Siberian Finnish spoken

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Wikipedia on Siberian Finnish: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia...
There is a unique form of Finnish spoken in Siberia, this video has it spoken.
Original documentary:
yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2013/01...
You will find much more content there than on this video, which was mostly made to give more traffic to this amazing documentary! :) If you liked this video, go watch it!
This video is non-profit (since I do not own this) and I do not earn from this. This video attempts to give knowledge of this rare form of Finnish to as many people as possible.
Creators (in Finnish)
Ohjelman tekijät: Heikki Ellonen (suun, ohj, ään), Natalija Shpanko (yhteystoimittaja), Ilona Laurikainen (kuvaussihteeri),
Reijo Nikkilä (tuot.), Raimo Hartzell & Juha Heikanen &Taisto Tamminen (kuv). Malker Hamid & Vilho Halonen (ään). Eero Jaakkola (leik). Pirjo Aaltonen (käänt). Eero Saarinen & Jarmo Heikkinen (luk).

Пікірлер: 602

@MS-Fin1917 Жыл бұрын

This sounds like Finnish with Estonian traits. As a Finn I can understand most of their speech, and some words are familiar from my childhood when my grand- and great grand parents from Karelian isthmus were alive.

@taara69 Ай бұрын

I agree, this sounds like a mix of Estonian and Finnish and it's surprising how much I understood, as an Estonian. We have finally found the key to understand each other :D

@jussikankinen9409 22 күн бұрын

Eesti is funny suomi, yy kaa Koli neli

@raapyna8544 21 күн бұрын

Kuulostaa turunmurteelta ja karjalalta minun mielestä. Tosin virolla on kyllä sama aksentti, kuin turunmurteella.

@sateentuoksu 21 күн бұрын

@@jussikankinen9409 yes but no - Üks kaks kolm neli.

@NemohHoes 20 күн бұрын

Sounds much more like Estonian with Finnish traits. As an Estonian I can't understand Finnish, but I think I understood like 60% of this 😀

@pauljmorton 19 күн бұрын

Saturday is sauna day. Some traditions refuse to change.

@kimmosaarinen2780 14 күн бұрын

Is life even worth living if you can't go to the sauna at saturday (and wednesday too)?

@akegan 14 күн бұрын

@@kimmosaarinen2780 nope

@MissMillieEllie 21 күн бұрын

btw, this was shot in June 1992. In case anyone else is interested to know that 😁 Source: original documentary

@AnnatarLordOfGifts 20 күн бұрын

Bro i was literally born in tjt year and month

@missealvaheton241 Жыл бұрын

This is so interesting! I am Estonian, and when I listen to standard spoken Finnish I can understand very little, but here I largely understood what the people were talking about. And then the narrator started talking in standard Finnish and I went back to understanding almost nothing haha.

@wwondertwin Жыл бұрын

It's almost completely understandable to me, a native Finnish speaker. I can't understand Estonian beyond a few words and the feeling that it sounds like I should understand it because it sounds like funny Finnish to me. Very interesting!

@rasmusvainio3774 Жыл бұрын

That's actually really interesting that speakers of both languages can understand this! And yes to me it just sounds like a weird version of Finnish where some words are not understandable.

@abeonthehill166 Жыл бұрын

So the Estonian and Finnish language is very similar ? This would suggest the Finnish language is very ancient and this is why these Siberian Finns and Estonians have many words in common . Thanks for your insights .

@eddyc8900 Жыл бұрын

@@abeonthehill166 2000 years ago they were pretty much the same language. Apparently. Nobody can say for sure. There's a lot of similarities. The meaning of certain words can be a bit different though. Modern Estonian tends to have more words of European origin. Karelian, Ingrian, Veps and Livonian are also closely related languages, but they're not widely spoken nowadays.

@DoktorKouts Жыл бұрын

Täpselt! [That's Estonian.] Exactly! They lived with many Estonians, they say. Their Finnish is very understandable to me, & yes, today's Finnish is hit & miss with us, but this sounds very familiar. Huvitav! Interesting!

@mikahamari6420 2 жыл бұрын

This is a linguistical treasure. What is left of the heritage of these people, my heart is with that. As expected, their speech is a combination of Finnic features I haven't ever heard anywhere else. The main component comes from different dialects of Finnish, but some speakers have very strong resemblance to Karelian (or Eastern component). There are also elements that have origin in Estonian. It can be heard that they have lived in an area in which different Finnic languages have had mutual influences.

