dollar is becoming worthless with every passing decade. Noticed how expensive everything is? Remember how much you could get with just $20 a few decades ago compared to now? We r living in a time where $100 is considered chump change now; imagine how much it'll be worth in a few decades, if not a few years from now. There will be no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for the average joe.
@kavar7075
@kavar7075 Ай бұрын
Ok. So here is the problem. To qualify for a 400k+ home, you need to make 120k+. USA average is 80k right now. I make 80k. With no debt, a great credit score and money for a down-payment. I only qualified for a 300k home, which doesn't exist. It's not that I don't want to own a home. It's the system won't let me buy one or afford one. So I am stuck renting. Funny part is a payment on a decent home would be only 200 more a month than my rent...but the lenders say "I cant afford it"...but i can, easily I can. Its rich keeping my and nearly everyone my age. 30s +/- down. Simple as that.
@sarahb8073
@sarahb8073 Ай бұрын
I've been squirreling away money for a house for almost 12 years while I was young and city hopping. That plus interest is the only way I can afford a house right now. I'm also looking for something under 400 which is hard but not impossible (450 is the median not the bottom). Hopefully things become more affordable but unfortunately delayed gratification and frugality is the way of the millennial. Good luck to you out there it's rough
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
It's not that they're really saying you can't afford it; they're saying they don't want to take the risk of lending their money to you. Much of this is a reaction to what happened during the 2009 financial crisis, when there wasn't much concern about the risk and a lot of borrowers defaulted on their loans. That really created a lot of mistrust in the industry... not fair to people like you, who had nothing to do with the crisis, but it is what it is. The reality is that you, as a single person making 80k, can't qualify for that 400k mortgage, but a couple that each makes 80k can easily qualify. And that's how these homes are being sold these days: couples that together have double the average income. (I saw this recently on my street, two homes that sold for about 600k each. New owners in each are a young couple, no kids, both work in some kind of professional job.)
@bluesbrother2383
@bluesbrother2383 Ай бұрын
You know couples can make that much money pretty easily
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
@@bluesbrother2383 "You know couples can make that much money pretty easily" Exactly. And that's how people are buying houses these days: young couples with dual income. This is the same way my boomer parents did it back in the 70's and 80's. Which is a big part of what's overlooked in this discussion... the boomers were married couples that had dual income and bought a house with that dual income. More young people these days are staying single and wondering why they can't buy a house on their single income... then complain that it's all the boomers' fault because they were able to buy a house back in the day (with their dual income.) I have a lot of cousins that are millennials or GenZ. All of them that are married and have dual income have bought homes in southern California (and not in the cheaper areas... all of them are $800k+). None of them would have been able to buy their home with a single income.
@colbyharrington6166
@colbyharrington6166 Ай бұрын
We also have an issue with work. A concept most fail to realize. 10 years ago, you were proud to have a job. Today, we complain for 20 an hour at Walmart while texting the entire work shift.
@yunggloboxing4718
@yunggloboxing4718 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think people would be renting if they had a choice
@22lostservice
@22lostservice 2 ай бұрын
I would. I dont have kids and wont. No need to pass on wealth. I have also seen so many of my elders saddled with a home they can no longer care for. No thank you. Im an elder millinial I know I'll never get to retire so Ill keep renting a place that does maintenance for me.
@rathelmmc3194
@rathelmmc3194 Ай бұрын
@@22lostservice exactly. The SFH space is good for families. All these single people buying homes makes no sense to me. Why would you want money tied up in an asset that doesn’t make money for you. A primary residence is a liability.
@mollygrace3068
@mollygrace3068 Ай бұрын
@22lostservice Even if you don’t have kids, the equity is helpful in your old age. You can sell the house or rent it out to pay for independent or assisted living. You don’t have to buy a house, you could buy a small condo just for you.
@rathelmmc3194
@rathelmmc3194 Ай бұрын
@@mollygrace3068 except most the time the cost to rent and buy are at parity. Ever since the standard deduction has been increased the only thing making buying cheaper was the lower house prices. Now you might as well just rent and invest the difference.
@mjaynes288
@mjaynes288 Ай бұрын
​@@mollygrace3068 If I don't like the rules where I rent I can find another apartment. Dealing with a condo board would give me nightmares.
@ljss6805
@ljss6805 Ай бұрын
All I'm hearing is "find the nearest underpass, pitch a tent, and you'll retire richer than homeowners or renters."
@danmorgan3685
@danmorgan3685 2 ай бұрын
"Person who paid their house off" is doing a fuck ton of leg work. A lot of people can't finish paying it off. Also, the whole housing crisis is due to people not having enough money for things like down payments. To be honest before rents hit $7k a month the whole economy will collapse. Remember wages have been stagnant for decades with no relief in sight.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
Not exactly true. Some wages have stagnated... the wages for people at the low end of the spectrum. Wages for people that are creating the innovation that drives the economy have been increasing quite well. What's happened is that as the economy has progressed, incorporating more technology and allowing us to be more productive, the labor of people that are relatively unproductive and unskilled has become worth relatively less. This is why wages for those people, in the modern economy, have stagnated. The solution is simply that those people need to find the skills and education that allow them to participate in the modern economy. The economy rewards people based on the value of what they contribute, it's as simple as that.
@iaimboti
@iaimboti Ай бұрын
@@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Innovation doesn't drive the economy.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
@@iaimboti Maybe my phrasing was misinterpreted. I'll clarify: innovation drives progress, and progress is what causes the economy to grow. When I used the word "drives", this is what I meant. It's why our society today is far more technologically advanced, far more efficient and productive than it was 30 years ago. Innovation creates progress. This is why all the founders of the major tech companies are mega billionaires. They didn't just take all that money... it was given to them. It was society's way of acknowledging the value of the innovation they created, of the progress it gave to the economy. That's how people become wealthy in this country: create a new idea, and if society can use your idea to be more productive, you will be rewarded. If you want to consider what keeps the economy moving forward... then sure, that's all the people working, doing their jobs, producing goods and services. But without innovation and progress, our economy would just do the same thing over and over... i.e. much like Cuba. Innovation grows the economy; workers keep it rolling forward.
@iaimboti
@iaimboti Ай бұрын
@@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk A lot of them didn't actually make anything new, they either took the credit for someone else's work, stole it, or lied, Elon is a prime example of at least 2 of those options. Don't forget they also lobby the government to pay way less in taxes, and have loopholes put in intentionally to pay even less, they abuse workers any chance they can, think of normal/poor people as dirt, and they only care about themselves and their money.
@BlueNelso279
@BlueNelso279 Ай бұрын
​@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk There's no reason why everyday Americans can't afford a home and take care of a family. I understand what you're saying, but forgetting about a large part of America is not the answer. A lot of people aren't interested in living in a high-tech society and enjoy simple living and a multitude of jobs that go along with that. They shouldn't be forced to become part of this innovation and have the opportunity to pursue something else they enjoy while being able to afford simple necessities. There's also not enough jobs in the market that you're talking about to support millions of jobs that need to be replaced. You should probably chose you're wording differently because calling the people who have kept society running unskilled and uneducated shows you're youth and lack of life experience. What you explained sounds great on paper but the reality of the situation is more complex and intricate.
@rubenmocuta3109
@rubenmocuta3109 2 ай бұрын
And in 2054 a dozen eggs will be 1.35mil$
@SirReptitious
@SirReptitious 2 ай бұрын
Oh that's adorable that you think eggs will still be legal to buy in 2054....
