Just to have it organized, here's my process when I start the game with a GameCube controller: 1. Turn on the Switch 2. Open Mario Kart from the home screen, using the Joy-Cons, to disable doubled inputs - 14:49 3. Reset my GameCube controller for soft drifting (you don't need to be on the calibration menu) - 7:24 4. Enter a "worldwide" (me + 11 japanese players) 5. Lose Gamecube Controller FAQ: Do I have to be on the calibration screen when resetting? - No, the calibration screen is weird. In fact I recommend resetting after Mario Kart has been opened. Just hold slightly up on the left stick, hold X+Y+Start for a few seconds, press A to reconnect the controller, and you're done! It all takes 5 seconds. If you really want to see the exact inputs, you can open the calibration screen afterwards How much should I hold the left stick upwards when resetting? - A very little amount; around 1-2 degrees or 1 millimeter. Every controller is slightly different, so if this does not get you fast mini-turbo charge speeds as described in the video, then hold the stick a bit higher when resetting. Do I have to reset the controller every time I play? - Yes, I reset at the start of every session. You have to reset your controller if it disconnects, or if your Switch goes to sleep or powers off. It only takes 5 seconds to reset Do I have to connect a controller with a motion sensor, to disable doubled inputs, every time I play? - No. In my experience, I only need to do this if the Switch powers off Can you spam the D-Pad to shake trick? - I have not found a way to simulate a shake trick on a gamecube controller, even with the D-Pad. Can any gamecube controller do the notch reset? - I can only confirm that official Nintendo gamecube controllers work (even old ones work) I have a different question! - Leave a new comment (not a reply comment) on this video. I check this comment section frequently and will probably be able to help you!

4:32 “the game does not pause online” oh yeah? Tell that to my mom

I just love how you show an optimal technique working amazingly and then get mario karted anyway, comedic gold

Seeing you use motion controls all the time made me think you were just the GOAT. I was inspired me to start playing with motion controls all the time for motion gliders and got pretty decent at keeping my controller still during normal gameplay. But now I'm learning that IT'S ALL A LIE 😭😭😭

The people spamming "I'm using tilt controls!" were onto something

I had a project for one of my computer science classes where I had to make something with a raspberry Pi and a bunch of sensors. So of course, I built a controller for MK8D. I used PVC pipes to build a set of handlebars, an accelerometer to tell what angle the wheel was pointed at, a tilt sensor for a throttle, and buttons for everything else. Hooked everything up to mart1nro’s Joycontrol code, and bam. Best project I’ve ever done.

Just so you know, the "border" around the analog stick is called the "gate". Pro controllers have circle gates, gamecube controllers have octagonal gates (and most arcade-style fight sticks have square gates).

You can hear the joysticks clacking and the button clicks in like every intense vid so I've always known you used a GC controller. Those sounds are iconic to us who were 10 in the early-2000s 😂

This video has blown my mind. I have sometimes begrudgingly used my gamecube controller when family is around, hating the experience because I couldn't soft drift on it. But knowing WHY it doesn't soft drift, and how to actually deal with it, I never thought I'd have someone tell me this. Not only that but I never knew you could do that with the D pad to do motion glider... looks like I'll be using my gamecube controller from now on.

Thank you so much Shortcat. I've been watching MK8DX guides from English speaking content creators for so long, and you're one of the newer (to me) ones I've recently ran into. My VR on MK8DX online is around 50K so I've been an experienced player for years, but the main question I was always asking is what is the best controller for soft drifting, because as far as time trialing goes for precise mini-turbos and other strats, there's no technique more important in the game than soft drifting and neutral drifting.... appreciate this so much. Still learning something new even after the DLC is over!

