Siege of Orléans-(Joan of Arc)

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7 жыл бұрын

The Siege of Orléans (1428-1429) was the watershed of the Hundred Years' War between France and England. It was the French Royal army's first major military victory while Joan of Arc was with the army and the first to follow the crushing defeat at Agincourt in 1415.[2] The siege took place at the pinnacle of English power during the later stages of the war. The city held strategic and symbolic significance to both sides of the conflict. The consensus among contemporaries was that the English regent, John of Lancaster, would have succeeded in realizing Henry V's dream of conquering all of France if Orléans fell. For half a year the English appeared to be winning but the siege collapsed nine days after Joan's arrival.

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@JanXXVI 6 жыл бұрын

There was much more than 4000 vs 500 at Agincourt, more like perhaps 36 000 vs 9000. This movie stinks of modern crap. Joan of Arc, did not decide military tactics, which she had no understanding of, she was afterall a peasent girl, and im not saying that to be condesending. What Joan og Arc was, was a very powerful motivator for the French. The belive in that God was on your side, and a Girl claiming she got signs from god, promising them victory, if truly belived in, which most of them did, since they were very religious in that time, was a extremely effective way to drive your men to victory. Examples of this, was the crusades, when they had taken Antioch, only to be besiged by a large army, and morale dropped. Then a priest claimed to have found a holy relic, and the faith that god was on their side, shot their enthusiasm up to extremes, and they rode out and charged the enemy without hesitation, the enemy was in disbelif and ran.

@morleyyan3414 6 жыл бұрын

If it works, It works. Smarter than the battle of the Somme

@ihl0700677525 6 жыл бұрын

He probably only count the knights, not the peasant contingent and mercenaries.

@ActionableFreedom 6 жыл бұрын

Wrong. She was in constant consultation with the military command and had a say in military tactics. Several of the campaigns were on her insistence, both those that succeeded such as Orleans and the capture of the keep and those that failed such as the attack on Paris which was effectively not only organised by her but financed and supplied by her as she travelled the country side asking for alms and volunteers, betrayed or at least abandoned by her king. Not to mention both fought in battles and was wounded at least twice. Do not let your pre conceived notions about Hollywood lead your tongue astray about subjects you're obviously not very interested in.

@colinnorthridge1570 6 жыл бұрын

references please

@ActionableFreedom 6 жыл бұрын

When ever you decide to hire me I'll look things up for you.

@mohammadshah3496 5 жыл бұрын

I can only say that Joan's feat during that 3 years cannot be repeated again by anyone. What an amazing girl she was.

@carmenana4890 4 жыл бұрын

Yes she was 👍

@Vrangsynn 5 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this on tv at the same time I was playing the Joan of Arc Age of Empires 2 campaign, good times

@boxingmaniac3511 5 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@willemvanleeuwen3989 2 жыл бұрын

Joan of arc

@DavidAbyssal Жыл бұрын

nice...!

@gerharddeusser9103 5 жыл бұрын

This has taught me to better read about historical events. Sometimes films impair imagination, rather than stimulating it.

@lecaillenoire9146 5 жыл бұрын

Jeanne ,toujours dans nos coeurs !!!

@tanler7953 5 жыл бұрын

The 1999 film "The Messenger" looks better. By the time Joan appeared on the scene there wasn't a strata of French society that wasn't willing to try a new strategy. Of course, the king and the military elite treated her with a measure of skepticism. However, Joan's impact on the morale of the regular troops was impossible to deny. This excerpt from the tv mini-series gives us a glimpse of the contrast between Joan's religious fervor and the army's more realistic assessment of battle strategy, but it is much more elaborately illustrated in the movie.

@InuYashaboy1992 2 жыл бұрын

La Hire joined the French army in 1418. He was never present at the Battle of Agincourt which took part 3 years before he joined the army.

@teviottilehurst Жыл бұрын

American foreigners acting French in American accents dissing my country, England, makes me 😂

@nigelcarren 5 жыл бұрын

If any man here does not think it plausible that a petite young French girl can raise an army then single-handedly take on and defeat the might of England, then that man has obviously not witnessed his French girlfriend find 3 text messages from another woman on his mobile phone! That is all I have to say on the matter... Vive la France!

@ToreDL87 4 жыл бұрын

Vive la Liberte, Vive la Entrangere, Vive la Resistance! .... VIVE LA RIEU

@leoncedeprez9364 6 жыл бұрын

On voit là une méconnaissance des conditions historiques dans ce téléfilm qui sacrifie aux clichés traditionnels du Moyen Âge. En fait il faisait beau ces journées de mai 1429....

