Hey hens! In an hour I'm gonna be going through my Eco Lifestyle footage from Sims Camp! www.twitch.tv/plumbella

I'm kinda disappointed in the traits tbh. They're all so positive. There should be traits like "rejects change" or "proud carnivore" or something that can stir up a bit of conflict between the sims who want to clean up the environment and sims that are ok with the way things are.

"as a consumer, my needs aren't necessarily being met" i think that's the most frustrating part. there's definitely improvement being made with how the sims team takes our feedback and reflects them in game, but there's still that lack of gameplay outside of the Save The Town™ narrative that's pushed every so often. no shade to those who look forward to the pack, i just feel this is a tired concept when things like more meaningful gameplay and quality of life changes are needed.

I really hate the traits. They’re all so similar to each other and so focused on tiny things. Sims 4 just feels so lacking in traits.

This pack is like when a makeup company launches a new foundation with 70 shades but 65 of the shades are white.

Bella cleary doesn't feel comfortable showin off her bum Very respectful of ya Jesse to blurr it out

Sims 4 Tory Town is the only way I’m referring to this pack from now on

I feel like tiny living and eco lifestyle should have been mushed into one pack. I feel like the containers could have fit in well with the tiny living theme. And the whole eco/off the grid thing obviously would have been great together. It almost seems like they're just trying to make as much money as possible🤔🤔

They couldn't even throw in a tree house for the kids? That would have fit this pack

Wait, they put apartments in this pack but not del sol valley 😭

I do be lovin "The Sims 4 Middle Class Life" though

My problem with this pack is that it gets boring when everything is so perfect, creating a utopian world should come with the dystopia and trait consequences on the sims.

All the traits could have been combined into one Tf😂

The more I see of this pack the more I realize just how dirty we were done by Island Living being an expansion and not a game pack. Look at that, actual content that significantly impacts gameplay in all worlds for all Sims in an interesting way! SHOCKING.

It’s just weird that THIS is the pack they put so much effort into??? Where was the energy w past expansions

Are- are these the traits??? Oh honnneeeyy, that’s awful. Candle maker? A trait? Might as well have a god damn doctor trait. Geez EA, you’re going down a rabbit hole lads.

Yes I completely agree with you about the skirt jeans combo - I was watching the live stream and they kept saying that those pants were a fan favourite... excuse me what

If you brought all packs that had been released by 2019 at full price you would have spent at least $600 and if you brought all of them during sales you still would have spent at least $300 Edit: I just did some more calculations, and currently, in England, if you buy all Expansion packs, Game packs and Stuff packs at full price, you will spend £519.68. However, this year we already know that we’re getting 1 new Expansion pack, 1 new game pack and 1 new stuff pack at least which brings up the total to £576.65 in Pound Sterling and in USD thats $702.96 Just for reference, a PS5 will cost around £500 so....

I think this would've been a good opportunity to bring back the Broke family. But I guess you can't have everything. BTW I appreciate all the likes.

Hopefully Paralives will push the sims team to improve and not be so complacent. The meshes are already a bit better so that's something. "Thanks, Thatcher" is always a northern mood

im honestly not even sure what could be done about sims 4. maybe its just me, but nothing seems to actually have me invested and want to play for more than 3-4 hours a save. however with sims 3, i can play so much longer and it feels like the sims just have a bit more depth to really make them individual, and even if the game runs a bit worse, open world is too good. it feels like even the fundamentals of sims 4 are too weak. i dont like the traits at all, they dont impact a sim whatsoever and theres only 3 slots and too little traits total, adding more doesnt even feel like its making much of a change. the emotions system also is just not impactful at all, which was the entire crutch of traits and the majority of this entry in the series. sims 4 is good for CAS and building, but as soon as i go into gameplay (i have most of the expansion packs, parenthood, and laundry day) i either end up feeling frustrated, bored, or just sad because everything just seems hollow compared to what sims 3 had in its own gameplay. maybe this is just me though, id like to hear what other people think.

girl i lost it at "middle class simulator" at 1:09

The Sims 4 Get polluted

I just wished they dropped hairstyles for black sims cause i feel we are always left out of development

