Ya that’s a great point and explanation! Thanks for commenting!

Ya the Utopia Hybrid is a great frame. I’ve considered riding one. Plus they have a lifetime guarantee! Post a vid and tag me so I can see it!

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If you do a lot of decade tricks, you'll see the benefits of a DTT or standing platform. Your feet will thank you!

Still alive ha ha :-) I’ll try and get some new stuff out soon. Glad you enjoy the videos.

That's a great question. Certain tricks are good to get down, no matter what bike you have. Others may be easier or harder based on the trick. What type of bike do you currently have and what tricks have you been working on?

Wow that’s a really good point about the extra leeway when doing steamrollers and whiplashes.

You can get a spacer for your fork race which raises it by 1cm giving you an extra degree of relaxation in the angle so if you have a 74* like mine it would go to 73* and they’re cheap

@@BlindingSun_ it fits over a built in race..not a bad idea but the steer tube length would have to be long enough as well...mine already is 3mm away from the top of my stem...not ideal, but that's good to keep in mind. I know some machinists that could knock that out pretty quickly.

@@nowherebrain they're good I love mine.. i mean my HA isn't bad but I like the extra degree it's nicer for hang 5's

You are in luck. Most of the complete flatland bikes are geared towards riders your size. If I were you, I would go for the Far East Cycles complete bike. It is available new on EBay right now. Alternatively, the Ares complete that is available on flatlandfuel.com would be a good size for you, but I think the Far East Cycles complete is probably a better bike. Here’s the link: www.ebay.com/itm/266211073025?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20221115143649%26meid%3D0e5db12cf5b2489fa051f50a7143138c%26pid%3D101617%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D266211073025%26itm%3D266211073025%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2Mobile&_trksid=p4375194.c101617.m5481&_trkparms=parentrq%3A88db28851890aa3752f224b0fffffab2%7Cpageci%3A0474f3a5-2a44-11ee-a651-b6130a8e0324%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage

Thank you for your advice. Thank you for your video content, I appreciate it so much.

The Proddy could totally work for flatland. It is available in a 19.5” tt, so I would go for that size rather than the larger options. The rear ended has an old school design to it and is a bit longer. It will make manuals a bit harder to get into, but easier to control once you you find the balance point. It would be a cool flatland rig and I would work for street too

It seems like a really cool and unique frame. I’d be interested in trying it out. It would be very different from what I’m used to. It’s got an old school style to it, with some new school modifications to the geometry. I think it probably be a great bike.

Ya a flatland frame will be fine for what you are doing. As long as your not jumping off rooftops or anything that will have significant impact. They are built well.

@@flatlandjourney thank you!,

That sounds like a lot of fun! How old is your daughter? If you think she will grow quickly, you might want to just go ahead and get her a small 20” flatland bike like the FEC complete. However, an 18” is going to be a better fit for her for her current hight. The Colony Horizon and cult juvenile both come in an 18” model and the frames are aluminum, which would be nice and light for her. You would need to add pegs, and a gyro if you are going to keep the rear brake. There is an 18” FEC flatland bike available, but it is more than the 20”, and I’m not sure you want to spend that much on a bike she will grow out of.

@@flatlandjourney she’s 13 and really inspired after watching japanese kids rinding on Ares York Uno’s videos. We looked at a Haro Bastille at a bike shop to see sizing. You are right, 20” would be a better fit and maybe just find a bike with the shortest top tube for her.

Flatlandfuel.com is pretty much the only place you can buy flatland complete bikes, but there really not many options for complete flatland bikes. Most of the completes that are on the market are for smaller riders.

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Ya the haro midway would be pretty good. I can’t remember if it comes in two sizes or not, but if it does I would go with the smaller top tube. That’s a solid bike though, I’d ride it!

I know this comment is a month old. If you are still having difficulty buying a flatland frame or a complete in NZ ordering from Japan is an option. Ares Bykes is an excellent brand out of Japan. LUX BMX is in Austrailia, they may have Flatland frames. If not there's always Flatlandfuel here in the States.

check the geometry of Fit bike co PRK i wanted a dk opsis sooo bad but cant fine one for sale. the PRK checks most of my boxes for a responsive compact 20" 🤙

@@joeyripswell Doesn't the PRK have a 20 inch top tube?

@@biketron it does Obviously a 19 would be awesome. But i like the chain stay dimension and the gyro. The prk comes in a few diff sizes. Im buying the XS pretty soon

Good question, there are some great hybrid frames out there that are designed to do well at both street and flatland. We the People has the Utopia hybrid that looks really nice. The most popular hybrid frame is probably the Haro La Bastille. The stand over hight is going to be a little higher on the La Bastille than a traditional flatland bike, so just keep in mind that it may interfere with whip trick more than a flatland bike with a lower stand over height.

@@flatlandjourney thanks so much!

Currently I am riding the Odyssey Path tires that I believe are 2.2”. I am going to go down to somewhere around 1.85 for my next set I think.

Just ordered a colony exon 1.75” I’m gonna try out

@@flatlandjourney Riding slim 🤓👍🏽!

1.80 at 100psi

Ya that’s a great way to do it if you are wanting to do more than just flatland. Honestly there are some street frames out there that I have seen that could pass as great flatland frames. The geometry is Getty really snappy.

Ya that will work. It has a nice short top tube, which will help for flatland. The chainstay is a little long, but functional. Just put some pegs on it and you can do flatland. Also, a gyro would be needed if you want to keep the rear brake. And a freecoaster hub would help

@@flatlandjourney if it is already equipped with 4 footrests and has the entire rear brake system with gyroscope. Another question, I am 35 years old and I will practically start from scratch. am i too old to practice flatl?

35 is not too old at all. In fact, many of the best riders are much older than you. That’s one reason I love flatland, is because it is a style of BMX riding that is less prone to injuries, so people can ride a lot longer.

@@flatlandjourney thanks for your words brother, between the ages of 14 and 18 I practiced with an ordinary bicycle and I always wanted to have a Haro or a GT. and now I was able to buy one and I want to try

@@jlrpercussion1917 Those Haro's are very expensive nowadays. The Haro I wanted is an easy $1,600 before swapping out the parts I don't like on it 😂.

I have a number of videos geared towards basic flatland tricks. Here’s one of the beginner tricks to help get people started. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p56mjceVr7jQkqM.html

Yes, a lot of those would actually work great. I had a 2008 Hoffman Bama, but it got stolen. It would have been great for flatland.

Good point. That makes alot of sense.