@philippebaronBARON 3 жыл бұрын

je t aime bien lily elle fut une bonne jeanne d arc en 2000 dommage qu elle se soit dirige vers la peinture apres; jouer jeanne d arc en anglais c est une gageure surtout qu elle est a demi francaise et parfaitement bilingue

@philippebaron5360 2 жыл бұрын

le film a ete tourne en tchecoslovaquie et devait etre termine avant celui de besson; il est d ailleurs bien meilleur sobieski est plus credible que l hysterique jovovich;pour que le film soit termine a temps il fut tourne en plein hiver entre 1998 et 1999 d ou le fait que la plupart des scenes se passsent sous la neige comme la bataille d orleans qui eut lieu en mai 1429 et l execution de jeanne qui eut lieu le 30 mai 1431;ces inexactitudes historiques sont dues a des necessites de tournage

@ManCalledPokey 4 жыл бұрын

33:17 is exactly how I feel watching the acting in this.

@jacobisrael4413 4 жыл бұрын

I LOVE THIS JOAN OF ARC SHE SO GOOD THIS IS A GOOD ACTRESS

@GrandTA1 4 жыл бұрын

She should speak french. Her accent always remind of a urban drama.

@user-rl6tc2bb5k 5 жыл бұрын

That wild steam notification at 33:50 tho :D

@Canisestlupus 5 жыл бұрын

when you play total war and your friend starts cs:go xD

@aaak3590 4 жыл бұрын

lmfao i thought that was mine for a second i was like when tf did i add him.

@BlackCrowNavajo 4 жыл бұрын

that's exactly what you normally do - attack the city walls with your cavalry. And don't forget to put them in tight square formation so no arrow of the defenders is used in vain.

@grahamblack1961 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your vast personal experience of medieval warfare with us, you must have won many battles in your time.

@BlackCrowNavajo 4 жыл бұрын

@@grahamblack1961 The "vast personal experience" you refer to comes from 30+ years of work on military history of Europe. Professionally. But in general, your sardonic comment was right - I didn't live in medieval times. Neither did the movie-makers, in case you didn't realize that.

@grahamblack1961 4 жыл бұрын

@@BlackCrowNavajo 30 years +, ha ha, yeah sure. That's why you waste time on youtube comments.

@Sandouras 3 жыл бұрын

@@grahamblack1961 You're a fucking dick.

@alexandermarquardt597 Жыл бұрын

@@grahamblack1961 no hate, but: he is right. You are wrong. Sometimes it is smarter to admit that....

@kratzburstehannahmariemonr1823 3 жыл бұрын

Das Mädchen ist der absolute Wahnsinn Respekt

@GO-zh8if 6 жыл бұрын

Amazing girl.. Mysterious... A saint knight.. Even I don't have a religion though. It was a real history. That makes me excited.

@dunruden9720 6 жыл бұрын

...or boy? According to official records, he/she was a hermaphrodite.

@felix25ize 6 жыл бұрын

She was not a knight, she was a saint who inspired the knights. She never did hit anyone with a sword or any arm.

@tarkus2455 4 жыл бұрын

What official records? Why do people cite non-existent books?

@Kolchak_Enjoyer 3 жыл бұрын

@@dunruden9720 nay

@jesterofspades3903 2 жыл бұрын

@@tarkus2455 people wrote about it at the time ,people wrote poems and books there are many ways we know about this stuff

@AceKlassics 3 жыл бұрын

Man upon watching reminded me how superior the 1999 movie is in every. Single. Way.

@MaFo82 3 жыл бұрын

The Messengers main flaw which unfortunatly breaks immersion completely is the casting of the by that time world famous 24 year old Milla Jovovich as a 16 year old peasant. This movie is quite bad but atleast Leelee Sobieski matched the real Joan in age being 16-17 when it was filmed.

@DN-wq7nx 3 жыл бұрын

Which version is the best?!....this one, or the other one with milla jovovich?! What do U think guys?!...

@CatonaWall175 5 жыл бұрын

Loved this movie.Very entertaining.

@PritamPandit90 3 жыл бұрын

May you tell me the name of this movie, I would be blessed if you tell me the name 🙏....

@CatonaWall175 3 жыл бұрын

@@PritamPandit90 ''Siege of Orléans-(Joan of Arc)''

@PritamPandit90 3 жыл бұрын

@@CatonaWall175 thanks, by the way I have downloaded it, it's a mini series released in 1999, and it's name is Joan of Arc mini series, lots of Love from India brother 🙏....