You know it’s that one 9 dollar controller from Ali express Update: I tried to play with a GameCube controller and I have a complaint. The analog triggers are really annoying. There were sometimes where I didn’t use the item I wanted to use because it didn’t press all the was down. That’s it

You are the best Mario kart content creator, bar none. I’ve seen comprehensive guides and very long detailed videos on this game before, but you do it in such an accessible way I just enjoy watching the videos. Been watching for half a year now and honestly get excited every time you upload. Keep up the good work ❤

I used to think Melee was a really unique game because of all the crazy exploits and tech people have found over the years. But videos like these make me think that every game is just as janky, and it just takes a dedicated community over a long period of time to discover it all :D

I saw a video on game cube motion glider yesterday. I was like: "shortcat does this, why hasn't he made a video about this yet?"

I never knew you used a gc controller, I always thought you were so good that motion controls just didn’t effect you

I still use Joy-Cons and while I am good at soft-drifting, it dire situations it can get messy or even in time trials. So, having this extra bit of consistency with the GC controller is great. Can only advocate for this reason alone to use the GC controller, tbh. no matter the skill level. You want consistency every time.

I use a (officially licensed) third-party controller to play Mario Kart, one that lacks a motion sensor. I'd heard a little about input doubling before, but this is crazy. I wonder if I've ever used doubled inputs accidentally? Anyway, thank you for finally talking in-depth about your controller usage! After I initially heard you use a GameCube controller for Mario Kart, I took a look at it and have been considering buying one to play. Thanks for providing me with more info :)

I am by no means part of the MK community; I just watch a few content creators and cry about the fact that I don't have my switch with me (I will soon, just also need to cry about spending $60 as a broke college student). But I absolutely love seeing the references and support of other creators who also play the game. I had watched one of Rod's recent videos and he had made a reference to your specific content, then came here just to see you also using a clip from him. Great stuff. Keep it up!

great vid. I have used both pro controller and GC when playing mariokart. the only thing that keeps me on pro controller is that sometimes on a GC controller (particularly older ones), because the triggers are analog, when trailing an item, the game will just throw the item when you didnt release the trigger. in extreme cases, the controller can flicker between the switch considering the trigger to be pressed or not, and it will spam all your items away. its a rare occurrence, but this has even happened to Ludwig on stream when playing MK8DX, and you can see his confusion on his face when it happens.

This is one of the coolest in depth advanced tech looks into mario kart 8 dx that I have seen on KZfaq. All of this is so cool, and I would've never thought of any of it. Thanks for sharing!

Best mario kart KZfaqr. I have learnt so much from your channel and it is still super entertaining. Everything you say is informative which I love!

First off I REALLY enjoyed your way of explaining why motion glider is faster. Don't know if you've ever had a moment when watching a video where you go "Shit that's how *I* should have explained that" but that was it for me lol As far as which controller is "better" I think it depends 1. If you're a new-ish player it might be a bit complicated to set up a gamecube controller properly, but once you do it's clearly easier to learn the tech on gamecube than it is on switch 2. At top level I do actually think the pro controller is still better though, and that's because button remapping + --> L and Y --> R makes doing motion glider pretty straightforward with like 5 minutes of practice. I also think a lot of people will find it pretty awkward to take their right hand off the controller mid race. Not saying that this makes gamecube bad, just that I don't think it actually provides much of a clear advantage. And being forced to give up shake tricking really does hurt in enough circumstances that I'd say it's a pretty clear disadvantage 3. However I've gotta say this is an absolute GAME CHANGER for speedruns, because in a speedrun, pausing actually pauses the game unlike online where it keeps going, and so all of the benefits of motion controls are more than cancelled out by how long you spend in the pause menu. HOWEVER the fact that gamecube has no motion sensor means that we can play with motion controls on all the time without it screwing up our lines. This means that gamecube has actually unlocked motion controls for speedrunning, which is AMAZING, and almost certainly worth being forced to give up the ability to shake trick

having played this game with a gamecube controller before, i was almost certain the thumbnail was a joke. the ability to motion glider with the dpad and your clever soft drifting hack really change the game-i have to try this!