@ristuksenvittu 2 жыл бұрын

voisin väittää että ukuritsat ja malinat on ainakin venäläistä alkuperää, voisin väittää että perunasta puhuvat kartoskana

@user-ce6iy2nw5o Жыл бұрын

almost like they speak in an estonian accent

@KibyNykraft Жыл бұрын

@@user-ce6iy2nw5o No... Hehh... Maybe one could say inkeri or old Petsamo /Salla dialects.

@KibyNykraft Жыл бұрын

@@ristuksenvittu Malinen is a surname in north-eastern Norway , but there pronounced "Mallinen".

@reinokarvinen8845 7 ай бұрын

I got no troubles understanding

@IgorMikeshin 23 күн бұрын

As a Russian currently living in Finland and learning Finnish, and previously living in Estonia, this is absolutely fascinating

@sitema423 19 күн бұрын

Karvalakki päässä oli kesä eli talvi👍❤

@Markoboy99 19 күн бұрын

This is an experience to say the least. I'm a native Estonian speaker and I moved to Finland when I was 11yo, so 14 years ago now. Basically I know both languages very well so it is so strange to hear this.

@hilkkahovi7494 Ай бұрын

Ihanat vanhukset, vaimo yrittää "pomottaa" 🥰

@TheSmardu 10 күн бұрын

Yrittää 😂 ei yritä, vaan pomottaa ja teurastaa lampaat

@Joni_Tarvainen 22 күн бұрын

I have no idea why this was recommended to me, but I'm glad it was. By looking at the other people commenting, it seems that Estonians understand the Siberian Finnish but not the narrator/interviewer whereas I as a Finn understand both but not Estonian. Their dialect sounds very Savonian from time to time, especially Kosti's & Mari's pronunciation and the choices of the words. Especially when Kosti was speaking about how Finns weren't drafted in USSR and he was "savotassa" (doing forestry) which is a word still used in Northern-Savonia, but I haven't heard the word anywhere else in Finland.

@petrikarkkainen1586 21 күн бұрын

Kyllä savotta tunnetaan Kymenlaaksossakin.

@Joni_Tarvainen 21 күн бұрын

@@petrikarkkainen1586 No perhana, eipä ole tullut kuultua kertaakaan täällä vähän päälle vuosikymmenen asuneena 😅 Kiitokset infosta, hyvä että säilynyt täälläkin

@t0msula 21 күн бұрын

Lapissa kans savotta sana elää. Luulenpa että lähinnä merkityksensä takia hiipunut arkikäytöstä. Harvempi ihminen nykyään savotassa hommissa. Toki joissain murteissa sanaa käytetään puhekielessä vastineena kovalle työlle. Esim: "Oli siinä vain savottaa, mutta saatiin tehdyksi"

@Joni_Tarvainen 21 күн бұрын

@@t0msula Sittenhän tuo minun alkuperänen kommentti on ihan huuhaata ja tietämättömyyttä 😅 Tuo on kyllä ihan totta, että ei sitä metsä hommia yhtä isolla kädellä tänä päivänä tehdä ellei siihen oikeen kouluttaudu. Tuo myös, kuinka sitä käytetään yleisen työn nimikkeenä oli jotain, jonka olin jo unohtanut kokonaan kunnes sanoit. Esimerkiks minulla saattaa mutsi sanoa että "olipaha savottaa" ja hää on Kymenlaaksolainen, tosin Savossa pitkään myös asunut.

@SetiSupreme 21 күн бұрын

@@Joni_TarvainenSavotta on kyllä erittäin yleinen sana ympäri Suomen. En nyt äkkiä edes keksi puunkaatohommille muuta nimeä! Terveisin Oulu

@heikkileivo 19 күн бұрын

Brilliant, pity the video was so short. God bless the algorithms for recommendation.

@Uralicchannel 19 күн бұрын

I somehow managed to hit the algorith jackpot!

@source9264 Жыл бұрын

Im finnish and I understand every word. Its like finnish language with partly estonian accent and few estonian words that are understandable, mostly words that are also modern finnish words.

@Uralicchannel Жыл бұрын

Well Siberian Finnish is a dialect lol

@Kotifilosofi 22 күн бұрын

I find there's a lot less postpositions than in Finnish words, words are more in their simple basic form like in Estonian. Also the order of words on sentences resembles more that of Estonian than Finnish I think (Finnish is my native, I don't know Estonian other than what I've heard).

