Should You Upgrade? Spitfire Audio's FREE BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover to CORE v1.1.9

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Should You Upgrade? Spitfire Audio's FREE BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover to CORE v1.1.9

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4 жыл бұрын

Over the last couple of weeks, one of the most common questions I have received is: Should I Upgrade from Spitfire Audio's FREE BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover to the BBC SO CORE?
Like so many questions I get there isn't a simple answer. It all depends on what level you're working at, what you are creating, and what your needs are as a music maker.
In this video I try to break down the differences between the FREE (or $49) BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover and BBC Symphony Orchestra CORE sharing instrument differences between with 2 mock-ups using the libraries and final thoughts on who will benefit from the upgrade as well as who I think will just not need to upgrade.
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In this video I set to answer the question: Should You Upgrade? Spitfire Audio's FREE BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover to CORE v1.1.9
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@Ineptune 4 жыл бұрын

As a poor college student and aspiring film composer Discover is an absolute God send. It allows me to make perfectly passable and nice sounding scores for nothing. One day when I have a couple hundred bucks to burn I'll upgrade, but until then there is no need to upgrade. Spitfire has gained my lifelong support. Loved the video.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Ineptune!

@RebelNMotion 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man if you create an account at orchestral Tools and download the sine player you can buy individual instruments from the inspire collection super cheap and great sound from the Teledex stage. They also have the Layers free to download. Most of my stuff I started with were from free instruments from Spitfire's labs. RedRoom Audio's free Palette orchestra and Garageband's free instrument series. I would also check out wave runner audio and Insanity Audio They have a great Cello,Violin, Tuba and Trumpet instruments. Excellent quality for ridiculously low price. Play on Player!!!

@preamble466 3 ай бұрын

Crazy how I’ve been watching your bus videos for years and now stumble upon you again in the sample world. Great job.!

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 ай бұрын

That is awesome!

@musictomotion 4 жыл бұрын

I updated to Core a few weeks after downloading Discover. Well worth it! All of the extra articulations definitely make this mid-level version a great sounding and very capable orchestral package at a reasonable price.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Michael. Good to hear your getting a lot out of the library

@johnhill762 2 жыл бұрын

Discover is very "roomy" and seems to have lots of reverb and space (no close mic sound). Is core the same big roomy sound, or are the instruments a little clearer? Is it only Pro that has the closer mic sound?

@thomaslausen3249 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhill762 Core only has one mic position which is Mix 1

@DrFrankenolly 4 жыл бұрын

PLEASE, would love a recommendation for ensemble libraries!! Thanks again, loved the breakdown between core and discovery.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Hey DF, thanks for letting me know

@joelremiel 3 жыл бұрын

@@SampleLibraryReviews I would put in my plug as well. Great review! Do you also own BBC Professional and if so, what do you think of it?

@DanaVastman Жыл бұрын

All the Albion's are ensembles. Wonderful... Or buy UNIFY and MAKE YOUR OWN with ANYTHING you OWN

@tieukhavu8832 Жыл бұрын

@@SampleLibraryReviews You can’t play legato with the Discover one?

@thewrenchreviews9986 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comparison Don. There is also the "orchestral addiction" aspect working here. Once the more enhanced articulations and legatos are experienced, the lure of the top end Pro version will be an overwhelming siren song....more, always more.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Greg, Good point! I also should have included a brief sentence that PRO is the version for those wanting to blend multiple libraries together as you get all the mic mixes and can send all your libraries Clore/dry out to a bus for reverb cohesion

@mehtes 3 жыл бұрын

Yes please, do make a video of your favourite ensemble libraries! Thank you for this video, it really helped to clear some doubts

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Matias Gibbs

@enterfusion 3 жыл бұрын

I making music since 2 Months now, and I have no experience with Orchestration but a huge interest to try it out. So, I have fill out the formular last week and looking forward to next Sunday, to try out Discover :) I think its an great opportunity to get the chance to try out an orchestra for free and get nearly all instruments at a good quality recorded in the same room. :)

@grobinson9352 4 жыл бұрын

Yes I would very much love for you to do an ensemble video for us working struggling stiffs :)

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Hey G thanks for letting me know. I appreciate the input

@sarty23 2 жыл бұрын

@@SampleLibraryReviews How is there over 30 techniques in discover? Where are they?