@rubenmocuta3109
@rubenmocuta3109 2 ай бұрын
Nobody said anything about legality. Preppers will be outlawed, and you will not own anything and be happy eating bugMac ​@SirReptitious
@2kar804
@2kar804 2 ай бұрын
@@SirReptitiousyea according to the WEF we will be eating bugs, own nothing, and be happy about it by 2030. Looking at how good their puppets has done the past few years- it’s scary how hard they’re pushing for it.
@rathelmmc3194
@rathelmmc3194 Ай бұрын
@@SirReptitious why would eggs be illegal to buy in 30 years? All the chickens going to die? Because I’m pretty sure the farmers still want to sell as many eggs as they can.
@Ch1naVirus
@Ch1naVirus Ай бұрын
@@rathelmmc3194 globalism
@Man_of_TheWay
@Man_of_TheWay Ай бұрын
I learned the hard way. Never pay more in interest, taxes, and insurance than you currently pay for rent. Read that again.
@tomsawyer4857
@tomsawyer4857 2 ай бұрын
Worse than renting is buying and can't keep up the payment
@traceybiles2061
@traceybiles2061 22 күн бұрын
And if you pay house off the taxes insurance amd whatever breaks on your home cha..new roof new plumbing etc...wiring..it's a hot mess...
@Wander_Up
@Wander_Up 10 күн бұрын
Also, if any repairs come up ...good luck. I would rather rent and still have a life than be a home owner and poor.
@bleaaarghh
@bleaaarghh 3 күн бұрын
Renting is worse
@thatssonerdy4467
@thatssonerdy4467 2 ай бұрын
That's nice for people that have that option
@PROVOCATEURSK
@PROVOCATEURSK 15 күн бұрын
That´s why you have to bring socialism to USSA.
@richieewinns
@richieewinns 2 ай бұрын
Buying a home i suppose makes a bit more sense, but fucking hell, the system is designed to keep you slaving away. What a life.
@MisstressMourtisha
@MisstressMourtisha 14 күн бұрын
Debt slavery
@GeekHero_Bubba
@GeekHero_Bubba 2 ай бұрын
The answer is, do what you have the money for
@TTinAZ
@TTinAZ 2 ай бұрын
Buying isn't even an option anymore for MAJORITY of us.Why are we even having this conversation?
@oscarguzman3017
@oscarguzman3017 2 ай бұрын
So we can be sad about it
@FooFan-b3k
@FooFan-b3k Ай бұрын
Boo Hoo! 67% of people own a house. Do better than just complaining on social media.
@oscarguzman3017
@oscarguzman3017 Ай бұрын
@@FooFan-b3k does anyone like you?
@FooFan-b3k
@FooFan-b3k Ай бұрын
@@oscarguzman3017 Your mom sure does.
@oscarguzman3017
@oscarguzman3017 Ай бұрын
@@FooFan-b3k She doesn't have an eye for people, so that doesn't really help your case
@kylecurryyt
@kylecurryyt Ай бұрын
These facts are true. And how many working class people have the down payment available to buy a house? And what if your job transfers you? Then you have to try and sell your house. I had to sell a house once when the market was way down because of a job change. Another time I could’ve made a ton of money on that house. Renting is definitely more expensive than owning in the long run, but if you are changing jobs and moving every few years, trying to improve your career, you can’t always buy and sell homes easily. And show me a house for $400,000 anywhere where people actually work! Your job may be in a city where the lowest cost home is in the millions. If you live an hour away from your job in the country somewhere maybe you find an affordable home, but then how much do you spend on car maintenance and gas?
@ProGamusian
@ProGamusian 2 ай бұрын
I’m going to abandon society and tough it in the wilderness if things keep going the way they are. I’m one bad month away from living on the streets, losing my car, garnishments from my credit card debt, and there’s not a single person on this planet that wants to help get me out of the mess that I am in. I’m exhausted and worn out to the bone, I’m working basically 8 days a week, and surviving off redbulls and the food bank. But apparently I make “too much” to get food stamps 😢or have Medicaid, this last year I’ve wracked up $3000 on medical debt that I can’t pay because of an ER visit, and nobody had told me of the cost of anything beforehand 😢😢😢 all over something that would suddenly be gone the next morning
@dominiqueritchey6795
@dominiqueritchey6795 2 ай бұрын
I'm very sorry, dude. May nothing get worse, but only better. God bless you.
@Undomaranel
@Undomaranel 2 ай бұрын
If you're making payments on your car, turn that into your rent. Having transportation and doors that lock is better than being on the streets.
@dianereece4495
@dianereece4495 2 ай бұрын
praying for you Don’t give in .eat only foods that nerdish you and don’t invest your time in activities that steal your health.Stay strong,be safe.
@JV-io3nn
@JV-io3nn Ай бұрын
Dude, cut to the chase and live in your car already. I make "okay" money and live in my car after I purchased a small plot of undeveloped land last year and am working to make it liveable with full utilities. I'm saving about $1k/month by not paying rent! Closer to $800-900 after additional expenses and I am living pretty damn well with a hefty investment into solar, large capacity lifepo4 battery and portable power station, as well as a 12v fridge, but that stuff is a one and done and it costs me nothing to maintain. If you're unsure about making the complete switch, try it out while you still have your place so you don't end up effing yourself in the long run. Truck stops and abandoned parking lots are my typical go tos until my property is tire safe (tons of brush stumps to be removed). Live like you're truly free!
@surewhatever8843
@surewhatever8843 Ай бұрын
I’m GenX and purchased a house (3/2, 1100sf) in my early 20s for $50k. I made $37k/year, no college. The house was a mess and part of the HUD repo program. I had a genius real estate agent that tapped into every first time buyer program, leaving only $288 due at signing after my $500 earnest deposit. My mortgage was ~$300/ mo less than what I was paying to rent for a 1bdrm apartment, so I threw that into my mortgage payment to knock down interest costs. I sold the home for $80k about seven years later after investing ~$3k in DIY improvements. Rolled my gains into another house. It was unusual to get such a deal at the time (genius agent), but it is IMPOSSIBLE now and that needs to change. The only way to consistently build wealth (sustainability, really) in America is through home ownership and it’s not even on the table for most.
@NotSure-cz8xs
@NotSure-cz8xs Ай бұрын
The boomers pulled up the ladder along time ago. They gambled our future away so really theyre the last generation that has home buying power. You just got really lucky.
@SneedChuck-vm7gv
@SneedChuck-vm7gv Ай бұрын
Happy for your success, hope my generation figure something out
@surewhatever8843
@surewhatever8843 Ай бұрын
@@SneedChuck-vm7gv I find it ridiculous people can’t qualify for a $2500/mon mortgage despite the fact they show up with that rent payment every month, that is often higher than a potential mortgage payment. I’d like to see the return of “starter homes” and programs to drastically reduce the entry fees to a first mortgage. It absolutely can be done, but we’ll have to fight the out of control corporate greed.
@micker9830
@micker9830 28 күн бұрын
Only way to build wealth for most people and create generation wealth, which is huge for your children and their children.
@siennajantzen1158
@siennajantzen1158 12 күн бұрын
@@NotSure-cz8xsyeah, tell me about it. Then they wonder why we complain about the world that they left us. I’m literally thinking about leaving earth altogether. What a sad world. Can’t even afford babies with my beautiful husband.
@ekerson
@ekerson 2 ай бұрын
Lol 10% of 400k. Where am i finding that much money lying around?