@CatonaWall175 3 жыл бұрын

@@PritamPandit90Thank you friend from a British brother.

@markalipao4868 6 жыл бұрын

Do you have the full version of this in english version?

@alexwithanx749 6 жыл бұрын

Yes but on CD

@davidwoodward9528 5 жыл бұрын

Mark Alipao Or better yet, in the Middle French of the time?

@201anon 5 жыл бұрын

She should have used her Noble Phantasm Eternalle Luminose

@viokassian6790 6 жыл бұрын

Хорошая девушка была эта Жана она воодушевила людей

@user-ye7ll1ds3i 4 жыл бұрын

The Best paouer favorite beautuful love you joan of ark forever so mats!!!

@catedenvers7894 4 жыл бұрын

Epic 👍

@FancyMcDancy 5 жыл бұрын

And did anyone else hear her say "OK" as she was looking at the plan of the Tourelles? Really!

@geoffedwards-tb4kp 4 жыл бұрын

There's a famous painting of joins entrance to Orleans.

@bijitswarangnarzary 5 жыл бұрын

What is the use of cavalry in fort assault.

@juspoyad3467 5 жыл бұрын

Good

@MegaGary1960 5 жыл бұрын

Joan of Arc burnt at the stake 30th may 1431 aged 19

@user-jx5ez5vc3z 4 жыл бұрын

Good war movie ever

@neerajshivalkar1641 6 жыл бұрын

is this part of movie?? or episode of TV series??

@jackm2585 24 күн бұрын

Joan of Arc is a 1999 Canadian two-part television miniseries

@massiveidiot3587 2 жыл бұрын

is that drama's name Joan of Arc?

@txorimorea3869 3 жыл бұрын

0:33 That cuirass is too flat, awful shape to deflect arrows aimed to the heart.

@FancyMcDancy 5 жыл бұрын

That arrowhead would not have penetrated mail armour. It would need to be a bodkin head.

@donatopompeosolito8692 3 жыл бұрын

Basile Cataldo la spada nella roccia ove era?

@MrZectbumo 4 жыл бұрын

Can see the camera rolling on the left at 20:25...

@jjw238 5 жыл бұрын

Top notch CGI right there.

@firstjedi2 3 жыл бұрын

0:20 it's funny because Joan actually wanted to attack the english castle at once, while their captains insist on taking the food and supplies first to Orleans, which they did and Joan was furious at them, the actual entrance and assault was done days later in better situation. Thankfully they constantly override her "tactic" decitions. Movies changing the history for the sake of audience.

@ninjaked1265 Жыл бұрын

Historians agree that she was very good at tactics when it came to artillery

@abdullahansari8759 4 жыл бұрын

Movie name plz

@francedd3865 5 жыл бұрын

VIVE LA FRANCE et notre dieu et les catholiques .

@davidmcintyre998 5 жыл бұрын

They knocked two of these out and both were pot boilers,fair battle scenes though and i do love films were we English are the bad ones,our actors are so good at making it real.

@sergioospina3034 4 жыл бұрын

Age of Empires 2 Campaign Joan of Arc

@erickaboagyell2670 4 жыл бұрын

Please is a series or movie, may I know the title?

@anime_sekai92 3 жыл бұрын

It’s Joan Of Arc miniseries

@erickaboagyell2670 3 жыл бұрын

Any link to download from

@protectorlnqcd2466 5 жыл бұрын

Pour le plaisir, et la tenue logique du scénario, c'est de loin le meilleur essai sur Jeanne d'Arc, avec un casting très équilibré et efficace; où Leelee Sobieski brille d'un feu divin et juvénile. JEANNE D'ARC (tvfilm) Réal : Christian dugay s:Michael alexander miller Ronald parker 1999 : Leelee sobieski (Jeanne) jacqueline bisset powers boothe neil patrick harris shirley maclaine peter strauss Peter Otool

@patrickvangelder1367 4 жыл бұрын

And ofcourse there is that reality, she WAS sent by The Most High, the God of Abraham, Isaak and Jacob.

@PpAirO5 5 жыл бұрын

What is the name of this movie ? Please !?!?