@dezinerAhmad 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing insight.... Thanks Don .. My music Journey is incomplete without your support..

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Md thank you for the kind words and myself and the entire SLR team are so pleased our videos are helpful

@SuperPLo22 4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I needed. I produce electronic music, (trance is typically what I focus on), and I've been wanting to incorporate more orchestral sounds and aspects since I started but until now I'd only found string and brass samples that gave texture so I'd been adding pad layers to really fill the space and extend them. Right now I'm going to stick with Discover to see what I can accomplish and really add to old and new tracks, but I can definitely hear the difference in the brass and string options and how much more I could really add using the legato, marcato, and collegno options. Even though I don't necessarily plan to write film scores or other real symphonic pieces right now, the reason I hope to upgrade to core at some point would be for the section leaders. I'd love to use them as leads in songs without feeling so spread out.Discover's sounds sort of feel like they should be behind something else or all working together, not as much individually. I've got plenty of time to make decisions and decide where I really want to continue to go with my sound with this new addition to my vst library but thank you for giving me better examples and ideas of what I can potentially do if/when I upgrade!

@realheadphonecandy 2 жыл бұрын

You always have such great reviews. I’ve watched tons of them over the last few years. Very thankful for your work.

@SampleLibraryReviews 2 жыл бұрын

Hey HPC so glad you find them helpful! Thanks so much for the supportive comment

@mauricelevasseur9987 Жыл бұрын

This has been more than useful! Thanks. I just get the Discovery free version and of course you are soon asking yourself if you should upgrade…or even go for another one (Nucleus?). But you are SO right when suggesting to fully explore what you currently have and make a move only if you missed something.

@mprgscannertours 3 жыл бұрын

Wanting Core is like wanting a new car. Bells and whistles, richer, tighter but while it gets you from A to B in more comfort it still only get you to B. If you struggle, if you are learning then get Core over Christmas sales when and only when you need it. Alternative? Find a friend with Core or Pro and get them to change a track to lead horn solo for you. Just write the track using the horns you have but plan for it to be a solo.

@RebelNMotion 3 жыл бұрын

There are a number of libraries out now that can achieve the bredth and width of BBCSO Core. The real question comes down to your ideas, genre, mix and use of instruments. I made list of libraries I own and what I use them for and at least one critique. Spitfire Albion 1- Perfect for large scale ensemble productions on a tight schedule such as movies, trailers, games and commercials. Cons: Despite multiple mics it is still less intimate than a dedicated section or lead. Spitfire Albion 2 - This no longer an available Albion, but their new Albion Neo takes its place. Great for homogenous movement between the string, brass and wind sections. It's design to capture emotion with non traditional orchestral instruments like, Sackbutts, Horneuphs, Recorders. This brings out character withour overpowering the piece and sitting perfectly for underscore. Con: Very unique library which mainly fills a small market of non traditional arrangements. Best really for genre pieces like WW2, European highland and Elizabethen period pieces. Sonuscore and Kirk Hunters Virtuous Ensemble The Orchestra - This is by far the most flexible, quickest and unmatched in its ability to create orchestral mock ups or finished mix. Light cpu footprint and massive amount of presets. Con: Kirk Hunter Virtuouso - Limited Articulations for core string, brass and woodwind. The Orchestra Con: Articulations are limited and fundamental. At this price point I would expect there to be more instruments. They added a percussion and piano element which is awesome and you need to plan your track. Multis on Kirk Hunters VE are extremely well sampled and arranged. I have many others but I'm finishing a project.