@jeremiah4267
@jeremiah4267 Ай бұрын
I have that much, its easier when you have few expenses and a sibling or spouse to save with you and share living expenses
@bluesbrother2383
@bluesbrother2383 Ай бұрын
Don't you live at home for free into your 30s? Save some money instead of wasting it and feeling sorry for yourself
@ytadventurer9170
@ytadventurer9170 Ай бұрын
@@bluesbrother2383 Honestly, that's great advice... for anyone who doesn't have a toxic family. Unfortunately, that's not everyone.
@kj475
@kj475 Ай бұрын
If you can't save a down payment, you shouldn't be buying a home. It generally means you're living paycheck to paycheck, which is nothing new in this country.
@whatever2859
@whatever2859 Ай бұрын
it takes 10 all in to turn 100 bucks into 100gs. oppertunity is always out there
@TheBigTuna12
@TheBigTuna12 2 ай бұрын
They (boomers) hated him for he spoke the truth. 😅😅😅
@LuisPerez-5
@LuisPerez-5 2 ай бұрын
"Truth"
@pmscalisi
@pmscalisi Ай бұрын
lol such triggered children
@ter2364
@ter2364 Ай бұрын
​@@pmscalisi triggered at who who are the children triggered at
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
Why would a boomer hate him speaking the truth.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
The reality is that there is no "hate"; boomers don't care. My mom is a boomer, she's doing just fine. If I told my mom "hey, this guy on YT made a video that compared the cost of renting to the cost of buying a home for the next 30 years", she would not care a bit. She would probably say "that's nice... why are you telling me this?" But there is exactly zero percent chance that she would "hate" this guy. And this is the real problem: young people that are frustrated with their inability to move forward in life like to project their frustration onto older generations by claiming the older generations are "hateful" and angry. Nope. We're not. Most of us are quite content. My mom has enough money to live very comfortably for the rest of her life; I'm going to retire soon with enough money to do the same. My millennial son has a good job and is working on building his wealth for his family. But realistically... with my mom's wealth and my wealth passing down to him some decades from now, my son will end up quite wealthy regardless of what he does. And that's the real key: generational wealth... at some point, someone has to grind it out, save and invest, to build that wealth that will pass down to their children and grandchildren. If that didn't happen for you, then dedicate yourself to being the one to make it happen for your family. Complaining won't get it done. It takes hard work and dedication.
@WingsOfDomesticViolence
@WingsOfDomesticViolence 2 ай бұрын
People think Home ownership is all good until your house inflates to a 500K Price tag and you're STILL Stuck paying a MASSIVE Property tax bill
@deadmansgulf911
@deadmansgulf911 Ай бұрын
Need to move to areas with low property taxes. I’m in East TN and my property taxes is $1200 a year on a $450K house. Where i use to live in Chicago the same property taxes would be $12 to $14 K
@mjaynes288
@mjaynes288 Ай бұрын
California property taxes can only increase by 2% per year unless the home is sold. Many rich people pay less taxes on the giant mansion they have owned since the 1970s than a modest second home in another state.
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 Ай бұрын
America sucks, why the hell do you pay "property tax"???🙄
@WingsOfDomesticViolence
@WingsOfDomesticViolence Ай бұрын
@@pauldavies7251 I've been asking this since I was young makes very little sense,People say well don't you want RoAdS,ScHoOls & FiRE DePaRtMeNtS? Most of the worlds countries maintain this while not charging THOUSANDS in property tax
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 Ай бұрын
@@WingsOfDomesticViolence income tax covers government spending tho!! Makes no sense
@NerdyPanda-td1tz
@NerdyPanda-td1tz 2 ай бұрын
Not to mention, your allowed to have pets when you buy, do whatever the hell you want to your home. FUUUUUCK paying someone else’s mortgage.
@hyunpark7448
@hyunpark7448 2 ай бұрын
Please stop~ I need renters for my properties lmao
@Immacu1ate
@Immacu1ate Ай бұрын
Do you not go out to eat? You’re paying someone’s bills when you do that.
@ThisIsYou36
@ThisIsYou36 Ай бұрын
​@@hyunpark7448get a job
@galactick3816
@galactick3816 Ай бұрын
@@Immacu1ate The people there actually provide a value, landlords are leeches on society that provide nothing
@Immacu1ate
@Immacu1ate Ай бұрын
@@galactick3816 While there are bad apples everywhere, if I were to buy the house I live in now my mortgage would be higher by more than 4 figures. Pretty good service I'm getting.
@markusmao6430
@markusmao6430 2 ай бұрын
We should all go back to our parent's basements.
@bigboy3454
@bigboy3454 2 ай бұрын
Lol, I never left.🤣
@TheRollingTrip
@TheRollingTrip Ай бұрын
Several years ago, 3 Hispanic families bought a larger rundown house for next to nothing. They spent two years pooling their money together and fixing everything, all while working full time jobs. When the first house was finished, they found another house in similar condition and repeated the process. After 8-9 years, all 3 families had their own home, paid off in full. I’m sure it was rough the first few years for all of them, but are sitting back smiling now. No telling what their homes are worth now.
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
It's better to live with your parents for several years, saving the money up before buying their own place. Both my sons did it. They lived with me for several years after college graduation. When they got engaged they had the down payment for their first home.
@desireeloveros1055
@desireeloveros1055 Ай бұрын
My mom doesn't even have a basement
@donovanmarks1865
@donovanmarks1865 Ай бұрын
My mom's basement, technically garage, was too expensive. I had to move out. I couldn't afford such a nice space on my own.
@jd4064
@jd4064 Ай бұрын
If the renter invest the difference in renting for 30yrs would probably have a close to 1 mill as well and no headaches of dealing with maintenance.
@jonfilibuster8499
@jonfilibuster8499 Ай бұрын
You forgot to calculate how much the down payment would do in the stock market in the interim if you were renting instead of
@Nemo00013
@Nemo00013 Ай бұрын
I love how we present modern problems without modern solutions. The problem isn't that no one wants to buy. The problem is that no one can AFFORD to buy. When you say rent is $2000, I bet if you bought that same house, the mortgage would be closer to $3,000-$3,500. Most Americans cannot afford a 50-75% increase on Housing. Doesn't matter what the equity in 30 years is going to be, if the Bank can take your home and its equity if you can no longer make the payments. We haven't talked about the possibility of Taxes, Insurance increases and the possibility of HOA and CDD. So please make content that makes sense.
@GuardianPressureWashing
@GuardianPressureWashing Ай бұрын
Don’t forget upkeep fees on a home. I DIY everything and save a shit ton of money, but many people need to pay contractors.
@MrRedskindiehard
@MrRedskindiehard Ай бұрын
I disagree on the rent cost vs mortgage on a home. From my experience, if you can get a decent interest rate, a monthly mortgage is far cheaper than rent. The house I own now I could easily rent out for 50% more than my mortgage, and that was with closing at 6%
@Nemo00013
@Nemo00013 Ай бұрын
@@MrRedskindiehard In that case, you should buy, without question. However, in most markets like FL, that's not the case.
@chiplangowski3298
@chiplangowski3298 Ай бұрын
Short-term thinking. The only reason rent is cheaper on a like-for-like property is because the owner was smart enough to lock in the lower cost sometime in the past.