Wow! I NEVER knew about this advanced gliding technique! I thumbed up this video because of how thorough it was in explaining it, along with how my favorite controller of all time has yet ONE MORE use, further cementing its status! Good job in explaining! 👍🏻 I wonder how this would work with the Nyxi Wizard... 🤔

I swear you actually have the potential to be one of the best MK8dx players with all the knowledge you have

Just FYI (admittedly something I imagine you've considered) for the soft drifting, a lot of high level Smash Melee players just have their controller filed down with special notches to hit certain angles consistently (firefox angles for recovery, wavedash angles for maximum distance). Obviously, this requires controller modding, which isn't for everyone, but I imagine a similar approach could be used for soft drifting to not need to reset the controller. Probably not super necessary, but figure it can be an option worth considering too?

This is an awesome video. I wasn't wanting to actually watch the video, i just wanted to see what you were talking about, but then i watched the whole thing. Great stuff

Whenever I play Mario kart I accidentally used to do soft drifts all the time and I was confused this vid helped

I use a pro controller with a custom faceplate that has gamecube notches for soft drifting. This allows me to soft drift easier. I would like to always have motion gliding, but from my experience online, it doesn't make me win any more or less, so I enjoy the motion tricking for stability in my own performance :) If players are better than me they will still find ways to smack me.

Been using GameCube since the beginning actually about 4k hours on it lol, nice vid

I wanted to know how to do that yesterday and seeing you make a video on it is a HUGE coincidence :P

I originally played mario kart wii, and once i discovered the Gamecube controller it was my go-to everytime I played. It was cool to see it used for Mario Kart 8 and it sounds like it would be a lot of fun to revisit that controller in the current entry. Thanks for the great video!

did you get tired of cubing

My brother and I decided to buy GameCube controllers after watching this video. They finally arrived today and we love them! This video was so helpful and informative. Thank you so much!! 😊 Can’t wait to start wrecking people online lol

Mad respect for using the orange GameCube controller in the thumbnail. That thing is nostalgic lol

Don't even know how I found this channel. But I've watched a ton of your videos and they inspired me to play a bit online for the first time tonight. Got to 1500 and had a lot of fun. I will definitely never be at the point where I need to worry about what kind of controller I'm using but you're such a good presenter I'm watching anyway lol.

One nuance I would add that wasn’t mentioned in the vid is that you cannot re-map inputs on the GCN to turn on smart steering more easily. Smart steering is pretty useful on stages like Ribbon Road or DK Summit.

Ok this is good, I bought a Gamecube Controller a while back but I saw a Pro Controller and I thought my GameCube Controller wouldn't be good with 8 Deluxe. So thank you ShortCat for calming my nerves

In case you all are wondering, if you REALLY like your controllers with rumble, you can plug the grey plug into the Nintendo Switch as well as enable rumble for system settings and the game you are playing.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Mario kart pros in Japan are using pro controller because of mtja(mini turbo jump action). They charge a mini turbo in a trickable region and release the mt and trick immediately after. I think this is easier to do with shake tricking because the drift button is the same as the trick button and you can’t really press it that quick after a releasing a mt.

This is really useful information. The way you go about explaining mechanics is very engaging and it's really accessible for people trying to get into competitive Mario kart. Thank you for all of the effort you put into your videos 👍

Keep up the work shortcat

I love seeing people put so much effort into optimizing techniques for a game that is known for punishing you very hard for being good or sometimes no reason at all.

Ohh my gosh my mind was about to explode with tremendous information jaja, I've heard about motion glider but I've never tried before for sure, sounds a little tough, tricky and rough, majority of my time was playing Smash Bros Ultimate with GC, but I couldn't have imaginated how complex mario kart is, I'll take into account what you said in this video, Thank you ShortCat for your research Nice video dude!

JPerm, that you?

as a pro controller player, i might consider switching. but what’s funny is that at 14:30 when he was explaining why motion glider is sooooooo good, HE LITERALLY MISSED A TRICK LOL but either way, i consider your opinion very accurate because when i tune into a jpg stream (jpg uses a pro controller) almost every time i watch his streams, he messes up a motion glider and regrets it. obviously jpg is legions better than you, (no offense but he’s literally top 300 in the world) he still messes up because of his playing style so i find this video extremely helpful. PS: IM YOUR #1 FAN AND NOBODY WILL PROVE OTHERWISE

thank you for validating me I've always preferred the gamecube controller comfort wise for mario kart

And here I thought I'd never get to use motion glider because I main GC Controller. Incredibly helpful video.

