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Shubunkin Goldfish vs Koi. Which one is better? Which one is right for me?

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Stubbs Aquatics

Stubbs Aquatics

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In this episode I discuss the age old question which is better koi or shubunkin goldfish... and what better person to answer than one who has both!!!
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@TarasTankFriends
@TarasTankFriends Жыл бұрын
Great and informative video, Chris! I like them both, but I think with all the requirements for koi, if I had to pick one, it would be shubunkins-- particularly your line, those are SO pretty! I read somewhere that the longest living domestic fish was a 300 yr old koi, don't know if that's true though, lol. Hope you have a great weekend! 🙂👍
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tara, by the way, happy birthday! Hope you had a great day. I really appreciate the compliment. Yeah I've heard that there's some fish that has lived at 300 years but they haven't been able to prove that but you never know. 100 years I've heard of but like I said the average can live up to both 30 35 years. Most live to 15 to 20 and that's pretty long
@TarasTankFriends
@TarasTankFriends Жыл бұрын
@@stubbsaquatics6080 thank you for the birthday wishes! It would be difficult (if not impossible?) to prove a fish lived that long, but it's a fun story I suppose 🙂. 30-35 is still quite a lifespan!
@sweetkoiyo
@sweetkoiyo Жыл бұрын
Great video. I too think they're both beautiful. I think the Shubunkin are far easier to take care of, plus their color patterns, and varieties are far more random. They sure are not cookie cutter fish, like most Koi are.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching. They really are easier to look after. They are beautiful Hardy. I wish they lived as long as koi. And even got as big as them. That would be nice or I wish Kauai were as hardy as them.. be nice to have the best of both
@shubunkin.goldfishtank
@shubunkin.goldfishtank Жыл бұрын
Both fish are beautiful but it all depends if you can meet the needs of the fish, for any size pond shubunkin will do fine but for koi you need to have a lot bigger pond for them, nice information Chris!
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg. Yeah good points. They both have their good pros to them I just wish that the goldfish lived as long as koi and that the koi where is Hardy as a goldfish
@shubunkin.goldfishtank
@shubunkin.goldfishtank Жыл бұрын
@@stubbsaquatics6080 That would be nice.
@westbromkoi
@westbromkoi Жыл бұрын
Good discussion Chris, both have they’re good points and bad points. Like you said beauty is in the eye of the beholder 👍🏼
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much my friend. You're right, beauty is in the eye. Beholder and koi are living jewels I just wish there was Hardy as goldfish
@alexjoanvlog6061
@alexjoanvlog6061 Жыл бұрын
Gusto ko sila lahat nakakarelaxay nakaka aliw panuorin.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. All the best
@thecraftingnook6495
@thecraftingnook6495 Жыл бұрын
You have such a beautiful pond and such gorgeous gorgeous fish. Our shubunkin and goldfish are gorgeous and so full of character😊
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Ah thanks so very much. I really appreciate that. I'm glad you like them too and I would love to see more of yours
@DeesYard
@DeesYard Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! I hands down prefer Shubunkin goldfish!! I love the look of them and all their amazing designs/colors. My husband likes koi but we don't want to pay a bunch of $ for koi so we get them when they are super young and they all change their colors on us leaving us with something we weren't expecting. Plus, our koi are always reproducing, so we will have to cut down on their population soon. Oh, not to mention they are aggressive when we feed the fish, and it always looks like they bully our goldfish. I love them both but prefer goldfish.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Depending on the type of koi, they certainly do lose their colors. Several mine have lost colors and that's typical with certain breeds and with age apparently it's like hair lol I really like both. I just wish koi where is Hardy as goldfish.. and I wish the goldfish were as friendly and grew as big as the koi. Thanks again my friend
@DeesYard
@DeesYard Жыл бұрын
@@stubbsaquatics6080 😁
@hamaarahof5712
@hamaarahof5712 Жыл бұрын
Hands down love the Shubunkins. My absolute favourite of any goldfish type. We also have a Koi now, regular goldfish, but recently added the Bristol Shubunkin. They grow so fast and look just beautiful. But it is good that people like different things, lol. Greetings from Alberta 🌸
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Hi my fellow 🇨🇦.. My daughter lives in Alberta and my wife is currently visiting her. I have looked around for years to find a true Bristol. My best shubbies I will bring inside in the fall . Do you keep your koi outside during the winter.. I know how cold it gets there.. I spent a month (Feb) in Edmonton. Nice to meet a fellow koi and shubunkin enthusiasts from Canada. I see you like dogs as well Thanks again for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it
@hamaarahof5712
@hamaarahof5712 Жыл бұрын
@stubbsaquatics6080 Hey, I had emailed when we started this journey and appreciate all that we have learned from you. We are north of Edmonton. So far they are all coming in. But there is a plan for a much deeper, bigger pond, so we will see. Found those baby Bristol Shubunkin by chance at Big Al's. We do not expect show quality, but they are healthy and doing well. We don't have a breeder out this way. Best of luck with your fish. And yes, the dogs are a big part of our life's 🙂
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
@@hamaarahof5712 sorry Now I remember you. My apologies. Big Al's eh.. I picked up a couple there about 11 years ago. They were not bristol... I don't have them anymore but they did produce offspring that I now have .