@tapijoz 21 күн бұрын

@@Kotifilosofi There are so many siberian Finnic Peoples so saying that is generalizing. But overall there are more postpositional suffixes in Estonian and the Finno Uralic languages other than Finnish. There are also way more consonant sounds and consonant gradation is more common and more widely used.

@Kotifilosofi 21 күн бұрын

@@tapijoz I didn't generalize anything, I just merely stated what I heard, without knowing the language and these dialects of Finnish. I doubt there is, because there's way more cases in Finnish than Estonian far as I know. For example, the suffixes of verbs in Finnish vs. Estonian. Or maybe I have false information 😅

@tapijoz 21 күн бұрын

@@Kotifilosofi I checked this and you were right, about estonian and finnish. Anyway, all the different languages should be thought about individually, because even though the languages are related, they have very different environmental influences. For example ngangasan love consonant gradation, there are so many different ones and they are thought to be germanic origin.

@kulukala5512 Жыл бұрын

Mielenkiintoinen video!! Kiitos paljon! Toivon tällaisia haastatteluja lisää.

@endrebaracska5583 7 ай бұрын

Iam hungarian,your text not similar. In hungarian language this " Érdekes videó!! Nagyon köszönöm! Remélem még lesz ilyen interjú.

@elishh8173 2 ай бұрын

I love these people!!! They're beautiful!!! Im Finnish! These are my sisters and brothers 💖💖💖💖

@hippi1130 22 күн бұрын

incest is such a beautiful thing 😊💖

@markkumanninen6524 Жыл бұрын

My father's family evacuated from Karelia. The elders in this vid looked quite like my grandparents and their friends. My dear late grandmother used to say "a vot" when offering something to others. I understood these people quite well. A very interesting video!

@osk9013 Жыл бұрын

:) My grandparents from Karelian Isthmus spoke in similar way.

@jameslongstreet9259 Жыл бұрын

My grandad was from Kanneljärvi and my granmom from Uusikirkko on the Karelian Isthmus

@ReidGarwin 5 ай бұрын

Very similar to the old norse word for offering "blót"

@mijusa4724 3 ай бұрын

@markkumanni... Mulla on samankaltainen tausta. Isovanhempani isäni puolelta olivat Suojärveltä👍🏻😊

@yeast7485 23 күн бұрын

@@jameslongstreet9259 My great grandfather and grandmother are from uusikirkko as well! pieni maailma

@kallekas8551 3 ай бұрын

Nuts! As a Finn who has lived in Australian for 45 years ( came here as a child) I can actually understand this!!

@dntskdnttll 8 күн бұрын

Good that you have kept the ability! If you have kids please please pass it on to them... the world gives too much pressure not to

@user-bp5ds9ff6z 3 күн бұрын

Jännä. Kun suomlisena ymmärtää suomea, ni ei se täälläkään enää ole itsestäänselvyys

@kallekas8551 Күн бұрын

@@user-bp5ds9ff6zHei kuule…tulin tänne 8 vuotiaana ja kyllä kieli sujuu ihan okei. Siihen on nyt kulunut 46 vuotta.

@kallekas8551 Күн бұрын

@@dntskdnttllCheers! Still got it but it’s hard to teach my dog to speak Finnish, even though he understands English/Finnish.🤣No human kids thanks.🤫

@kallekas8551 Күн бұрын

@@dntskdnttllun😊

@wdvnge 8 ай бұрын

Todella loistava pätkä!

@thamor4746 20 күн бұрын

Ihmeellinen kun ehdotettu juuri nyt tätä, mutta mielenkiintoinen dokkari. Koskahan tää oli Yle:ltä oikeasti tullut.

@yoretabio4537 14 күн бұрын

1992 mainittu

@aleksisuuronen5969 18 күн бұрын

There is also a lot of traits about finnish that was spoken before it has formed. Like say some 1940's finnish. There is that more so rouding up words when we don't really do that anymore. Kinda like Päläkähällä (a places name) with a swang and it would be now just straight up be Pälkähällä. Also like we used to elongate words a lot more like tyttö kasvanut kauniiiiks (girl has grown to be beautiful) with the swang when now wouldn't even be frased like that but more like on kyllä kasvanut kauniiks (really has become beautiful).

@j9mmer Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. I can understand most of it as an Estonian.

