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Should You Use Windows 11 LTSC? Windows 11 Pro vs LTSC

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@AlexKowalski-ci6im
@AlexKowalski-ci6im 2 ай бұрын
In some aspects you also have to optimize the Windows 11 LTSC version TOO !!! It's not a boosted gaming version; it's still a Win11 version in every aspect, but without the bloat and without the permanent risk of all the other Win11 versions you have to deal with after every single update. I already have Win11 LTSC full version (no preview) installed on my PC, with a valid key. E.g. after the install I got some VisualC++ updates offered which I took for better and glitch free graphics performance. Win11 LTSC even has the usual Win11 Gaming Performance mod imbedded you can choose. Once more: Win11 LTSC is still Windows 11, not some gaming miracle version. You still have to optimize your system regarding performance, but with far less hassle around this subject like you have to deal with all other Windows 11 versions. And you'll always be save in the future after update cycles.
@Tiboo08
@Tiboo08 2 ай бұрын
you got to keep i n mind that windows 11 ltsc is a preview version so the comparison is inconsistent and the windows 11 pro will always have something new every couple weeks or so and it will revert many optimisation you do and with time the ltsc version will be most lightweight and the most stable version we will get from microsoft ever
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
you have a valid point, but if we change windows updates settings ( only receive security update using tools like winutil or wintoys) we acan avoid feature updates for 2 years... by that time the next update will be stable...yes windows 11 ltsc is still in preview i think i have mentioned that in the video too 🤣 and if you dont want to use windows features (also upcoming ones) at all, yes win11ltsc is better in terms of user experience, but performance i think it's gonna be the same...
@Samer_Design
@Samer_Design 2 ай бұрын
easy fix , dont use the update
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
yes, but keep the security updates on 😂
@djdonbentley2141
@djdonbentley2141 8 күн бұрын
I'm noticing Microsoft has implemented countermeasures that block some debloating methods from working properly. Mainly starting in later 23h2 versions and up to pre release 24h2 . Also , when you try using msmg toolkit it will block your ability to uncheck main items you want to remove. I like using memorys tool for the unattended xml file . It still does an excellent job debloating.
@TheNJK57
@TheNJK57 2 ай бұрын
Chris Titus Debloater supremacy
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
😂
@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei
@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei 2 ай бұрын
Windows 10 LTSC IoT supremacy. Lower latency, higher 1% lows, better mouse input lag, compatible with everything and no AI bs.
@Corteum
@Corteum Ай бұрын
You'll have to use more than just CT debloater to fix Win11
@kenrock2
@kenrock2 2 ай бұрын
use case of LTSC would be suitable for Point of Sale system, Banking ATM machine, or just for internet surfing only... I don't think it is recommended for gaming with high graphic intensive, or for multimedia editing usage like photoshop or Adobe Premier... they strip down all the directX features from version 11/12 to version 10 which is why the OS experience is running very poorly
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
great info
@crt4674
@crt4674 15 күн бұрын
@@kilObit Not true. Verify dxdiag.
@techwizard9699
@techwizard9699 2 ай бұрын
I use windows 10 LTSC to host my Jelly fin media server. It is a decent alternative to Linux in terms of stability and features while being less resource intensive than the mainline windows versions. Linux is still the gold standard for server os's though.
@CesarPeron
@CesarPeron 18 күн бұрын
Remember... Windows (10) Pro support ends in 2025, Windows (10) LTSC support ends in 2035
@Beauchant
@Beauchant 2 ай бұрын
Really useful comparison, thanks a lot. But can you show us all tricks that you used to optimize windows 11 and get better performance? Please don't skip nothing. It would be very helpful if you could make a video on that.
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
check the description
@Beauchant
@Beauchant 2 ай бұрын
@@kilObit Ok, thank you.
@GehMemories
@GehMemories 2 ай бұрын
How to get my processes down to 70? I did some tweaking and my processes still at 130. Any suggestions?
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
you probably have too many programs installed... more programs you install = services, you can turn them off but you need to identify them yourself
@Techwallss
@Techwallss 2 ай бұрын
more processes doesnt necessarily mean a bad thing
@djdonbentley2141
@djdonbentley2141 11 сағат бұрын
Use the xml method. Memorys tech tips channel has a custom Xml file that really does debloat Windows to where its just like ltsc . Process count then is about 70 to 88 .