@hamaarahof5712
@hamaarahof5712 Жыл бұрын
@stubbsaquatics6080 Well don't imagine they are high quality. But even if they are regular Shubunkin, it's okay. But one day will be nice to have one or two really nice Bristol once as well, lol. In the meantime, will just enjoy what is here😀 I love peaceful fish and have less and less cichlids for that reason. They are hand tame (well sort of) and no aggression or stress from them. Such a pleasure to watch!
@fishlaw1
@fishlaw1 Жыл бұрын
I like them both, but I favor Koi. Thanks for sharing Chris and happy wet pet keeping🙂 LIKE#5
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I like them both. Corey have a lot of good points to them. They are living jewels that's for sure and they interact with you so well. I just wish they was Hardy as shubunkin goldfish
@pelhamsaquatics
@pelhamsaquatics Жыл бұрын
Both are beautiful, I wonder , just for information, if you lived in a warmer climate, say southern United States ,would you keep barbs in outside ponds like this chris? I could just imagine some tinfoils in a nice outdoor pond, I bet the sun 🌞 would reflect off them. Great video pal 🙂👍🏻
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I probably keep some kind of Barb either an Odessa or an Aurulius.... And it might even try keeping African cichlids. But they too many plants so I don't know. But it's fun to dream
@hanscarr7515
@hanscarr7515 19 күн бұрын
Heyo, I've watched many of your videos and even used some to help refine my own pond, great information, and while my pond is too small to house koi, I have found my Common, comets, and shubunkins to be very interactive with myself, partner and guests. They have distinct characters and some are shy with unfamiliar people but all come to rub against my hand weather it's feeding time or not. I suppose Koi may go beyond that sort of behavior but I've been surprised and impressed with my fish.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 18 күн бұрын
Hey Hans. First of all, I'd like to say thank you for watching and for commenting, and I'm glad some of my videos have helped you transform your pond. I do love my goldfish . I have noticed some me of my shubunkin goldfish will actually try to make contact and will follow for food but koi have a distinct personality. Some breeds are more friendlier than others and some a little bit more food aggressive. They definitely do follow you around and when I'm in the ponds they'll they'll swim into me intentionally. Not in a mean way, but just to rub up against you like you said. I love both koi and goldfish . As you might know I breed shubunkin and barbs. I don't really breed my koi. I hope your summer is going well. I would love to see your pond
@AMBELLINA77
@AMBELLINA77 6 күн бұрын
After sharing my too many fish, I'm down to my favorite 6 koi and 5 shubunkins (2-3 years old). Still too many. I think I need another pond. I was going to keep just the koi but they're all so pretty! I picked some serious stunner shubunkins and I am so torn. And now (year two in pond) I have about 50 small fish pop up in all my side tanks, which some might be koi, some not, some both? I think the gin rins are only going to be koi? Surprisingly there is very little info on shububkins online. You've been very informative. Thank you for taking the effort to build the online presence of a really awesome fish.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 5 күн бұрын
I really like my shubunkin goldfish they are so underrated the same token I still love my koi. I really appreciate your kind comments and you watching thanks so much hope to hear from you again and would love to see your system
@aquariumdelirium
@aquariumdelirium Жыл бұрын
I’m liking them both But if I had to pick one to keep first I’d pick shubunkin
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mal. I am with you
@DidisFINDen
@DidisFINDen 11 ай бұрын
my fish club had a talk by a well know koi judge.. it was so interesting to learn about these fish. but there is no way to have enough water to allow them to live a great life. now i have started a shubunkin collection this year. i hope to expand my tub ponds next season. i also love the orandas, and other fancy goldfish....i don't like that i can't se4e all their beauty in the black tubs. maybe one day a diy glass front outdoor pond. as we have so many water mocassins, etc here...i insist the ponds be above ground level....but i do love looking at others beautiful designed ponds. thanks for the vids on all of these.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 11 ай бұрын
No water moccasins this far north. There are plenty of water snakes but they would not normally come to a backyard pond. Garder snakes yes... I understand the need for raised ponds your way...mine have to be inground otherwise they get too cold. I look forward to seeing what all you do. Thanks again my friend
@MarcoIsidori
@MarcoIsidori Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! I think it is difficult to choose which is better if one is fond of ponds and cold water fish would like to have both Koi and Shubunkin carp. Although as you said, the management of Koi carp requires greater investment and space as well as experience and a certain culture on the subject since they are also very expensive and long-lived fish. Good weekend.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
They really do both. Have a great qualities. I just wish they shared some of their best traits especially when it comes to hardiness age. Thanks again my friend
@robynblois1192
@robynblois1192 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chris. I had no idea of the longevity of these fish! Wow. Both are beautiful but I'm with the shubunkins too. It's just so much fun to say.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Haha .. Shuuu Bunk innnn
@twunderaquatics1770
@twunderaquatics1770 Жыл бұрын
I like them both, but shubunkins have always fascinated me from the first time I saw a school of them at a plant nursery. I waited a few years but finally got them. Great video 😊