Why don’t we get traits like „green thumb“ or „hates the outdoors“

the most attractive thing about this pack is the community spaces option, we love to see it. i wonder what modders will be able to do with it

RAISIN' RENT. I had to take a minute to *_breathe_*

there's a recurring theme with the sims: when they are about to release a new pack, they add a free update to the base game with something simple that should have been added in 2014 when the game came out (i.e. terrain sliders with get famous and ladders/firefighters with this pack), i assume they do this in an attempt to make these packs seem better but once you separate them it really shows how lackluster the packs are

While I am happy others who were more disappointed are changing their minds and are happier now, I still do not see myself purchasing this pack. The BB and CAS items do look pretty cool, but it's hard to justify spending $50 for some hairs, stretched ears, and cute furniture, especially when as someone who plays on PC I have access to the amazing CC out there. The game play in this pack is just, not for me. I am mostly a family game player. However, seeing how well constructed and detailed some parts of this are does give me hope for future packs and I am happy that the majority of the community seems more positive. :)

I would like to speak to the person who designs the Sims CAS, and then I would like to see what they wear because what the actual hell Also talking about clothes, Jesse's top is so cute❤

When she said lil simsies having a heart attack I died

Im studying a degree in urban planning, the sims 4 doesnt understand how boring this stuff actually is.

i didn't think it was possible for me to be LESS interested in this pack than i already was. i like that they included new traits but they just aren't doing it for me. the only thing i liked (from this video) was some* of the cas items and that apartment in the new town :(( this is definitely a pass for me. i just dont see as worth $50 CAD...

This thing with city projects that change the NPC's behavior kinda makes me think that we might actually get the story progression. It's just that now we have a tool to manipulate sims' behavior manually but the SP is basically about the game managing it itself

I really think they should have added traits that work with the smog part of the pack... This pack just doesn't sit right with me because it does seem very centered towards making the world more green... but what if I wanted to play as the (Australien gov) Anti-enviro person? how many options do I have for that. Also, I really with they brought Gems and Gemcutter back...

Some of these new "traits" aren't even traits they are like hobbys or half fleshed out aspirations 🤷‍♀️

Hey dudes let’s stop giving EA money for things we aren’t happy with. I gave up on sims 4 because I can just rely on youtubers like plumbella to keep me updated, and I’m back in sims 3 loving life ✌️

What I love about #EcoLifestyle -All off-the-grid items & use of sustainable/renewable energy sources -Free placement of doors/windows -Sims 1 table & other nostalgia items -Firefighters (fingers crossed for career too!) -Vertical gardens, Juice-making & object crafting & more What I hate about #EcoLifestyle -Evergreen Harbor (not my style) -CAS (especially for masculine choice) -How our sims can interact SO MUCH with trash without getting infections and such [Seriously, wasn't it about time to make those doctors from GTW useful?]

The trailer did that pack so dirty I-

this pack feels like: urban outfitters, the game.

The thing that stills frustrates me is that I still don’t feel like there’s is enough new content to make it worth $40. Like they’ve taken elements that we’ve seen in other packs(that were presented very badly) and now they’re trying to redo their mistake and put Into one price. It’s not fair for the sims teams to putting bits and pieces into each pack so they can milk us for a while.

Portland: the expansion pack

Was Waiting for this. The live stream was just too much to listen to.

It's too expensive for what they're giving us, even on sale...

This pack would be fine if it was a GAME pack. But no way I'm paying 40 for such a niche concept. They made a terrible mistake by making it an EP. They got too greedy.

Just came from watching the livestream and I’m genuinely enamored and appreciate the thought put into it, regardless of what we need/want outside of it. It’s all fun and games to roast it and make jokes, but I see it as a major shift in the team actually getting excited about making a pack, talking about the pack, and putting detail into it. Which is something I haven’t felt from them in quite a long time, so it feels inspiring to me! I found myself hanging on to every word said while watching all 2+hrs of the stream and I can’t say I’ve felt that energy from them from any pack until now. The streams seemed aloof and forced with even key packs like university. I’m honestly super here for it! Anyway, that’s my vibe! 🥺💕

Now that we can eat insects I’m thinking the Sims 4: I’m a celebrity get me out of here series

It’s just so situational and that’s annoying to me. Like, seasons and pets are things you can use in all situations but other than once or twice, depending on the player, how often are you gonna clean up the neighborhood in comparison to...always having seasons

Wait, they're going to be adding firefighters to the game? OMFG, do you know how many Sims I lost the first time I played the game because I didn't realize there weren't any firefighters and essentially the smoke alarms did nothing? I'm so mad!