@BillGraper Жыл бұрын

I did notice a violin sound with the oboe when I played the Discover oboe in my DAW. It sounds like a mix of the two, when all I want is an oboe (you know... because you want them separate. 🤔). I might look for a better oboe VST & use it instead of the one in Discover. I can clearly hear it in your video as well. That's basically my only complaint with Discover. I think the instruments sound great, especially for a free VST. I can't afford the Core right now. I've already put too much $ into my music lately. Thanks for the video!

@Hybrid74 3 жыл бұрын

Great video with great handy information and knowledge regarding the BBC Core library and your thoughts in general in the aspect as a musician and composer. Thanky you very much! :)

@stevenmerrell5565 Жыл бұрын

I have Spitfire Audio's Albion One Kontakt library and BBC Discover. I would love to upgrade for the solo stuff. Thanks for the review.

@SampleLibraryReviews Жыл бұрын

You are welcome @stevenmerrell5565

@arivirtanen2568 3 жыл бұрын

Now when Core is on sale for 220, i think it’s a no brainer to upgrade if youre serious and can affort it. Thanks for a great comparison.

@alexb543 3 жыл бұрын

fuck I missed it.... :(

@gingataff 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexb543 240 now if you have Discover but only this week

@im-essi 2 жыл бұрын

314€ right now, not sure for how long (says "January Highlight" so guessing it ends 31st)

@markbutcher4100 3 жыл бұрын

Spitfire spec a powerful computer system for core. I just have a 2016 MacBook and discover runs perfectly on it. However so does their epic strings which sound good, I use the rest of logics orchestra and it all sounds fine with zero hassles. It’s all just for my own amusement but I’ve been fooling with music software since 1985 and zero hassles is just fantastic!

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Couldnt agree more. Zero hassle is fantastic!

@eddiedpaulding550 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, my compositions wants as many souls in the orchestra as possible. Core brings all the angles I seek.

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Always pleased when the videos are helpful and useful Eddie. Thanks for your comment and support

@BlackTemplar59 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks tout so much for this. It has been very helpfull. I am training to write symphonic poems (so right between classical orchestration and epicness of film score). I think i will keep going with the discovery version until i've mastered it. I will also get the Originals Epic winds brass woodstrings and cinematic percussion to have some sections samples with more articulations (to wait until i am ready to get core edition).

@IngoGarza 3 жыл бұрын

3:48 Cries in FL Studio (but I've made my own)

@Taronites 2 жыл бұрын

I'm super grateful for Discover and it can enable remarkable moments. However, besides missing dynamic layers, the sampling is also very sparse. Strings show that rather dramatically as it looks like each sampled note has to cover at least 6 half notes, I think. It miraculously doesn't destroy the impression, but that's been about as tight to the threshold as possible, before formants break down entirely. Still, an unbelievable gift and super clever of Spitfire Audio!

@mrfuzztone 4 жыл бұрын

nice review Sure an ensemble library review would be great

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mrfizztone. I’ll get on it

@ShiningHourPop 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video and very timely as the sale ends today. I downloaded Discover on Friday and am debating whether to buy Core. And er, the studio is pronounced “Mayda (as in Darth Vader!) Vale” 😄

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome ShinningHourPop - thanks for the pronunciation, Hopefully I will remember that now and every time I will think of the Dark Side ;)

@groundzerorocks 3 жыл бұрын

Hey there could you shed any light on how this "BBC Symphony Orchestra" works in conjunction with using it on certain projects, I heard somewhere you can't use it for commercial use? I'm trying to clarify this before I consider upgrading to core. Thanks in advance Great video btw.

@karl.weaver 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time and knowledge Dan.

@giampaorrigo 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this very informative video! Of course now I really really want to upgrade to Core!

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Hey GO so glad the video was helpful for you.