@endrebaracska5583 7 ай бұрын

Write please your english sentence please Estonian.I sent you Hungarian" Nagyon érdekes. Mint Észt a többségét nem értem"

@j9mmer 5 ай бұрын

@@endrebaracska5583 Väga huvitav. Eestlasena saan suuremast osast aru.

@MyFalabella 4 ай бұрын

I speak Finnish as my mother tongue and Russian as a foreign language. I feel like their speech is a Finnish dialect with Estonian influences topped with some Russian words.

@arkan324 21 күн бұрын

@@MyFalabella And a slight russian accent. It's confusing how the man wearing flat cap at times sounds like a native and then uses some completely foreign words.

@DerMacko 19 күн бұрын

interesting point of note, she uses "veljeä" @4:40, karelians would use "veikat", so they're are southerners, indeed. At teh start of the vid i had some doubts, but that one tidbit settlet it. :D

@Demons972 21 күн бұрын

I'm learning Finnish and I was surprised on how much I could understand even tho my Finnish still not that good, I did noticed some Estonian words and a slightly Russian accent on their dialect.

@miklu56 20 күн бұрын

Todella mielenkiintoista, kuunnella ja oppia. Hieno dokumentti.

@andresrenss 5 ай бұрын

I remember singing the same song from the beginning of the video at Estonian sunmer camp in Toronto as a kid.

@Tomijee 22 күн бұрын

Mielenkiintoinen video, kiitoksia

@ykserkki9929 8 ай бұрын

Kiitos!

@ee326k 6 ай бұрын

Really interesting, for some reason it's a lot easier to understand this dialect as an Estonian than it is to understand someone from only 80km north from Helsingi, it's perhaps some differences in pronounciation or accent (and words being mixed)

@paulaautio4251 3 ай бұрын

❤ Mitä sinne teille nyt kuuluu? Kaunista laulua, ja niin hyvin ymmärrettyä suomenkieltä vanhan pariskunnan puheessa. Inkerinsuomalaisia joita asui ennen Inkerinmaalla.

@mikrologia7455 10 ай бұрын

Sounds like Finnish from Rauma area. Some bits sounds like spoken Estonian but definitely Finnish words rather than Estonian. Excellent example how languages evolve.

@brandoninhofer6592 21 күн бұрын

Yes. After living around Rauma, I agree 😂.

@TheRenaissanceGuys 22 күн бұрын

Siinä olisi varmaan ollut muidenkin suomalaisten kohtalo, jos Venäjä olisi valloittanut. Suomi olisi sitten asutettu "paremmalla väellä".

@TeroVaan-hi3hr 22 күн бұрын

No tuohan on suomalaisten alkuperäinen asuinpaikka.

@JohnDoe-ro4nf 22 күн бұрын

@@TeroVaan-hi3hr Niin on Afrikkakin

@robertohartikainen3578 22 күн бұрын

Vai olisko ollut sama kohtalo ku Baltian mailla...

@Nobody-Nowhere 22 күн бұрын

Ei tainnut Venäjä valloittaa vaikka hävittiin kaksi kertaa sodassa. Mutta mikäs olisi ollut lopputulos, jos oltaisiin voitettu? Luuletko että Saksa olisi säilyttänyt Suomen itsenäisyyden?

@krisu8193 22 күн бұрын

@@JohnDoe-ro4nf debunkattu moneen kertaan toi "afrikka teoria".

@juocyjay5732 21 күн бұрын

As a finn that also speaks estonian fluently, I understand this near-perfectly. It’s funny how I caught myself understanding words like ”suvimüts”(more estonian than finnish) watching this with a finnish friend, who was then confused.

@kari-pekkamakkeli9494 9 сағат бұрын

Erittäin mielenkiintoista materiaalia! 👍

@zoolkhan Жыл бұрын

wow... as a finn i was surprised to understand so much of what they said. it is weird to know that we have relatives in siberia ...but also kind of cool. too bad their children leave the villages and become russianized in moscow

@yksi2883 Жыл бұрын

My ancestors was born in Finland and in eastern Karelia, i was born in Siberia, buy i remember about my heritage and study finnish language.

@zoolkhan Жыл бұрын

@@yksi2883 Very nice. It is so hard to keep the culture alife in times when the young people dont care, or cannot afford to care. All the best, and peace to you

@derkov 8 ай бұрын

these people are also sorry that Finns leave their farms and become Anglophiles in Swedish cities

@oltzu5206 Ай бұрын

@@yksi2883Mahtavaa

@nou712 23 күн бұрын

@@derkov Even if you were fried in butter...

