That line and the military arms video from 3:00 to 4:00 was the only part of this video that was worth watching. Look how long the filler is the first minute to the last 3:30. What was the point?

I'm sorry to hear about yours as well. I haven't heard nearly as many complaints about the XL as I have the standard. Mrs. Country has an XL and we both like it. It hasn't seen nearly as many rounds as this gun, but no issues so far. I hope things stay that way, but if they don't I'll make sure to make a video about it.

That's cool, man. I'm glad they're working well for you. I really want to have the option to carry this one, which is why this bummed me out so much.

My point exactly! I want a Hellcat so bad I can taste it...but back to the point at hand, that's why I focused on this gun so much more than others. I REQUIRE reliability in a gun that I may carry for defensive purposes. To me, that's a non negotiable point. I'm glad your Hellcat is running well for you. If my standard 365 after warrantee work ends up being reliable, I'd love to compare the two platforms and see which one I like better, so your experience bodes well for that video (series?). Thank you for the comment and the info!

It’s nice to test out different types of bullets with your carry gun I was thinking about buyin the hell cat

It's the angle the sig grip has for me. If any other company would angle the grip in that way I would be all over it.

I personally don't prefer such a vertical grip. I feel the same about Berettas, but I like many Berettas so I just deal with the grip angle.

Same here. My Hellcat has been flawless. Actually both my wife's and mine have been flawless.

That's awesome to hear. I'm glad it's working well for you so far. I had high hopes until around the 700 round mark when this happened. That's why I set the 1000 rd failure free minimum when I bought mine, because I had heard of issues popping up at higher than average round counts. I hope yours never gives you so much as a bad draw from concealment.

I honestly don't know, and I think that depends on the gun, the mags, and the ammo. I personally check my defensive guns every time I pull them out of the safe. Whether I'm carrying them, bringing them along in a vehicle, or just putting them next to the bed I always check the chamber, any safeties, optics, lights, and mags. Part of my mag check is to slap the back of the mag to make sure all the rounds are as far to the rear as possible to give the gun the best chance of cycling properly. That being said, I've never noticed a failure due to ammo getting jossled a bit forward, and I even have some guns that will pull rounds forward in the mag as they're cycling and they still run fine even then.

Good to know, Jason. Since they changed the extractor geometry, which forced them to change the milling on the slide as well, I'm hoping my gun with those 2 replacements will work perfectly from now on. I guess we'll see once we don't have to take out a second mortgage just to buy 9mm lol.

Thanks, Paul. I'm happy to hear that yours has had no issues. It's such a great design that you can't not love it if it's reliable! Thank you for sharing your experiences. I'm sure the rest of the audience will be happy to hear about them as well.

I've tested many P365 over the two years, all of them have had a small to major issue. The G43x or Hellcat are far better. My old 43 hit over 50K rounds without gun related failures.

I have a sneaking suspicion it's a weak extractor spring coupled with the particular version (summer 2018) of extractor I have. Stay tuned, I have another video coming soon that you'll be interested in.

That's a whole hodge podge of weird issues. I don't typically clean my guns before firing them. I'll check the bore for obstructions or machine marks and look the parts over to make sure nothing is broken or wonky looking. I don't even usually add lube to dry guns right out of the box. I want to see how it'll perform as it's sold to the consumer before I start doing anything, but that's just my methodology. I definitely don't think it's a bad idea to give a gun a thorough cleaning out of the box.

I didn’t and I’ve now ran 800 rounds through mine. No cleaning, straight from the store.

Thank you for your kind words.

What new extractor spring you used? I just streched mine with pliers and filed a little an extractor where it contact the slide. No issues since. But still is better to use undamaged parts.

I've only ever had Sig factory parts in that gun. I've sent it back twice and the first time they replaced the extractor and slide. I don't remember if they replaced the extractor spring, but it wouldn't surprise me given that they replaced 2 other major parts that required removal of the spring.

After every range session. And I put less than 100 rounds through it that day before the failure.

Thank you for the comment! Please keep us updated on how your gun performs going forward. I have my personal opinions, but I'm very interested in how a newer made gun fares. Also, keep watching the channel, because there's a new video coming in the next few weeks about my 365 and I think you'll find it very interesting.

Call sig customer service let them know they'll fix the issue or send you a new gun no questions asked

I already called them once over this gun (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLZzfpaI1L7Sd6M.html) and the first rep I talked to basically blamed me, saying essentially that I shouldn't expect the gun to be reliable until I had at least 1000 rounds of premium (aka expensive) defensive ammo through it as a break in period, which I don't think any modern firearm should require. The second time I called, they created an RMA and a shipping label for me (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb-JfrNjpqiul5s.html). I showed the slip documenting the work they performed in this video, and I had this issue after that warrantee work. I'm still willing to give the gun and Sig a chance, but I don't feel like going through that whole ordeal again and spending my money on today's ammo prices to most likely run into another problem with the gun. If Sig wants to change my mind on this gun, I would love to chat with them and discuss what that process looks like and I would do so open mindedly and give the gun another fair shake.