I'm old. I was 6 when the Gamecube came out. I will always default back to it if I can when it comes to controller use.

No way this is what Jperm has been doing all this time

Phob GameCube controllers are a good third party option. Better than the Nintendo ones actually. It's an open source hardware project originally made for the Super Smash Bros Melee community to be able to produce high quality GameCube controllers while addressing the official GameCube controller's shortcomings. That said, they are expensive if you don't make them yourself but it's worth the price imo.

I was so curious about your motion inputs im glad you made this, it's also super useful

I was like “how does he always play with motion controls on?”

You did mention that Smash players prefer GC controllers, but could Melee-style controller mods help with Mario Kart? They use custom notches to get consistent max wavedashes or shield drops, this could make softdrift consistent without having to mess with stick calibration every time you plug a controller in.

something to note, everything that he said in terms of motion controls for the game cube controller is also true for a wired pro controller. I don't believe Nintendo officially sells those, but there are plenty of third-party sales.

Crazy how much tech skill mariokart actually has!

Have you considered getting a custom gamecube controller with custom notches? That way you dont need to change the stick's calibration

I tilt on a third-party pro controller because it feels nicer in my hands compared to two joy-cons and because tilt is funny

Omg I was wondering if you had posted a video today, I check KZfaq and 53s ago, new video! Thx for your work, J Cat

thank you jpe- i mean shortcat i will def use this when I play Mario kart next!

5:40 Actually, you CAN disable motion glider after you finished the race. You had a few seconds (about 1 or 2?) to open the settings menu and disable it when you finished the race. Or you can click Y in the course selection to go back to the vehicle selection and disable it there (But of course, it's not optimal)

Day 2 of asking Shortcat to play online Battle Mode in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

I love that you featured Bayesic in this video. He's a great guy who I know outside of youtube

I'm a Smash player who owns 4 original release GCCs and I bought two pro controllers just for Mario Kart because I wanted to motion control and thought pro was the only option. This video has upset my greatly, but I'm glad to know I wasted $120 😅

There is a video on this called “hyper gliding in Mario kart 8 deluxe”

Me using an xbox controller 🗿🍷

I wonder how many gamecube controllers will be sold because of this video

Shortcat your a legend for this I never knew you used a GameCube controller that way you always motion glide 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Video idea: face reveal at 300k

That's some insane p2w, kinda surprised I haven't heard about this more. Hitbox was mega controversial in the FGC until devs started putting in counter measures to make it fair but I've never even heard about his and MK8D isn't even some underground game either

I do love using my DualSense controller for Mario Kart. It gets me the most consistent results. With the techniques I larned from your videos I'm almost at 10k VR. Have a good one.

My races are going to be dramatically improved now that I can consistently get tricks by shaking my pro controller like it's a wii remote. Brings me back to when pow blocks struck fear in us kids

There is also PowerA's weird Gamecube controller that actually has motion controls and digital buttons because it is basically just a Switch Pro controller in a Gamecube shell.

Amazingly detailed video! This is, hands down, some of the best MK8DX content out there. Can't wait for the pro guide!

Shake tricking is just too important to me. It's not just about being able to get consistent tricks on difficult tricking platforms (although that is especially helpful in wavy sections). It's also useful for consistently tricking as early as possible. As a side note, I remap my L button to X when playing with the pro controller because I always felt like it was really awkward to press X every time you need to look back. I use Y instead of A for accelerate because it's way easier to hold down Y + B than it is to hold down A + B for brake drifting, and it is completely impossible to hold down Y + B + X to brake drift and look in the mirror at the same time unless you remap to L. Even if you aren't break drifting, Y + X is a really awkward combo of buttons to hold down. I really recommend it, it's super nice!