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Hi Terry. I know how much you love shubunkin goldfish. You have some real beauties there.. plus I love your pond .. koi would destroy a lot of that. I like koi for certain things and shubbies for others.. but if I could only have one .. I would probably have shubunkin goldfish only. But luckily I have a few ponds lol Thanks again buddy
@darrinmoore5206
@darrinmoore5206 Жыл бұрын
Great video. This one was watched in Belfast. The pubs here are all they are cracked up to be.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to hear all about it and bend a couple elbows with you
@mykoiobsession
@mykoiobsession Жыл бұрын
Another well put together video. In my mind there is only one pond fish for me...koi. I especially like the ones featured in your video at 5:58 and 6:48. The person who owns those magnificent koi must really know what he is doing. 🤣 🤣 🤣 Perhaps one day I'll give in to your influence and try shubunkin but for now, koi it is.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I bet you liked those ones the best. Mine are not high quality.. they were all domestic fry when I got them. I appreciate your support and kindness
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
And I doubt you will ever get shubunkin goldfish 😂
@zoltan303stackin
@zoltan303stackin Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info...very beautiful fish
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@zoltan303stackin
@zoltan303stackin Жыл бұрын
@@stubbsaquatics6080 your welcome
@austinstanley2176
@austinstanley2176 Жыл бұрын
I love them both !! 🙌
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.. nice to have family
@sandorspalms
@sandorspalms Жыл бұрын
Great topic and very informative especially for someone thinking about starting a pond. I personally prefer koi but like you mentioned they need room and the water depth is important for our Canadian winters. When I had my pond I did only stock goldfish for the reason mentioned above but regardless they are wonderful fish and I still have two of them in my tank that were originally in my pond over 10 years ago now. Have a great weekend Chris 👊🍻
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I truly love koi... They are true jewels... Just wish they were hardier... They are like a fancy breed of dog that gets sick very easily... When a mutt is just healthier .. Breeders are actually breeding koi back with carp to strengthen the breed.. Now I do like my shubunkin.. just wish they would grow and act more like koi lol
@jiffsterkoi
@jiffsterkoi Жыл бұрын
Great topic chris but for me koi is the winner 🥇
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
That came as a complete shock Mike. I would of never guessed given the beautiful koi you have
@pattys_aquatics
@pattys_aquatics Жыл бұрын
I just started getting into the goldfish/ Koi . Yours are beautiful!!! Great video Stubbs and thanks for the info 👍
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy.. much appreciated
@fishismyhobbyofficial
@fishismyhobbyofficial Жыл бұрын
great video, very informative, thanks for the very useful sharing Chris have a nice day, like 61
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.. I know you like koi
@Heidi.lin...69
@Heidi.lin...69 Жыл бұрын
Love my shebunkin
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
They are some of my favorite fish
@esthermcgee2855
@esthermcgee2855 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I learned so much from your video. Great job again Chris
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Esther
@kretesciezkipawelszulc1960
@kretesciezkipawelszulc1960 11 ай бұрын
Hello my friend, good channel, like.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so very much! I so appreciate that
@KristelTV8
@KristelTV8 Жыл бұрын
Hello there chris😊...for me i think gold fish and shubunskins are beautiful i love tgem both i have them before..it just shubunkins life is shorter than koi.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wish they lived as long and I wish koi was healthy the goldfish thanks again my friend. Take care
@KingsAquariumsAndAntWorld
@KingsAquariumsAndAntWorld 11 ай бұрын
Great video chris ! I have to say that i love both of them hahahhaha , and i wish i could have room for a pond but my gardens to tiny lol. But i love the patterns and colours of both shubunkins and koi. Ive learnt alot from this video! Thanks for sharing 😊
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 11 ай бұрын
Koi are living jewels They certainly get huge and live a long time providing you can keep them healthy and that's the hard thing . the goldfish are a little bit easier but don't have the same coloring and patterning for the most part and definitely don't get as big or live as long
@LifeHomeandGardenwithAnaRica
@LifeHomeandGardenwithAnaRica Жыл бұрын
They are both great but I like Koi the most. Thanks for a great video Chris
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ana... I am still split lol.. each have there own pros that is for sure... I like how big koi are and how friendly they are . Just wish they were as hardy as shubunkin goldfish
@lauramackellar9571
@lauramackellar9571 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chris. Another great video
@jackanddan
@jackanddan Жыл бұрын
Great video Chris……we’re gonna try to have both just like you 😀😀👍👍
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see how they do
@DeFreeseAquariums
@DeFreeseAquariums Жыл бұрын
Great video
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob
@zeny12379
@zeny12379 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful fish,great sharing,thanks Chris.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so very much.. I really appreciate it
@Gilsfishroom
@Gilsfishroom Жыл бұрын
Koi. End of discussion.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I guess there's no arguing with you is it? Hahaha
@AfricanCichlids
@AfricanCichlids Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean about koi adjusting to the climate, I know people who leave them out all year round in the UK.