@@countryboyguns A thousand rounds for break-in is a bit extreme. Most guns are nicely broken in between 200 and 500 rounds. When the service rep starts blaming the customer it's time to find a new brand.

My thoughts as well

It definitely can. I've never seen a malfunction on a handgun come from putting pressure on the side of the slide (with the thumbs for example) except maybe on a .22. I have seen (and experienced) malfunctions from part of the hand getting in the way of the rearward motion of the slide from the back of the gun however. That's why people with larger hands tend to prefer beavertails on the rear of their handguns. Great question!

I'm glad your copy is working great for you, Hector. Thank you for the info! That's super helpful in establishing a timeline for when Sig finally figured out how to make the gun reliable.

Wow, that's interesting! And yes, I have a few more videos on my 365 and the progress it's made if you're interested. I even have a dedicated 365 playlist.

I have a few update videos posted after this one. If you go to my channel I actually have an entire playlist on the 365 to make them easy to find. Make sure you're subscribed because I'm working on another one right now.

I'm sorry to hear that. I recommend sending it back to Sig, but I can't even get enough ammo right now to test mine post-warrantee work to be about to guarantee it'll run right. Hopefully you can get yours running well soon or get rid of it in favor of something else.

I commented on his other video too it pisses me off man sorry guys sig is usually good from what I’ve heard

I hope they take care of your issue quickly and permanently. I'm really hoping they fixed mine once and for all.

I'm sorry to hear that. I honestly don't have any experience with the Zev slides, nor have I heard any stories from anyone else until now. This is interesting, I really hope the spring replacement fixes the problem. Either way, please keep us updated so we can all learn.

I'm really sorry to hear that. I definitely recommend sending it back to Sig. I always recommend giving the manufacturer a chance to fix the problem, as everyone can make a bad product from time to time. That's what I did the first time I had a problem. I've heard a ton of stories from "my gun is flawless" to stories like yours. I've even had mine try to spontaneously disassemble itself (newer video). Seems like this gun is either hit or miss (no pun intended) depending on which serial number you get. Please let us know what you decide to do and what your experience is going forward.

I honestly can't say. I only have the 1 example. If you're interested in my experience with mine, I have an entire playlist on this gun on my channel that will tell you the rest of the story on my 365. Here's the link: kzfaq.info/sun/PLJ0FQLgbxuLJko0UXXjI3_tKlBn7LyB2s

That's awesome. It's so interesting to hear how some guns have been great and some have had issues.

I honestly don't know. The gun does get much hotter much quicker for me than others in its size class. I don't know what your hand tolerance is for heat. For example, my wife can handle very hot food in the kitchen that burns me when she asks me to handle it. To be honest, I don't think the heat issue is something Sig would be able to fix. How much experience do you have with the smaller 9mm pistols? If guns like the Ruger LC9, Glock 43x, S&W Shield Plus, and Springfield Hellcat are drastically less hot in your experience, then the 365 may simply not be the right choice for you. If you have little experience with smaller pistols, then smaller guns just may not be the right choice for you. I'm sorry I can't give you a definitive answer. If you haven't really messed with smaller pistols, see if you can go to a range that rents them and try several types. If you have the same issue, then that may give you a better idea of what will and won't work for you.

Mine has been flawless (born on date Jan 2021). It was so good I bought my daughter one (born on date March or April 2021-can’t remember exactly since I am at work and can’t check the box.). Her gun has been taken to the range several times and has functioned flawlessly with HP and ball as well. The newest P365 guns are great guns. No primer drag, no failures to eject, no failures to feed, etc. I tear down and completely clean my gun after each use. I oil it properly. No worries. No problems.

did you send it back to sig? What did they do? Updates? I bought one today 11/01/2023 and failed to extract on the first round! Totally disappointed. I went to back to the dealer and they recommended I leave it cocked back for a while since the spring may be too tight. We shall see.

I did. Twice in fact, for 2 different reasons. I have a whole playlist on my channel with all of the videos on the 365s if you're interested in how the story goes. I've made a few update videos since this one.

@@jimb3093 yes sig fixed. I returned it right away after I called their CS line. Then last weekend one time the slide failed again. As of last Saturday it's around 170 rds.

Maybe so. I definitely prefer the trigger shoe on the XL to the curved standard trigger.

