Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 DN OS Sport | Definitive Review
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Intro
1:35 - Comparison to Sony and Tamron
5:33 Build and Handling
14:48 - Focus Action
21:41 Image Quality Breakdown
33:42 Conclusion and Pricing
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@e3446 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting out in the rain and giving us a definitive review, that is dedication. Liked and subscribed.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
LOL - thanks!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Sigma increased the price in the US market to $1499 USD at the last minute - my remarks in the video reflect the price we were told during the evaluation period.
@TTWGD3 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been a better price haha
@luischvz1 2 жыл бұрын
THIS is the review I needed. Thank you!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help out.
@wawanbalik 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review as usual Dustin!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@pankajvermacs 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Dustin. And I am happy for options. I planned to buy a super tele-photo later this year and happy that now I have three options to chose from.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@erikpapp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very detailed and professional review.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
@mitchellweitzman9329 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review as always, Dustin. Did you have a chance to look back at old files of EF mount-sony adapated Sigmas 150-600 for comparisons with this one to see if there is an improvement in the new native Sigma glass verse the older adapted stuff?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
My testing methods (and resolution of bodies) have changed, but there is an obvious improvement in the MTF charts comparing the new lenses to older ones.
@Sayanmondalncbs 2 жыл бұрын
The best review of this lens on the Internet, and I have watched (or read) more than 20!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - that's impressive.
@davidlewis5929 2 жыл бұрын
These are always such great reviews.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SerielThriller 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Dustin, fantastic review.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@markrhodes5474 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant in-depth review
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@bobmendoza4691 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent detailed review!!!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@Mr09260 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Dustin >> When are you going to do any Video on the Current Nikon Lenses or any Nikon Product for that matter??
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I have no plans to review Nikon products. I never have, really
@JMKDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Which one would you recommend between this sigma and the 150-500mm Tamron for sport, landscape, and wildlife photography?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the autofocus performance a little better from the Tamron (and the smaller form factor), though the Sigma has the bigger zoom range and a slightly faster aperture. There’s not really a bad choice there - choose which one you like better.
@TechVidGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting about the teleconverter restriction from Sony. This is the first time I have heard this.. I was under the impression they were on the way from Sigma and Tamron. That definitely impacts my buying decision. Thanks for sharing Dustin! Great review as usual!!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Status quo could change in the future, but that is the reality right now.
@richrollin4867 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it relates to my suggestion on a previous video, but I'm pleased to see that you've added a note to the centre of your IQ test board. Great review as always.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that from a few people, and, since it made sense, I’ve adopted it. I get many suggestions, but only follow those that are actual improvements :)
@richrollin4867 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I have another suggestion for checking edge resolution at wide apertures. I suggest comparing IQ when focused on the centre to when focused on the edge. This provides an indication of the degree to which IQ degradation is the result of field curvature. Useful info for people who frequently place their subjects off-centre, and then focus on that position - focus and re-compose is a thing of the past thanks to mirrorless cameras. Also, IQ falloff which turns out to be the result of field curvature is less likely to be an issue at longer focal distances - which is useful info for people who tend to shoot subjects which are further away. Other than that - perfect!
@Algerie.Football.Officiel 2 жыл бұрын
Hello , I hesitate between the Sony mount and the panasonic mount .... I have a sony A7 M3 and a panasonic S1R, which mount you will choose for sports photos at night, but with good lighting ... Thank you
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar enough with the performance of the Panasonic to give you an informed opinion. I would choose whichever has the best AF system and tracking capabilities.
@aroundfloridaandbeyond376 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Really thinking about this lens. Question, what is the little tabletop tripod you are using for the Sony?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
@shang-hsienyang1284 2 жыл бұрын
I applaud you for actually testing the Sports lens with actual action photography.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I take it other reviewers didn’t do that.
@shang-hsienyang1284 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I am quite disappointed about a reviewer from a popular channel who tested this "Sports" lens by focusing on a tree log, and tested image quality by shooting a non-flat fences. In the end I have attained no useful information.