@leevi660 22 күн бұрын

This is pretty interesting. I myself am from around the Pirkanmaa region in Finland, lived a long time in Lapland, and I can understand everything fluently. Like Finnish with a Estonian rhythm to it. Some of it sounds kinda Karelian which is in part close to the northern dialects.

@eddyc8900 Жыл бұрын

I think my grandmother in Finland spoke like that. It's not hard for me to understand 😀

@IrwinGoodman22 3 ай бұрын

Konaukko :D

@martinlaulunen7189 4 ай бұрын

Kiitos,...:)

@qwertyu600 Жыл бұрын

It's Finnish, very easy to understand, they rhytm they speak in is more similar to Estonian.

@incremental_failure Жыл бұрын

Very true. Must be the slavic/Russian influence. Many Estonians further in the south and/or near Russia speak like this. I find it quite alien as well. Northern Estonians speak more like Finns, slower and smoother.

@qwertyu600 Жыл бұрын

@@incremental_failure Interesting. I have noticed that some Estonian speakers are alot easier to understand with Finnish backround. Are there alot of dialects?

@incremental_failure Жыл бұрын

@@qwertyu600 Estonian had many dialects before but since the language standardisation, they only exist as peculiarities, no-one in a modern settings would use them. There's some still used like in Tartumaa the word "hea" is often said as "hää" or Saaremaa resisting the õ letter and using ö instead.

@qwertyu600 Жыл бұрын

@@incremental_failure That's sad. :( Finland standardized their language aswell but people kept speaking their own dialects and still do to this day very strongly, alot of people do hide it though when they move to the cities but as soon as they go visit home they speak their dialect. And I'd say even that is changing and dialects are seen as more cool in the cities nowadays when before they were thought as farmer talk.

@incremental_failure Жыл бұрын

@@qwertyu600 Finland is a far bigger, more important country. In the world of globalisation, it's all getting lost though in Estonia and it's just a natural process. No point being a luddite.

@DerMacko 19 күн бұрын

heiii it stops short!! eh, he was gonna say somethi

@Emppu_T. 21 күн бұрын

♥️ nice to hear from them.

@ookami112 22 күн бұрын

This is like finding gold ! My grandparents spoke some sort like this so i understand it 99% Most of it it Finnish with an acsent and "frases" that chances in every region.

@Jaksary 21 күн бұрын

Avartava pätkä, thanks for the upload

@Desertime 3 ай бұрын

It's funny how the intonations *really* remind me of breton (spoken the good ol' way, but it sadly is very influenced by french pronunciation amoung the younger people that still speak the language, apart from a lucky few). It truly sounds rural, I love it.

@zodsi 21 күн бұрын

very interesting video

@LumiSisuSusi 20 күн бұрын

As someone who lives in Finland and speaks some Finnish I understand a lot of what they are saying.

@ZadenZane Жыл бұрын

PLEASE ENABLE SUBTITLES! I'd love to see KZfaq trying to translate this!

@juhanaliesjarvi9139 14 күн бұрын

impossible😂 this ain't even a language but a dialect

@Yourabortwouldhavebecome-ie7lr 22 күн бұрын

incredible! Just magnificent! I've never in my life heard that there is still trases of my people and our language left in siberia. And its compleatly undersandable, ofc there is some things that are at least for me left in the dark what they are saying but most I understand as a finnish man.

@SergeyPRKL 19 күн бұрын

many words they used, are used in the "Stadin slangi" the Helsinki city dialect from the earlier part of 1900's. And Karelian and Ingrian.

@Yourabortwouldhavebecome-ie7lr 19 күн бұрын

@@SergeyPRKL ik i've lived my whole life speaking stadin slangii

@KuriReevel 2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@mustamuri 21 күн бұрын

Sieltä löytyy vielä aitoa vanhaa käsityöosaamista , jota ei enään suomesta löydy ✨🙏✨

@mursuhillo242 Жыл бұрын

"Suolainen suomen maa" *thumbsup*

@vilivonkin6243 Жыл бұрын

Aika tönkkösuolattu jo.

@Hy-jg8ow 3 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@Alexandros.Mograine 2 ай бұрын

Tavallaan muistuttaa Viron (eesti) kieltä aika paljon.