@officialTonestepa 3 жыл бұрын

May da vale. Try saying that. That’s how you pronounce it. Not that it’s important. Thanks for the content. I need to upgrade for sure I’ve taken Discover about as far as I can and need those subtle nuances to get the results I need. It’s the cost though. There doesn’t seem to be any way of emulating an orchestra realistically without spending some serious cash. It’s frustrating for those of us who just can’t afford the high prices at the moment

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Anthony

@georgemickel6608 3 жыл бұрын

I'm very new to Discover, as of yesterday. My question is, what is a "round robin"? The main reason I started with Discover is the percussion, that's my primary focus. Thanks for the video and listening to your comparison was awesome.

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Hi George, welcome to the channel and thanks for the question. Round Robins are the number of samples recorded for each note at a specific dynamic for a singular articulation. The more round robins that are randomly (or sequentially triggered) the less like the human ear will hear a "machine gun" effect with all the same notes played in sequence sounding un natural. Hope this helps

@dennisvandermeer8238 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. with a lot of detail. Thanks for this

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Dennis glad the video has helpful

@charliemcgrain 3 жыл бұрын

Maid (as in female hand servant) A (as in apple) Vale (as in small valley) MAID A VALE.

@PJ-ee5mc 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful! You have a great style in your presentation. I am now sold on core. You mentioned that there were many soloists. Please tell me that there is at least a basic solo cello & violin in Core.

@CraigRodmellMusic Жыл бұрын

There isn't. That was one of the compromises I had to accept when I bought Core. There are soloists in each of the Woodwind and Brass sections. In my own scores, I use - for example - four solo horns, one for each part, which is how they would normally operate in an orchestra. At present, I am adding string solo parts from hardware that I already have, but eventually I will get a solo string library, when budget (or lack thereof) permits. Similarly, Core doesn't have a Cor Anglais, Bass Clarinet or Contrabassoon. Again, these can be added from other sources. What Core HAS given me is my own private orchestra, whose sole job is to play my music - a luxury even the likes of Beethoven didn't have! If you're interested in performing your own orchestral music, get it if you haven't already. They do have sales from time to time. I got Core in the sale they had last August, and the saving more than made up for the additional cost caused by currency conversion.

@daftdogjw 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this Don.... great work and super-helpful :-)

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

WonderfulJohn so pleased it was helpful for you. Thanks for the comment

@robertj1303 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. I upgraded to Core from Discover when they last had a sale and got it for a really good price. What I think is more dubious is going from Core to Pro unless you are already a good sound engineer and know mic placements etc. Question is what do you need that Core doesnt give? Choir, some other instruments like Mandolin in Labs, I would like to see a Core with MPE to do more articulations or a Motions type product, but not restricted to strings, what do you think?

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, I agree with you on CORE to PRO. It will be best utilized by those that are wanting to blend multiple libraries, or professionals that will be bussing out stems for pro level mixers to work with. I think for the "what else do you need" it will all depend on what kind of music you are making of course. For trying to Mockup classical and 90% of film score styles I agree, a choir some mandolin and maybe ethnic instruments and a jew harp ;) I see wanting a motions type functionality, but wondering if that doesn't "clutter" the usability of the instrument?

@phoenixrising4995 Жыл бұрын

@@SampleLibraryReviews Piano would be nice in the library. Choirs samples are crap for the most part.

@simonhusseymusic 4 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic review! Been holding off from Core as not sure if it would run on in 2016 Dual core 2.6ghz i5 8 gb ram MacBook Pro. Maybe the purge factor would help now? East West’s Hollywood Orchestra is less resource heavy and a consideration. Thank you for your detailed analysis.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Simon. I am very pleased the video was helpful for you. Purge will be very helpful

@dougslawin4725 3 жыл бұрын

This is are really helpful review. I would love to get your insights on Albion One. Thank you.

@thekeycrafter8800 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information! Did you ever make that Ensemble Libraries video?

@robduff 3 жыл бұрын

A very helpful and informative video, thank you.

@dyonight Жыл бұрын

Hi! Have you made a "favorite ensemble video" as you suggested? I can't find it on your channel... Thanks!

