Should We Call Out False Teachers or Ignore Them?

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Desiring God

Desiring God

4 жыл бұрын

Ask Pastor John
Episode: 1377
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@njbpaul
@njbpaul 4 жыл бұрын
we should call them out to warn others
@lovelife9332
@lovelife9332 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought. I actually did that and it backfired on me. I was hoping people would see the proof I had that the pastor knew he was preaching false doctrine because he admitted it to me. I thought it was a righteous anger to stand up for truth in hopes of souls being saved but I just got persecuted and attacked. Now I feel like I have to repent while this darkness continues and the emotional harm done to me is so bad.
@andrewtang5761
@andrewtang5761 Жыл бұрын
​@@lovelife9332 I was persecuted out of a once Biblical church but is now a dying cult-like corrupt business, by the false teachers there, who are full-time paid staff members, as well as their supporters. These false teachers' foolishness was very clear for all to see for years, where one of them openly boasted, "I have so much Bible swimming in my head I cannot wait to minister to you" during a church quarterly meeting. The false teachers are scared of truth reaching the people so one of them--who is known for childishness and ungodly conflicts about people, and perhaps even never belonging to God to begin with--twice told church members not to contact me in an email and in person, demonstrating himself to be a wild and out of control, foolish child. This one false teacher in particular is an extremely immature associate pastor who thinks he is entitled to run a church because of his background, growing up in the church and have family connections in the church. It is scary what kinds of people are in positions of authority, whether in the secular world or the church. There are mentally unfit people with fragile egos in positions of authority, whether we are talking about the extremely unprofessional President of the US from 2016-2020, the Black Lives Matter Politics Influenced School Board President, or Associate Pastor at the now extremely corrupt and upside-down church on Pepper Street and 24th avenue. Hundreds of people have been lied to by the false teachers, but a faithful minority contacted me because they were interested in the truth, and because they have a desire to walk on the difficult path that leads to salvation (Matthew 7:13-14). I pray every day for about less than ten wonderful brothers in arms and sisters in arms. They need to expose evil and make themselves vulnerable. I did my work for the people. Now I am in a true local church, where I need to continue the same fight of spiritual warfare. I salute you other soldiers.
@loveroftruth8148
@loveroftruth8148 Жыл бұрын
Wait. But isn't John Piper saying that it is ok to expose false teachers??
@salescustomer-service2050
@salescustomer-service2050 Жыл бұрын
I called out a false teacher over on the channel grand supreme news channel. The host stated that a person who dies sin no longer has a hold on them. I replied if that person hasn't given their life to Christ; they have died in sin. My comment was deleted.
@aheartonfire7191
@aheartonfire7191 8 ай бұрын
@@lovelife9332 You did what was right, why should you repent? Lol
@Ghostkar
@Ghostkar 4 жыл бұрын
"The best protection against the darkness of error, is the light of truth."
@mjazzguitar
@mjazzguitar 4 жыл бұрын
2 Corinthians 11:14 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
@the-trustees
@the-trustees 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, shine the light of truth on the fact that you are all choosing to delude yourselves because your parents brainwashed you before you had the tools to think critically. Stop the make-believe and stop retarding humanity's progress. And stop wanting the world to end.
@mjazzguitar
@mjazzguitar 4 жыл бұрын
@@the-trustees You believe that one day a fish crawled out of the water and became the ancestor of all the land animals?
@the-trustees
@the-trustees 4 жыл бұрын
@@mjazzguitar No. I don't believe that. And if you took 15 minutes to google evolution, or transition of species from water to land, you would have realized what a ridiculous question that is. I know you are afraid of learning something that you think will destroy your religious programming so I get that. BUT, if you aren't go to research the topic, whatever it is, don't ask questions that retarded apologists have been asking, and have been explained to as wrong, for two centuries.
@mjazzguitar
@mjazzguitar 4 жыл бұрын
@@the-trustees "Our ancestors' transition out of the water and onto the land was a pivotal moment in evolution." www.independent.co.uk/news/science/walking-fish-human-evolution-how-leave-ocean-explanation-scientists-understanding-a8202061.html
@seekingtruthnwisdom5552
@seekingtruthnwisdom5552 4 жыл бұрын
Eph 5:11 LOGOS And have no partnership with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
@yahsaves9643
@yahsaves9643 4 жыл бұрын
Oh shoot so you can't expose them ??
@seekingtruthnwisdom5552
@seekingtruthnwisdom5552 4 жыл бұрын
@@yahsaves9643 read it again!
@ronbennettoutdoorswildlife1514
@ronbennettoutdoorswildlife1514 3 жыл бұрын
He answered, Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant will be torn up by the roots. Leave them alone; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. Matthew 15:13-14. Jesus said leave them alone. What you are doing makes you just as bad as them.
@alastairmacleod9171
@alastairmacleod9171 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Pastor John. Daily early hour podcasts are a real Blessing to us. They are particular dear at a crucial time in my immediate family, and without saying all your brothers and sisters in Christ everwhere around the world and to those God is calling. May our Heavenly Father Bless you to overflowing in Christ Jesus, our Lord.
@myracornelio9354
@myracornelio9354 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Pastor John… I have learnt a lot through your anointed Preaching. God bless you!
@TheBibleStory
@TheBibleStory 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said. Calling out false teachers needs to be done very carefully and with right motives. And if we can’t biblically explain what makes their teaching false, we should pray and study His word more to see if it is false and why.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
so how do you feel about MDR.....marriage, divorce, and remarriage.....and while we are at it....OSAS.....once saved, always saved......and the ones that teach on this topic...