@panzerraven4135 5 жыл бұрын

Its a mini series called Joan of Ark

@PpAirO5 5 жыл бұрын

@@panzerraven4135.. Thanks 🙏

@colinp2238 5 жыл бұрын

@@panzerraven4135 No that was Noah, it's Arc

@panzerraven4135 5 жыл бұрын

@@colinp2238 Nice pun! I salute you for it 😂

@opqrst7 4 жыл бұрын

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@PritamPandit90 3 жыл бұрын

Movie name of this video, someone please tell me the name....

@jackm2585 24 күн бұрын

Joan of Arc is a 1999 Canadian two-part television miniseries

@rainolipponen 5 жыл бұрын

Lee Lee, most Beautiful girl in the Earth..

@francisverschuere3334 5 жыл бұрын

Dommage que le film ne soit pas en français

@deputy_commander7595 4 жыл бұрын

Correct me if i'm wrong, this actress age was around 15-16 years old for portraying Joan of Arc. And the real Joan of Arc was around 18-19 years old when she's executed. Well, the actress much younger than her real-life version.

@waltertaljaard1488 4 жыл бұрын

Get them!

@user-tz3ve9iy4r 5 жыл бұрын

Из какого это фильма?

@gabrielbalbec883 3 жыл бұрын

good question !

@tristanagullana6632 6 жыл бұрын

They can just block the arrows with using shieldss smh

@alainarchambault2331 5 жыл бұрын

Oh sure let's get inside under cover of darkness bearing lit torches. "HEY! WE'RE OVER HERE! SHOOT AT US!!"

@dariogalleposo9676 4 жыл бұрын

What is the name of the actress?

@alexwithanx749 4 жыл бұрын

Dario Galleposo Lelee Sobieski

@dariogalleposo9676 4 жыл бұрын

@@alexwithanx749 she is my idol since i Saw her.

@iceblazer8256 4 жыл бұрын

Uhh.. where Siegfried?

@aage3060 6 жыл бұрын

how did soldiers of that era were able to tell apart which is enemy and which is not. apparently english and french wear various non uniform armours unlike modern era with fixed uniforms

@AndreyAlcoforado 6 жыл бұрын

The soldiers used to wear their patreon colors, so knowing which side a lord was fighting for, they knew their enemies. Remember, this is just a movie so it isn't totally accurate ;)

@mizi3180 6 жыл бұрын

Heraldry

@cynderfan2233 6 жыл бұрын

Most of the time when infantry lines actually met each other it didn't turn into a massive melee like you see in most movies. It was usually just groups of men all moving in one direction and battering anything in their path aside. Basically if someone was standing next to you and facing in the same direction as you, then they were likely on your side. In the late middle ages you get the evolution of symbolism like the St George cross for the English, although that didn't really start until after Agincourt.

@davidwoodward9528 5 жыл бұрын

Aag E This is why standard bearers were important

@MaFo82 3 жыл бұрын

They wore heraldry (personal if knights or the lords livery if a peasant). They also fought in formation to keep the battles clean and not the disorganised mess we see in most movies.

@mauriceupton1474 5 жыл бұрын

Her own side betrayed her to the sassenachs (english) for torture.

@arcanos4167 4 жыл бұрын

19:40 Yeah you were charging straight at a castle with walls twice to thrice as tall as a grown man, manned by english longbowmen. The hell did you expect??? Geez nowadays movies make commanders throw away their men's lifes like a kid kicks over his lego buildings..

@Abdallah7_1 4 жыл бұрын

We did it , kicked the engluée outside , out of Europe ;) So ... 'let you go , go , alone

@Kolchak_Enjoyer 3 жыл бұрын

Cry cry! Brit

@roseschutte9317 Жыл бұрын

Well it is kind of important that troops get supplied… any officer knows that but they made her lio like a sap for saying this (misogyny… unfortunately even in my favorite well any intelligent officer knows that troops must be supplied… I wish she didn’t appear to be jLei Joen one of my favorite nigelcarren i Am glad that Joan of Arc was granted the ability to think she was worth more than what she would be in relation to how a man would view her as a wife and producer of children… although it is kind of sad she couldn’t have had at least a life partner who saw her as an equal. As a military officer it wouldn’t make sense for her to have children and I doubt that she wanted to be a mother anyway…she probably felt very honored to be able to fight life her country like men of her time were allowed to…. I also appreciate in this particular version of Joan of Arc she doesn’t appear to be a stupid little girl but understands if violent conflict can be avoided it should and is well aware war has atrocities but is brave enough and loves her suffering people enough to go to war

@gamefreak1754 5 жыл бұрын

the true goddess,Joan of Arc

@baranbarff9017 4 жыл бұрын

Love lili

@user-dz4su8jy2r 5 жыл бұрын

But the savior was burned for witch hunt at the end.