@barocuseremiticus 6 ай бұрын

Interesting. It took a few minutes to get adjusted to their dialect, but after that I understood nearly everything. The words I didn't understand I could guess from context.

@SpringWaterPaul 6 ай бұрын

Nii

@barocuseremiticus 6 ай бұрын

no@@SpringWaterPaul

@haikeaintiaani9183 3 ай бұрын

fucking facinating my grandpahs side is from carelia viipuri and other fathers father is origined from norther lapslands so i goth those siberian eskimo eyes but they are more deep inside in my head not having those russian ears and noses what amasing sympathethick scene to see my roots and still unerstand some what they try to tell if you speaks simple things

@reinokarvinen8845 2 ай бұрын

talking like my karelian grand mum. I understand the lot

@anterotimonen6442 4 күн бұрын

Kivoja aitoja ihmisiä.. iloisia onnellisia... ei kaupungin ulkokultaisia kivisydämiä.. Herra siunatkoon heitä .. Amen

@94matson 22 күн бұрын

Neuvostoliitto oli valtava tragedia. Venäjän alueen eri kulttuurit, kielet ja kansat venäläistettiin pakolla. Stalin tuhosi inkerinsuomalaisten kulttuurin Pietarin alueella, muista kansoista puhumattakaan. Voidaan hyvällä syyllä puhua miljoonien tai ainakin satojen tuhansien suomalaisten kansanmurhasta.

@Neonols 2 ай бұрын

I am Turkish and my uncle looks like that grandma, especially in nose and eyebrows I also look like her but ı don't look like her husband and I look like a bit of a Kosti Mertsov face type

@DiabloManiacz 22 күн бұрын

Tears started flowing 5 seconds after they started talking :(

@FilipWinter 21 күн бұрын

Suomi, saami, shamaani 🙏

@tampereenkeskustaajama3057 3 жыл бұрын

Miten nämä siperiaan on pääytynyt? Stalinin vainoissa vai?

@Uralicchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Joo

@tampereenkeskustaajama3057 3 жыл бұрын

@@Uralicchannel Kiitos vastauksesta!

@jiajiaoioi 21 күн бұрын

Tosiasiahan on se, että suomalaisten maat on yltänyt norjan rannikoilta aina uralille asti. Voit itse päätellä loput. Jos siis kriittistä ajattelua on tänä päivänä enään pätkääkään jäljellä.

@molotovribbentrop2839 20 күн бұрын

@@jiajiaoioi *Suomalais-Ugrilaisten maat, ei Suomalaisten

@SergeyPRKL 19 күн бұрын

suosittelen lukemistoa: Vieras isänmaa INKERILÄISEN KOHTALONTIE Oskar Himiläinen

@jarodjohnson4357 9 күн бұрын

Im a finnish swedish american, on my dads side my grandmother and all my great aunts would speak english with a very thick finnish accent. On my moms side her grandmother lived here in the U.P. of MI and never learned English, only spoke finnish.

@teemunator 22 күн бұрын

Kuis usein saunaa lämmität..? Joka viikko, lauantain. OG OG :)

@InkyMuste 21 күн бұрын

Mielenkiintosta kyllä miettiä että miten kauas tuokin tapa menee

@SatumainenOlento 19 күн бұрын

Supi suomalainen siis 😅

@TheNismo777 2 жыл бұрын

Our ppl the most brave of them all

@MultiPets. 20 күн бұрын

I swear Paavo is Estonian, I can tell from his mumbling.

@user-p6-3561 8 күн бұрын

wow

@heinohattu Ай бұрын

♥

@Wadelmaz 20 күн бұрын

It sounds like their family perhaps were Karelian-Finnish? I know Karelian languages (mostly Aunus dialect) and there's something very comforting and familiar about their speech! Thank you for sharing

@SergeyPRKL 19 күн бұрын

I bet they are Ingrians originally.

@pomelo9262 18 күн бұрын

@@SergeyPRKLinkerin suomalaiset oli rajaseudulla asumassa, ei siperiassa. Kun nämä haastateltavat on ainakin parin polven ajan olleet tuolla. Inkeriläiset jaottuivat vasta sodan jälkeen venäjän ja suomen puolille, näiden ihmisten isovanhemmat loikkasivat venäjälle paljon ennen tätä

@kulukala5512 Жыл бұрын

Minä vuonna tämä dokumentti on kuvattu? Kiitän. Tosi hyvä mielenkiintoinen video.

