THE REAL WEAPON OF LÜ BU - - Han Dynasty Weapons -

THE REAL WEAPON OF LÜ BU - - Han Dynasty Weapons - - Ji 戟 Halberd by LK Chen

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In this video we take a brief look at "The Flying General" Lü Bu, the man, the myth, and the legends about him, and the actual weapon he may have used as compared to what we see in popular media and stories. We'll also talk about the Ji halberd of Han Dynasty China, it's departure from the bronze age Ge, and even cover some useful techniques with the pole arm halberd.
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@Intranetusa 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the story of Lu Bu fighting Guan Yu, LIu Bei, and ZHang Fei was only in the 14th century historical-fiction novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms and was not in the historical texts (eg. Records of the Three Kingdoms, Annotations to Records of the Three Kingdoms, etc) that dates closer to the timeperiod? Or was the story in both the novel and in the historical records?

@garagon31 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Library of Classics version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and if I recall that particular battle at Hu Lao Gate involved Hua Xiong and Sun Jian's forces. In the novel the Three Brothers swoop in to make the save, but historically Sun Jian's forces managed the win. Most of the duels in the story are likely apocryphal.

@Intranetusa 2 жыл бұрын

@@garagon31 Yeh, I know it's in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms (the novel). I'm asking about the Records of the Three Kingdoms (the historical text). Or by "novel" do you actually mean the records?

@garagon31 2 жыл бұрын

@@Intranetusa I should have clarified. The Library of Classics is a government sponsored academic work to translate Chinese classics into modern Pinyin and non-mandarin languages, and each book comes fully annotated. In the case of RotK the annotations frequently have historical accounts of the battles and characters.

@Intranetusa 2 жыл бұрын

@@garagon31 I see, so it basically has the historical records version of the story along side the historical-fiction version of the story in the Romance novel? That is very interesting.

@davidbarnwell_virtual_clas6729 2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't you effect the pull back slice by using your legs? Like, holding your arms still and elbows close in , then, skipping or shifting backward using your legs?

@bodyno3158 2 жыл бұрын

The first rule of surviving the Three Kingdoms era as a warlord is never accept Lu Bu as your adoptive son.

@f41th777 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂or ally, or friend, or anything in general.

@anthonymarr9758 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Sifu Kuttel, I'm a 78 year old Chinese Canadian who was born in China and have received some training in Karate and Praying Mantis Kung Fu - nothing to boast about, but enough to appreciate your expertise. I've been watching your videos since your were Si-hing Kuttel. I'm most impressed by your depth of knowledge in and your respectful attitude towards the Chinese culture. Keep up the great work!

@SifuKuttel 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your kind words! 🙏🙏🙏

@si-melamme7837 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for this video! There is some special grim beauty in how ingenious and brutal ji is, isn't it. It just feels so real and purposeful. I wouldn't even dream of seeing it any kind of action, it being such an old and not exactly well-known weapon, and here you are with such a treat.

@tea1255 Жыл бұрын

Out of all the weapons, I found Ji particularly fascinating. It is just so beautiful while at the same time dangerous to play with. :)

@ambulocetusnatans 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, cool video. Your Choy Li Fut works well with the Ji. It's a stroke of genius that LK Chen is reproducing these ancient weapons. A great smith with great ideas. I like this weapon, but the fact that it is tied to the shaft is a weakness in my opinion. If you blocked another weapon and it cut the cords, the Ji blade would come loose. I suspect that is one reason it was superceded by the Sha and the Qiang by the end of the Han.

@GoshinJutsuNL 2 жыл бұрын

A bonsoir Sifu 🙏🏼 Merci pour cette superbe vidéo très intéressante. Bon week-end et merci 🙏🏼

@Gigas0101 Жыл бұрын

With the parallel point sharpened as well as the perpendicular one, I imagine this weapon might have a lethal backswing if you miss the peck. Someone dodges out of the way of the point coming down, only to be caught by the long blade coming back up.

@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, can only watch parts of this as I catch it late at night, but gonna watch more tomorrow night :)

@DarkwarriorJ Жыл бұрын

The weapon is sharpened down the side opposite to the pecking blade - one thing that comes to mind with the Ji (as opposed to combination spear and ge) is: can that other side be used effectively for chopping attacks? It looks like it could be used for an effective chopping attack

@SifuKuttel Жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely. The only drawback is that it has some slack to move because of how it is tied on. A channel may have been carved into the pole to further secure the blade, but even then the chop has a limit once it hits the pole.