I guess it depends. I really want to buy an AK, but a decent one costs over $1K these days. I'd still shoot a ton of steel cased ammo through it. Maybe during an ammo shortage that's all you can find to train with. Maybe you decided to save up with a very inflexible budget to buy a quality gun and quality accessories for it but you can't afford quality ammo for training, so you get steel because it gives you more practice for the limited funds you can spend on ammo. My philosophy has changed on this over the years if I'm being honest. I used to have a hard line on not running steel cased ammo through anything except my commie guns. These days I still prefer brass for practice and nickel for defensive ammo, but I wouldn't have any issue with using steel case if that's all I can get my hands on. That being said, everyone is different and there is no "right" answer as far as I'm concerned.

@@countryboyguns Well to be fair all I've ever run in my AKs and 7.62x39 AR's is steel case... but that's basically the only option for that caliber as well. Brass is available, but theres no point in running it or paying that price. Also, the case taper is designed to release steel case without issue. Nobody should be shooting straight wall steel case in any firearm though. It's not soft enough to release correctly.

Here again, I tend to agree with you, but I also see exceptions to that thought process. I don't think using steel cased .45 acp or .38 special as bad depending on the circumstances. Training is training and getting 20% more live fire reps is significant, especially if money is a factor. And if someone is using steel cased ammo for defensive use because that's all they can afford or all they can find, then I can't fault them. If I had to choose between throwing a Glock 30 at a bad guy or firing a steel cased 230 grain .45 acp at them, I'd choose the crap ammo all day long. I definitely still prefer better ammo, even for practice or just for fun, but there is still value in having a cheap bang vs no bang when you pull the trigger.

The only thing I can recommend is to contact Sig and see if they'll do warrantee work on it.

This was the standard 365 for clarification. And yeah, I'm pretty certain they made changes to the gun after this one was made. It wasn't an ammo issue, as this was the same ammo I used for over 600 rounds in this gun with absolutely no issues prior to this. I think it just needs some of the new upgrades. Thanks for the comment! It's very appreciated.

I'm glad yours is working great and you and the wife both like it! That's really important. I'm curious what the date on yours is. Mine also gave no hints of failures up until this video. It was around the 700 round mark when this happened, which is why I personally decided not to carry it until I got it to at least 1K. And I'm the same way, I always clean my guns after every range trip. I didn't think you were implying that I didn't clean my guns enough, but I appreciate the clarification. Thanks for the comment and contributing to the conversation, Cody. Roll Tide!

@@countryboyguns 30 OCT 18

@@codynaler6644 so just a few months younger than mine. Interesting.

@@countryboyguns yeah. Supposedly, after July 2018 the trigger spring, firing pin, and other issuses had been resolved. The extractor issue seems to be very uncommon, but not relegated to the Pre-July 365s. Though, it is an easy enough issue to fix. Still, I think I'm gonna replace some things when I swap the frame with an XL. For $20 I'll just keep a spare extractor kit laying around.

I need to order a few spares as well, though from what I've seen lately on the Sig store, good luck catching them in stock lol.

There was a recall of the very first gen if I recall correctly. Not sure about other iterations.

I'm glad yours is working well for you so far. Mine did great until ~700rds with just 115 ball ammo. I had just heard enough horror stories that I wanted to get past 1000rds before I'd trust it. I hope yours keeps going strong and never has so much as a hiccup.

That sucks man. I'm sorry to hear that. I wonder why the safety is stuck...mine doesn't have a safety so I can't speak to that at all. I recommend sending it back to Sig for warrantee work. I hope they can get it running perfectly for you.

Thank you! Please let us know how your X model performs.

I can't honestly tell you that the newer guns don't have problems, since I don't have 1 to test. You can tell by the side of the box when the gun was made. I truly hope the new guns aren't as problematic as the older ones, and I know many people love and trust their guns from all across the production timeline. Based on my experiences and those of people I trust, I can't trust my life to mine at this time. If that ever changes, I'll definitely make a video about it.

@@countryboyguns TFBtv said in there video Sig received less by percentage for problems then something like the p226 I think was the model. Whatever that is supposed to mean. I will probably carry it. If I could find the 43x mos right now I would probably get it. Oh well. Thought the three 12 rounders was nice, xray sights. I'll see if it will be rock solid.

@@chrissinclair4442 I remember seeing that video. I can't speak to the numbers Sig has, and I'm fully aware that any company that makes any product of any kind can and will make bad ones at least occasionally. I'm not saying all the guns are bad. I'm just not comfortable with rolling the dice with my gun based on my experience and that of others I trust. I also can't tell you or anyone else that you won't have any problems. I really like the design and I want to be able to rely on mine. That's my goal and why I'll continue to test it. I just can't right now, so I put out the information so others like you can make an informed decision. I hope the one you're looking at is perfect in every way. And also, if I could get my grubby little mitts on a G43 MOS, Shield mags and extensions, and accessories, it would replace my G19 as my EDC. I want one of those things so bad I can taste it!