@reynaldoperez7285
@reynaldoperez7285 7 ай бұрын
​@philipbuckley759 God has always been in the business of salvation. All that ever lived and were saved. were saved by faith, BY HIS GRACE. From, Adam to the last man that would ever believe. No man has ever accomplished the perfection and sinlessness of the LORD JESUS CHRIST. WE HAVE ALL FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. WE ARE LIVING IN THE DAY OF SALVATION, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEART. TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE FREE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES. MY FRIEND, IF YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON, YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. IF YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS PERSON, YOU ARE NOT RELIGIOUS ENOUGH. IF YOU ARE A FAITHFUL PERSON, YOU ARE NOT FAITHFUL ENOUGH. IF YOU ARE A DEDICATED PERSON, YOU ARE NOT DEDICATED ENOUGH. IF YOU ARE A COMMITTED PERSON, YOU ARE NOT COMMITTED ENOUGH. IF YOU STOP SINNING, YOU HAVEN'T STOP SINNING ENOUGH. IF YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS MAN, YOU ARE NOT RIGHTEOUS ENOUGH. DO I HAVE TO CONTINUE? YOU ALSO HAVE FALLEN SHORT, AND ARE IN NEED OF A SAVIOR. THE JEWS THAT WERE BLIND CRUCIFIED HIM, THE JEWS THAT COULD SEE WORSHIP HIM, EVERY RELIGION ON EARTH HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIM RATHER THEY ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. JESUS HIMSELF, ASKED THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION EVER. WHOM DO YOU SAY THAT I AM? HE DID ALL THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD CAN DO, AND HE DID THEM IN THE FLESH. HE SAID IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME BELIEVE THE WORKS THAT I DO. I BELIEVE IN JESUS THE SON OF GOD WHO IS GOD HIMSELF IN THE FLESH. THE TRIUNE GOD OF ISREAL, THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY, WITHOUT THE RESURRECTION OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST THERE IS NO HOPE OF BEING RESURRECTED. THERE IS NO HOPE OF ANY RESURRECTION. King James Bible Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: MY FRIEND THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR ETERNAL LIFE. 29The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31(They replied, “(BELIEVE) IN THE LORD JESUS, AND YOU WILL BE SAVED) you and your household.” 32Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. 33At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized. 34The jailer brought them into his house and set a meal before them; HE WAS FILLED WITH JOY BECAUSE HE HAD COME TO( BELIEVE ) IN GOD -he and his whole household. IN JOHN 6 IT SAYS. 28Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29JESUS ANSWERED, “THE WORK OF GOD IS THIS: TO BELIEVE IN THE ONE HE HAS SENT.” JESUS IS THE ONE GOD HAS SENT. JESUS IS THE SAVIOR, THE MESSIAH, THAT THE JEWS WAITED FOR BUT DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM WHEN HE CAME. New King James Version and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, BECAUSE YOU DID NOT (KNOW) THE TIME OF YOUR VISITATION.” King James Bible He came unto his own, and his own received him not. AT THIS MOMENT THE JEWS AND MUSLIMS ARE WORKING ON THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BECAUSE TRUE RIGHTEOUSNESS COMES BY FAITH. BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS AND YOU WILL BE SAVED. New International Version Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS. ( THAT IF RIGHTEOUSNESS CAME BY THE LAW GOD WOULD HAVE GAVE US A LAW WHEREBY WE COULD GET SAVED. ) New International Version galatians 3;21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! (FOR IF A LAW HAD BEEN GIVEN THAT COULD IMPART LIFE, THEN RIGHTEOUSNESS WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE COME BY THE LAW. This verse clearly say that God never gave us a law, that could save us if we keep it, and that there is no law that was given for us to be saved by. So if we are not saved by the law then how are we saved? Answer by grace through faith in Jesus. Everyone trying to be good enough to be saved is delusional, Jesus is the only way to receive salvation. After you have believe the gospel and are saved, then you can live as godly as you want but not to get saved, but because you are saved. New International Version I do not set aside the grace of God, (FOR IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COULD BE GAINED THROUGH THE LAW, ) CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING!” WELL YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE. BELIEVE, IN JESUS CHRIST, BELIEVE IN THE DEATH BURRIAL AND RESURRECTION, AND BE SAVED. WHEN YOU ARE SAVED, GOD EQUIPS YOU TO LIVE A GODLY LIFE. YOU WILL BEAR FRIUT.
@somethinggood9267
@somethinggood9267 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it was very helpful.praying you feel better soon pastor john!
@JesusismyKingNL
@JesusismyKingNL Жыл бұрын
I agree, expose wickedness, to protect the flock also rebuke to correct and teach righteousness.❤🙏
@subjecttochrist
@subjecttochrist 4 жыл бұрын
don't just sling mud, provide evidence with a tone of fighting for the truth. my takeaway. God bless, watchmen.
@dykeneuk
@dykeneuk 4 жыл бұрын
"15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice."
@annemariefisher1559
@annemariefisher1559 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent teaching thank you Pastor
@kenbastian1980
@kenbastian1980 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, quoting throw out the scriptures!
@grigoriyshcherbina9374
@grigoriyshcherbina9374 4 жыл бұрын
I seen protestors protesting Todd White and was really confused but it helped me not fall into their teachings
@conradvn
@conradvn 3 жыл бұрын
Notes: 2 Peter 2:1-3 1 Cor. 4:6 • Who calls them out, when and how? • Matt. 7:15 Jesus speaking: Beware means Stay Alert (Especially Shepherds) • Acts 20:28 & Matt. 16:6 Talking is to Shepherds. Phil. 3:2, 18 Romans 16:17 • To avoid false teachers we must know who they are. Shepherds in particular should be aware to who they are. • 1 Tim. 5:19 “avoid” and “rebuke them” - But Elders, Shepherds and Church leaders should do this. Not every Tom, Dick and Harry. • Especially Pastors expose them but in an appropriate way. • 1 Cor. 4:5 Judge their physical actions and words but not their heart. Only Jesus knows the heart. • Judgement should be in detail. Dissect and explain scripturally and exactly why their ways are false but Elders who are wise and established in the Word should do this not any believer. • Do not sling mud. Don’t just name drop. Definitely not in self righteousness because we are not perfect ourselves.
@ezramicah1295
@ezramicah1295 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus continually told his disciples I am the judge, He is the one that determines your fate. We knowing the truth must be vigilant to call the false teachers out but we are not the judges. Romans 14 is very important on this matter. Help me Lord to speak truth and if I am in error show me through the Holy Spirit my error.
