Siege Engine Confusion! Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game MESBG

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3 жыл бұрын

Aug 2021 UPDATE: It has now been officially clarified that if a shot hits a combat, only one model is hit, just like a shooting attack, and therefore only 1 model can have all their wounds removed amongst any models who are wounded. Other models take damage as described in the FAQs, or "splash damage" from a Catapul/Trebuchet if they are within 2".
In this video I go over how Siege Engines work when they are firing into combat, and some of the outstanding rules confusion about how to resolve these shots into combat.

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@strangersun7721 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are so clear and insightful. Much appreciated!

@sevenringsgaming2130 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I think a lot of questions have been clarified by FAQs now

@aereoka 3 жыл бұрын

man preety awesome how do you explain the rules and the post its , you could learn how to edit videos and you will be legend tier hero!

@sevenringsgaming2130 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I am just using my phone and Microsoft video editor at the moment, but if I do more army guides / tactic videos in the future I will look into getting a better setup.

@aereoka 3 жыл бұрын

@@sevenringsgaming2130 i think you should explain stuff related to wierd rules like gorgoroth beast, LOS for shooting , in the way , and weird scenarios involving miniatures

@sevenringsgaming2130 3 жыл бұрын

@@aereoka I could probably do that! Like a Top 10 Mistakes/Misconceptions video. And things that are in the FAQ about specific stuff, so not everybody really knows about it. But some of these wierd/specific things can be game changing if it means you finish on an objective or not in the final turn of the game!! So they can definitely be good things for people to know and visualise as well by seeing models actually acting out what might happen.

@MR0ASIK 2 жыл бұрын

i do have a problem with severed heads with the mordor catapult: if it shots cavalry the strenght 3 hit has to be rolled for mount or rider? or both mount and rider get hit?

@sevenringsgaming2130 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, it would be both, as a Siege Engine shot in the main rules is described as hitting all parts of a cavalry model individually, so it is probably quite useful against cavalry.

@MR0ASIK 2 жыл бұрын

@@sevenringsgaming2130 very nice thats what I was hoping for! thanks a lot mate! keep good mesbg gaming ;)

@kwnstantinostestempashs1553 2 жыл бұрын

So when you rolled “2” and hit Lurtz, you made a special In The Way test roll because the initial target was engaged in combat with a friendly model. If Lurtz was on Gandalf’s back, you wouldn’t have hit Lurtz and Gandalf would be hit as Directly hit and then Lurtz would take the Piercing Shot dmg. Am I right ?

@sevenringsgaming2130 2 жыл бұрын

So the way it works now is that if you target a combat, you roll to hit, then roll the scatter. If it hits a combat it works just like a bow and arrow (1-3 hits your own model, 4-6 hits the opponent). The rest of the models in combat still take a S9 hit and are knocked prone. The model that was hit is flung directly back, which could take them into and over other models in the combat if they are in a direct line behind them, so those models would take another hit from being flung into. If the model at the "back" of the combat from the Ballista's perspective is hit, then they would be flung clean away out of the back of the combat, but the other models in the combat would still take a S9 hit and be knocked pront per the FAQ on "how do Dwarf Ballistae work?" in the Armies of the Lord of the Rings FAQ.

@MR0ASIK 2 жыл бұрын

Q: If the shot from a Siege Engine hits a combat, will every model in that combat count as being hit by the initial shot, or will only the model that is hit directly count as being hit by the initial shot? (p.115) A: Only the model that is directly hit.

@MR0ASIK 2 жыл бұрын

from the deisgners' note q&a about the rules book

@MR0ASIK 2 жыл бұрын

number 2

@seansaville1982 11 ай бұрын

Where are the rules which say that every model in the combat gets knocked down if someone in the combat is hit by a siege weapon?

@sevenringsgaming2130 11 ай бұрын

Hi, that should be in the main rulebook as a general point, and then the latest on Ballistas specifically is in the FAQ on Warhammer Community for Armies of Lord of the Rings, where it talks about Dwarf Ballistae, as this type of Ballista doesn't knock over strength 6 and above.