Great question, Ben! That is a fairly common experience with magazine fed guns across the board. Some guns will be worse about it than others. A great example of this is the most common manual of arms for loading an MP5 type platform. Because that design doesn't lock open on the last shot fired, the best practice, as I understand it, is to manually lock the bolt to the rear before inserting a fresh mag because it's very difficult to insert a full mag on a closed bolt. I also have the same issues with brand new AR mags, but it lessens as I use them more. My P365 also requires a bit of force on a full mag with the slide forward. If you insert the magazine quickly and with some...gusto...then pull on the baseplate to make sure it's seated, you should be fine. In fact, I had an issue a couple of times on this outing where the slide didn't lock open on an empty mag. I inserted a new mag before realizing that the slide was forward, but had no problems with them falling out of the gun. Long reply, I know, but the bottom line is that it just takes some practice. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have!

Country Boy Guns awesome and I appreciate the in-depth answer trying to learn as much as I can! Excited to take it out to the range tomorrow. This is gonna be my girls gun once she’s comfortable with it. Hopefully I can gain some wisdom by then so I make an informed decision for my edc. I subbed and will check out your other stuff I appreciate the help and insight.

Thank you for the sub, Ben. Just remember; everyone starts from zero. No one comes out of the womb a gun expert. With time and training, you'll be surprised how far you can get in a short amount of time. I know a lot of women carry the P365. However, just in case your lady friend ends up not liking it because it's too snappy or small for her, I recommend getting her to try the XL as a carry gun. For home or vehicle defense, I highly recommend a full size gun in 9mm (Glock 17/19/19X, S&W M&P9, etc). She may think it's too big at first, as a lot of new shooters (particularly women) tend to think bigger guns will recoil more, which is ALMOST never the case. One more piece of unsolicited advice: be patient and calm with her. Don't try to push any particular gun or item on her because it's what you think she should use. If she enjoys shooting, she'll keep doing it. And if she has a say in what her gear is (unless it's dangerous), she'll be much more invested in learning and training. That's the approach I've taken with Mrs. Country and it's working beautifully!

I totally get the ammo thing. I haven't been able to go to the range in far too long for the same reason. I got to around 700 rds before my issues and before then I really thought my gun was 100% good to go. I wish it hadn't proved me wrong.

That sucks man. I'm sorry to hear that. I would recommend calling Sig and sending it in for warrantee work.

I'm so sorry to hear that you're first gun has given you problems. I assure you that isn't a standard experience. I've only ever had a handful of guns give me issues out of the box and a few more on top of that have to go back to the factory for recalls even though they were working well for me. I definitely recommend calling Sig about your gun.

You're very welcome. I actually want to get a Shield Plus for Mrs. Country...and one for myself lol. To be totally fair to the 365 though, this isn't a 2021 gun and this was posted over a year ago. I don't have any experience with the most current versions coming out of the factory, so for all I know they run perfectly. I still wouldn't bet my life on one though given my experience with this one.

I honestly can't answer that for you. It could be ammo, possibly some debris in the striker channel, or maybe even something else. I wouldn't personally be very concerned about a single light strike on practice ammo. If it were me, I'd put another box or so of practice ammo through it and see what happens. Maybe even a mag of carry ammo if I was still unsure after that. At the end of the day, your personal comfort level with the gun is what's the most important.

You had a light primer strike with WWB, you aren't the first to say that. Just don't use Winchester White Box as carry ammo.

There are so many good guns out there. I'm assuming you want it for concealed carry? If you want a handgun for home defense, range fun, to keep in the vehicle, etc, I'd recommend a more full size handgun. For concealed carry, I can recommend the Sig P365XL, S&W Shield, Springfield XDs, and Glock 43 from experience. I would also feel comfortable with a Glock 43x or 48, Springfield Hellcat, or FN 503. I don't have any personal experience with any of those guns, so I can only say that I think they're good options based on what I know and what people I trust are saying about them. There are even other options as well, and this is all just staying in the same genre as the P365 if that's the kind of gun you're looking for. Great question. Thank you for the comment and for asking my opinion on the subject!

@@countryboyguns hey thanks for the reply. These are some great suggestions and I'm going to look into each one. I'm trying to adhere to Hawaii's very strict gun laws. "High Round Capacity Magazines" are illegal here so I need something that can hold 10 or less. I'm going to keep doing my research before I finally pull the trigger. Thanks again for a very informative video

Glad to help man. I didn't realize you had those kinds of restrictions to deal with. That sucks.

I'd recommend PF9SS, SS80, "MUP 1" or "MUP 247". Then you don't have to worry about your democrat slave owners (masters) or enforcing unjust "laws" that have non legal power or authority on yourself. (Of course, the bigger options are good too PF940 V2, PF940C, PF940SC, PF45, HMC9, GST-9 and the Strike 80.)

Please let us know how it runs for you. I hope it's flawless for thousands of rounds.