@xpynuker 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dustin!! What are your thoughts on sharpness of Sigma vs Tamron cropped to 600m at longer/real world distances?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That will really depend on the camera. A high resolution camera will punish that crop less, obviously. The Tamron is comparatively sharper than the Sigma (at least in the two copies I tested)
@richrollin4867 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Surely cropping on a high resolution sensor will produce better results. Yes, viewed at 100% a high resolution sensor reveals lens imperfections, but viewed globally (normalised print size), the higher resolution crop should yield better results.
@neilvigdor5683 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, as always Dustin. How do the images compare to the Sigma 100-400mm? I have that lens and am trying to decide whether to trade it in and apply some of $ that to the 150-600mm
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Both lenses are more similar than different optically. The longer lens can give you slightly more dramatic shots.
@surfnsocal 2 жыл бұрын
In the same boat- I love the 100-400mm, but when shooting action (surfing mainly from the beach) the AF is lacking. I too am considering moving to the 150-600mm for better reach and (hopefully) better AF.
@nosignal7156 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dustin. A question about that big bag that comes with the lens. If you removed the lens hood and mounted a Sony APS-C body to the Sigma lens, would the bag be big enough for the lens + body?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good question. I’m on the road and unable to test that right now, but I suspect if you removed a foam insert, you could probably make that work.
@MBrady1970 2 жыл бұрын
the bokeh on this lens looks gorgeous and your right, its great to have the choice :)
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
The bokeh is quite nice on it, for sure.
@elastvd7503 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Great review ! now i can’t decide which one to go : tamron or sigma ( sharpness vs longer range)
@minusinfinity6974 2 жыл бұрын
Sony 200-600 end of story.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
It is a challenging decision. I have a few videos comparing the three options that you may want to check out.
@elastvd7503 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you
@edkight6447 2 жыл бұрын
Your gear reviews are the best I've seen Dustin. I'm considering Tamron 100-500mm. Not sure this has changed my mind. I'm concerned a lot of lens tests are using A1. The best possible autofocus. For the rest of us who can't afford $6500 body, how much drop off with other Sony bodies. I only have A6400 crop in e-mount now. All my full frame bodies are A Mount. Anyway to know if the Sigma or the Tamron will continuous auto focus significantly slower or struggle ?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed, the reality is that there are always variables for reviewers. Many of us use Sony’s best bodies because (in part) Sony will only consider you for early loaners if you have one of the newer bodies that will allow their gear to be reviewed in the most favourable conditions. I do own the a6400 and a6600, though, and I’ll try to take a few shots and see how it works before sending the lens back.
@pankajvermacs 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I'll also wait for your comments regarding that.
@edkight6447 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for your reply. Looking forward to that.
@rsadeghian 2 жыл бұрын
So I have the Sony 100-400 which is lighter and smaller than 200-600 and sigma 150-600 or tamron 150-500. With my a7riv especially in apsc mode, 26mp, it gives me the 150-600 focal length. What would be the advantage of getting either of these then? ( I don't think I would need beyond 600mm)
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Very little if you don’t want the additional reach. Sometimes you just need to buy according to your own personal need.
@rasecroel2366 2 жыл бұрын
Great video... Do you know what mount do I need to mount it on a Nikon D850?.. Thanks
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this lens is only available for Sony and Leica, and it's not designed for DSLRs like your D850 at all.
@AbhinavanandSingh 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best (and the most handsome) photographers ever!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Well thank you all around :)
@michap.2045 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Dustin! What do you think about this lens for a6300? I've got the Sony 70-350, but I could use some extra reach for wild animals...
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I would personally upgrade your camera first. An a6400 or a6600 has a much more robust focus system, and I think you’ll find that makes a huge difference if you add even longer lenses into the equation.
@michap.2045 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank You for the reply Dustin. For now it would be a problem to purchase the Sigma lens and also a new body. But I'm thinking about the a6600 in the future, the IBIS and bigger batery are really a great advantage for me. I'm wondering if this lens isn't a little too big and heavy for a small apsc body.