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I leave my koi outside all year round.. your winters are mild...but most people have raised ponds that don't provide warm areas Thanks a lot Nick
@OCDishChick
@OCDishChick Жыл бұрын
Good morning, Chris!
@OCDishChick
@OCDishChick Жыл бұрын
Your fish are beautiful as ever.
@OCDishChick
@OCDishChick Жыл бұрын
Great information!
@OCDishChick
@OCDishChick Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Niki ☺️ I hope you're doing well. I don't know if you heard, but we had a terrible hailstorm that wiped out our gardens for this year
@johnotooledoggames2336
@johnotooledoggames2336 Жыл бұрын
🇮🇪 Good video sharing
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@theaquaticdesert
@theaquaticdesert Жыл бұрын
Both are beautiful
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, I appreciate that
@greenmachinesweden
@greenmachinesweden Жыл бұрын
I vote for shubunkins! Keeping koi makes no sense really. Too expensive and too much work. You know it as well Chris.🙂👍
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
You serious Magnus... Love my koi but they are expensive to keep... Your filters are the best.... I mentioned that in my last video lol
@greenmachinesweden
@greenmachinesweden Жыл бұрын
@@stubbsaquatics6080 I may have missed a vid or two painting. Will check it now.1😀👍
@MorningDriftwood
@MorningDriftwood Жыл бұрын
I can not provide enough space for both beautiful creatures. 😅
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
That's a shame. Take care
@burke58
@burke58 Жыл бұрын
My answer would be shubunkin, but that’s only cause I like saying the word 🤷‍♂️
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@bigfishlad4847
@bigfishlad4847 Жыл бұрын
I prefer Koi to be honest 👍 I am an ex Carp fisherman so maybe a link there somewhere
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how big carp fishing is over there.. here most people cut there lines if they hook up on a carp as they have light rods for bass and walleye
@TropiscapeAquatics
@TropiscapeAquatics Жыл бұрын
Aren't Koi's one of the most expensive fish in the hobby when it comes to quality? If I remember correctly, there was a Koi that was sold in Japan for something like $1 million
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
You would be correct... They can be very expensive especially quality Japanese koi. Domestic koi are expensive enough.. but reasonable when they are very small... I have always bought very very small koi... Years ago I spent 80 dollars on a koi.... It died in our winter...
@PanRybka22
@PanRybka22 Жыл бұрын
Hello friend :)
@forrestmalcom8351
@forrestmalcom8351 2 ай бұрын
There almost like Mini Kois 😂
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 2 ай бұрын
So very true Malcolm. Thanks so very much for watching and commenting. Have a great week
@FKJ_WORLD
@FKJ_WORLD Жыл бұрын
this is a difficult choice for me personally
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Raleigh
@keepingitkoi
@keepingitkoi Жыл бұрын
Koi all the way 😅😉
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect that from you Jamie 😂👍... Thanks so much for watching and commenting
@keepingitkoi
@keepingitkoi Жыл бұрын
You thought I'd prefer shubumpkins 🤔
@stubbsaquatics6080
@stubbsaquatics6080 Жыл бұрын
@@keepingitkoi hell no!!
@keepingitkoi
@keepingitkoi Жыл бұрын
@@stubbsaquatics6080 😅😅 😘
@thebusybrownangel5829
@thebusybrownangel5829 11 ай бұрын
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