@r.crompton2286
@r.crompton2286 4 жыл бұрын
From a biblical perspective there's a problem in defining "false teachers." Just who among us can unequivocallystate that we have perfect knowledge of the Scriptures? The fact is, we are ALL guilty of some error. We may notknow our specific error(s), but with the large amount of verses that cannot be taken literally, we can be sure we have missed/ignored some of the truth. As a case in point, the issue of eschatology sees a wide diversity of opinion with scholarly teachers representing a wide cross-section of denominational thinking, aligning to Postmillennial, Premillennial and Amillennial perspectives. John Owen and most other English Puritans, were Postmillennial; John Wesley the Methodist, was historic Premillennial; D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones was Amillennial; C.I Schofield followed a dispensational Premillennial line of thinking. All of these great teachers could present numerous Bible verses out of different books/chapters to "prove" their views were correct. Obviously they could not all be right and more likely, they were all wrong about the exact timelines and order of events preceding the Day of the Lord. For this reason we would do well to be careful about "calling out" specific teachers just because they don't exactly align with our thinking. Nothwithstanding, there are numerous inflexible dogmas within the pale of Christianity that are supported by many Scripture verses. When teachers depart from these dogmas, infecting their followers with heresy, we would do well to censure them.
@r.crompton2286
@r.crompton2286 4 жыл бұрын
Ardent fan I fail to understand why you think I am misleading people. I suggest you carefully re-read my last two sentences.
@r.crompton2286
@r.crompton2286 4 жыл бұрын
Ardent Fan I should think that the context of my statement re exercising care on "calling out" had to do with secondary issues that Allen Clark's response correctly picked up on -- specifically (as one example),eschatology. A "false teacher" is a highly subjective term, depending on how we view other doctrinal stances. As I mentioned, there are many good Church teachers/theologians who do not share the same views. We must be careful that we do not assign demeaning labels to those who teach differently than ourselves, unless the doctrines negatively affect the spiritual responses of the hearers e.g. their response to any false gospel. I am no papist but rather a staunch Protestant; and I am sorry if you think any of my comments may have been an attempt on my part to advance in any indirect manner, Roman Catholic heresy.
@aureliojimenez8038
@aureliojimenez8038 3 жыл бұрын
Blessed is the man who walks not in the council the ungodly nor standeth in the path of sinners but God does say to expose but no good deed goes unpunished
@newperspective1318
@newperspective1318 4 жыл бұрын
More often than not when someone calls out a false teacher really it's just someone who thinks different than them. Even seeing the fruit of a true prophet can be tricky. Sometimes someone has more inward fruit of The Spirit than you do in a week. I say this to unite and help stop persecution of Christians by other Christians. Obviously there really are false teachers like Mormons.
@onefoundationministries1988
@onefoundationministries1988 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said better myself, we all need to be very careful who we call false especially if they are preaching Christ and His word, not all Christians will agree on secondary issues like- yes I'll say it- finances. The problem arises when people begin to uplift the love of things like money and miraculous manifestations above Christ Himself, or worse yet preach an entirely different gospel (like book of Mormon). God bless.
@e.n.6079
@e.n.6079 4 жыл бұрын
It's not about opinions but about preaching a whole different gospel like for example Joel Osteen.
@saragalinova7820
@saragalinova7820 4 жыл бұрын
E. N. Yes I agree, I tried telling my family, in a loving way that he was preaching the prosperity gospel, but they just told me that I was hating and judging him and now I’m confused
@newperspective1318
@newperspective1318 4 жыл бұрын
@@saragalinova7820 Rejoice Jesus said when you are persecuted for great is your reward in heaven. My family sometimes persecutes me too it's the way life is in 2020. Jesus said he didn't come to bring peace but a sword. To make a father against his son and a son against a father. A mother and against a daughter and daughter against a mother and a man's enemies will be the members of his own house. The reason this happens is because of arguing over Jesus words. Stay strong don't be confused and don't cast your pearls before swine. I can almost assuredly tell you if you tell your family what I just said they will turn and trample it under foot. God bless you. Go to my channel and subscribe if you'd like.
@saragalinova7820
@saragalinova7820 4 жыл бұрын
Church of Christ Ministries by Karl thank you so much. God bless you🙏
@peterhesedzao6455
@peterhesedzao6455 3 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest false teachings in Christianity today is the false doctrine that God loves everyone
@1stlove100
@1stlove100 4 жыл бұрын
The Light of Truth
@elizaleski9618
@elizaleski9618 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I needed that
@kevinjanghj
@kevinjanghj Жыл бұрын
I called out Joseph Prince of New Creation Church in Singapore to a friend who was attending it. He preaches Word of Faith doctrines and has been pointed out by various pastors in other denominations and congregations. That friend refuses to see it, claiming there is no perfect pastor. She's too deep in it for anything from outsiders like me to make a difference. Only God can help her now.
@cryptojihadi265
@cryptojihadi265 Ай бұрын
Yep. Far easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
@johnalvarez120
@johnalvarez120 4 жыл бұрын
I would say let the Holy Spirit guide you..there is a time and a place for everything. You can call out a false Shepard at the wrong place and wrong moment and cause MANY to become unbelievers..if you're gonna call out a false teacher you must be ready to then become a teacher
@mjazzguitar
@mjazzguitar 4 жыл бұрын
Let's say you have a family to support, you can't just quit your job and become a teacher. But if someone is teaching some crazy stuff and you can show their errors to the people being led astray, you are doing the right thing.
@dz7a756
@dz7a756 Жыл бұрын
​@danielsee6601 there are no gut feelings with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will bring the Lord's word to mind and the Lord's character when trying to discern a matter. That's why we have to know the word. There's a reason the Lord tells us to meditate on His word day and night: This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it; for then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have success. Joshua 1:8 NASB1995 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. John 14:26 NASB1995 Be well and be at peace.
@sherrithrasher6143
@sherrithrasher6143 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's more important to expose doctrine instead of person.
@vico100
@vico100 4 жыл бұрын
Great!
@Gordiemaster
@Gordiemaster 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@jls0037cslewis1
@jls0037cslewis1 4 жыл бұрын
Wicked Christians usually ostracized people they don't like, because they usually have power and not the advantage of the Word in the favor. The wicked churches always practice might makes right.
@hollayevladimiroff131
@hollayevladimiroff131 Жыл бұрын
Expose them. Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruited works of darkness, but rather expose them. Mormons come to mind!
@skywatcher7272
@skywatcher7272 4 жыл бұрын
CALL THEM OUT
@timsmith7224
@timsmith7224 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done. The only stumbling block for me u is a why does John piper himself associate with ministers of error even great error such as Rick Warren Very confusing
@jessyjonas4988
@jessyjonas4988 4 жыл бұрын
It is our responsibility to use the word to convince, correct, rebuke, exhort with all long-suffering and teaching. We have instances in the scripture where correction was given, ( Priscilla and Aquila spoke with Barnabas, Acts18:36, Paul corrected Peter, Galatians 2:11-14) not because of false doctrine but the people of God should be perfect , thoroughly furnished for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:17. So most definitely we need to admonish in Christian love, those who seek to pervert the Holy Scriptures.✝️
@robdavidson4812
@robdavidson4812 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor John. This was helpful.