@KuddlesbergTheFirst Жыл бұрын

There could have been some finely crafted work from the Zhou to the Qi Dynasty or an older era. There had to be at least a rare case of gathering or using iron during the late Bronze Age. Some beyond average artists or crafters who were ahead of their time could have gotten creative. Making polearms or swords that would not be rivaled or recreated until the Song dynasty? Dong Zhou could have had access to well pressured treasures and relics before giving some of them to Lu Bu as a gift?

@weifan9533 2 жыл бұрын

Your video deserves more views

@shannonroberts8772 2 жыл бұрын

Super interesting, love the info

@gendoruwo6322 Жыл бұрын

zombie apocalypse vs Lu Bu. Lu Bu wins. no more zombies.

@ricflair4052 2 ай бұрын

16:52 that is if you block a Ji using a spear horizontally .. the Ji user will slide the Ji sideways with the pick axe part, you will lose your fingers. JI is also used for hooking and dismantling shield formations.

@gunh4129 2 ай бұрын

Ok, but what about Lu Bu's halberd in the novel of Romance of the Three Kingdoms? What does it do actually?

@Guven9000 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sifu!

@hanchiman Жыл бұрын

Actually, they did find Lu Bu grave and when they checked on his grave, found a normal generic looking spear from Han Dynasty, unlike in the novel where his weapon was a fancy looking "Ji" Spear.

@04phanthanhbinhjake9 5 ай бұрын

Where can i read this?

@hanchiman 5 ай бұрын

@@04phanthanhbinhjake9 it in Chinese documentary clips from CCTV channel.

@04phanthanhbinhjake9 5 ай бұрын

@@hanchiman please give me the link since i can't find it

@hanchiman 5 ай бұрын

@@04phanthanhbinhjake9 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLiqe7J7zL2oimw.htmlsi=FanN4PGnHc6ADTMH around 7min mark

@hanchiman 5 ай бұрын

@@04phanthanhbinhjake9 some argue that maybe his spear was stolen by Cao Cao men like in the novel

@Zoeynisblackgenesis 2 жыл бұрын

@Sifu Kuttel, I have been meaning to make a wooden or plastic Ji head myself. How did you go about making your own? What kind of wood and tools did you use?

@SifuKuttel 2 жыл бұрын

I used beech wood strips and then cut them to shape. I ended up drilling and pinning them together with two dowels and wood glue. Besides the drill, I only used hand tools to cut and shape the wood. They hold together pretty well for light sparring, but I doubt they could handle full combat force. That would require a single piece rather than two pinned together.

@Zoeynisblackgenesis 2 жыл бұрын

@@SifuKuttel Thank you very much for your prompt and detailed reply :) I will try to make one of my own and let you know how it goes!

@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel 2 жыл бұрын

I think the pulling back ("Sheer" or how do you spell that? Never heard the term) would still be quite effective and not require that much more skill, as you'd have more resistance targetting a human body rather than a water bottle.

@SifuKuttel 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is definitely effective, but I would place it as secondary to pecking and spearing because of how quick those attacks can recover as compared to hooking and shearing.

@darrylviljoen6227 2 жыл бұрын

@@SifuKuttel Actually, I think that might not be completely accurate. I feel the pecking would be the least used option (the push cut just beating it, though they would be incidental strikes), at least for most users, for peasant militia for example. I saw a video by a youtuber, lindebeige, an archaeologist by profession, did a long musing on why he thinks some halberds have axe heads at an angle to the shaft rather than parallel. His thoughts are that it was to allow them to perform draw cut like the Ge and that they would use it as a return strike if they missed with the spear thrust. It would be effective in massed ranks and would be very easy to drill into untrained recruits. I also found a documentary on the Ge and the war chariot were they did some (mostly theatrical) tests with a bronze headed Ge. The pecks did very well, unsurprisingly, given the leverage of polearms. The push cuts were not very effective. But the draw cut was very effective, which makes sense to me biomechanically, as you can "sit" into the cut in a way you just can't with a push cut. Just my thoughts. Thanks for video, there just aren't any videos on the Ge or Ji ( the dagger-axe version). This is it really. The video is great, informative and practical with clear demonstrations, it was exactly what I was after. They are such fascinating and little know weapons. Pretty please make more videos about it, forms, techniques and maybe some light sparring.

@SifuKuttel 2 жыл бұрын

@@darrylviljoen6227 I'm right there with you actually. I've learned quite a lot about the weapon since making this video and exploring the different pole lengths for the weapon itself. I may have seen the Ge video you mentioned, but have not had a chance to watch the Lindy Beige video. I'm looking forward to it, thanks!