"that's presented, not paid" lmaoooo

I’m glad your not just telling us to “try” the game like some other game changers. While I value your opinion I have to remember you get these expansions for free so I have to remember that I also have to spend a pretty penny. I wanted a pack where I could look after a child in more detail. I’m definitely not buying this expansion at full price.

as a fellow asthmatic, "struggle 2 breathe" really does it for me, so thanks

One thing I haven’t seen anyone talk about is: If the pollution affects all worlds, it also affects Sulani. Right? Which means that one of the features of Island Living became completely useless... and that’s the tea 🍵

The tories created this pack instead of creating a good brexit deal...but at least they gave us traits?

"The Sims 4 Gentrification Pack" LMAO THAT WAS EXACTLY MY FIRST THOUGHT.

I just gotta say: Even though I’ve been playing the sims for a long time, I was never really interested in the community, never really watched any sims youtubers. Then I found you! Now I watch ALL of your videos, just because I like you as a person so much. You could talk about anything and I’d listen! Keep on rocking, hen! (Also I was very disappointed to learn that hen is dialect for hun, I thought you were calling us like, literally hen, a female chicken... thought that was very cute :((( )

As a fellow asthmatic, I'm living for "Asthmatic life" 😂

i would’ve loved a trait like slob or something, something that goes against the eco stuff to make it more interesting

I think, this is a shot in the dark, but I think the eco-items are so big because you are not meant to have them on your personal lots. Maybe one of the creation items and a wind turbine or solar panels but I think the bigger items is EA way is discriminating the player staying on their lot and instead going out to the Community center and/ or being active in the community. That can be a pain because of the loading screens but it could add a level of engagement for the players as they are playing with this pack.

“Lilsimsie is probably having a heart attack” - I died 💀💀

Tbh I'm more interested in the BG update but oh I can taste the broken mods.

I haven't even watched the video yet but "Hey hens" made my day

Somewhat relieved that the EP has more depth than depicted in the trailer. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to have impacted gameplay to the extent it should in view of its pricepoint (which IS on the premium side across all types of currencies, whether or not you can afford it). Recycling animations, limiting interactions, end of the day its just same same but wee bit different as Plumbella described. The rapport between simgurus & the community doesn't diminish our role as consumers. Unlike cc creators/modders, these guys are working for their paycheck just like every other job. We don't owe them anything besides polite constructive feedback. We're allowed to feel dissatisfied, we're allowed to criticise as we do with any other purchase. End of the day, if EA tried selling S4 as a single game all-inclusive at over 600$, no one would buy it. And that just reflects the quality of gameplay it offers, of which they've still failed to rectify and improve upon with this EP. Happy for those who want to buy it, you do you, but this just didn't cut it for me.

EA: save the planet! Ea: *gives you plastic disposable box with code for expansion pack written on it instead of actually putting the case to some use by putting a functional disc in it*

I’m big fat SHOCKED that cas is actually so cute

when you and james post at the same time....,you’re first, hen.

being able to turn the smog off would be great, i can imagine it’ll get old FAST like the Strangerville mystery. and the build/buy items doing look super versatile in all worlds. i feel in a few months when the pack isn’t new, some opinions about it will change that’d probably be a better judge of if the pack is worth the money. i definitely don’t think it’s worth spending the full price.

“New expansion pack” I thought it was a stuff or game pack wait wtf

After seeing bits of the stream, I was becoming hopefully optimistic! I’m glad that it’s appearing to shape up as a worthwhile pack. I’m still a bit miffed that candlemaking and nectarmaking were modded in before EA got there (which was a huge sign of EA’s lack of communication with the fanbase to me for so long), so I’m hoping that this new gameplay is as immersive as it seems. It does also appear that you might be able to interlink some of this gameplay with the gameplay from other packs too! Imagine a politician in Evergreen Harbor, or a new way to play a social influencer who makes DIY videos.