How's it going now???

I have a few (3 I think) update videos on the gun since this one. That being said, with ammo as it is, I haven't gotten to shoot it nearly as much as I want. It has only had 1 range session since this video (one of the aforementioned update videos) and it was very low round count. I promise every round I fire out of it going forward will be on camera until I'm satisfied that it's reliable or I end up giving up on it and I'll post updates along the way.

I’ve ran 1500 rds through my sig p365 so far,no malfunctions of any kind with all types of ammo.

That's great! I'm really happy that your gun has worked as expected! Hopefully all of them are running like that at this point coming out of the factory.

Here's the link to the video I made about that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb-JfrNjpqiul5s.htmlsi=BrErD9Hpfr-1D2QW

I really need to get my hands on a Hellcat for a side by side. I've gotten so many comments just like yours that I'm really curious.

@@countryboyguns Yeah I was really excited to try the gun out and the first two magazines gave me issues. Got the Hellcat in my hands and had zero issues. Based off that, I just can't trust my life with the Sig. Gonna go back and try them both again to see if that first time was a fluke, but fluke or not, I can't pull the Sig out in a life or death scenario and be like, "Hey, hold on - I need to fix this feed issues quick...okay, go."

Lol, I don't imagine the bad guy would be that patient haha.

I hope yours works perfectly for you. Please let us know either way how it goes.

@@countryboyguns will do!

We got an XL for Mrs. Country and it too has been fantastic so far. Though to be fair, it doesn't have a ton of rounds through it yet. Still, I expect it to work perfectly for the long haul.

I'm glad to hear that there are some of these guns that are running well. I've also experienced the slide lock issue on this and several other guns due to my grip. I don't hold that against a gun since the button is doing exactly what it's being told to do, even if I don't realize I'm telling it to. Thank you for the data point and the comment! Please keep us posted on the gun's progress.

@@countryboyguns - Yeah, the slide lock issue is not the fault of the gun for sure .. that's all me 😁 I personally love my P365 and believe it is perhaps the best EDC currently available, at least for a micro sized carry pistol. I have troubles concealing my P320-RXP XCompact except during winter months. I am not really very good at concealing, it's just my body type that makes it a little difficult. The P365 is easy though, it's so small. A larger firearm is definitely much easier to manufacture for reliability, as soon as you get this small it becomes difficult to achieve solid reliability. It's just the way it is. Nothing is perfect, but I believe the P365 is pretty darned good. I dislike some of the people out there that act as though Sig purposefully makes flawed firearms. There isn't a manufacturer on the planet that hasn't had issues with their firearms. Sig seems to address issues rapidly, as they should .. they have a vested interest in doing so. Overall I believe Sig Sauer is a solid and reputable manufacturer and I will continue to buy and use their products for many years to come. I am not wedded to Sig, I own many other firearms, but I use what works best for me as I believe everyone should. I do like many Sig products though. Keep up the great videos !!! .. always great to have good gun videos !!! .. and remember, "Shall Not Be Infringed" !!!

Thank you for the kind words. And agreed, any manufacturer can have issues. That's why I'm such a proponent of giving them the opportunity to fix your gun if that happens.

I'm sorry to hear you're having problems, but not surprised. If it still isn't functioning correctly next range session, I recommend sending it back to Sig. Hopefully that solves the problems. Either way, please keep us updated on the progress. Thank you for the data, it's important to keep up with the developments.

@@countryboyguns put 200 rounds through today. Federal ammo 115 and 124 grain no failures at all. Possibly an ammunition issue before or over the time keeping it loaded broke it in as well???? But yesh no problems loving it now

I'm glad to hear that. Maybe yours is good to go now, just make sure you trust it. Thank you for the update and I hope it keeps trucking on!

I'm so sorry to hear you've had these issues. I'm starting to think that the only thing the 365 brought to the table was the motivation it gave other companies to make small guns that carry more rounds. I recommend contacting Sig about your gun or, if you'd prefer, you could probably sell it easily in today's market.

@@countryboyguns Thanks. Yes, I’m debating both selling and giving Sig a call. If it wasn’t for the fact I’ve spent so much money on holsters, mags, and attachments I’d just sell it. So I’m inclined to see what can be done about it first. Can you recommend an online place for selling it or would you just sell locally?

Honestly, I've never sold a gun in my life, so I can't make any recommendations on that. I would definitely give Sig a call first so at the very least if you do end up selling it you know you've given the manufacturer the chance to make it right and you're not just pawning the problem off on someone else. That's just my opinion though, and it's worth exactly what you paid for it.

I'm sorry you're having so many issues. I hate hearing that. I have an entire playlist on this gun if you're interested. Thank you for the comment and I hope the video was helpful.