@jamisonmichel 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful video, thank you. I definitely do want to upgrade from Discover, but I'm still not sure if Core is right, or if there is another orchestra library that may be more useful. My aims are to make film music and trailers.

@marilynwarrant1173 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your excellent video. Question: at 11:20 you demonstrate string tones. Both the Discover and Core exhibit a crescendo in volume. How does one eliminate that for a steady-volume string sound? I have the Discover program. Changing the profile seems to make no difference. Thank you

@Yuushiboy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information! I have used discovery a bit and was making a symphonic peace out of it. Im a total noob when it comes to orchestras and is more into making epic cinematic music like Thomas Bergersen (I know I wont be as good) and blend organic with synth ect. I have also looked at spitfires Albion one that seems to be more in the direction Im looking for but so hard to decide.

@AntonioTonyNewtonMusic 3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever used Discover as a additional tonal layer with Core? if so what are the benefits from your perspective? Thank you so much!

@eggbass 3 жыл бұрын

So, you would load one instance per instrument/technique then purge all of the rest?

@markbutcher4100 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. For me the biggest question is will I need to upgrade all my hardware to use core. I don’t like discover. I use logics brass and woodwinds which can sound good with some fiddling and the articulations and velocity are easy to work on a laptop with minimal tracks. For strings I use spitfire epic strings which sound great and cost £29. It all runs perfectly on a 2016 12in MacBook

@CraigRodmellMusic Жыл бұрын

That's a relevant point. A couple of years ago I bought an ex-gaming computer to use as my main Music computer. Apart from issues caused by the dodgy version of Windows that it had when I got it, the main point was getting it up to spec to run Core. To that effect, I added 16GB ram to the 8GB it had originally, making 24GB total. This proved to be a very wise move. I wouldn't even dream of trying to run Core with only 8GB of ram.

@petertremblay3725 Жыл бұрын

If you use reaper you can make really good legatos!

@WycliffStudios 3 жыл бұрын

Spitfire has earned my respect. Once I make some bucks from KZfaq I'll upgrade to the pro version of Spitfire

@rallypally 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you!

@SampleLibraryReviews 2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Ralston

@henrikpetersson3463 Жыл бұрын

The fact that you still only get one mix with core is kinda a dealbreaker for me because the mix is so wet. I wish that they had either gone with a dryer mix or included two mixes. And professional is a bit too hefty both in size and price.

@joshhanson9321 3 жыл бұрын

I'm curious what those favorite ensemble libraries are. That Spitfire Bernard Hermann library sounds sooo good. Would that one fall under the category?

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Josh, yes actually it does :) I love BH!

@PkmnVGMRestore 4 ай бұрын

Don do you know if you still get a discount when upgrading to core?

@dafingaz 4 жыл бұрын

The free version is awesome. I’m hoping they bring it over to iOS as an AUV3 app. 🙏🏾

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man! that would be incredible

@dafingaz 4 жыл бұрын

Sample Library Review yeah. That would be great!

@DennisCaunce 4 жыл бұрын

I updated to Core. Between this library and my EastWest subscription, I think I'm covered.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Thanks for the sharing your experience Dennis

@joshrainbow-IceTenor 2 жыл бұрын

Good morning. Amazing video. I am an opera singer and worked all my life on stage working with orchestra. I recently feel the love to compose using orchestra - short pieces, meditation ect. I use an Apollo x4 and work in UAD Luna. My Imac isn't that powerful and get into cpu problems using the UAD instruments. It is an 8 Ram 2013 model. What would you advice on specs of a new Imac. I only know pop musicians recording some guitars and drums ect and say 16G is enough recording everything - However, spitfire may or may not agree with them :-) I've been looking at the new 24 inch Imac 16G with 1 terra M1 - would that be enough? Thanks in advance

@TheZombinator1 Жыл бұрын

Can you open multiple instruments in the same spitfire instance?

@gabrielheiser 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dinomelotti3612 Жыл бұрын

Grazie mille , tutto questo é molto bello.