@Corteum
@Corteum Ай бұрын
_"What is the problem with Windows 11? There is the system requirements... This thing is ridiculous. Idk why Microsoft is doing this..."_ Welll, in light of PkFail and secure boot issue, as well as recal and copilot... it seems like theyre doing it for "Big Data". They want your data... and theyre using multiple ways to get it.
@thatsit7
@thatsit7 2 ай бұрын
pros of lTSC... 1. just boot it and youre ready no need of optimization 2. no risk of bricking the system with unnecessary windows features updates. 3. main one - support for 10 yrs (iot enterprise version) cons...... 1. the liscence key is hard to get and expensive . thats all ,, you know ;)
@Jon717
@Jon717 2 ай бұрын
The product key is expensive and hard to buy, but it's easy to get a license for free.
@BarbieStrawberry
@BarbieStrawberry 2 ай бұрын
​@@Jon717Yeah!! 😂🤣
@thatsit7
@thatsit7 2 ай бұрын
you know ;)
@youzernejm
@youzernejm 2 ай бұрын
Windows uses GPU acceleration for some effects, I believe that's why you had a bad ux score for the ltsc. I've been using ctt accept for a long time on desktops (until I started using a card reader regularly and no matter what I did, services decided to remain off after the script). On laptops though, man... AMD one had windows 10 first, 11 later. Intel one had 11 from the start. After applying the tweaks, both laptops exhibited the same issue - wasting battery when off. Intel one wasn't as bad as AMD, which would go from 100 to 0 in about 2 weeks. And yes, I disabled active standby rubbish they've introduced with windows 10. I want my computer to remain off when I turn it off.
@Nicades
@Nicades 2 ай бұрын
microsoft store is available on ltsc?
@blakedmc1989RaveHD
@blakedmc1989RaveHD Ай бұрын
u have to manually install it
@JODmonn
@JODmonn 2 ай бұрын
Im currently working on the winutil tool for CTT. Hope people like my new GUI for this tool
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
cool... it's gonna be separate thing? gui
@bishnu__newar
@bishnu__newar 2 ай бұрын
hi brother, do you have an idea how to convert saved html files into pdf. i tried several method, they just turned web page into pdf without loading actual content. i have very important web page html file. when i open in browser, it opens with all the content, but while converting to pdf, i lost all the content and only text remains. do you have an idea
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
have you tried adobe acrobat
@shanedias3849
@shanedias3849 2 ай бұрын
please help me 🙏🙏🙏 i have core 2 duo , 4gb ram and gt 730 gpu...before i would use windows 10 pro and it was very laggy but recently i started dual booting with windows 7 for gaming and zorin os for regular usage .....now my only problem is that on windows 7 alot of online games has end of supporting for windows 7 and on zorin its also not playable due to anti cheat and some games dosent work well with proton or lutris .....now should i use windows 11 ltsc , atles os or tiny 11 for gaming ??
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
windows 11 is not gonna perform good on your system it's too old, but you can try making your own tiny11 and test it
@cineva0160
@cineva0160 2 ай бұрын
I recommend windows 10 ltsc 2019 it has a life span until 2029 and on your system will work fine.
@pantarei.
@pantarei. Ай бұрын
The main problem with Windows 11 is datamining and copilot.
@hanstonichance
@hanstonichance 2 ай бұрын
WHERE TO GET THAT WALLPAPER
@Hazardteam
@Hazardteam Ай бұрын
11:43 If you want to KNOW why, read the book "Bill Gates et la saga de Microsoft" (by Daniel Ichbiah) Short story: MS made special agreements with the computer hardware (sellers first, but after) developers and brands. And it was just the starting point. It's continued and improved, even until these days. Just think about that: Xbox runs MS os, you even can run windows on it (with tricks) 'cause Xbox basicaly a VERY (weak and) barebone AMD x86_64 PC. Actualy way weaker, than any cheapest laptops what you can buy anywhere now in the shops. But... The OS and the programs/games runs better and faster than on a gaming PC. The newly upcoming AAA letters as well. Just compare once an Xbox hardware inside to a modern gaming PC once... Xbox has an integrated APU with some ram, some ssd, bluetooth chips etc (nothing special but necessary) It's like a TOY compare to a normal PC, even compare to an older PC. So this "job" was and is artifical by MS. Because MS and the Computer Hardware manufacturers and developers living in symbiosis since ~40 years at least (and Xbox also uses windows kernel, just like the "normal" PC's)
@Piyush_Singh384
@Piyush_Singh384 2 ай бұрын
I think the whole point of system requirements win 11 pro is force users to buy a new pc after a few years !