I just found out about your Mario kart channel. This is really cool, and I came from your cubing channel, and I was very surprised!

I had no idea there was this much tech with gc controllers

the mayflash adapter actually introduces a little bit of input lag, the smash community uses the lossless adapter by arta or the gc pocket adapter by handheld legend, which work great

FINALLY I find someone besides myself who uses a GC controller (I don’t motion glide though, I just like the feel a lot more)

5:05 it seems part of mario kart wii's Dpad tricks (you'd do ramp tricks by pressing a direction on the dpad) for the gamecube controller and classic controller are kind of reappearing. 17:00 the grey plug is extra power for rumble, i'd say plug it in if you like having rumble.

This video convinced me to invest in my own GameCube controller for my switch! The game cube was one of the first consoles I ever played I probably haven’t touched one in 15 years!

It's always a good day when Jperm uploads, no matter what channel

This takes me way frickin back to practicing wave dashing on melee hahahaha 8:57 this is smart af thanks

I was always so confused what the clicking was in the vids. Thanks for clearing that up! :)

4:02 I use motion controls 100% of the time, it just feels much easier and (almost) never messes me up. Though it’s likely just because my brain is used to it idk

Me who plays with pro controller and motion on anyways: "I don't have such weaknesses."

I have modified the triggers on one of my GCN controllers so they will act more like a digital trigger than the stock analog ones. It’s also worth noting that GCN controllers can be used with MKWii, MKSC (with Game Boy Player on the GCN), and MKDD, so if you play either of those games as well, you’ll be better off with a trigger modification. I just use trigger plugs, but if you want a true digital trigger in your GCN controller, you will need it modded on a hardware level. Sites like Battle Beaver offer these services, but they don’t come cheap. Trigger plugs and the appropriate screwdrivers are $20 at most, while specialized GCN controllers can cost $200+. Last thing, you don’t need a GCN controller to achieve motionless motion gliding. You can also just get a wired third party controller from Power A or PDP, and the results will be the same as using a GCN controller. Heck, it maybe even better to use a USB controller over GCN because the adapter does add latency. That, and some of these third party wired controllers may have assignable buttons on the bottom of the controller. Most of them have two if they have them, but I know the Fusion by Power A has four. That means if you have a Fusion controller, you can map all of the inputs of the d pad on the bottom buttons, and you don't have to do crazy shenanigans with your hands.

Been waiting for your upload! It didn't disappoint! And I admire how you found all this tricks with the controller lol. Must be lots of theorizing and experimenting. Appreciate you sharing it too xD.

This video was really interesting. I cannot wait for the advanced techs guide!!! Love the content Shortcat ♥️ keep it up!

The power a gamecube controller has the home button, plus, minus, and screenshot buttons along with motion sensor. It is an amazing controller and fixes all of the downsides of the original gamecube controller.

I want to thank Shortcat because I came back to this game thanks to these videos. Only problem: I play it on the WII U

OH MY GOD! Shortcat's Nintendo Switch Revealed

i love how when using a game cube controller breaking something to be better is a must

Always wondered what your setup was, and wanted more info on controllers as well. Looking forward to the advanced guide!!

I like this new way of making videos using a more analytical view of the game. Also great video, didn't notice people were this sweaty to use a 10 year old smash controller🤣🤣🤣

Do I own a switch? No. do I play Mario kart? No. Did I watch the entire video anyway? Yeah, sure why not.

I love the GameCube controller. I'm a somewhat decent Tony Hawk player, and I find it very good there as well. Having stunt buttons in a ring around jump is fantastic.

There is a GameCube styled Switch pro controller that might be worth testing as it lacks motion control and is treated by the switch as a pro controller, will give mine a look tomorrow

As someone who comes from smash and is more comfortable with the gamecube controller anyways this is very helpful! Thank you for sharing things like this

Oh my god, soft drifting was the secret sauce I needed to start shaking, thank you Cat 🙏