@jasona2305 2 жыл бұрын
So the transition from f/5 to f/6.3 occurs at 297mm. IQ-wise the Sigma is a tad better at the lower end of the FL compared to the Sony and the opposite occurs at the higher end of the FL. The f/5 vs f/5.6 advantage of the Sigma isn't really noticeable. Despite having bought my Sony just under 6 months ago, I ve got no regrets after watching your review. Both seem to be great lenses and it seems its really a case of portability vs internal zoom vs AF performance (which may improve with a future firmware from Sigma). Oh...and price of course! Many thanks as always for a great review. Next, I m hoping for another rumour to be true - a new GM Macro lens. The already exceptional 90mm could see some improvement in the IQ area (vs the Sigma 105mm + Voigtlander 110mm) whilst retaining all the other features that made it so popular. I m sure if that rumour becomes reality, you ll be able to make yet another macro runner up review!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
The Sony remains the class leader, I think, but having genuine alternatives is great.
@gautammukherjee5972 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Excellent Review as usual coming from Dustin... I am seriously considering a long lens for my Sony A7RIII... wondering if Sigma actually got an firmware update in last 6 months after its launch... any suggestions since I already own a Simga 14-24mm f2.8 & Sony 24-105 f4 & I am mostly into Landscape photography with occasional bird photography...Thanks!!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't checked in to see if there is a firmware update, but, outside of the Sony 200-600G, this remains one of the best options for bird photography.
@gautammukherjee5972 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your quick response Dustin...I always find your reviews the best in industry, in-depth & unbiased...I think keeping the price & form size difference in mind...I will settle for Sigma 150 600 DG DN OS Sport Lens which I hope will also work for my landscape photography 👍
@robertcudlipp3426 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review. No chocolates to Sony for limiting frame count from their higher specced bodies, though I suspect the purchasers of the "top" Sony FF bodies would only purchase GM glass + teleconverters. This is not a lens relevant my needs, but excellent to see Sigma still giving Sony body owners a more than viable option.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Choices are good.
@ManlyHK1 Жыл бұрын
Can this lens be used on a6400 APSC body to turn it into a 900mm?
@Thomasjcolbert82 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dustin, I have they R5 and rf800. I thought about getting a Sony set up for this Sigma or the G master for birding. Since I have no idea when this R7 (7D mirrorless brother) will be released. I just want a smaller set up. A6100 and this or the 6600. Not looking for FF for birding. Maybe that sorry A-1 C or whatever it’s called would work since it’s compact, but FF. What do you think about that idea? Or should I just save up and get the 100 to 500 RF. I’m just looking to get along with and most for the money. The 800 is nice but you really have to shoot at high ISO and it’s a pain not being able to zoom in and out. I also like having an internal zoom lens.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
If birding is your priority, going with something like this lens (or the 200-600 G) along with the a6600 isn't a bad idea. You could get both the a6600 and the Sigma for the price of the 100-500 (or fairly close).
@Thomasjcolbert82 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Hi Dustin, I primarily do like portraits and stuff like that which is why I have the R5 to begin with. But birding is something that I like to do and animals in general. And I kind of wanted a second set up so I don’t have to keep switching lenses off my R5. But that would mean I would want an R7 which doesn’t exist and 100 to 500. But like you were saying I think if I went with an a 6600 and a 200-600 G master or maybe this Sigma it would really be a nice set up. I don’t mind having 2 systems.
@orlangurs 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review! The autofocus test is the scariest one. Although I primarely plan to use a telephoto lens for birding, it still needs to have a good AF on moving subjects to get good landing or takeoff shots for example. I have Sigma 100-400 and it seems to make a fine job in these situations with a6600 and A7III (worse on older cameras though). Is AF really that bad here, worse than AF on Sigma 100-400 ? And, if so, how good is the chance they will improve its performance with firmware updates?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
If you are getting good results with the 100-400, then you should do just fine with the 150-600. It didn’t seem any worse to me. The 200-600 is just very, very good
@Stasiek_Zabojca 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I use Sigma 100-400 with a6300, which I bought used this winter. It does nice job on APS-C, but what's quite annoying is that is not that sharp at 400mm, and APS-C seems to make it even more visible :/ I'm dreaming about buying a7III and Sony 200-600 in the future.
@orlangurs 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI well, I'll rather go for Sony then. The price difference is not so extreme, as the one between 100-400 GM and 100-400 Sigma, but better sharpness, better AF quality, the possibility to use a TC and sometime in the future, if I'll go for a better camera body, to get a higher framerate in photo mode, mean a lot. Again, thank you for your honest and professional reviews! I still think it's better to test, rent lenses before buying yourself, to know, if they suit actual needs, but knowing what to expect and where to look is a big help.