@jonathangoodwin457
@jonathangoodwin457 4 жыл бұрын
My pastors also told me Don't listen to anyone on KZfaq a less it you're sure the good teacher
@paulkevinvideo
@paulkevinvideo 4 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a celebrity evangelist call out another celebrity evangelist. It seems to me this would have been the perfect opportunity for pastor John to call out a few false teachers. After all there are lots of them out there like Rick Warren.
@somethinggood9267
@somethinggood9267 4 жыл бұрын
How is rick warren a false teacher? Honestly want to hear what you have to say
@losdexters
@losdexters 4 жыл бұрын
We don't know if warren is a false teacher but his book ( a purpose drive life) really helped me when I was a tennager
@yellow.marisa
@yellow.marisa 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if Rick Warren is a false teacher, but his material really helped me in the first stages of being a Christian. I look for stronger teaching now, but back then it was what I needed to get started. I learned things like spending time reading the Bible, stopping bad habits, making time for prayer... basic stuff he taught me well.
@paulkevinvideo
@paulkevinvideo 4 жыл бұрын
@@somethinggood9267 Here's a link : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMtijK6Jmb7GqH0.html
@paulkevinvideo
@paulkevinvideo 4 жыл бұрын
@@yellow.marisa Glad you were helped : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMtijK6Jmb7GqH0.html
@duarteshelia
@duarteshelia 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@theprophetez1357
@theprophetez1357 4 жыл бұрын
Good video John.
@RolandRamirezTV
@RolandRamirezTV 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@patriciabrown4580
@patriciabrown4580 Жыл бұрын
Soul salvation, yes we should rid them out
@davidravaioli7860
@davidravaioli7860 4 жыл бұрын
Call them out for sure!!
@michaelcrandall1841
@michaelcrandall1841 4 жыл бұрын
I like the point on 1 misspeak vs consistent teaching of false doctrine. If a teacher can't be corrected, avoid them. The bible by the Spirit is the standard. Grace through faith alone. Works don't save but God grows the fruit. Obedience matters, but only what Christ accomplished can save you. Know Christ, know the pure gospel, and know what wolves teach and act like.
@mayowadan
@mayowadan 4 жыл бұрын
Note the pattern that Paul had in-person acquaintance with everyone he called out by name. Tread lightly dear siblings.
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt 4 жыл бұрын
Mayowa Daniel do you think a person can only call out by name someone they have a personal relationship with? Ahh. One more reason false teachers go on and on. All their buddies agree with them.
@honestb1216
@honestb1216 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we should call out false teachers.
@themancave4802
@themancave4802 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. One of the biggest false teachings I learned is that a Christian can lose salvation
@kirjian
@kirjian 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard Piper speak in such a tone
@mjazzguitar
@mjazzguitar 4 жыл бұрын
And He said, “See to it that you be not misled; for many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time is at hand’; do not go after them. - Luke 21:8 No one should deceive you in any way, because it is not until the apostasy shall have come first, and the man of lawlessness shall have been revealed--the son of destruction, - 2 Thessalonians 2:3
@markdurdle7710
@markdurdle7710 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with calling false preachers is that I see too many are doing it because they have heard someone else tell them to do it (e.g. another KZfaqr). And generally the people doing the calling out are going on some mis-understanding of what the preacher believes (often mis-quoted) or they don't have a proper understanding of scripture themselves. So all that is happening is the enemy is using Christians to create division in the Church. But it is good what Pastor John says about speaking truth at the end, instead of just slinging mud. My Gran would used to say, be careful you are not just declaring the works of the enemy instead of what God is doing.
@NYCNY92
@NYCNY92 2 ай бұрын
We for sure should I think it’s more important to call out a false prophet than someone who commits a sinful act!! False prophets prevent ppl from being saved which is far worse than the committing of sins as gods salvation was for the purpose of covering sin that he knew men would
@Norogoth
@Norogoth 4 жыл бұрын
My goal: Listen to John Piper IMMEDIATELY My obstacle: TONY
@jkadofo
@jkadofo 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaa nice one, lol
@davidravaioli7860
@davidravaioli7860 4 жыл бұрын
At the direction of the Lord
@samuelcastora8247
@samuelcastora8247 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's good to recognize false teachings, but I've seen some devote their entire ministry to only this.
@andrewortiz9226
@andrewortiz9226 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus told us to expose the deeds or works of darkness
@barbarahenderson4736
@barbarahenderson4736 4 жыл бұрын
God gonna do it, too many. They know who they are.
@c.g.ryderii2405
@c.g.ryderii2405 4 жыл бұрын
So would you sit back and watch a brother fall for a false teachers lies?
@dougmanley4714
@dougmanley4714 3 жыл бұрын
IF IT DOES NOT LINE UP WITH SCRIPTURE IT IS NOT OF GOD !
@claudiaholmes8468
@claudiaholmes8468 Жыл бұрын
Jesus didn’t shy away from calling out the false “teachers”. Sine we are told to strive to be like Christ, hold my beverage…
@nmm5214
@nmm5214 4 жыл бұрын
Avoid false teachers and false prophets.
@Sunshine-hx6hq
@Sunshine-hx6hq 4 жыл бұрын
Right. Mark and avoid
@sjhicksfamily5493
@sjhicksfamily5493 Жыл бұрын
False prophets and false teachers are 2 different things. A false teacher is one who teaches anything other than Jesus Christ being the only way to get to Heaven. A false prophet is one who speaks something or claims something that will comes to pass and turns out to be false. Calvinism is a false teaching that has led people to become depressed and also causes people to commit suicide wondering if they are the Elect. There are people who truly believe in Jesus and when they talk to a Calvanist they start to wonder if they are truly saved even though they really believe. So if Calvanisim is false then those who teach it are false teachers right? So sad to see so many Christian channels calling out false teachers when some of them are clearly false teachers themselves.
@henrybasic7386
@henrybasic7386 4 жыл бұрын
You mean like Joel Osteen?