@unnamed154
@unnamed154 Ай бұрын
My wife and I bought our house in Sept 2019 for $365k when you only needed like 5% down, refinanced when the rates were a low 2.75%. the houses in our neighborhood have now sold for over $500k, with high rates. We got really lucky
@JustaRandomGuy890
@JustaRandomGuy890 Ай бұрын
Buying is problematic because even IF you can afford a house now, it might not be good enough for your future plans. Let’s say you can afford a two bedroom apartment, that’s good enough for a single person or a couple but not good enough for a family
@zhara2585
@zhara2585 2 ай бұрын
Well at least minimum wage is 7.50$ and that probably wont change for another 30 years
@randalmiller7952
@randalmiller7952 Ай бұрын
California bumped it up to $15.50.
@youcantseeme71
@youcantseeme71 Ай бұрын
Wrong minimum wage is 0. Nobody has to pay you
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
If you expect to work live on $7.50 an hourly wage for the rest of your life then you are totally lost. Plan to live with your parents for the rest of your life.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Ай бұрын
@@youcantseeme71 There's actually talk on the GOP side to eliminate the minimum wage federal law entirely.
@youcantseeme71
@youcantseeme71 Ай бұрын
​@@brnmcc01government shouldn't be involved in a lot of our lives
@charging7
@charging7 Ай бұрын
It's pretty simple, you want to rent things that depreciate and buy things that appreciate. You're welcome.
@TeamMadcrew
@TeamMadcrew 2 ай бұрын
but the monthly on that mortgage is over 3k a month... that 7% interest is way over 60% of the total loan. you can rent and invest that extra 1k for 30 years and make bank. when it's time to sell, remember that you would have paid for a new roof, hvac, appliances, water heater, lawncare which increases your total cost of ownership. we bought a 2005 home in 2022. so far we paid well over $100k in those repair/replacements that i mentioned. labor rates have increased as well as supplies. in this current economy, renting is the best option. btw, we bought a house in FL, tax and insurance is 2k a month.
@tylerk.7947
@tylerk.7947 2 ай бұрын
LOL what??? You paid 100k on repairs on your property in two years???? Goddamn man, what do you do, accept every bid? Learn some DIY skills jesus
@williamquigley852
@williamquigley852 Ай бұрын
Your experience is much more the norm. People who don't own houses generally under estimate the cost of maintaining it including property taxes, insurance, ongoing repairs. Any money that went into a house to purchase it could be invested at a 8% to 10% return compounded annually if put into a S&P500 index. Generally better to rent.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
" you can rent and invest that extra 1k for 30 years and make bank. " You're ignoring something very important: with rent increasing 3% per year, you won't have that extra 1k per month for very long. After 13 years, the rent would have increased to 3k per month, while the mortgage payment is still at 3k (assuming they hadn't refinanced to a lower rate.) By the 18th year, rent would be $3400 and the mortgage payment would still be $3000. So yes, renters are ahead in the beginning, but owners paying a mortgage catch up and are better off at the end. Also... yeah, if you had to make $100k in repairs in two years, that is truly exceptional. I replaced my roof last year for $23k. Other than that... no major repairs in 20 years. I do a lot of simple maintenance on my own, but I would have to do a lot of major remodeling to get to the $100k mark.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
@@williamquigley852 "Any money that went into a house to purchase it could be invested at a 8% to 10% return compounded annually if put into a S&P500 index. Generally better to rent." Interesting comparison. Over the past 20 years, my home value has tripled, which is an annual increase of about 5.6%. During that time, the S&P (which I also invest in) has returned an average of about 10.8% annually (including dividends.) But the key comparison is the cost of rent -- which is money that is gone -- to the cost of interest, property taxes, insurance, maintenance (also money gone... for a homebuyer). The cost of interest starts relatively low, because it's on the original mortgage balance, and drops every year. Property taxes and insurance are pretty wild variables... but where I live, both are pretty tame. Back 20 years ago, I paid about $3000 for those combined and now I pay about $4500 combined... a 50% increase in 20 years. I just did the math, and at least in my situation paying the cost of buying the house and taking the appreciation, beats the cost of renting for the past 20 years and investing the difference in the S&P during that time. Essentially, for the same monthly cost, the buying option leaves me with $510k home equity at the end of the 20 years, while the renting/S&P strategy gives me an investment account worth $380k. So if I cashed out of each option, I'd have more from the homebuying option. The important point to all of this is that people need to have financial literacy and the ability to crunch some numbers to figure out what's best for them.
@nogames8982
@nogames8982 Ай бұрын
I think the main benefit of buying is the equity. If you’re going to plan on staying in one area for a long time buying would be good. The problem is the prices of the houses are so ridiculous now. It’s not the interest-rate that kills you, it’s the actual price of the house.
@nighttimekitsune423
@nighttimekitsune423 Ай бұрын
I now understand why Futurama has death booths everywhere.
@ohrats731
@ohrats731 2 ай бұрын
I wish my area was still increasing rent by about 3% a year. It’s more like 5-9% here 😪 Has our minimum wage increased? Nope. Still $7.25/hour
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
You can hope for the government like California to raise the minimum wage to $20 for fast food workers. Results so far, businesses closed down, workers laid off, hours cut back, more automation. Don't expect to look at earning minimum wage to pay for all your bills.
@WalrusWinking
@WalrusWinking Ай бұрын
@@covercalls88 Minimum Wage was created so one person could LIVE off of it, dude.
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
@@WalrusWinking well looks like a whole lot of companies have figured out it not worth to pay, so now many don't have a job, dude.
@stoptellingmewhattowrite
@stoptellingmewhattowrite Ай бұрын
​@WalrusWinking Really? Genuinely qurious where you have heard/seen that explained in this way?
@RookCity94
@RookCity94 16 күн бұрын
​​@@covercalls88 Yeah, because the management of those restraunts are making upwards of 6-figures, and don't want to cut into their own profit to pay their workers better, so they just close the whole business instead. The reason many European countries can afford to pay their fast food workers upwards of $22 an hour, is because the managers don't make THAT much more, it's like $30-$35 an hour.
@clarezajac3276
@clarezajac3276 Ай бұрын
There's no way you're going to have 200,000 in maintenance unless your house just is completely falling apart already... I think you get your roof done every 20 years. And you just got to cut your own grass... And then every once in a while I can make your AC might go out.
@StevosMfDen
@StevosMfDen Ай бұрын
Yeah but a house has to be rebuilt as well. And most houses under 400k are already over 30 years old.
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
It really pays to be a good DIYer when you are a homeowner.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Ай бұрын
That's right, it would be very very rare these days for a heating and air conditioning system to last 30 years. Yes there's systems running today built 30 years ago, but they don't make em like they used to. Look up the light bulb conspiracy and 'planned obsolescence'.
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
@@StevosMfDen Really depends upon how the house is kept, how often a owner remodels, or how is the landscaping
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
My house is 40 yrs old. I replaced the hvac 15 years ago for $6000 at that time, and it's still running fine. I replaced my roof last year for $23k... it was the original tile roof, 40 years old. I expect the new roof to last at least 30 years. I'll be doing some painting and minor repairs this summer. But yeah... $200k for repairs and maintenance is a lot. I won't get anywhere close to that unless I start tearing out walls and replacing entire rooms. I guess it also depends on the size of the house. Many these days are 2000 to 3000 sq ft (or even more); mine is just 1500.
@TRXST.ISSUES
@TRXST.ISSUES 2 ай бұрын
Rent could be $10k/mo the rate we are going
@papasmurf9146
@papasmurf9146 2 ай бұрын
Not to burst your bubble, but you might be optimistic. In digging around for rent inflation it was hard to pinpoint what number to use. I settled on CNN's number since they separated out standard inflation from rental inflation. They had December 2023's annual inflation rate at 6.2%. Using that number, 2054's rental cost will be closer to $12.1K a month. Obviously different numbers in will give different numbers out. Inflation is a killer. Especially if you're a renter. It's not great for home owners either since property taxes may force them out of their homes -- but it really hurts renters.