@eastwind3550 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@donkeyholmes4581 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, at 25:35 you stopped the Tamron to f8 but left the Sigma at f5?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
If that’s true, it was an accident. My general observations are based on looking at all the images, however.
@donkeyholmes4581 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI it’s there on the video but I just wondered if you were showing that the Tamron had to go to f8 to catch up. Which it seemed to.
@DalsPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Dustin!!! it was raining and you are getting wet! You know? I would like to see a comparison with the same lens on a sony and on panasonic, it would be rather intersting! Thanks for this definitive review, I always really appreciate them! Blessings for you and the lovely family.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice thoughts, Daniela. I don’t own any Leica L mount cameras, so unfortunately that comparison won’t happen.
@DalsPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI you are so generous Dustin, always answering back! You can't imagine how much I do appreciate it! Best for this sunday!
@JohnPham2015 2 жыл бұрын
would be nice if you can compare this 150-600mm vs a 600mm F4 lens - is the zoom better or the prime better?
@TTWGD3 2 жыл бұрын
The prime will always be better at 600mm but it depends on your needs, a zoom is much better for flexibility
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Short answer - the prime is better. It also has a full stop and a third aperture advantage, meaning that you have better AF in more lighting conditions, can keep your ISO lower, and have more subject isolation. But for many people the prime is unaffordable, while the zoom can be afforded and is more flexible.
@hthamalainen 2 жыл бұрын
If you would have to consider only the optical quality of this Sigma versus the 150-500mm Tamron, which one would you prefer?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
The truth of the matter is that there is some give and take depending on where you compare them. The Tamron was slightly sharper at 500mm relative to the Sigma on the examples I tested, but the MTFs look very close between the two lenses.
@sabelli33 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao Dustin your videos are very interesting !! I would like to know what would you recommend between the Sigma 150/600 and the Sony 200/600 I want the best possible AF quality I have a Sony A7III I do not want blurry photos thanks
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Sony better for that.
@sabelli33 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you thank you very much
@rndbits8276 2 жыл бұрын
Bella is adorable, a very photogenic if not cooperative subject!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
She is that
@CrisURace Жыл бұрын
i would get this but there's no version for canon mirrorless cameras...i have the old Sports version and i have to adapt that. It's gonna be better anyway i think...coming from 5dmk3 dslr. Still waiting my r7 to test it.
@DustinAbbottTWI Жыл бұрын
So far Canon has not been open to Sigma development. This lens would be very welcome on the RF mount, I’m sure.
@sandboxaperture7013 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this review. I would buy this lens over the Sony and Tamron, had it not been for it softening as much as it did after 400mm. Really wish the sharpness held up across the entire range. I love the Tamron's sharpness as much as Sony's, but would prefer having the extra 100mm at the long end rather than 50mm at the short end. It seems like the Sony 200-600mm just can't quite be dethroned. It's as long, as sharp and as fast as any of the competitors, and it's competitors can't seem to package all of that in one lens like Sony has. I guess you just really get what you pay for at this focal length.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
The MTFs suggest the Sigma should very close to the Sony performance at 600mm, but I can only report on what I actually see.
@sandboxaperture7013 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI if somehow this turned out to be just a one off bad copy and future reviews show the Sigma being really close to Sonys at 600, then I'll jump on board with Sigma 100 percent. The cost savings would be just too good to pass up at that point
@TTWGD3 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandboxaperture7013 whenever at a crossroads, if you can afford it, rent both and see which one you get on with. What works for some does not always work for all. Be well
@ivailokaramanolev2160 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dustin, FYI Sigma doesn't have to reverse engineer the mount or AF algorithms - Sony E is an open mount and they're licensing the IP for the lens-camera communication. Whether their AF algorithms or motors are as good as Sony's is a separate question, but no reverse engineering coming into play.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you basing that information? I don’t think it is actually true. Tamron does get access to more native focus, but that’s because Sony has a stake in them.