@marin_1441 Жыл бұрын

I guess 1990s

@oz_jones 21 күн бұрын

1992 dokumentti julkaistiin alunperin , joten varmaan 1990/1991-92 kuvattu.

@diegobassofficial 5 ай бұрын

As a estonian i can understand siberian finnish more than finnish itself.

@sassisch 5 ай бұрын

How long have these people been living in those eastern locations with little or no contacts with Finland? As to differences between Finnish and Estonian (and Livian), you need to consider the fact that some “estrangement” of Estonian (and Livian) from other Finnic languages came to be exacerbated by strong lexical influences from Low Saxon (“Low German”) and German. I seem to have heard in the video the Estonian word “müts” for “(woolen) cap” (rather than Finnish “myssy”). That comes from Low Saxon “Mütz” (or German “Mütze”).

@avatarion 21 күн бұрын

Not for long. Soviets forcibly moved them there.

@seppostolt9024 9 ай бұрын

Suomea myös muualla. Hyvä🎉Seppo Suomesta. 😍

@vseslavkazakov356 3 жыл бұрын

what I like about this clip is that they don't have russian accent

@JoskuEllis Жыл бұрын

Obvious propaganda.

@ristusnotta1653 Жыл бұрын

what do you mean they do have accent :D

@vseslavkazakov356 Жыл бұрын

@@ristusnotta1653 idk I don't speak Siberian Finnish however whenever I listen to any Russian minority language I can hear that the sounds are exactly the same as those in Russian language and if it wasn't for the fact that I could not understand a single word, I would probably not even be able to differentiate between the language and Russian. In this video however, I can clearly hear that the language does not sound like Russian at all.

@ristusnotta1653 Жыл бұрын

@@vseslavkazakov356 well i am a Finnish speaker and that sounds exactly like what it would sound when a Russian tries to pronounce Finnish

@hrn4757 Жыл бұрын

@@ristusnotta1653 No way, man. Puppua! The man doesn't speak much but the woman certainly doesn't sound like a Russian trying to speak Finnish AT ALL. It sounds exactly like she's a native speaker of an Eastern Finnish / Karelian / border zone dialect but maybe hasn't spoken Finnish for a while.

@akegan 19 күн бұрын

❤

@jax99888 17 күн бұрын

Jännän kuulonen kieli, ku kuulostaa suomelta, karjalan kieleltä ja eestiltä yhtä aikaa, lievällä venäläisellä aksentilla. Interesting language, sounds like finnish, karelian and estonian at the same time, with a slight russian accent.

@sledgehog1 21 күн бұрын

I believe one of the uses of AI would be to keep this alive for the times to come!

@einienj3281 20 күн бұрын

Hieman on vaikeaa pysyä perässä, mut jos asuis heidän kanssaan pari päivää niin ehkä ymmärtäisin paremmin.

@tuolinkantaja 11 күн бұрын

Käyttää vähän väliä venäläisiä lainasanoja mutta sanovat ne suomalaisittain. Itelle särähtikorvaa ”Kasutarstva” sana. Just niiku mummo aikoinaa sen lausu 😂

@mantiateria5070 7 күн бұрын

Onpa kiva nähdä vanhaa filmiä, vanhoja ihmisiä köyhistä oloista ja mutta läsnä rikkaasti elämässä kiinni.

@MikeBeachcola 21 күн бұрын

Surullista, kun pakotettu muuttamaan kotimaastaan aikoinaan :(

@gabrielgabriel5177 5 ай бұрын

Waaaw. As a finnish guy this is fascinating God bless our brothers and sisters all around in Russia 🔥

@anssi2267 22 күн бұрын

"Jos on liikaa niin kruunulle annetaan" 🤣 Neuvosto-Venäjällä ei ollut kansalla mitään muuta liikaa kun vessapaperin arvosia ruplia.

@ukk768 22 күн бұрын

Eikä kyllä rupliakaan ollu, ku kaikki mitä jäi yli meni armeijalle

@BuyChees Жыл бұрын

Ukkini ja ukin suku kotoisin Suojärveltä, Karjala brihatsu tziikaili zirbuloit ja jne. Olisi hienoa kuulla lisää näiden Krjalaisten sukujuurista.💪

@vladislavcherkunov9989 3 жыл бұрын

What year is it? Do they still preserve their language? Where exactly do they live?