@darrylviljoen6227 2 жыл бұрын

@@SifuKuttel My pleasure. Another video he did with another youtuber, scholagadiatoria (i can't remember whose channel its on) that you might find interesting is the got so HEMA guys to do some sword vs spear sparing with some different setups, I thought it was fascinating.

@GradyGillis 2 жыл бұрын

Lu bu was a nasty character. He was, in his own way, as despicable as Cao cao. A skilled fighter, but you wouldn't want him marrying your daughter. I like your breakdown of techniques for using the Ji. So many possibilities of combinations.

@charlottewalnut3118 Жыл бұрын

I mean to be fair his reasoning for killing his first father or rather his first adoptive father was a very good bribe he then proceeded to actually bother going to save China by killing dong zhou and yes he tended to stab people in the back but so did literally every character in the entire book whose name wasn’t Liu Bei so yeah

@jframe9715 Жыл бұрын

@@charlottewalnut3118 Actually Liu Bei is the same he is not as honorable as the ROTK made he out to be.

@gendoruwo6322 Жыл бұрын

Lu Bu is 'base' evil. Cao Cao is complicated evil. Lu Bu's the kind of character who'd ruin himself in the end. Cao Cao on the other hand, is a character who makes Empires fall, or rise.

@alextan2465 7 ай бұрын

Perhaps we should also consider the likely fact that ji is used by soldiers standing side by side and perhaps not used in a one on one combat.

@SifuKuttel 7 ай бұрын

That was definitely the most common usage of the Ji 👍

@athallahhafidz7689 Жыл бұрын

What kind of wood are you using for that sparring weapon? It grasp my interest.

@SifuKuttel Жыл бұрын

I believe it is beechwood, but that’s only because it is most commonly available for me. It definitely cannot handle full power impact because of the pins, it’ll either pop out of the hole or tear out of the side… so I only do light/med sparring with it.

@athallahhafidz7689 Жыл бұрын

@@SifuKuttel I see, that would be make sense. Then, what is your suggestion for us that wanted to practice mid-high impact weapon sparring, Sifu?

@SifuKuttel Жыл бұрын

@@athallahhafidz7689 If you want to go full power, you’ll either need to use a thicker wood, or use their actual blade, making sure it is dulled and with proper safety equipment.

@simpleviewer1334 Жыл бұрын

The full story of Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu was that a man promised Lu Bu that he could mary his daughter at some point but did the exact same thing to Dong Zhuo and so smitten he almost took her as his concubine immediately, when Lu Bu heard of this, he ran Dong Zhuo in with his weapon

@user-mp6pb9zh3s 9 ай бұрын

Lu Bu is very strong as a warrior but unfortunately not with his brain. Cao Cao, who had the most great generals, even rejected him because of two betrayals and accepted Zhang Liao under his command

@ektran4205 Ай бұрын

steel ji

@brokeheartwolf3733 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏☯️🦄🦉

@iyangmridwanmuchoy2155 Жыл бұрын

Build another one for sky halberd hahah,.not with pike,.

@ultimatebearbeast Жыл бұрын

I still think it's being shaped the wrong way.

@stephenbachman132 Ай бұрын

6:26 you are aware they unearthed Lu Bu's grave an remains. Apparently his spear found with him was not a unique weapon just a standard infantry weapon for the time. As the videos off the dig are hard to follow an poor quality an short. I cannot say for certain what kind of weapon was buried with him. They didn't even show his remains as i wanted to know how tall he was. Look it up man. Its real an exists.

@SifuKuttel Ай бұрын

That’s very interesting! I’ll check it out for sure. It’s no surprise that he’d have a common weapon, and the basis of this video was to show that if he did carry a halberd like the stories say, it wouldn’t have been extravagant, rather a common version of the weapon.

@stephenbachman132 Ай бұрын

@@SifuKuttel best video I can find is Lv Bu's excervated. It has subtitles

@emberbreak2172 2 жыл бұрын

just going to appreatiate that this video has 69 likes, nice!

@SifuKuttel 2 жыл бұрын

nice

@emberbreak2172 2 жыл бұрын

@@SifuKuttel how're you doing today Sifu 🙏☯️☺️

@SifuKuttel 2 жыл бұрын

@@emberbreak2172 Good thanks!!!

@Ilus-Mirror Ай бұрын

|> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> I don't think it was fixed in that way because the axebkade would easily cut it and boing ... That was deffantly no cord. Wire, or rings maybe. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |>

@ricflair4052 2 ай бұрын

this is the history of Ji and usage. This is how you lose your fingers. 16:52 ?v=hR4a7uwc5QU