Great advice. I ended up having more than 1 type of issue with a few ammo types on this particular gun after this video. Thankfully, I got them on camera lol.

I'm glad you found the video helpful. And nice choice, I really want a Glock 43X MOS to replace/augment my 19.

@@countryboyguns I really love the grip on the 43X. I bought the American Flag limited edition one. The MOS will be nice since you can mount and optic on it.

My thoughts exactly, not to mention the new Streamlight light. I'm super excited about that.

I'm really sorry to hear that. We don't have a ton of rounds through our XL, but it hasn't had any issues so far. That being said, I don't currently trust it based on the standard 365's issues. I recommend contacting Sig, but whatever you end up deciding, please let us know how it goes moving forward.

I’m actually having a similar extractor issue with mine as of recent. I’m probably north of 900 rounds and was trouble free until now. I may try to replace the extractor to see it that helps.

I recommend sending it back to Sig. They ended up replacing my slide as well as the extractor. No extraction issues since then, though there have been other issues...

@@countryboyguns Ok, I’ll try that route. Thanks for the reply. 👍🏾

You're very welcome

I'm sorry to hear that, Jon. But that's exactly the quality control (or lack thereof) that is plaguing them.

Country Boy Guns I agree! But, I love the gun so much that I’m willing to pay the 90 for nitride. I’ll keep updates as what happens and then after shooting it couple k rounds. Sig says it’s gonna be a 6 week turn around so I got a long wait.

I love the gun too, or at least what it brings to the table if it's completely reliable. Please keep us updated on your gun.

Country Boy Guns sure will!

That sucks, I'm sorry to hear that. Was it new or used?

Dang man. I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't heard nearly as many problems from the XL. Mrs. Country's XL has been great for us so far, but we haven't put a lot of rounds through it yet either. I'd definitely recommend sending it back to Sig. I have a couple other videos on this gun talking about me sending it back and how that went. If you have any questions on how to go about starting that process, let me know. I'd be happy to help.

just bought a sig p320 and the first mag locked a live round in it and i cant get it out

Oh crap. I'm sorry about that. I'd ask if you tried shooting it out, but I don't know if I'd personally trust it enough to try if that happened to me. Have you called Sig?

@@countryboyguns my gun shop has lifetime warranty on anything they sell they are going to shoot it and deal with sig if it pops

That's pretty cool. I've never heard of any gun shop doing that! That's some great customer service.

The slide should definitely go into battery on a fully loaded mag. I do wonder if you might be riding the slide forward instead of pulling it all the way to the rear and releasing it, because that can cause a failure to feed on pretty much any semi auto. I'm also a big believer of carrying with a round chambered because of issues exactly like this one.

I wouldn't be mad about that lol. Glad to hear yours has been great.

My mags are pretty tight too. I haven't had any issues getting them to load to capacity or to seat on a closed slide, but I do need to give them a bit of extra umph. Might not be a bad idea to buy another mag before you reach out to them. If it's the same way, then it's probably not warrantee worthy. If the new mag gives you less trouble, then you'll have an extra and hopefully they can help you with the originals.

That could be the round like you said, or it could be the extractor, a burr in the lede or chamber, out of spec chamber, or a combination of those. I recommend calling Sig and pursuing warrantee work.

@@countryboyguns Thanks I will do that

That's awesome! It's so interesting that so many people have had wildly different experiences with their copies of the 365. Thank you for sharing your experience, and I'm glad your gun is rock solid!

So you've put over 4k rounds through it in less than 6 months!? Without a SINGLE issue? That round count seems high unless you're a professional reviewer or something like that. Just saying

@@dilldowschwagginz2674 that's exactly what I'm saying. Put 350 through it just yesterday! With ZERO FUCKING issues!!! I have had an issue with a 12 round"magazine"!!! Not the guns fault and that was just failure to stay locked open on last round. Not even a Sig mag!! Was a cheap Pro mag! So yeah I'll tell you again!!! 4350 rounds now with a Pro Mag issue!! Does that make you feel better??🤔

I keep a log of exactly what types of ammo I run through it! And exactly the round count! And have since I bought it just because of the issues Sig had been having in the early runs. I'd put this pistol up against any other gun I've ever owned! I also will turn 50 this year and live in South West Virginia. County born and raised shooting! This isn't my first Rodeo with shooting pistols! I don't get paid by Sig!!!! I'm a welder that just loves to shoot!! I don't review shit unless I'm over the top impressed by fuckin any GODDAMN thing!!!! I have better things to do with the little time I have not killing myself at work!!!!

Wow, thank you so much for sharing that. I obviously only have the 1 gun to inform my videos, but combining your experience with your 2 guns and all the comments and reports from others whose guns have had problems reinforces the idea that Sig has a QC problem and getting a good to go 365 is just luck of the draw.