@ThePlantoparadise
@ThePlantoparadise 4 жыл бұрын
or Steven Furtick
@BooThing14
@BooThing14 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly cannot understand how this is still a question. I am nothing and no one, uneducated by the standards of this world, unchurched up until I was an adult. And even I KNOW,, the word of God is CRYSTAL CLEAR on this matter. We do not judge sin or the sinner, we judge DOCTRINE. Because without sound doctrine their is NO SAVING FAITH....for example, paul rebuked those who stated the resurrection had already happened, called them liars and heretics, he called out people who loved the world as liars and heretics, he called out people who persued their own glory as "apostles" and talked about him behind his back as liars and heretics. He called out people who insisted on imposing ceremonial laws as part as salvation as heretics and liars. Their are things a TRUE BELIEVER KNOWS. 1. Their is only 1 God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob 2. 3 in 1 the Holy Trinity IS the essence of God. 3. Jesus IS GOD IN FLESH, DIVINITY in HUMAN form 4. Saving Faith PRODUCES HOLINESS AND GODLINESS IN OUR LIVES, we are not gods, or called to be rich and healed etc etc..that nonsense. We are called to be dead to sin, slaves to Christ..period. 5. Jesus will return Again to reign on this Earth after collecting His Bride, the Church, unto himself. These are the basics that CANNOT BE COMPROMISED..im sure there are more but, its time the church get a grip on the basics, contend for the faith, and consecrate themselves to the Lord. Its insane that we are still debating whether we call out false teachers or not..OF COURSE WE DO!!!!
@mjazzguitar
@mjazzguitar 4 жыл бұрын
We are saved by Grace, not by Faith.
@jacobgoris5998
@jacobgoris5998 4 жыл бұрын
No you dont critize them you help them on the points they are wrong at God Bless
@oldeagle2514
@oldeagle2514 3 жыл бұрын
Read your bible, get some knowledge, know God, Call Them Out!!!
@aureliojimenez8038
@aureliojimenez8038 3 жыл бұрын
If I had the power I can't see what I would do online
@Samantha-bj5xm
@Samantha-bj5xm 4 жыл бұрын
Scripture says we have to call em out infront of the entire congregation soooo Theres no room for hypocrisy
@theprophetez1357
@theprophetez1357 4 жыл бұрын
You are right Samantha.
@janekay4147
@janekay4147 4 жыл бұрын
There's a protocol to follow, first you go to the person in question and talk to them about it (in private), if they don't change you go them again this time with a second person and (still in private) if they don't change this time either then the church gets involved, if the said person does not change then the church can and should ask them to leave or step down from a position depending what it is.. Thats the Biblical protocol..
@praetorian5496
@praetorian5496 3 жыл бұрын
Scan their spirit, souls and body with the Word of God, and if they don't pass the scans, then ignore them, and stay away from them. Of curse having in mind that no one is perfect. We are not to do the work of the Holy Spirit, or "help Him", but on the contrary. We are to preach and teach the Word, not to point fingers to everybody that is wrong. Just an opinion.
@justusalmondwilliams9102
@justusalmondwilliams9102 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure they are false. Not one on earth is righteous and more often than not, the world’s discernment is false. When Jesus returns, no one will recognize him initially and all will consider him false. For just as in the times of Noah and Lot . . . #2020Vision
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 2 жыл бұрын
they teach......he, the one who says that divorced and remarried should remain in a relationship, described as adulterous......hmmm....next...
@CP-zb3ky
@CP-zb3ky 4 жыл бұрын
Question for John Piper: So then why did you not discern and expose Rick Warren's purpose driven lie and his accepting and working with false religions, instead you endorse and associate with him?
@matthewbrown995
@matthewbrown995 4 жыл бұрын
Source?
@CP-zb3ky
@CP-zb3ky 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbrown995 Source for which? Piper's association with Warren? Or Warren's Purpose Driven Life being apostasy? airocross.com/2012/02/28/john-piper-on-rick-warrens-chrislam/ This is not the only source by the way. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/famCl5B_xqioZ4U.html
@matthewbrown995
@matthewbrown995 4 жыл бұрын
@@CP-zb3ky Seems like your 1/2 correct. He supported warren but, according to the first source, he pretty much rebuked him after.
@CP-zb3ky
@CP-zb3ky 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbrown995 Ok, I haven't seen actual videos of Piper saying publicly he rebuked Rick Warren. Have you? Do send it if you have. I wouldn't call what Piper said down below a rebuttal, it seems more a CYA now that he was probably under a lot of criticism. Piper must have known what Warren was all about before he decided to engage and associate with Warren. This weakness of Piper's coupled with his other doctrinal errors I can't follow him. He's too much of a pleaser, this is a common character among those who are too eager to please and be popular with many, they start to veer towards pluralism. Billy Graham in his old age had similar issue. Likewise the Catholic Pope today.
@matthewbrown995
@matthewbrown995 4 жыл бұрын
@@CP-zb3ky first source you sent
@chantalbossert4465
@chantalbossert4465 Жыл бұрын
So firstly try saving a false teacher like telling them to repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is near, out of love and care for their souls. Warn the true sheep not to be seduced by seducing spirits and all that you know about false prophets to protect themselves do this in private. Trust me you do not want to make any one of these ravenous wolves angry they will tear you apart.
@jonathangoodwin457
@jonathangoodwin457 4 жыл бұрын
I remember about a year ago .someone said he was jesus Christ on one of the Comets And I was watching on KZfaq the beast . I will him and I said You are a false messiah. He argued with me I said if you are the messiah 1 Thessalonians 4 Christians will me the messiah in the clouds but all he wanted to do was argue
@kneokneo5792
@kneokneo5792 3 жыл бұрын
“The best protection against the darkness of error is the light of truth.” #word PS. On the topic of false teachings, blogs, books: Stay clear of “The Passion Translation” by Brian Simmons. If you need a good resource on evidence to convince your fellow brothers, check out Theologian - Mike Winger. Love to all, thanks Pastor John P
@peterhesedzao6455
@peterhesedzao6455 3 жыл бұрын
Refreshing to read translations of God's word
@peterhesedzao6455
@peterhesedzao6455 3 жыл бұрын
Avoid the niv
@the-trustees
@the-trustees 4 жыл бұрын
YES, call them out. Include yourselves and maybe humanity won't kill itself off.