@loydintia4628 4 жыл бұрын

Lele rebieskie.the most beautiful face in Hollywood

@power2084 5 жыл бұрын

This version of the siege of Orléans makes no sense

@hgharjaqen7984 6 жыл бұрын

So perfect... the *Joan of Arc.*

@thomasthetiger 6 жыл бұрын

H'ghar Jaqen a girl has so many gifts.

@roseschutte9317 Жыл бұрын

She isn’t perfect the religious notion is misogynistic… of course it definitely seems that way now. Today Joan of Arc would be locked up and antipsychotics would be shoved down her throat for having sczio disorder. Also, today you don’t need ‘divine intervention’ to be a woman who is a military officer…. Every year Weat Point Military Academy accepts qualified females… their qualifications are just the same as the males: politicians recommendation, excellent academics, excellent standardized test scores, excelling to a very noticeable degree in at least one sport, et. - Lei Joen

@thijsjong 4 жыл бұрын

I dont get it. If you have a bombard/mortal why not keep shooting until you either runout of gunpowder/cannonalls or the thing breaks. Why just fire one shot? Why use mounted knights in a siege. It is not like horses scale ladders or stairs. Horses make ideal big soft targets. Why do 10% of men use shields. And half of the men using shield hold it up in the wrong direction. It is not like archers are the biggest threat to you men or something. Why are there men at arms standing at the base of the wall. Totally negating what walls are made for. 23:30 medic! 28:42 actually I'm gay. Thumbs up. It was entertaining enough.

@loulouchris1085 3 жыл бұрын

Ma reine 🇫🇷

@khanganbatekcham6593 6 жыл бұрын

name of the movie please

@morleyyan3414 6 жыл бұрын

Joan of Arc, Four hour TV. Miniseries.

@PritamPandit90 3 жыл бұрын

Vive la France....

@MrBurtur 6 жыл бұрын

Great film Film about how French are becoming the Nation

@TemplarX2 6 жыл бұрын

It's a myth. The king of England was an ethnic French too. He would have united France with England and moved his throne to Paris, making France a stronger nation. It was more like a civil war.The English were merely peasants fighting for a French nobility. It was a dynastic war. A lot of French provinces were allied to the Plantagenets. Plus Anjou not England was the ancestral land of the Plantagenets. This is why their empire is called the Angevin (or Anjou) empire.

@MrBurtur 6 жыл бұрын

Quetzalkoatl The origin of monarch does not play a role In most europian countries Royal dinasties foreign During the Hundred years war(or rather a series of wars) there was realization of the community of those who inhabited France and the opposition to those who came from British isles As for Jeanne d Ark ,as French say ,the national myth is national treasure

@francedd3865 5 жыл бұрын

C colonel it’s clovis our first king. We are the oldest nation of the world

@dominiquecharriere1285 5 жыл бұрын

@@francedd3865 technically France became a nation with Philippe Auguste, some 200 years before Jeanne. But not with Clovis or Charlemagne.

@davidwoodward9528 5 жыл бұрын

C colonel And spoke American English ahead of anyone in North America

@kingaragornii9940 6 жыл бұрын

Joan of arc is an awesome leader and the Feminist need to learn from her if they want to be equal to men. Instead of spouting crap which Infect our ladies.

@antonio_oliveira_wolski 4 жыл бұрын

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@karlkraus1840 5 жыл бұрын

I thought women back then had no legs

@robbiethepict2783 2 жыл бұрын

She did it with the Scots.

@eddiedeleon2425 3 жыл бұрын

i saw cross and fire

@LFGerm 5 ай бұрын

1948 Ingrid Bergman version of this is miles better - the Armours feel better, the Siege is better shot and choreographed, they even use cannons in the siege of Orleans (like in the historic depictions) ........just soo much better So sad that more recent movies are so badly researched and designed

@CommunistSpyware 5 жыл бұрын

Cheshire yeoman archers i tell ya

@tarkus2455 3 жыл бұрын

Though i also think the American accents are silly, you can't truly expect everyone in historical movies to speak the original languages. Do you watch a biblical movie and expect them to speak hebrew? Do you watch a movie about the Romans and expect them to speak Latin? Though this is French history, this isn't a French production, and if they had a French actress speaking English, people would complain about the accent being silly or something like that. There's plenty of things to complain about in this clip, and i think their accents are the least important problem.

@thierrylofoten4470 3 жыл бұрын

Leelee Sobieski is half-US by her mother, half french by her father. She speaks better french than many french people like me.