@ivailokaramanolev2160 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I'm sure one can find other sources, but for example in www.sigma-global.com/en/news/2018/02/27/10713/ it says "Note: This product is developed, manufactured and sold based on the specifications of E-mount which was disclosed by Sony Corporation under the license agreement with Sony.". Given that it's the official Sigma site, it looks quite trustworthy.
@drail80s 5 ай бұрын
HI, just recently bought this lens two weeks ago. 150-600mm 1:5-6.3 DG DN 095 Sigma. You said (DN DG) first. Mine has a (O with a line through it). What lens do I have? New to photography). I also bought a Sony A7C to go with it. What type of Sigma lens do I have? Is the Sony camera good to go with it? I also bought a Tamron 18-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di iii-A VC VXD. Lens. Thank you so much. The Sigma Lens is kind of heavy. What type of lens is it?? Subscribed. Thanks
@DustinAbbottTWI 5 ай бұрын
If you have the DN lens, and it fits on your camera, you've got the right lens.
@drail80s 5 ай бұрын
Ok, but is it a sport lens?@@DustinAbbottTWI
@kobiorama 2 жыл бұрын
Dustin, Can you give an estimate to the lens focusing performance on the A7R3? There is a significant difference in focusing capability and performance between the A1 and A7R3/4.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
There's no question that autofocus won't be as robust. I found there to be a significant difference even with the 200-600 G.
@kobiorama 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks!. Can you maybe create a video about that? the effect the different bodies have on focusing performance? It seems that everyone is overlooking it in their reviews and I haven't seen a video which takes several lenses (oem and third party) and compares their performance on different bodies, especially new vs. somewhat older. I'm ot talking about comparing really different generations like the A1 to the A7R, but even within the latest lineup - A1 vs R4/3, or on the canon R3/5 to R.. those are cameras that are still being sold as new.
@KevinNordstrom 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Contemporary?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Which Contemporary? There is no planned Contemporary version of this lens.
@barryobrien1890 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see they dropped the price of the 150 -600 Sport for Dslr. I was not a fan of the dslr sports as they were heavy expensive and not a optically good as the contemporary. Great weather protection. I wonder if they will do a contemporary version
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t actually find that the Contemporary was better optically than the Sport. I know that rumour circulated on KZfaq, but I don’t think it is true.
@barryobrien1890 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you. I only tried it out, but it was a little expensive and too heavy. I purchased the contemporary and really like it. I use it with my Nikon Z7 with the converter. Hopefully they will make a native z version some time. Thanks for the excellent review
@jonathanbradford9403 2 жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning here is that most emount bodies are likely to be 20fps going forward, possible exception being the a7R line. I know that's speculation, but with the a9 being released 2017, it maybe cost effective enough to put 20fps into an a74 in 2021/22. As the new standard in speed is 30fps of the a1 putting 20fps into a cheaper body would not impact sales much. If there is an a9iii it will be at 30fps. Meaning to future proof buying the 200-600 might be the better buy long term.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to make assumptions about cameras yet unreleased, but there's no question that the trend is towards faster burst rates.
@shankhanilsarkar2161 2 жыл бұрын
Any update on RF mount version of Sigma lenses?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not hearing anything from Sigma about RF development…yet.
@shankhanilsarkar2161 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Ok sir. Hope Sigma start making lenses for RF mount soon. Canon lenses are way too pricy here in India. Thanks for the detailed review. Congrats for 100k... Take care.
@pankajvermacs 2 жыл бұрын
@@shankhanilsarkar2161 - But performance of Canon RF100-500 can beat any lens hands down even Sony 200-600.
@marknongkhlaw1674 2 жыл бұрын
What are the drawbacks (if any) when DG is used in mirrorless cameras? Thanks
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
DG just means it is full frame. The focus system is a linear STM type focus motor.
@marknongkhlaw1674 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I'm using it with an APSC sensor camera. From what you said, I was concerned lest I made a bad choice. Maybe I should've gone for a DN version of the lens instead...
@bobclavi 2 жыл бұрын
im looking at this or the Tamron 150-500 for a a6400. of the two lenses what would you buy?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I personally might lean towards the Tamron for two reasons - the AF is better, and the size is a better fit for the smaller a6400 body.