@epic_journey.
@epic_journey. 2 ай бұрын
what if you optimize the LTSC version the same way you did with the pro edition kb!
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
it's opposite, someone corrected me in the comments, yes you can further optimize it but to make it perform better you have to add and update some thingis 🤣
@epic_journey.
@epic_journey. 2 ай бұрын
@@kilObit apply all the tweaks you with wintoys manually on the ltsc system(wintoys is a just bunch of system settings or commands just into one place, right!) and use chris titus's tool (which can also run on Windows 11 ltsc) to apply the recommended setting and see if ltsc performs better now
@shiro214okane
@shiro214okane Ай бұрын
you want stable windows? go LTSC. you want latest and greatest with some bugs and new features introduced, home/pro. want clean windows with long support? enterprise LTSC IoT
@TheNJK57
@TheNJK57 2 ай бұрын
So Debloated Windows 11 Pro is better than both Windows 11 LTSC and Windows 11 Pro
@JaatSaab108
@JaatSaab108 2 ай бұрын
No becoz in pro u have to update win every week & It Undo lot of twiks u do or optimisation u do In the longer run say 1 year ltsc will perform better than pro and it will take less space too ...
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
if you want the LTSC experience in pro, then change update settings to security updates only using winutil or wintoys,,, it wont install any feature updates for 2 years... for me yes Win11pro is better cuz my old keys will work and I actually want to receive feature updates cuz i make videos on them 😂... and yes if you make win11pro to receive only security updates it's better or similar to win11ltsc
@oliviarodrigo2025
@oliviarodrigo2025 2 ай бұрын
Last video the app is gitch my old pc 😢😂
@kilObit
@kilObit 2 ай бұрын
thats sad, whats your pc specs
@HAJOJE
@HAJOJE 2 ай бұрын
i dont want the LTSC any way. because i dont want to delete all my apps and get them again
@CesarPeron
@CesarPeron 18 күн бұрын
Windows LTSC is rock solid 💪💪
@blakedmc1989RaveHD
@blakedmc1989RaveHD Ай бұрын
i will still using LTSC IoT because even a optimized Pro overtime is not gunna stay optimized overtime and LTSC IoT will stay optimized and i will pirate tha license because tha last time i tried to buy a legitimate license, Microsoft would not lemme register it, yea no thanks, and i'm more about principal if buyin' ain't owning, priacy ain't stealing! (Microsoft Activation Script FTW) and no i do not want Copiolot or Recal and LTSC IoT doesn't have it but non IoT does and i already having a hard time tryin' to get my AverMedia C027 workin' on Windows 11 because if i can't find a solution, i'ma be stuck on Windows 10 LTSC IoT especially if AverMedia is refusing to offer Driver Support for any Windows newer than 10 for my AverMedia C027 and tha capture card would not work on Linux heck there's no Linux drivers for my AverMedia C027 😢 and no i am not willin' to go HDMI Conversion route for HDMI Only capture cards for my older consoles i'm capturing with my AverMedia C027 with currently
@aritgon9763
@aritgon9763 Ай бұрын
if you pirate the license(generally from MAS) you will face update issues. your system will get updates but for some authority reason it will not be able to install the updates. Think about that too. I am using w10 ltsc IoT from massgrave, the user experience is so good, but yeah, that update issue can be concerning
@blakedmc1989RaveHD
@blakedmc1989RaveHD Ай бұрын
@@aritgon9763 i've been able to install updates just fine with MAS
@elibely
@elibely 2 ай бұрын
will my pro key work?
@ellom8
@ellom8 Ай бұрын
LTSC and NTLite is gold
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