@matthewhassanisaacridgeway2554
@matthewhassanisaacridgeway2554 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you tolerate Jezebel.....Shd truly is everywhere
@angemika5839
@angemika5839 5 ай бұрын
I thought you were going to talk about pastors in the image of your video, I was surprised because Billy Graham is a good pastor and I wanted to know if you had anything to say about him!
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
you go, to someone, no response.....go, with a wittness or two, no response....bring it up, in front of the Church...
@jacobstabler9138
@jacobstabler9138 4 жыл бұрын
Ironic- Piper endorses the ministry of Rick Warren, an out and out heretic, yet tells us it’s especially the shepherds job to watch for the flock.
@jandshatton331
@jandshatton331 4 жыл бұрын
I must say in defense to people. It's one thing to not say anything bad about another's ministry and it's another to endorse. If you call out every false teacher everyone today is guilty bc I don't believe anyone has it all correct. Especially when the seek to cause division by calling people out. Anyone who doesn't seek to restore his brother in truth hates his own flesh and anyone who so quickly cast off a fellow believer does not rightly discern the body of Christ nor the love He has for His bride and the people of the world. That being said those who deny Jesus coming in the flesh are of Satan and whoever does not confess the testimony of the cross is of the devil and whoever perverts the word of God to please and make room for his flesh and lust is the first born of Satan
@jandshatton331
@jandshatton331 4 жыл бұрын
@Ardent Fan I did not know that. I really fear their are not any preachers left anymore who are not falling into a category of false teacher. That being said if that's where the leaders are how much more the flock? Truth is only truth when it comes from God and not man.
@jandshatton331
@jandshatton331 4 жыл бұрын
@Ardent Fan That is very true. It's actually all through the new testament that the holy spirit is the perfect teacher and that Jesus is our teacher. My favorite is in ephesians 4. I just find it sad bc when it comes to witnessing and teaching truth people value the wrong opinions over truth refuse to truly surrender to Jesus.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
I quite like Piper but I have to agree with you there Jacob
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
Rick Warren has certainly taught some heretical stuff . Warren he's clearly very smart so I can't excuse him for just being naive on his really bad teachings. I believe he said Christians and Muslims believe in the same God .. And the whole Eccumenalismn thing (apologies if that's incorrectly spelt ) my spelling isn't great lol 😃
@nasticanasta
@nasticanasta Жыл бұрын
How else will you know them by their fruits. Jesus called out the religious leaders
@wheelworld266
@wheelworld266 4 жыл бұрын
You cant call Pastors out unless you replacing it with hidden mysteries of CHRIST God has revealed from within you
@lynnpoole3842
@lynnpoole3842 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone listen to Carter Conlon & David Wilkerson and you will never hear a false teacher..Ive found all other Pastors false ..well Voddie is true to the word too..These men never preach anything but the Bible..So lovely in a world like we live in today...
@scout11238
@scout11238 3 жыл бұрын
We should discern the error then expose them! Ephesians 5:11 (Just my memory verse today) " Take no part of the unfruitful works of darkness but instead expose them." False teachings is not Glorifying God in which it should be called works of darkness. Matthew 24:24 (Jesus' words) "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive if possible even the elect." Same words Mark quoted from Jesus in Mark 13:22 Paul called out false apostles in 2 Corinthians 11:13-14 "For such men are false Apostles disguising themselves as an apostle of Christ, and no wonder for Satan himself disguise as an angel of light." In 2 Timothy 2:17 Paul again called out false teachers, "there talk spreads like gangrene, among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus." And in 2 Timothy 4:15 "beware of him for he greatly opposed our message." (Alexander the coppersmith) We should call them out without compromise. Like Justin Peters who calls out false teachers boldly as much as John MacArthur and Allen Parr, Spencer Smith, Sean and many others. We should call them out to warn others of their wrong view and wrong teachings called heresy.
@JordanWindhamBenford
@JordanWindhamBenford 4 жыл бұрын
False prophets is the number issue going on in American Christianity today. Jeremiah 5:25-28,31 [25]Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you. [26]For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men. [27]As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich. [28]They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge. [31]The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
@aureliojimenez8038
@aureliojimenez8038 3 жыл бұрын
That means people who act nice but in the inside they really hate you the wolf in sheep's clothing it's kind of the world they put on a good front
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously sad... nobody explains the truth to me. People who get into my head have affected my life and heart and lead me in wrong ways only to then have me lead others in wrong ways unintentionally because of a whole lot of damn recordings of what strange conversations I’ve had with weird people
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan 4 жыл бұрын
I wish to stop the cycle but it just keeps going and going and going.
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan 4 жыл бұрын
Woe to the scribes I guess
@tessalogan586
@tessalogan586 4 жыл бұрын
It's not your job to accuse falsely ?
@maggslx
@maggslx Жыл бұрын
John Piper talking about false teachers... ahahah
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Got Hung for calling out false teachers! But they do not have that much power ToDay. It is each one us responsibility to Seek Jesus for ourselves and Know His Righteousness for our own life. Then we will Not be Mislead by false teachers. If we Follow Jesus..the Best..is to Forgive them and warn others that they should Seek Jesus For themselves..not depend on the opinions of Men..or women.
@jkadofo
@jkadofo 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kathleen, we meet again 😄
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Jeromy Adofo..Yes! There you are! Hello! My good friend!
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kathleen, haven't seen you for a while but have been praying for you ✋
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Marty Blackham..Yes! Hello Marty! Thank You for Your Prayers! They are working! I have cooled my jets somewhat! I still want people to be careful though..so I can't resist occasionally to reccomend some caution! Hope you are Well and Happy!
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 4 жыл бұрын
I'm being kept very busy with ministry work here in the UK. Like you my jets have also cooled so our comments must have helped each other ☺ hope all is well with you
@elijahrobbins7846
@elijahrobbins7846 4 жыл бұрын
7:43 Tony's grunt sounds like a fart lol
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
7 45 I think 😉
@BeyethereforePerfect777
@BeyethereforePerfect777 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically Piper has bought into false Calvinistic doctrines and teaches the 5 point TULIP, which is nowhere in scripture.
@simon4321
@simon4321 4 жыл бұрын
I think John just spunds like he's sick ^^
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
Bronchial or something the other guy said so he is sick
@jeansmith4852
@jeansmith4852 4 жыл бұрын
????