@bobclavi 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I am not much worried about the size of it. i wanna use the lens for birding and for car racing events. so a lot of both video and photography. does that alter your choice at all or would you still go tamron?
@bobclavi 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI the sigma also has a less stop of light at full zoom than the tamron so that has me looking at the sigma also. just alot of money to be second guessing everything lol
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Either is a good choice, but the difference in light gathering is only one third of a stop - not statistically significant.
@viktorskalican1980 2 жыл бұрын
You make the best reviews! Which lens has better stabilization, Sigma or Sony? I would like to use it for a video.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Sony, but there's not a major difference.
@jalexanderevans 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Sigma 100-400 sharper? If so, can you crop in 50% and get similar results?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it is sharper, no.
@jav_eee 2 жыл бұрын
I think the one decider for me is the zoom tension switch. I plan on taking pics of the moon and I’ve seen reviewers comment on lens creep from the Sony 200-600.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, as there shouldn't been any zoom creep - the Sony is an internally focusing lens, so there isn't anything to creep physically.
@jav_eee 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI it was noticed when the lens was pointed up at a higher angle, 60 to 90 degrees or so, while taking pics of the moon when it’s high in the sky.
@jav_eee 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI just got my lens. Pointed straight up it’ll creep from 200 to 300, stays at 600. I mean, something moves inside to zoom, makes sense it would creep. Glad it’s at the lower range as I’ll be using 600 for moon pics.
@heatherspencer3627 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your in depth reviews, they are really helpful. I shoot primarily wildlife, but a bit of landscape as well with a Sony a7r3, and am trying to decide between the Sigma 60-600, and the Sigma 150-600 Sony Mount. The most important things to me are fast auto focus for moving subjects, and image sharpness. Though I shoot primarily between 400 and 600, I find the 150 can be quite limiting. The Sigma techs feel that both lenses perform about the same, but I think you may not be in agreement with that. Can I get your take on which lens is better in the two areas I mentioned ? Thanks again for your sharing your knowledge.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
While the two lenses might not be all that different optically (though my copy of the 150-600 DN definitely performed better than the copy of the 60-600mm I tested), there will be a significant difference in autofocus performance. The DN lens is designed for Sony's focus system; the 60-600mm is not.
@heatherspencer3627 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for your time Dustin, I really appreciate it.
@Zunidrap 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing optical performance, beats the Tamron. Best in-depth review on KZfaq as always.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t actually beat the Tamron at 500mm head to head, but it is very old optically.
@dhj013 2 жыл бұрын
Stellar review as always and I totally agree with the ridiculous tripod feet on native Sony telephoto lenses. They really need to make them Arca compatible...almost everyone I know of hates it and they have to always get 3rd party tripod feets which add more to the cost.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree on the Arca observation.
@MannsWoodlandPerspective 2 жыл бұрын
DA doing gods work. And also getting rained on just like I do half the time in videos lol Kinda hoping this comes to Nikon Z, if Nikon Z can't get their own 200-600 out. Need to replace this adapted FTZ'd Sigma 150-600 C, F mount. Especially for video.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Sigma has been quiet about any RF or Z development. It doesn’t seem like either Canon or Nikon have been very welcoming to third parties
@MannsWoodlandPerspective 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI that's how it feels. It's pretty disappointing considering the rich history of Canikon DSLR lenses. Guess we'll have to pull the wallets out if we want a proper mirrorless super telephoto lenses with silent and graceful video in mind.
@gemini-mg6sc 2 жыл бұрын
Very disappointed that there's no teleconverter support for the E-mount version. Firmware update could problematic as well if the firmware update to the Sigma 100-400mm E-mount version is anything to go by. Instead of updating the lens via camera, like Sony and Tamron, or through a usb dock, like Samyang and Sigma EF, updating the Sigma 100-400mm E-mount version requires the user to send the lens back to Sigma to get it updated.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
are you sure that is the protocol for firmware updates?
@videomaker8532 Жыл бұрын
How would this lens perform on the a7rii?
@DustinAbbottTWI Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the a7RII's focus system is pretty limited, and big telephoto lenses put even more stress on a focus system. I would recommend upgrading your camera and then think about a new telephoto lens in the future.