@LuisPerez-5
@LuisPerez-5 2 ай бұрын
​@@papasmurf9146highly doubt it because nobody will be able to afford it. Makes zero sense.
@papasmurf9146
@papasmurf9146 2 ай бұрын
@@LuisPerez-5 depends on how well wages keep up. But the starting assumption was $2K a month for rent. Doing a quick look for 2 bedroom apartments near me, rent is between $1,050 and $2,500 with a lot of options at $1,500. It does seem like the goal is to break the system.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
@@papasmurf9146 "It's not great for home owners either since property taxes may force them out of their homes" Not in my state. About 50 years ago we passed a law to protect against this exact problem. Our property taxes are capped, by law, to increase no more than 2% per year. My home has increased in market value by 200% in the past 20 years, but my prop taxes have increased just 46% in the same period.
@papasmurf9146
@papasmurf9146 Ай бұрын
@@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk California. Prop 13. Best thing California ever did.
@testuser8977
@testuser8977 2 ай бұрын
I'm confused. The buyer has an equity of $1.35M? Isn't that what they end up paying over the 30 years of ownership (interest, insurance, maintenance cost, etc), not necessarily the value of the home?
@user-ls6wg1yo5t
@user-ls6wg1yo5t 2 ай бұрын
He did not include the raising cost of insurance, maintenance cost, and a lot of etc therefore you will be paying more and don't forget the mortgage leaders can not find your payment you mailed in trying to take your house for whatever reason.
@jkgwood
@jkgwood 2 ай бұрын
Long term houses here in California have doubled about every 12 years for at least the last 60 years and probably longer. I don't know if that will go on forever, and short term prices have hit many peaks and valleys. His overall point is correct. Paying rent is a form of indentured servantry making someone else rich. Often that is a corporation like Blackrock, American Homes, or other Big REIT's, or local LLC's. After 30 years of paying rent all you have is a pile of rent receipts and your landlord has a house that's paid for.
@joniheisenberg
@joniheisenberg 2 ай бұрын
@@jkgwoodand buying a home is not keeping somebody else rich? Get real. Unless you can pay cash, you are making the banks richer.
@jkgwood
@jkgwood 2 ай бұрын
@@joniheisenberg You need to take a class in basic economics. When you buy a home instead of paying rent you build equity and that is yours, not the banks and not your landlords. You can deduct the interest, that money is yours, not the banks or your landlords. That tax deduction alone is worth thousands of dollars a year on your tax return. That is money you can put into a ROTH or IRA or to your kids college fund, or spend on anything you want. You can retire with a house that is paid for that belongs to you and not the bank or a landlord, and you can leave it to your loved ones instead of your landlord leaving it to his loved ones. For several generations Americans that have paid mortgage loans have retired comfortably because they bought a home and paid the mortgage. Yes the bank makes money on the mortgage, but who cares, you will make as much or more than the bank makes and if you spend the same money paying rent you will make nothing and build nothing for your future and you will be old and poor paying top dollar for rent, or you may possibly end up homeless when you are too old to work instead of having a house that is paid for. Oh, BTW, if you just put the money you get from your mortgage deduction on your tax return into a ROTH every year for 30 years and it grows at the average stock market growth of 8%/year you will have well over a million dollars in the ROTH, and that is tax free, and your house is still paid for. If you rent for 30 years you will have a pile of worthless rent receipts.
@joniheisenberg
@joniheisenberg 2 ай бұрын
@@jkgwood A house that is “paid for” that needs a new roof, upgraded appliances, new floors & other maintenance. Don’t lecture me. Been there done that. Plus the games played with property taxes.Sold my home after 30 years & now I rent. Learned the game that ALWAYS benefits the banks. Don’t kid yourself regarding the equity that you build. Now I can travel & move anywhere I want. Renting is freedom.
@ReckLessMedia20
@ReckLessMedia20 2 ай бұрын
You can't do neither because all that shits way too expensive.
@maurikunnas6266
@maurikunnas6266 2 ай бұрын
I'm honestly thinking about buying a trailer ...
@TheDustyShed
@TheDustyShed 2 ай бұрын
That is a terrible long term plan. They require more maintenance and don’t appreciate as well as houses.
@slyper_the_sly_dragon
@slyper_the_sly_dragon 2 ай бұрын
@@TheDustyShed like a car, they only depreciate in value.
@yamete1729
@yamete1729 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheDustyShedI don't think it's his long term plan
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
​@@TheDustyShed I agree not a good long term plan, it may be an alternative in the beginning.
@jamestaylor9887
@jamestaylor9887 Ай бұрын
A big part of why its so expensive to get a house is due to corporations buying them up. In many states corporations own 20-30% if the single family homes which reduces market availability increasing prices. It also allows corporations to generate more passive income and push out the lower income families that would have been able to afford the house, but can't afford the rent.
@KatieBytes
@KatieBytes Ай бұрын
Where I live the shitty apartments go for 500k... even an hour out of the city the single family homes rarely go under 600k
@kennyadvocat
@kennyadvocat 2 ай бұрын
Buying you gotta take L's for the first 7 years. Then as rents go up and your mortgage stays the same and you start earning equity it starts to make sense to own. Sadly most people move too often and end up paying too many realtor/moving fees. The firs few years of a mortgage its all interest in the payments.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Ай бұрын
People have to move, to go where the jobs/opportunities are sometimes.
@chevypremier5966
@chevypremier5966 2 ай бұрын
I'm disabled on a fixed.How would you expect us to buy a home
@georgefalcon14
@georgefalcon14 2 ай бұрын
Homes for Humanity, has home buying plans.
@sweetbabyboo5
@sweetbabyboo5 2 ай бұрын
@@georgefalcon14I’m sure there’s a long wait list.
@mjaynes288
@mjaynes288 Ай бұрын
@@georgefalcon14 Habitat for Humanity has minimum income requirements so the 30 year interest free mortgage is affordable. I have not seen any where someone with Social Security Disability as their only income would qualify. They also require "sweat equity" (hundreds of volunteer hours) which is difficult for someone who is disabled.
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
If you are on disability with fixed income I don't expect you to be able to buy a home and why should you. Home ownership is earned not a right.
@ThisIsYou36
@ThisIsYou36 Ай бұрын
​@@covercalls88it should be, having people on the streets doesn't help anything.
@beware3586
@beware3586 Ай бұрын
Home maintenance is also pretty damn expensive though. Roofing, siding and windows if they aren't in good condition can be a pretty hefty upfront cost and do leak. Appliances and utilities, pests and general upkeep add up over time. Now I definitely think buying property is the way to go 1000% But we have to be realistic about what that investment requires.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
This is a fair analysis. He shows that in the long term, the advantage is clearly to buying the home. And that's if the mortgage rate stays at 7%. The added advantage is that the interest rate will never go up, but it can go down. I bought my home 22 years ago with a mortgage at 7% (which is just what a typical rate was back then.) Within the first ten years I was able to refinance to a 4% rate, and in the past ten years I was able to refi to 3% and then 2%. That cuts out a huge amount of interest. Other advantage: except for large increases in insurance or prop taxes, the mortgage payment won't increase. A decent strategy is to add $100 to the starting mortgage payment, which will be applied to principal. If the payment increases in the next couple years for taxes and insurance, you can keep the payment the same and let that extra $100 absorb the increase. Years later, your payment is still the same but your income will have risen and you'll feel like you're in the clear. The first few years of homeownership can be a real squeeze financially, but once you're past those few years it gets easier.