@calvingudu9237 Жыл бұрын

Will I be able to use core I’m Mac mini M1 with 16 gig ram?

@ahmetbaykara.mp3 3 жыл бұрын

Great review 🤩🙏🏻 But I want to tell somethings about this library. At 8:43 when you demo the oboe legato patch, especially on G and D keys there is no Round Robin. I know RR work on repeating the same keys like staccato or repeating legato notes one after another, but why It’s not work in legato when the same keys come often in a melody or phrase. It's annoying to hear always the same samples when playing slow arpeggios or slow tremolos in a legato mode they sound like a car horn :( I know the sampling technology and recording are very very hard to make these products but we are in 2020 and why It's not possible, why.. Maybe in Native Instruments Kontakt, there are limitations to do that but Spitfire uses their own engine to make the BBC library. I've been following Symphony Orchestra VST's since 2000 and I don't see any big technology rises in these 20 years like my English :) Cheers...

@nandoflorestan 3 жыл бұрын

Libraries that have legato without machine gun effect include Sample Modeling and Aaron Venture's Infinite series. And one patch from Afflatus. Oh and LASS but that sounds awful because the change in timbre is excessive when you enable the legato round robin of only 2.

@gautiersliwa 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this very interesting video! I always hesitate between the bbc orchestra (rather the professional version) and the Spitfire Studio Orchestra for scoring, do you have a preference? And before the sales end, do you have a single spitfire library to recommend in general?

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Always pleased when the videos are helpful and useful Gautier. My personal favorites and ones that I use the most are Spitfire Chamber Strings kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7ale6eLxJjOcmg.html , British Drama Toolkit kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frJiY7WhpqnYpHU.html and Bernard Herrmann Composer Toolkit kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZt8iLKex7O5mas.html Thanks for the question

@thedolorpolar 4 жыл бұрын

I am hesitating too between bbc core and the studio orchestra, hopefully I can decide on Black Friday which one I will buy, as I’m looking for long term durability

@gautiersliwa 4 жыл бұрын

@@thedolorpolar I ask myself exactly the same question!

@tristaneponville 4 жыл бұрын

@@gautiersliwa @Amaya Music Hey guys. I own the studio orchestra (not pro) and I've just purchased BBC Core after a long hesitation. I guess the main aspects to take into account are time and flexibility; although I am yet to really try BBC. With BBC, you can produce orchestral music quickly without having to worry too much about mixing. It seems to be a greater learning tool if you want to experiment and practice with the orchestral sound palette. Studio Orchestra sounds great and is very flexible. You can make it sound big or intimate and the list of articulations is amazing (you even have things like perfect fourth trills with strings) Beware if you intend to use keyswitches, because not everything is on the same patch ! If your aim is not so much the process of making the sounds (the learning side) but definitely just the end result, whether orchestral or integrated to another genre, you can certainly mold the studio sounds however you want. Do also consider that the studio orchestra contains FX patches, something really important for credibility. Both have upgrades that are bit unreasonable in size, although the Studio strings upgrade does offer many divisi options, which you don't get with BBC. That's what I can say for now. Studio Orchestra I'd say is more flexible but requires much more time (you also don't get the percussion section). I've decided to really dive deep into learning the orchestra, and with the recent update of Studio One making keyswitches easy to use, I've built a quick and easy to use template for BBC with one patch of each instrument. I believe it amounts to 9GB+ (and takes some time to load). Don't hesitate if you have questions ! ;)

@gautiersliwa 4 жыл бұрын

@@tristaneponville thank you very much for your opinion! there are only a few hours left but now i hesitate x) (i can buy the bbc whenever i want with the edu discount but not the studio)

@mrdali67 3 жыл бұрын

Is it me or do the string sections have enourmous ammont of background noise to them. I first noticed this in NI’s basic string ensembles, but I have noticed that the Spitfire sounds much to my regret also sounds like they are accomplished by a waterfall

@jeanchindeko5477 3 жыл бұрын

Yes PLEASE

@CatHarington 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I use the discovery version. I don't like the horns on higher notes so much. Is it different in core?