@PetriW 3 жыл бұрын

They are Finns who stayed in their homes in Karelia and were sent to Siberia by Stalin, after the WW2. They are speaking some eastern Finnish dialect, but they have forgotten how to speak Finnish well.

@Uralicchannel 3 жыл бұрын

2013 documentary, the dialect is not yet extinct

@gwailou5 2 жыл бұрын

This document is from 1992

@timoterava7108 2 жыл бұрын

@@PetriW AFAIK only 19 individuals stayed in their homes in Karelia, so these Siberian Finns are not them. I suppose they are mainly Ingrian Finns, which were deported during Stalin's reign. Based on the video also some of the Finnish Reds, who crossed the border to Russia after 1918, also ended up in Siberia.

@timoterava7108 Жыл бұрын

@@vasara2385 "Somehow convinced" = threat of occupation.

@phantasosyumeshin8017 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Valt. How different is siberian finnish from Fennoscandian finnish?

@ristusnotta1653 3 жыл бұрын

i think they are originally from Karelia (east of Finland), at least the way they speak sounds like some Karelian dialect to me, there might be some Russian words added here and there too

@FinQuerilla 2 жыл бұрын

That last guy had rather strong "Bothnic" dialect (his wife spoke something else). 5:25 "Minuu ei otettu" 5:42 "Oli niit' täälkin." 5:46 "Aina nauro sielt' että, me ollaa suomen ylirajanloikkari" 5:52 "Itte sano'vat itteen päälle" Also I have to say I can hear other kind of influences from him but mostly Bothnic. I'm from Central-Bothnia

@Krinzadar 2 жыл бұрын

It's like watching an old finnish movie with heavy accents. The more I watch it the clearer it becomes. I can understand pretty much everything.

@Jrgosman Жыл бұрын

It's like some older finnish dialect

@zami8827 Жыл бұрын

Its pretty different, like that russian have fused in the finnish, but its pretty undertandable.

@jonatan3224 5 күн бұрын

Would love some subtitles :(

@ivrishcon-abarth38 18 күн бұрын

Selevee suomee!

@avari6167 7 ай бұрын

Mikähä lie on tuon metsovien alaku peräne sukumini 🤔

@arctuuz 21 күн бұрын

Erikoisjännää

@Rutinuiva 6 күн бұрын

Mummo oli suomalainen ja synty Murmanskissa. 😊

@hyhhy Жыл бұрын

They speak like halfway between Finnish and Estonian? At least that's my impression as a Finnish speaker. Cool. Someone commented they might be derived mainly from Ingrians Finns. Ingria is next to Estonia.

@oranienbaum 16 күн бұрын

Niin muuten...Suomalaisten alkuperä on muiden länsiuralilaisten ja itämerensuomalaisten kansojen tavoin Volga-, Oka- ja Kama-jokien välillä nykyisen Venäjän alueella.

@Telfia 7 ай бұрын

Kõlab eesti ja soome keelte segu moodi. Kuulostaa viron ja suomen kielen yhdistelmältä.

@tomsilven 23 күн бұрын

Inkerinmaa

@Telfia 22 күн бұрын

@@tomsilven Voi olla

@SergeyPRKL 19 күн бұрын

@@Telfia on. Iha selvää inkeriä.

@MsXenyy1 11 күн бұрын

Vau!

@helstein Жыл бұрын

they kinda sound more estonian when speaking than a finnish

@karstafarius 20 күн бұрын

Aika pitkälle on suomalaiset joskus matkustaneet ja asuttaneet uusia alueita. Vähän joka puolelle maailmaa.

@myrrysmaikku Жыл бұрын

Onko tänäpäivänä siperiassa enää suomea puhuvia yhtäkään? Tuskin kun ei paljo karjalassakaan 🤔 Mielenkiintosia videoit täl kanaval!

@sesaarinen 4 ай бұрын

Kyllä Karjalassa vielä on suomenkielisiä ja erityisesti karjalaa puhuvia. Mutta venäläiset taitaa nykyään olla enemmistönä, etenkin kaupungeissa. Ymmärtääkseni maaseudulla puhutaan sitten enemmän karjalaa, suomea, ym. suomensukuisia kieliä.

@tuukka8803 Ай бұрын

@@sesaarinen pari mummoa siellä täällä.. se on ihan kuollut, muistaakseni 20 000 puhujaa, jotka vähenee samaa tahtia kun sotaveteraanit