@StoneXue
@StoneXue 2 ай бұрын
You are still paying renters insurance if you rent more and more places require that now. Expect it to simply be a standard requirement in the next 2-5 years. Chances are you are not staying in 1 rental that whole time so now ever 2-5 years you got a few grand in new deposits, moving fees etc. Yes that one home prolly will not be the one you stay in for 30 years if you are in your mid 20s right now. HOWEVER absent a housing crash if you upgrade twice in that 30 years to a new place you are in a good chance to be coming ahead and able to use that for down payment and lower mortgage. Lets also not pretend mortgage rates will never go down. Reality is in the next couple years you will likely be able to refinance that down to 5.5 or better saving you a boatload. Whereas we know rent will simply continue to go up. If you CAN buy and I know most cant right now but if you CAN buy, do it. Just make sure you get a good home inspection and dont buy trendy crap like tiny homes or other weird trends that wont hold their value.
@TheDustyShed
@TheDustyShed 2 ай бұрын
There is no reason to expect interest rates to go down. We are still at historical lows in interest rates. If you are young you may believe the rates of the past two decades are normal. They are not. They have been artificially low which is a factor in why housing prices are so high now.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Ай бұрын
@@TheDustyShed Yup in 1960 interest rates were in the 6% range.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
@Guillotines_For_Globalists 2 ай бұрын
Minimum wage 2054 $15 lol.
@sarahb8073
@sarahb8073 Ай бұрын
Thank you. No one ever talks about the lost equity when they run these calculators. My SAHM grandma whose husband was a factory worker would not be able to afford to live if her husband had not bought their home. And there is 0% chance she would be able to pay today's rents. The housing market will take turns and it would be better to buy in downturns, but buying is overall better if you can afford it
@palianshow
@palianshow Ай бұрын
That's a great calculation - thank you. Makes total sense, now putting it into action: - Can't afford to buy atm - In 30 years I might be dead anyhow. - Rather house share or find a co-living space, travel the world on the low budget and pray for the best🎉
@HannibalGraham
@HannibalGraham Ай бұрын
As I know you know, this isn't a good argument unfortunately. You need to make a shit ton of money for the banks to let you get a house now and most people don't make enough. It used to be as long as you're working, you can try to get a home.
@22lostservice
@22lostservice 2 ай бұрын
Excpet that like in 2008 a bubbpe could burst at any time now and buyers will be underwater.
@warpfrenzy
@warpfrenzy Ай бұрын
Go look at the price of the same size house in the same area in 2006 vs 2009 vs today. Even if you bought at the peak of 2007 prices you arent underwater today. I know this because we sold our family home and it changed hands a few times after us. Some people got screwed but its more now than 2006-7
@jordanmichael4228
@jordanmichael4228 Ай бұрын
People have fixed interest rates now so payments don’t go up even if there is a bubble. Variable rates is what caused the crash
@ButteryWhiskers
@ButteryWhiskers Ай бұрын
Moral of the story, get into debt now before it’s even higher later
@white_isnt_a_race2338
@white_isnt_a_race2338 Ай бұрын
I mean, if I could afford it, I’d buy, but I’m never statistically going to be able to afford it
@sweetbabyboo5
@sweetbabyboo5 2 ай бұрын
Those numbers aren’t numbering, LOL. Many rates were over 7% and the bank has to agree to loan you money. That’s the part everyone forgets.
@rathelmmc3194
@rathelmmc3194 Ай бұрын
Yep, nobody ever thinks about the bank. Banks are already under capital pressure. If CMBS continues to deteriorate we could easily be in another liquidity crisis.
@sweetbabyboo5
@sweetbabyboo5 Ай бұрын
@@rathelmmc3194 ‼️
@HunterAyres
@HunterAyres 2 ай бұрын
So basically, you have to be Jeff Bezos to buy my grandma’s house?
@RelyeaGaming
@RelyeaGaming 2 ай бұрын
My rent goes up 10% every year. It’s rough
@VaBarbie187
@VaBarbie187 2 ай бұрын
You’ll basically have to be married or be in a committed relationship to be able to afford a home nowadays. I’ll forever be single and I only have 1 kid so I’ll probably never own a home. It is what it is. Renting isn’t so bad for me because at least I don’t have to pay to fix stuff. I’m proud of anyone who can afford a home in this day and age (especially if you’re single).
@kippy657
@kippy657 2 ай бұрын
This is all assuming a 2.4% per year rental increase. Some area increase by 3%, others as a 10-14%. By the end of this experiment it can range from 1.1M at 2.4% to upwards of 9.7M at 14% for total rent paid. There will eventually need to be a rent cap, but they will absolutely try to drive you to the brink first. My LL was going to maintain a 10% per month increase until i said fuck it and bought a house instead.
@stubstunner
@stubstunner 2 ай бұрын
I could not buy a home for 500k in my area.
@FooFan-b3k
@FooFan-b3k Ай бұрын
Move then
@simonfreeman8233
@simonfreeman8233 Ай бұрын
he's finally worked out why house prices are high the home owner has to sell their 400k house for 1.35mill just to break even
@drqtee
@drqtee Ай бұрын
Exactly that being said, I think his calculation is wrong. After the value of the home increases what 200 250,000 maybe 300,000 more he’ll get half the money back if he sells at that price. Which she would definitely do in this market. However, he would not get $1 million back… and $200,000 in maintenance ? I don’t know what that means that’s excessive unless you’re doing in addition to the home or doing major renovations.
@simonfreeman8233
@simonfreeman8233 Ай бұрын
@@drqtee 200k over 30 years is not unreasonable in fact I think tht number is a little low the problem with his ending figures is that he makes the assumption that the home value will increase by over 300% tax an insurance will stay the same and rental cost increase by 5 - 700% the one main advantage of ownership is that you have something to sell at the end of it
@GlobalAdventurer
@GlobalAdventurer Ай бұрын
The difference is "most" people don't stay in the same house for 30 years. So, these figures don't apply. The way things are going, many neighborhoods change drastically in just 10 years. So, it's something to consider.
@JoshuaFinancialPL
@JoshuaFinancialPL Ай бұрын
expenses do not equal equity, friend
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
You are correct. Expenses are usually the costs associated with protecting your equity, i.e. gotta pay for maintenance so the home keeps its value. But it's still worth the cost.
@kvapower3925
@kvapower3925 2 ай бұрын
Classic explanation of laboratory math. Can u hold a job for 30 years to make that payment!
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
That's a fine point, but the key to the "hold a job" issue is to make sure you have enough savings in a small "emergency fund" to pay the bills for a few months. This way if you lose your job, you have a few months to find a new one and get back on track. Of course this doesn't work if you lose your job long term and can't find another one... but that's worst case scenario, and using that as a plan means you would just never get anywhere.
@Bwaatiss
@Bwaatiss 6 күн бұрын
This is why so many people are van-lifing or doing mini-houses nowadays. Unfortunately, that's not much of an option for someone who isn't single/a couple without kids.