@cinemystics 4 жыл бұрын

Hi there good reviews here. I am interested in 50s and early 60s string/orchestral libraries... any recommendations?

@HenricWallmark 3 жыл бұрын

Second this!

@wolfie8748 3 жыл бұрын

Did they fixed the bad legatos and spiccatos ?

@pjdahmen 4 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@ehtaabbundhoo384 3 жыл бұрын

Owning Abbey Road one and bbc orchestra discovery. Is it worthy to upgrade to core? How much will I benefit more?

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

As a general answer: If your need more details in your orchestration you will get so much more realism out of Cores round robins and dynamic layers. Thanks Ehtaab

@tjaruspex2116 3 жыл бұрын

The strings in DISCOVER have an exceptionally irritating volume inconsistency when I assign them to a MIDI file created from a music notation program. There is frequently a decided volume drop from one note to the next. However, this is only in the strings, not the other instruments. Is there anything that can be done about this highly annoying affectation, or is it just a fault of the program?

@kiwi3776 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't run into that issue, but it might be worth double checking to make sure your velocities are fairly consistent for the notes in your MIDI track. It can make a big difference between notes, depending on the library.

@da5idnz 4 жыл бұрын

I got Discover for free and I am grateful to Spitfire for making it free but there's this thing where you discover when it hasn't got legato etc and when you hear how good Core can sound that you get disappointed slightly. It's the want to play with and be able to make something beautiful, that sounds like a real orchestra, but not _quite_ getting there.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts da5idnz

@CraigRodmellMusic Жыл бұрын

My thoughts are that that is the general idea: it's an advertisement for the Spitfire product. That said, it's a GOOD advertisement, and one that is actually USEFUL to people. I got Discover, knowing what it was, and what it's inadquacies were. And yes, for what I really wanted to do, Discover was inadequate. However it did enable me to "dip my toes in the water", and pointed me in the direction of what Core could do. I now have Core, and am learning to use it properly. A purchase I have not regretted. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that Core is ideal for people like myself who are hobbyists, who do not have access to a real orchestra, and cannot justify the expense of either the Pro edition or the hardware to run it. Kudos to Spitfire for recognising that market and making a suitable product.

@charliemcgrain 9 ай бұрын

Totally disagree. Ensemble patches are not bad for sketching out ideas, but once you play in the properly arranged layers of sections you end up with something you can actually deliver, as an orchestra, out of the box. Ensembles are convenient and have their place in hybrid compositions, but if you want to work with "orchestra" composition then you want the sections separate. And, it is not difficult at all.

@gingataff 3 жыл бұрын

Core is 40% off right now and an extra discount for owners of Discover.

@PascalNormand 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t see any mention about the extra discount for Discover owners. Are you sure of that? How do you get it? I just saw the 40% offer for their spring sale

@gingataff 3 жыл бұрын

@@PascalNormand they don’t say it but when you log in the price is lower, in my case 240

@minusyou1 4 жыл бұрын

I have an irresponsible amount of sample libraries and plugins. Orchestral libraries are starting to be like compressors (do we really need another one?) but price wise they are more for producers who are actually getting paid for their music. I'm not a fan of subscriptions for creative software but I feel we are in serious need of a top tier orchestral library that's regularly updating and improving that both the developer and user would benefit from a subscription model. In most orchestral library reviews you are paying top price for a small percentage of what the total library does better than others. There shouldn't be any "[insert feature here] is worth the price alone]" reviews. The whole thing should be worth the price.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Mike

@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 3 жыл бұрын

+1 Subscription +1 Comment +1 Social Media Share +3 ALL ALERTS ACTIVATED! PLEASE do cover the Ensemble library comparisons (if it hasn't been mentioned). I am new to this and would like to use orchestration for certain atypical goals. AND, please provide some orchestration tutorials if possible.