The old sigs are the ones you want like the double action line. Now these new striker fire guns are garbage

Get a glock over the striker fire sig lines. Now glock over double action sig no I'm buying sig all the way

Or you can just do hk

@@Thoughtful8 I actually bought the Faxon Patriot

Well, I sent it back to Sig and they replaced the extractor, slide, and some other parts. Then there was another, completely different issue after that. If you're interested, I have an entire playlist on the channel chronicling my experiences with the 365 and XL.

I found it weird that mine was somewhere between 750-900 before I started having that issue. That being said in my case, Sig had made a generational change to the gun where they completely redesigned the extractor to the point they had to redesign the slide in order to fit the new extractor. And for reference for anyone reading the comments, I did not have a first generation version of the gun.

@@countryboyguns mine was made in 2021. I'd have to look at the box and see an exact date. I contacted sig late yesterday so hopefully I hear something Monday. My G19 is back to being my primary carry for the time being.

Opinions vary, but I recently bought a S&W Shield Plus to test. So far I like it, but I've only had 1 range session with it. I hear good things about the Springfield Hellcat but I don't have any personal experience with it. I recommend going to an indoor range that rents guns so you can try several and see what you like.

I don't have access to every gun, and the true definition of "concealable" differs from person to person based on body type and their sense of fashion and comfort. That means I can't give you a definite answer. For example, to me a Glock 17 is concealable and relatively comfortable. Many others would say that's not the case for them. Now if we remove the concealable part of the question, there are many guns of many sizes that are generally recognized as reliable. I've seen very very few reports of Glocks having issues. Same with Smith and Wesson and others. The list goes on and on. I hate to frame my answer like this, but I think you should first decide what size category you can feasibly conceal and are willing to carry all day, then start looking at tons of reviews of guns that fit that mold to get a wide spectrum of experiences and opinions about reliability. If you can, go to a range that rents the guns you're interested in and try them out. We live in a great time for the number of options we have for carry so we can be pickier about our carry guns. The downside is that it's harder to choose the one that fits our lifestyle and preferences because the "menu" has so many options and it's expensive to really narrow down what we really want.

If you're looking for a good starting point, I have experience with the Glock 17, 19, 26, and 43X as well as the Smith and Wesson M&P9 Compact, Shield, and Shield Plus. Those guns have been extremely reliable for me over many rounds and I trust them. I do occasionally carry other guns in my collection, but I don't trust them as much. Some of them have given me issues in the past and some I just don't have as much trigger time with. At the end of the day, a carry gun is a very personal choice. What you see/read/hear/watch online should be a starting point in your search for your carry gun but it should not be the sole deciding factor in what you choose to spend your money on to protect yourself with.

I can't say I'm surprised. I'm sorry to hear your gun isn't reliable. The good news is that according to my video and the comments section, you're in great company lol. But seriously, I've heard so much negative about this gun and it kills me. It's such a cool little package with so much potential that I want to love it. I recommend contacting Sig and sending it in. Hopefully they can get it running like a top for you.

@@countryboyguns I did swap the trigger to the sig flat version. I’m wondering if my hands took some of the grease off. I’m going to try to lube her up and see if there’s a difference. Otherwise I will send it back.. bought new in the box from cabelas.. they shouldn’t have these issues..

I wouldn't think that running it dry would cause those problems. I've never had an issue with any of my centerfire handguns that was instantly solved with lube. I think ask the problems people have with these guns are either a design/engineering issue, poor quality control at the factory, or a combination of those. I hope they can get it running right for you.

@@countryboyguns turns out it’s the extractor spring. It’s putting too much pressure on the bullet when loaded. Just gunna send it to sig.

I'm not surprised. That was one of the many parts they replaced (including the entire slide) when I sent mine in.

I highly recommend doing exactly that. I really hope they get everything fixed and take care of you. Also, stay tuned. There's some more stuff in the works on my channel about that gun.

Thank u!! I sure will!

@@mariadimaggio6427 please let us know how the process goes with Sig and how the gun performs after you get it back from them.

@@countryboyguns thanks a bunch! I will post an update!

Thank you for the sub! I don't have an exact round count because I bought the gun before I started the channel and, therefore, tracking such things. I know it's between 600-700 at least (if you go back and watch my "Testing the Sig P365" video, I put a more accurate, but still conservative round count throughout that video). I started with a conservative estimate when I made the earlier videos on the gun, as I was loosely tracking the round count on it because I knew the type had issues. From everything I'm hearing and what I understand, the 2019 and newer guns should be good to go. However, I can't guarantee that personally. I'm one of those guys that cleans his guns after every range session, so it was cleaned and lubed when I got out there that day. If you're concerned, I think that's totally justified. I personally have a requirement for 1K rds with 0 failures for this gun. Now that it had malfunctions, the counter has reset to 0. I recommend that same failsafe for you, but if you don't want to risk it, but still want something very similar to this, I recommend the P365XL. I've heard of none of the same issues with it, and Mrs. Country has one that has been great so far, admittedly with a much lower round count so far. I hope this helped your decision making process.

