Should You Be Concerned if Your Gpa Trend Is Not Consistent?

Should You Be Concerned if Your Gpa Trend Is Not Consistent? | Ask Dr. Gray Ep. 140

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Today's student is worried that her GPA isn't high enough in light of her background. But can she prove her academic ability despite her GPA inconsistency?
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In this episode, we discuss:
• If ethnicity is a factor when medical schools weigh GPA.
• Why GPA consistency is important.
• If you should you plan to actively improve an application during an application cycle
• Can you explain a low GPA away?
• Will Adcoms understand the covid-19 situation when it comes to GPA?
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@anjanaswami7133 3 жыл бұрын

She's so well-spoken! I wish her all the best with applying

@SparklessMaterial 3 жыл бұрын

If her 3.65 gpa is too low, then I really don’t have a chance

@arianacareymariahgrande3582 3 жыл бұрын

It’s sooo much more than gpa, don’t like that discourage u

@mohammedismail3745 2 жыл бұрын

3.65 is an average GPA for medical applicants this video is more specific at GPA trends not overall gpa

@fisherkatlin111 3 жыл бұрын

I usually love these videos but I really feel compelled to comment here. As an avid Dr. Gray follower and fan, this is some of the least nuanced advice he’s given to a student. First of all, her stats aren’t even as bad as he’s implying here, 3.6x/3.4x students get in all the time, and if he’s actually concerned about not getting it at all he should just tell her to consider DOs. Second, when she asks does a good MCAT make up for a baddish GPA, he says “no” and proceeds to explain that it actually might: If schools give you a “stat” score or like an applicant index that is the sum of a bunch of different metrics, then an outstanding mcat w her grades is essentially the same thing as a great mcat with the VERY modest bump in GPA she’ll get from a year of post bacc classes. Third, Dr. Gray makes it sounds so easy just to take more classes. It’s not that easy - people have to work, it’s expensive, it’s time consuming. Frankly if this person has zero work/research/clinical experience, a year of nonsense science classes ain’t gunna help her out much, whereas working full time passionately in some medically related job could really tie her application together. It really bothers me that Dr. Gray didn’t even ask about any other parts of her app here.

@zazaiowens8125 3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. There are lots of medical schools that would take her. My stats are worse, but I'm still applying.

@hectorgonzalez6237 3 жыл бұрын

The energy >>>

@Pete-da-peter 3 жыл бұрын

yeah, you can still be applying, but are you getting accepted.

@zazaiowens8125 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pete-da-peter You never know until you try Pete! 😇🤞

@Pete-da-peter 3 жыл бұрын

@@zazaiowens8125 good luck

@zazaiowens8125 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pete-da-peter Thanks Peter. When are you applying?

@worldsavior2543 3 жыл бұрын

There’s a lot that doesn’t add up, I thought her stats GPA wise are fine.

@thephoenix7090 8 ай бұрын

her trends aren't upward

@fencinqueen 3 жыл бұрын

If I took 50 credit hours (34 science) and received a 4.0 my senior year, does that automatically count as an upward trend?

@marye3957 3 жыл бұрын

From what he says, yea.

@Teaslime96 7 ай бұрын

Just apply to DO or go to St George Medical School.

@ireneli5151 3 жыл бұрын

If you got a c and retake and got a B in general bio is that bad? Or I should show improvement in upper division courses to make it up?

@drewdoesfood 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve always heard not to retake but to take the next level course and get a much higher grade

@ireneli5151 3 жыл бұрын

@@drewdoesfood I meant D didn't realize I wrote C

@thephoenix7090 8 ай бұрын

if u got D u had to retake, C is the minimum@@ireneli5151

@whitenoise2473 3 жыл бұрын

So retake her pre reqs? SMP?

@shivmirani748 3 жыл бұрын

I’m also Asian American and by the time I apply next year I should have around 3.7 cGPA, somewhere between 3.5-3.6 sGPA and about semesters of upward trend, so I’m in a relatively similar situation (except for the trend). Should I be worried?

@edhcb9359 3 жыл бұрын

Have you taken the MCAT?

@shivmirani748 3 жыл бұрын

@@edhcb9359 nah I will be though on Aug 21

@edhcb9359 3 жыл бұрын

@@shivmirani748 Just be very careful where you apply. Apply to lots of schools and do the research to make sure you meet each school’s requirements. And don’t apply to schools where your GPA and/or MCAT are below their median. You’ll be fine.

@shivmirani748 3 жыл бұрын

@@edhcb9359 ok thanks!

@anushkasunshine 3 жыл бұрын

As long as you have a solid story and ECs to back it up you should be fine. Wouldn’t rely on MSAR completely imo. But fit is also really important

@iamrochellep6867 3 жыл бұрын

So a post-bacc would be her best option?

@ienpham1255 3 жыл бұрын

is 22-23 years old too young to apply to med school?

@onlyyemi 3 жыл бұрын

No, a good portion of traditional applicants are around that age.

@johna1219 3 жыл бұрын

Can someone please explain to me why a 3.65 is not competitive for an Asian applicant but it is competitive for a URM applicant? Not trying to stir up any toxic feelings here, just a genuine question.

@edhcb9359 3 жыл бұрын

Because in America’s new medical environment political correctness has become more important than patient outcomes. You will see more and more of this as we move closer to social medicine. Political correctness and cost containment will become the new standard of care.

@lucilar6560 3 жыл бұрын

as was explained to me by my SE asian friend in high school, the pool of asian applicants has higher stats than the entire pool of applicants. so a 3.65 is lower compared to the average for asian applicants, compared to where it falls in the pool of all applicants. this might not be true or up to date but thats how she explained it to me in terms of college application!

@johna1219 3 жыл бұрын

@@lucilar6560 But why is GPA even associated with race? Is it possible that between an Asian student with a 3.65 and an African American student with a 3.65, the Asian student is more qualified to be a doctor?

@aiahnour5542 3 жыл бұрын

Because historically, there are institutional barriers to underrepresented students in school. It has to do with the trends of socioeconomic status, educational opportunities and resources available. It's proven that African American/Black, Hispanic and Native individuals on average have lower stats to enter into med schools because they oftentimes lack critical resources compared to their White/Asian counterparts (tutors, MCAT prep, pre-med advisors, familial support, etc). Looking at one or two cases of URM/ORM doesn't provide insight into the idea, the entire pattern and trend of these historically marginalized communities is the reason why stats for URM are typically lower.

@johna1219 3 жыл бұрын

@@aiahnour5542 Interesting, I agree that there are barriers for certain individuals. But aren't there African Americans who are extremely well off, and Asians who are not so well off? In these cases, how does URM/ORM come in to play? Wouldn't the Asian still be expected to compete with the higher-stat Asian pool despite not having the resources that you mention? It's quite racist to assume that someone has access to resources simply because they are Asian, and it's equally racist to assume someone did not have access to resources simply because they are URM. As for critical resources, aren't these resources needed in medical school as well? If someone did not have access to them before, how would these resources magically appear when the student is accepted into medical school? Once accepted, URM/ORM vanishes. Very few medical schools actually provide resources for URM's. It's all about political correctness.