@Carbonitt 4 жыл бұрын

Мда... вот это сила "месячных", аж Францию освободила.

@pter7531 6 жыл бұрын

WTF, Joan of Arc speaking american. How low can it get.

@alexwithanx749 6 жыл бұрын

You prefer the film to be French with English substitles...Very well :)

@evallyntc3164 6 жыл бұрын

american? you mean english? right

@theredblurb132 5 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps middle French?

@YapsiePresents 5 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing she is polish

@colinp2238 5 жыл бұрын

@@alexwithanx749 Well she couls do the odd ow yoo say eet hee haw hee haw?

@TheSteveRobinson 6 жыл бұрын

If it wasn't for Joan, France would be English speaking today.

@jeffkodiac 6 жыл бұрын

Joan of Arc was not there at Cocherel , Pontvallain or at Chiset so what you say is a nonsense Of course she booset the final victory and was very important .

@davidwoodward9528 5 жыл бұрын

Steve Robinson They speak Modern French today, which would make no sense to a person of Joan's era.

@davidwoodward9528 5 жыл бұрын

Steve Robinson But - WHY are the French speaking English here??

@goofygrandlouis6296 3 жыл бұрын

English is already 1/3 French anyway ^^

@dongding4074 5 жыл бұрын

This is not Joan of Arc, this is Joan of Sobieski.

@felix25ize 6 жыл бұрын

St Joan of Ark had the spiritual gift of inspiring a total chastity to the men who were around her, though she was a beautiful young girl. But look at this actress ... hummm ...

@nadhiyababu4179 5 жыл бұрын

Joan of Arc iorn Lady

@jesterofspades3903 2 жыл бұрын

In reality she never came up with battlefield tactics and never fought personally in combat. She wasn’t some “great military mind of the time like this movie portrays her” she was more of a symbol she inspired the french to fight and that’s why she’s considered a hero

@franckdebzh7608 2 жыл бұрын

If she was never been in a battlefield, why and how she was captured ?

@jesterofspades3903 2 жыл бұрын

@@franckdebzh7608 because a group of Burgundian scouts captured her outside the town of compiegne, she wasn’t captured in battle. She was captured because she was still a leader of the french army and the Burgundians tried to ransom her (because her ransom was a lot) but the french never paid it.

@dragoncomosaics9282 4 жыл бұрын

Since she is useless in battlefield it make sence that she was given to her enemies so they could make little fire.

@crazymaniac1396 4 жыл бұрын

At that time she was considered a women not a child probably old for marriage too

@bratuadriandumitru5290 Жыл бұрын

Joan of Arc vs Russians

@clearben8661 5 жыл бұрын

cannon.... kidding me???

@firstjedi2 3 жыл бұрын

why kidding? cannon existed already

@LovingTinha 6 жыл бұрын

They marched with 4000 strong vs 500 and lost, and he wants us to feel sorry for them? Their intentions were clearly to do the same to the others what happened to them. It is just more embarrassing that they were beaten than anything else, can't try to elicit compassion when they had such a clear advantage and failed lmao, hard to feel sorry for them lmao

@bjornwilding2082 6 жыл бұрын

You do know that the English murdered a lot of their prisoners of war at agincourt? They thought that the French would attack from behind and didn't have enough guards, so they just murdered them, wich was, even in that dark time, considered a great crime.

@SerBallister 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornwilding2082 Those despicable English scamps, so how about the Oriflamme ?

@bjornwilding2082 4 жыл бұрын

@@SerBallister Don't get me wrong here, please. I'm on neither side here, just wanted to explain why there was the call "revenge for Agincourt", that is was not just because the French lost a battle. I think in every war there are crimes comitted by all sides taking part.

@SerBallister 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornwilding2082 At Agincourt the French signalled clearly they will be taking no prisoners, they had every intention of massacring every last English person there so it's unsurprising that the opposing side decided to do the same. It was also uncommon for smaller forces to take prisoners during battles as it takes man power you don't have to look after them. If you weren't a noble back then the chances of your being looked after by the enemy are slim to none.

@bjornwilding2082 4 жыл бұрын

@@SerBallister you are absolutely right here, noone would care for peasants. You can't sell them. I was speaking of the noble ones. I don't know about Signals the French did, I only know that even the english chronists were shocked after the Events. Plus I want to point out that I dislike this movie for portraiing the English as onedimensional evil morons. No words of the French plundering their own people in english territory