@Myjesus-1
@Myjesus-1 Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest lie in the Christian churches is the teaching that there is no escape from the flesh nature while in the body. In truth, the flesh has no power over those who have truly been Born Again. The struggle is when people try to conquer their sin by their own power, because they have not received the Holy Spirit: Scripture says, Collosians 2:11 "and in Him (Jesus) you were also circumcised with a circumcision performed without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ," This tells us that Jesus removes the flesh nature when one is truly reborn. Romans 8:9-11 confirms this: "But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you." The Apostle John said: 1 John 3 "Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister." Jude 1:24 agrees with John's teachings: "Now to him (Jesus) who is able to keep you from stumbling (sinning) and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy," Scripture also says: 1 Corinthians 10:13 "No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it." If your preacher does not talk like God's prophets and apostles, they are a fake. When the Apostle Paul spoke about his struggles with sin, he was speaking about his past before he received the Holy Spirit, because he also said: 1 Corinthians 15:34 : "Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God-I say this to your shame." Paul also said, "Those who are in the flesh cannot please God." Romans 8;1-8 When Jesus said, "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." He had not sent the Holy Spirit yet. Jesus told the Pharisees, "You will die in your sins." For anyone who dies in their flesh, they are guaranteed to end up in Hell. Scripture confirms this: “For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.” Romans 8:13. God's grace does not allow us to go on sinning. God's grace changes us. God's grace does not free us to sin. It frees us from sin. Decieved Christians have a false sense of security believing that they can sin until the day they die and still go to heaven, but they don't have faith in the power of the Holy Spirit to free them from the bondage of sin itself. Any notion of the freedom that God offers is quickly discouraged by false churches. There is more money in it for them if they keep their followers in the dark. There is no doubt, countless Christians who have embraced false doctrine have ended up in Hell. To deny the power of the Holy Spirit to deliver us from sin so that we can live a righteous life is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The Apostle Paul said: "Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14
@mattc.8887
@mattc.8887 2 ай бұрын
This !!!!
@twelvestitches984
@twelvestitches984 Жыл бұрын
Jesus never said that anything you don't want to be true is false.
@PLEBEJones
@PLEBEJones Жыл бұрын
Paul is the false apostle .
@MrJrock2010
@MrJrock2010 4 жыл бұрын
Change your view on divorce and remarriage . Preach Mark chapter 10 Mr. Piper.
@jonathangoodwin457
@jonathangoodwin457 4 жыл бұрын
That's not the subject on divorce we have a diff difference edge it but I do agree with you
@jonathangoodwin457
@jonathangoodwin457 4 жыл бұрын
divorce .we have a but I do agree with you jesus said if a person divorce You're not to remarry and tell That person dies. God said We are not divorce Only reason Moses said giver give it in writing for a divorce is because the hardness of their hearts.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares about Mark Chapter 10? I mean, those are merely the words of the Son of God /s These celebrity "pastors" don't derive their theology from KING JESUS, but from ecclesiastical tradition. "Let them alone. They be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." - JESUS Regarding "pastor," btw: pastor = poimen in Greek, the same word for shepherd. "There shall be one fold. And one shepherd." - JESUS "Call no man Rabbi. Neither be ye called teachers. For ONE is your teacher: even Christ. And ye are all brethren." - JESUS
@elizabethjackson7124
@elizabethjackson7124 4 жыл бұрын
Ignore them. The Bible says to let the tares grow with the wheat He will separate
@cahamm2
@cahamm2 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Jackson tares simply relates to unbelievers. False teachers are those that claim to not only be believers, but leaders within the church. It is not kind to ignore as we may spare those under their influence.
@somethinggood9267
@somethinggood9267 4 жыл бұрын
If they are leading people astray i think its best to speak up
@ilvibos3512
@ilvibos3512 4 жыл бұрын
That parable is about humanity in general, not the leaders of the church.
@somethinggood9267
@somethinggood9267 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilvibos3512 truth
@elizabethjackson7124
@elizabethjackson7124 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilvibos3512 Thank you for letting me know. I see so much wrong everywhere until I just leave the judging up to God.
@TheSearcher24
@TheSearcher24 2 жыл бұрын
Proverbs 18:13 [13]He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him. KJV . . Calvinism is defined by T.U.L.I.P. There is NO (R) in T.U.L.I.P and because there is NO (R) in T.U.L.I.P there is NO (G) in T.U.L.I.P either. Since there is NO (R) and (G) then T.U.L.I.P is 100% VAIN, 100% false, 100% heresy. The ATONEMENT 👉being alone👈 and nothing else does NOT save anyone who is a sinner! In other words: The ATONEMENT 👉being alone👈 is NOT what saves the ATONEMENT is only one aspect of salvation as a whole. What God's word truly says: Romans 5:10 [10]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, 👉we shall be saved by his life.👈 KJV The death of the Son of God reconciled sinners to God, but it's by HIS life is what saves. What the word of God DOES NOT say: Calvin 5:10 For if, when we were elected of, we were regenerated to God by the death of his Son, much more, being regenerated, 👉we shall be saved by his death.👈 T.U.L.I.P Calvinism Source #1): www.semperreformanda.com/doctrine-2/tulip-the-synod-of-dordt/ Limited atonement: The "Reformed Position: Christ's death was designed to actually secure the salvation of all of God's chosen people. Christ's 👉death secured and actually accomplished the salvation of all of God's chosen people.👈 God has determined that all for whom Christ sacrificed Himself 👉will be saved👈." Same definition Calvinism Source #2.): www.fivesolas.com/tulipscriptures.htm So moving along to (1 Corinthians 15:10-22 K.J.V) : 1 Corinthians 15:10-22 [10]But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was 👉NOT in vain👈; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. [11]Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed. [12]Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is NO RESURRECTION of the dead? [13]But IF there be NO RESURRECTION of the dead, then is Christ NOT risen: [14]👉And IF Christ be NOT risen, then is our PREACHING VAIN, and your FAITH is also VAIN.👈 [15]Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. [16]For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: [17]👉And IF Christ be NOT raised, your FAITH is VAIN; YE are yet in your sins.👈 [18]Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. [19]If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. [20]But now is Christ risen from the dead, and BECOME the firstfruits of them that SLEPT. [21]For since by man came death, by man came also the RESURRECTION of the dead. [22]For as in Adam ALL DIE, even so in Christ shall all be MADE ALIVE. KJV The preaching of (limited atonement) Is VAIN. Why? Limited atonement teaches saved by his death for the elect, does not teach the RESURRECTION of Christ. Limited ATONEMENT teaching goes directly against Romans 5:10 as well as others passages of the scriptures. There is NO (RESURRECTION) or (Gospel) in T.U.L.I.P. . So because there is NO (RESURRECTION) in T.U.L.I.P and because there is NO (RESURRECTION) in T.U.L.I.P there is NO (GOSPEL) in T.U.L.I.P either. Therefor, this is why the preaching and faith in Calvinism which is defined by T.U.L.I.P is 100% VAIN. Not only is Calvinism 100% VAIN and 100% HERESY. Calvinism is perverse and or perverted. Why? Because Calvinism is another gospel its not the Gospel of Christ, so therefore let calvinism be accursed. Galatians 1:1-12 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; 👉but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.👈 👉But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.👈 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. KJV Anyone that teaches calvinism defined by T.U.L.I.P is teaching a false gospel, is a false teacher.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 4 жыл бұрын
Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. LET THEM ALONE. THEY BE BLIND LEADERS OF THE BLIND. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. _ Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? BUT HE SAID, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. MAT15:14 & MAT13:24-30
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 4 жыл бұрын
And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: For he taught them as one having _authority,_ and not as the scribes. MAT7:29-30
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt 4 жыл бұрын
Too easy to call out prosperity gospel preachers. A little more difficult to call out guys like John MacArthur and David Platt and Francis Chan and John Piper and Matt Chandler because they bring a false gospel and yet they are really popular and well loved. Prosperity Preachers are not subtle... Calvinists are very subtle. Especially the evangelical Neo Cals.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
Prosperity Gospel is heretical . But whether someone is a Calvanist or a none Calvinist , that is a none salvivic issue (it has no bearing on ones Salvation) . The whole prosperity false Gospel on.the other hand can be a salvivic issue . Im not a Calvinist btw . But I have learnt some great wisdom and understanding through guys like Piper , Chandler , Matt, Platt ect
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
Btw some of these Propsperity preachers are just as popular . Kenneth Copeland , TD Jakes , Joyce Myer , Joseph Prince , Joel Olsteen ( I guess I would still call him that ) , Creflo Dollar
@darinmcdaniel7750
@darinmcdaniel7750 4 жыл бұрын
@@timsharpe6652 - highly recommend you throw Mr. Piper's(and the like) teaching out the window. You will never look back and will be blessed. In my humble opinion...the reason the calvanistic false religion is rearing it's ugly head as much as it is is precisely because of the false heretical teaching of the prosperity cult. One counters the other while true bible believers just continue to stand true to God's word and doing their best to live and share the love of Christ. There has always been false teaching on both sides and from every angle. If you put your faith in anything else but the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, you are now trusting in another gospel. Mr. Piper believes in another gospel and preaches another gospel, whether he ever believed the truth, God knows. It is a false narrative to say that somehow we can justify false teaching on one hand because of the blatant false teaching on the other hand. The truth will cast them all out. We should not allow even one tiny shred of untruth no matter how educated and groomed it may appear. (not saying you said this nor implied this, just my thoughts) If someone is big enough to be a star on either side of the coin, that should be all we need to know to walk away from both. The masses will always be deceived. Find a small bible believing church in your area and help out and serve Christ and you will be closer to the truth for sure.
@armondbrown5464
@armondbrown5464 4 жыл бұрын
@@darinmcdaniel7750 Romans 9 brother- and Amen the perfect life, death, burial and bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ is the pinnacle of our faith. I would however be careful to call someone a false teacher whose theological nuance based on biblical truth may be different from yours. The size of the church is inconsequential. I believe that even through the popularity of false teachers teachers-God uses their biblical ineptitude to expose them for whp they are and challenge the true church of God to pursue him in his WORD more fervently . And like Joseph said to his brothers"you meant this for evil but God meant this for good"..........
@Brick1978
@Brick1978 Жыл бұрын
How bout calling out Bishop Keith Butler in Detroit, I heard him say " it wasn't enough for Jesus to die on the cross, he had to do more" Butler teaches Jesus was taken to hell by the devil to be beaten up by demons in order to finalize our salvation. Did the Apostle Paul say that anywhere in the New Testament? No Did Jesus ever tell his disciples that after he died on the cross he had to be dragged to hell by the devil to be beaten and suffer some more in order to finish our salvation? No, Butler has a spirit of error in his church and ministry.His message concerning this is false and erroneous and he's diminishing the cross of Christ.I left his church right after I heard him preach this nonsense!!!
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
How are You going to know who is the False Teacher? When they all quote the Bible?! Catholics quote the bible. Protestants quote the bible. JW quote the bible. Mormons quote the bible. Scientology quotes the bible. Jim Jones quoted the bible. David Koresh quoted the bible! Hitler quoted the bible! So How Do You Know how to Keep from drinking the Koolaid? And how do you prove someone False when they are ALL quoting the bible? Why is Piper any more Right than anyone else? They all quote the bible!
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Ardant Fan..So..how do You determine that you and John Piper are the believers? And the catholic and Luthern are Not?
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Ardent Fan..So just what is it the catholic is doing that is opposite what is in the bible? What is it that a Mormon is Doing that is Opposite the bible?
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Ardent Fan.. I do not belong to any church..nor do I Listen to any Man. I Seek Jesus..Myself..for His Guidance for my life. I recommend people do this also..because Everybody who quotes the bible..None of them agree! In my opinion..anybody who listen to men are worshipping idols. People who believe everything John Piper says or Anybodyelse are no different than a catholic who prays to saints.
@jacqueline3089
@jacqueline3089 3 жыл бұрын
I Don,t Like false prophets
@spiderjump
@spiderjump 3 жыл бұрын
John Piper is a false teacher
@ckc1004
@ckc1004 3 жыл бұрын
Explain why instead of name dropping and cheap mud slinging.
@spiderjump
@spiderjump 3 жыл бұрын
@@ckc1004 he preaches that a believer cannot lose his salvation. that is a false doctrine made up by john calvin in 1500s .before the1500s , the church never believed that. Jesus Himself taught His disciples in matthew 18 that if their foot or hand or eye causes them to sin to cut it off, for it is better to enter heaven missing limbs than to enter hell intact.
@Todd_Kuhns
@Todd_Kuhns 4 жыл бұрын
Calvinism is a false teaching. How do we deal with those that teach that?
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