@@countryboyguns it did thank you for the very thorough and very quick response I appreciate that. Im going to try this model out that i am getting. Ill keep you posted what problems i find. Im no fan boy i currently carry an XDM and almost bought the HELLCAT but i decided for this one.

You're very welcome. I want a Hellcat as well, but I also just like to collect guns. Please do keep us posted on your gun. I hope my suspicions about the newer guns being good to go are true and you don't have any problems with yours.

That's really upsetting to hear, especially with it being a brand new made gun. On top of it, you were actually able to find one during the shortage and paid shortage prices for it. Sig needs to get their ish together with this gun.

@@countryboyguns so I have an update. After running 150 rounds of fmj's through it today with no malfunctions I was able to run 20 rounds each of both of my carry ammo's through it with no issues. May e it's finally "broke in". It still concerns me that it had so many failures to return to battery out of the box. The issue APPEARS to be ironed out now but I still can't trust it as my edc until I am able to run a lot more ammo through it. I want to run 500 more fmj's and 100 more self defense rounds through it with no malfunctions before I start carrying it. Hopefully I can find enough ammo to be able to do that soon.

@@jamiecollett8840 I'm glad it seems those issues may have been resolved. I agree with your thoughts on running a lot more ammo before you trust it, however. I won't carry mine until I get 1000 issue free rounds through it. That's the standard I set when I bought it. Thank you for keeping us posted, and please continue to do so. I REALLY hope Sig has these issues figured out by now, but I was never very good at holding my breath.

I'm sorry to hear yet another story of an unreliable gun that's supposed to be a self defense piece. I will say that Sig made extensive changes to my gun once I sent it back to them and I'm hopeful that it's 100% reliable now. That being said, I haven't had the time or ammo to really ensure that it's fixed yet. I definitely trust my early production Shield, so I'm a fan of your choice there.

I'm glad yours have worked well. I'm really hoping that's our experience going forward with both my 365 and my wife's XL.

I'm really sorry to hear that. I've heard way too many negative stories about this gun and it really bothers me. Please let us know how the story progresses with your experience with Sig customer service and the gun post warrantee work.

I would love to see them make a Glock that accepts P365 mags, similar to how the single stack Mossberg pistol takes G43 mags.

@deucedeuce22oz i sure hope so

They have had major extraction problems on the military models as well!

Thank you for sharing that. I'm sorry you had the problem, but if it's happening to me and you, it's likely happening to others as well. It's good to have data. I will say, I sent mine back and they replaced the extractor and slide. It seemed to fix the problem, at least until this happened: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsWPqqd53s2yl6M.html I have a whole playlist just on this gun, so feel free to peruse those videos as well and stay tuned...there may be a new chapter on this gun soon.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Was it brand new? I get so many comments about this gun being unreliable and it bothers me that the problems still exist after the gun has been on the market for so long.

@@countryboyguns yes factory new out of the box gave it a good clean after the first session and I’ll try some different rounds next time and if it persists I’ll have to send it back

Mine has been back to the factory twice already. I have a whole playlist on this gun if you're interested in the saga. Lots of those videos have comments from viewers who had a litany of problems with their guns.

Thank you, Adam. I've heard of isn't others who had our same issue as well. I did end up sending it back in (after some gnashing of teeth) and I've gotten exactly one short range trip out of it since. I'm going to continue testing it once ammo becomes available and affordable again, so stay tuned for the Paul Harvey version! Also, how do you like your Hellcat? I want one of those as well, both for the collection and to compare with the 365.

@@countryboyguns great hopefully yours will work flawlessly, I really like my Hellcat just not fond of the name Lol ,I carry it in my front pocket in a sticky holster I’ve really enjoyed it so far

@@Adam_Newman I hope so too. I definitely can't trust it right now though. It's actually the only handgun I own that isn't loaded right now for that reason. I'm glad to hear you like the Hellcat. I've heard lots of good things about it.

@@Adam_Newman I wish they designed the firing pin (striker) on the P365 like the bladed striker on the Hellcat. Always wonder why most gun companies don't make them all like that. Seems like a much more durable and reliable option.

The hellcat is a piece of garbage

I've gotten that a lot. Stay tuned for an update coming soon on this gun.

Well, my gold ole glock 26 gen 5 failed to feed/extract then dead trigger. I've been shooting over 15 years and am not new to the gun world. So...yeah.

I'm glad to hear your Hellcat is working great! A friend of mine just got one, and I'm really interested in getting one as well.

It looks like we’re in the same boat. My sig is not working properly but my hellcat is performing without a hitch.

I want one of those SO bad.