@sirasy 3 жыл бұрын

does anybody knows where can I download a free English Horn sample?

@VoidloniXaarii 4 жыл бұрын

Nice ballanced presentation

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

thanks Void

@vicentesaiz1670 3 жыл бұрын

Hey there! If you don't mind me asking: My modded Macbook Pro mid 2012 meets all the requirements for BBC SO Core; except for the fact that I have an intel 2,5 i5 and it requires 2,8. Will this make the program crash systematically or will I be able to use it?

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Hi vicente - I would ask Spitfire for details like that. Good luck

@vicentesaiz1670 3 жыл бұрын

@@SampleLibraryReviews Thank you!

@giovannialfano5979 3 жыл бұрын

What round robin means exactly? Thank you

@SampleLibraryReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Giovanni - in sampled instruments, round robins are when different recordings of the same not triggered one after the other. This ads realism to the playback as a player or section would never be able to produce the exact same sound again and again in the real world. Each note (same note repeated) would sound different. Thus triggering a different sample even though it is the same note

@salactro 2 жыл бұрын

why does BBC Discover not respond to keyboard velocity?

@CraigRodmellMusic Жыл бұрын

Huh? I had it for over a year before upgrading to Core. I never had any issue with it not responding to keyboard velocity.

@stoatystoat174 11 ай бұрын

May - da - vale 😸

@derbasti1586 3 жыл бұрын

does anyone else have trouble with mono compatibility on the BBC Orchestra plugin like I do? Makes it almost unusable for me

@joelremiel 3 жыл бұрын

Why is mono an issue?

@derbasti1586 3 жыл бұрын

@@joelremiel there are phase cancellations when i listen to tracks with that Plugin in Mono,no matter how i tweak the knobs

@joelremiel 3 жыл бұрын

@@derbasti1586 Gotcha.

@mache3984 3 жыл бұрын

I've found that Spitfire's instruments just sound weird to me.

@wailamchu6352 3 жыл бұрын

It depends, some sound nice, some sounds unusable

@jtwattsmusic 4 ай бұрын

"Con lingo?" 12:01

@benhughes2355 4 жыл бұрын

May - da - veil ! 😂

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that Ben 😅

@Rialas 3 жыл бұрын

Not far from Ab - i - ro- ud 😀

@boymatmat 3 жыл бұрын

its not free anymore ;(

@skelligringphotographyandw7012 Жыл бұрын

It's pronounced made-a-vale. 😂 Very interesting video but I was distracted by the background music. As a lifelong lecturer, I highly recommend only having your voice audible when you're speaking.

@paulmcgloin5966 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, you saved me hundreds of pounds lol

@BartekEVH 4 жыл бұрын

8Dio rulez forever!!!! :))) Regards.

@unrealone1 4 жыл бұрын

The Bright White background is off putting.

@SampleLibraryReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts unrealone1

@propianistUK 3 жыл бұрын

That. Fierce. Noise. Gate. On. Your. Vocal. Mic. Is. Very. Annoying. (Suggest just leaving the blanket of hiss would probably be less distracting overall.)

@hficheugjihfjfuehdj6802 3 жыл бұрын

"First time a full orchestral vst has been available" Nope, VSCO has been out for years.

@JazzyFuriousDestroyer 3 жыл бұрын

Is that free

@hficheugjihfjfuehdj6802 3 жыл бұрын

@@JazzyFuriousDestroyer Yes it is, and the time you wasted typing that comment could have been spent googling ;)

@JazzyFuriousDestroyer 3 жыл бұрын

@@hficheugjihfjfuehdj6802 is it as good tho

@hficheugjihfjfuehdj6802 3 жыл бұрын

@@JazzyFuriousDestroyer Nope, not really. The sounds are decent but they weren't trimmed as precisely as other free libraries. I wouldn't skip over it though, it's still a good value :)

@JazzyFuriousDestroyer 3 жыл бұрын

@@hficheugjihfjfuehdj6802 ok thanks