@inquisitvem6723
@inquisitvem6723 Ай бұрын
On a slightly different note, sell your house when you retire, it’s not worth owning a home and have to deal with maintenance. Better to rent
@Matt-kl2dw
@Matt-kl2dw 2 ай бұрын
What if the renter invested the $80k (20% down payment) into the markets with an average return rate of 10%? That would be $1,400,000 with just the $80k alone If they invest another $2,600 a month which is the monthly breakdown of the combined insurance, property tax and interest over 30 years, they would have $2.6 million… Always better to rent from a financial investment standpoint, always better to buy a house to give peace of mind and safety to your family.
@Caffeinegoesinface
@Caffeinegoesinface 2 ай бұрын
Yup this model is missing out on the opportunity cost for investment
@fkrkf
@fkrkf Ай бұрын
Might as well put it in the lottery as the stock market. Same odds of winning.
@JR-sx3gl
@JR-sx3gl 2 ай бұрын
Because we are all renting out of a choice, not because of necessity.
@sgtrickards5683
@sgtrickards5683 Ай бұрын
When my dad passed in 2017, I inherited the house and land. Still has a mortgage. $720 a month. I thought about refinancing but it didn't make sense.
@KeepersoftheTorah
@KeepersoftheTorah Ай бұрын
From 2018 to 2023, we rented for 1050 a month, we noticed prices to buy a home we're increasing everyday but really wanted to buy one and our landlord wanted the home back so he could either sell it or rehab it and rent it for more 1500 to 1700. We ended up buying it from him and pay 1600 in mortgage. Landlord's follow some sort of algorithm because wherever we have rented it always matched with current mortgage rates as well. Plus our rate is 6%, better than others in today's market, and I can't wait until rates go down, if they do at all that is.
@magoo9279
@magoo9279 2 ай бұрын
Caveat most people can't get a mortgage for a 400K home with their current income.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Ай бұрын
That's like minimum $85K with no other debt payments. If you have car payments, credit card bills, student loans, no bank will give you a mortgage on a $415K house with only 85K salary.
@magoo9279
@magoo9279 Ай бұрын
@brnmcc01 But ya have to be able to pay the mortgage and all the other costs that come with a house. And back in the 80s, you could buy a house, make 30k, and still afford the additional cost. In Florida, people can't even afford the homeowners insurance. Not to mention HOA fees if you buy into 1 of those communities.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Ай бұрын
@@magoo9279 Yup, and in Florida homeowners insurance is a scam. Search for that on KZfaq, there's a well respected engineer that goes into all the details.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Ай бұрын
@@magoo9279 Or like how about those poor people that bought into Champlain Towers. Not only were they paying out the nose for extremely high HOA fees, they got hit with 6 figure "assessments" supposedly to start repairing the pool deck, then it collapsed one day and they died... RIP Florida condo's HOA's are a ripoff. They suck up money, and then let the building fall apart.
@AnnCatherineFrancis
@AnnCatherineFrancis 2 ай бұрын
This gentleman, Tells you how bad the economy is and how boomers tell the rest of us that that we are lazy and should be good… Then, proceeds to tell you that if you rent, you are screwed! Really?!
@marcusjunior4364
@marcusjunior4364 2 ай бұрын
It's called reality. Truth in what both sides say.
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Ай бұрын
As a Boomer, I taught my sons when they were in grade school to plan for the future. I knew things were not going to get easier. A little extra effort and planning went a long way. My sons will have an advantage in having a longer life and better health care than the typical Boomer.
@sarahb8073
@sarahb8073 Ай бұрын
Yes thank you. Most Boomers know little about long term planning and didn't teach their kids. Boomers really benefited from affordability in their youth and inflation of housing. But that same inflation is going to hurt a lot of them as Boomers only have an average of 150k in retirement. Millennials have less of an advantage but my goal is to be set for retirement, help my children and teach them about saving, and be able to aid any of the 5 sets of parents (divorce sigh) that might need it. It's very simple equation to get ahead. Simple but hard to execute
@gigaus0
@gigaus0 9 күн бұрын
Actually, both are in the same situation. Unless you intend to sell that home you own, that equity is subjective; it's entirely possible for companies to reject using a property's equity for financial purposes, like securing a loan. And they've already started doing so, if they feel they can't somehow get ahold of that property permanently.
@TheNewHandleThingIsDumb
@TheNewHandleThingIsDumb 2 ай бұрын
funny to assume gen z people can even get a mortgage, even if rent is worse than home ownership the system prohibits us from doing it
@BillySBC
@BillySBC Ай бұрын
BUT... the renter took the same amount of money that the homeowner put down at Closing and invested it for 30 years... The renter now has all the interest from the money compounded over 30 years and brings in more in interest than his/her rent is. Winner: RENTER.
@MrRedskindiehard
@MrRedskindiehard Ай бұрын
Renters never win.
@BillySBC
@BillySBC Ай бұрын
@@MrRedskindiehard Not so, not so at all. I've owned two homes, it's not the paradise you would think it is.
@MrRedskindiehard
@MrRedskindiehard Ай бұрын
@BillySBC I own my home. And it's had its issues as all homes do but it's mine and most of the work put in will add value. I've also rented and it's not awful it's just a complete waste of money. The markets I've lived in mortgages are almost always cheaper than rent
@BillySBC
@BillySBC Ай бұрын
@@MrRedskindiehard Let me explain how this works... First of all, you don't own that home. That's right, you don't own that home. That home has a PERMANENT LEIN against it in the form of PROPERTY TAXES. Should you decide someday to not pay the Property Taxes the Government says you're going to pay THEN you will find out who really owns it, and it ain't YOU.
@jasonmelendez5216
@jasonmelendez5216 2 ай бұрын
You need to be able to put down more than 10%.
@RKmndo
@RKmndo 2 ай бұрын
Why do you need to be able to put down 10% or more?
@jasonmelendez5216
@jasonmelendez5216 2 ай бұрын
@RKmndo alot of people are competing for the same 'type' of house. In my experiences, every time there was a home, my wife and I were considering someone was able to outbid us by double or triple with immediate cash offer. It's hard to compete against someone who has the capability to put more down upfront for a home.
@kurg0n450
@kurg0n450 2 ай бұрын
What if you don't have anything to put down and refuse to get a loan because you believe that credit is just another way the government keeps tabs on you.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
@Guillotines_For_Globalists 2 ай бұрын
No soup for you!
@user-ri5ek5wj1l
@user-ri5ek5wj1l Ай бұрын
Renters can move when crime comes in and Jobs leave. If you mortgage you still have cost and your value plummets...
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnmmmm
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnmmmm Ай бұрын
Whichever is cheaper and can be afforded. Choose that. Easy.
@bartm_
@bartm_ 2 ай бұрын
While you rent for 10-20 years trying to save that 10% down, your house will increase in price by 30-40% and then you pay the endless repair and upgrade costs… until you die.
@eugeneabreut960
@eugeneabreut960 29 күн бұрын
OR until you stop paying your house tax, lol you never really own your house, don’t pay your taxes for a couple years you will see who’s house it really is
@thedoctorsjenny5143
@thedoctorsjenny5143 Ай бұрын
There was a lot of research that shows most of gen z and the younger generations will never be able to afford to have a home at all … so all things considered most younger generations may have to rent
@RichieRage
@RichieRage Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention cash flow. Most people would be house poor, wasting their youth away on paying for a roof over their heads, while the renter would have extra money to put away in an employer-matched 401(k).
@dropshotking1212
@dropshotking1212 2 ай бұрын
Aren’t you the same guy who did a video showing that people can’t even get qualified for a home loan!???