I think a lot of people are sleeping on the fact that there's a lovely eco-friendly lesbian couple and their adorable daughter in the town 😊💚 I love me some representation huns

*”might show up at yer house”* *eco friendly vlad has entered the chat*

During the livestream when they were showing off the CAS items they said the jean skirt with jean pants combo was a “fan favorite” Not sure if they were being sarcastic...

4:08 Wait so does this mean we can have other lots assigned as Apartments now? Or is it restricted to this lot? I won't be surprised if it's the latter.

I love the free love aspiration in the one town on the stream. It's a legit a polygamist town... This is right up Plum's street!

i downloaded sims 3 again ( with generations and seasons) for the first time since sims 4 came out because it caters so much more towards family gameplay and i've forgotten how much the sims 4 left out for kids. like there was always something for kids to do without even objects. they could play make believe with chairs and couches and have pillow fights and be read bedtime stories. sorry i know this has nothing to do about this pack but i needed to rant

hmm idk, we've given EA a lot of our money with the sims 4 so YEA the bar is high! i just feel like once you finish cleaning up the town you don't have much else to do with this pack. I appreciate an EP that can appeal to any story-line, this is an overpriced game pack IMO

I had low expectations for this pack after the trailers but can honestly say I’m now excited , maybe it’s a lack of other stimuli during lockdown but maybe ea have actually pulled through

"Baghead has a totally different connotation in the north of England" *looks up baghead.* lmaoo I am sent.k

9:22 I love that Jesse included Billy in this lol

“I’ve got asthma, so I can make that joke” I also have asthma, and I laughed so hard at this it turned into a wheeze 😂

TORY TOWN IM SCREAMINF

Wow the last time I was this early I had clear skin

I lol'd at the blurring out of your pups bits. You're so funny Plum.

This is why i love your videos you always keep it real and honest for us simmers saying what needs to be said but also being respectful too, thumbs up!

Knows full well I won't be buying this pack because I'm over EA's bs: watches anyanyway because it's plumbella

“Surprisingly easy to be wheezy”

i genuinely love you. literally the only gamer i can watch and not be bored

It's literally The Sims 4: Get Gentrification. Me and my brother were joking that the new system could be used to create ghettos & suburbs. 😶🌚😶

I didnt know we got reviews THIS early omg 😍

there is so much to this pack it’s sad everyone give so much hate over a 2 minute trailer. i’m really into making the environment better irl so i can’t wait for this pack - it’s cool if you still don’t like the concept of the pack and wanna give your opinion on it now but it doesn’t make sense to give a strong or hateful opinion after watching a short basic trailer when you haven’t seen even half of the gameplay/CAS/build and buy.

My play style is quite "picture perfect" with no chaos, no fighting, no death etc., so the "eco Utopian" story line would be enough for me as I would never use the industrial story line for anything else than a "before". That being said, I do see that it is a shame that it is not so developed and the eco Utopian. For the more "daring" play styles.

You summed it up so thoroughly and yet it still bores me :(

this is missing metal straws honestly they missed the vsco girls (who died mysteriously like the plants in the town)

Would love to see how this pack effects being able to live like it's the past (my fave thing to do) because it's frustrating to always need to have toilets, fridges etc when you're trying to live your little house on the prairie fantasy.

The expansion packs are so expensive I have like 3 and the rest I don’t 😭

Today was the first time that I noticed your little translation part in the description, and think it is funny that you say 'our' mom you mine my mom. It's the same in the dialect of the province I'm from in the Netherlands. Just thought it was a fun shared thing, haha :).

Me and my asthma are LIVING for this pack

Last time i was this early Jefferee star had eyebrows

I can't get over how much your videos make me laugh and brighten my day! Been watching Sims YT way too long to only have discovered this channel recently, but I'm so glad I have

I absolutely LOVE your reviews and they way you set them up and edit them. I don't know I kind of like how instead of wasting time going through each item you just kind of talk through them generally while also showing them to us. It's great. Also you're a great person socially, I haven't said this before : )