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 2 ай бұрын
So cheat the system by any means necessary. Get a cosigner, get mom or dad or an uncle or aunt under contract to join you on the mortgage for purposes of qualifications and an emergency backup in the eyes of the banks. Get owner financing, get another job, anything and everything possible. But be careful, don't overpay. That includes not buying a home that's priced low but still overpriced relative to needed repairs.
@howtomoderate
@howtomoderate Ай бұрын
Banks don't care about you committing fraud unless you stop making the payments or the 3 letter agencies get involved.
@slyper_the_sly_dragon
@slyper_the_sly_dragon 2 ай бұрын
Rent is not 2k. In my area average is 450 a month bro always gets his numbers wrong.
@seansaidit
@seansaidit 2 ай бұрын
And Fort Lauderdale, where I’m from you can expect to pay a minimum of 1500 anywhere around the downtown area. He’s giving numbers from low to high income areas across the country. Real estate is always relative. These are just numbers that go off percentages to paint a picture.
@slyper_the_sly_dragon
@slyper_the_sly_dragon 2 ай бұрын
@@seansaidit he's pulling the nu.bers out of his butt
@hopeseekr
@hopeseekr 2 ай бұрын
where the hell do you live where an apartnent is $450? is it 80 years old in a slum, infested with lice??
@sirjohnahayfalcon
@sirjohnahayfalcon 2 ай бұрын
1000to1200 avg for 1bd. 450 is the corner crackhouse on loser street
@reyr.7439
@reyr.7439 2 ай бұрын
Where are you paying $450 a month? In my area the average is $1700 and $1300 for the minimum rent!
@americatheuneducated3715
@americatheuneducated3715 28 күн бұрын
You should be staying at home and sharing the bills and helping out your parents who raised you so that they and you can all still live without struggling.
@Something5870
@Something5870 Ай бұрын
This video miss a few points : - Renting let you have more money NOW, and enjoy your active years more. When you buy, your monthly payment with everything extra you need to pay for make for a way tighter budget, which will only be alleviated when you finally paid your house off/sold it to close your mortgage. - Real value of homes are going in the negative nowadays as their price are not increase as much as the yearly inflation rate. Renter pretty much always pay an adjusted inflation rent, but buyers have a depreciating asset right now, as value got overblown recently. - Renting also allow you to put some money in an index fund for example, meaning you won't be left with nothing at the end of that 30 years period. In the end, Renting is a bet that your best years are right now, while buying is a bet that your best years are when you pay off your home. And with the info we have today, I don't think anybody thinks the situation will get better in 30 years, or that they'll somehow be more active in 30 years than now.
@NekoDalian
@NekoDalian Ай бұрын
Is this really even a question? Duh, you should buy if you have the money. But most people don't have the money.
@gohardorgohome2938
@gohardorgohome2938 2 ай бұрын
Renter puts 40k in s&p for 30 years comes out the same.
@aladdin888
@aladdin888 Ай бұрын
Got divorced in 2008. After paying the ex everything I had to pay her, I had $175k left to my name. Rented 1/2 of a duplex for $775. a month for 13 years. (2008-2021 without an increase in rent) I'm self-employed, dumped all of my extra $$ in the market. Still renting at the same place today & my rent is now $1k a month. My ROTH just hit $1M this week & the rest of my stock portfolio also just hit $3M this week. I don't think any house I would of bought in 2008 for $175K would be worth $4M today. Looking to pay cash for a house in the next year or so or whenever I feel like it!
@davidkingsley3244
@davidkingsley3244 Ай бұрын
My rent is double what it was when I started. it went from 1400 to over 3000 in just twelve years
@bry0391
@bry0391 17 күн бұрын
As a parent with young kids I can’t help but wonder how the hell they will be able to afford a coffee let alone a house by time they are adults. It’s madness
@futuremartillo
@futuremartillo 2 ай бұрын
isn't this the same guy that keeps telling you it's impossible to buy anymore?
@ter2364
@ter2364 Ай бұрын
this is a hypothetical with the stats of today to illustrate the absolute agony of the current economy that the US government scoffs at Gain media literacy skills? possibly for your own future
@johnpaton4246
@johnpaton4246 2 ай бұрын
if buying is a real option, always buy, you only rent when it is short term, like youre gonna move in a year
@joniheisenberg
@joniheisenberg 2 ай бұрын
Wrong. Some people don’t want to own. They want the flexibility of renting.
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk
@IdRatherBeDiving-vr5gk Ай бұрын
@@joniheisenberg I think the OP is talking strictly from a financial sense, i.e. financially it is nearly always better to buy if you're going to stay in one place for a long time. This simply means that if you look at the typical cost to rent vs buy over five years (for example), you'll almost always come out ahead -- financially -- from buying. Flexibility is important to some people, but that's a separate issue. And flexibility comes with an associated cost, i.e. people (as you point out) are willing to pay more to keep their flexibility.
@jolteon345
@jolteon345 Ай бұрын
What’s great is that if you don’t have the down payment, you can arbitrarily be told that you can’t afford a house where the mortgage payment would be 50%-75% of the cost to rent. So it’s impossible to build up a down payment but you could easily pay it back within 5 years.
@wavesbnice1
@wavesbnice1 Ай бұрын
Yea he forgot the government punishes you for success. Property tax will commensurate with your home appreciation.
@oakmen4604
@oakmen4604 2 ай бұрын
Buying is always a better option IF you have all the circumstances to accommodate it. House poor is also something people should avoid as current interest rates are just too high.
@ajays9936
@ajays9936 Ай бұрын
I can’t wait to hear the shrill screams when rent hits $7000. Loool we gonna have people selling their booties out here for an amazon prime jail cell
@daedaluxe
@daedaluxe 24 күн бұрын
Thinking rent will go up 3% a year would be nice. Rent went up 30% this year for most in the UK, lol. Not worth renting. Not worth buying at 5%+ Better enjoy living in a car.
@TheDougSpot
@TheDougSpot Ай бұрын
There’s a bunch of information missing here. The monthly on rent would be about $1,000 cheaper. If you invest that $1,000 at a conservative 8% return, you’d have $1.5 million in cash after 30 years
@joshuagibson3462
@joshuagibson3462 2 ай бұрын
That is not how equity works. Smh
@bobowon5450
@bobowon5450 Ай бұрын
Not to mention that 2k rent is likely a 1 bedroom small apartment but the 400k house is probably twice the size and has a yard
@fishingbob8374
@fishingbob8374 Ай бұрын
I rent a 2 bed 2 bath for $900 a month in a great neighborhood. 8 unit building privately owned, and we've all been here over 5 years. 😅 It's the state you live in or the location. Simple sacrifices will allow you a better situation.
@bobowon5450
@bobowon5450 Ай бұрын
@@fishingbob8374 unfortunately in canada here the apartment you make sacrifices to get is still about 2k a month.
@nai1po1ish
@nai1po1ish Ай бұрын
You’re still paying someone else’s mortgage.
@carrie893
@carrie893 17 күн бұрын
Id buy a fair priced vacant land in a rural area and put a small shed on it. Get electric run to the property but only have one outlet or 2. Get a Portapotty, use planet fitness to shower, and save up. You can always get your money back on the land and sell the shed even. Its minimal loss. You could also buy a old crappy camper trailer.
@Klake-bk2dp
@Klake-bk2dp 3 күн бұрын
Utility company: that will be $100k 🎉
@SS3-Rick-Man-X
@SS3-Rick-Man-X 5 күн бұрын
Exactly why I saved up while I was in the military and just paid it off when I signed the paperwork.
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