@videomaker8532 Жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I’ve used a tamron 70-300 and the auto focus was pretty decent. I’ve tracked egrets and killdeer. It sucks not having animal eye af, but I’ve managed without it. Would the tamron 150-500 do any better?
@UpLighting 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dustin! Sony 200-600 it is.
@liamriley9816 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you're shooting an A7RIV 🤣
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t mind the money and size, the Sony is still the class leader
@amitkrupal1234 2 жыл бұрын
I just glanced the thumbnail in notifications thinking its tamron then realized its sigma, sigma is really on motivated to launch L & E mount lenses
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That’s very true. They have launched a TON of lenses over the past two years.
@parasecglenkwyst4835 2 жыл бұрын
And i'm here waiting for their X-Mount lineup
@PeregrineBF 2 жыл бұрын
I'd note that "Birds in Flight" can vary a LOT. Turkey Vultures are ridiculously easy. Hawks & eagles almost as simple. Gulls, terns, skimmers, crows, and such start getting a bit harder. Smaller songbirds like jays, cardinals, sparrows, and titmice are harder still. Falcons, smaller accipiters, swifts, and swallows are harder than the dogs or sports: very fast, erratic motion, small target, and often in the middle of a forest or with some other busy background. So "fast enough for BIF" will (like everything else) be somewhat subject dependent.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a valid point, though obviously you are describing a variety of conditions of which it would be near impossible for any reviewer to test in the 2-3 weeks we have (at best) to evaluate gear. It becomes necessary to make some generalizations.
@PeregrineBF 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Of course! And experienced bird photographers likely already know this, so it's more a possible trap for beginners. But since beginners are more likely to want a more "budget" lens, and this is cheaper than the 200-600, I figured it's worth the comment.
@pankajvermacs 2 жыл бұрын
Is there anything which can auto-focus swifts or swallows! The way they fly, I find it hard to even keep them in frame itself.
@PeregrineBF 2 жыл бұрын
@@pankajvermacs I've had some luck with the Sony 200-600mm G on my α7Riv. Definitely tricky, framing is important and takes practice. The α1 and α9 have faster AF, probably get a higher hit rate with those. And of course the Sony 600mm GM lens is even faster at AF than the 200-600, but also $10,000 more.
@basserfelt 2 жыл бұрын
will it come for Canon or Nikon? Am craving for a RF mount
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have heard nothing from either Sigma or Tamron about RF development. I doesn’t seem like Canon is really welcoming any kind of third party development at this point - a mistake, in my opinion.
@oscarshen6855 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like Nikon or Canon user are really on their own now. Nothing suggest that they will open up their technology to third party lens makers as Sony did. It's really hurting them now. I think Canon is making the better camera, their handling is much better than Sony, but I have to switch to Sony because I can't afford the native RF lenses.
@codeofcodedotorg 2 жыл бұрын
Why even try? Sony priced everyone out of the market with the fantastic 200-600 under $2k with teleconverter support, native performance, and faster AF.
@liamriley9816 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you want to shoot anything moving with the A7RIV. No idea why they didn't update it with the released A7RIVA. 200-600 AF hit rate on that camera is ass.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I can see your point, but the difference in price and size is still enough that there is a market for both the Tamron and the Sigma
@GaryBox 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI In the US Dustin you have a valid point. In the UK the choice is clearly between the Sigma and Sony. Both are priced fairly in UK whereas Tamron is not competitive at all.
@liamriley9816 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I read that the 200-600 is actually only about 560mm on the long end compared with the 400 f/4. Is it safe to assume to same for the Tamron and Sigma lenses?
@sandboxaperture7013 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I feel like we are fortunate to get the 200-600 at under $2000. It's performance could understandably warrant a $2500+ price tag.
@isaacj9799 2 жыл бұрын
This is tempting. I have an EDU account where the sony 200-600 is 1600 and the sigma is 1350. IDK what to do!
@rattoh 2 жыл бұрын
i would go with the sony tbh unless you want to save a little bit more money, get worse AF, no TC capability, smaller footprint in bag
@ianunwin 2 жыл бұрын
SONY 200-600 all the way, should be a 1000 price difference for this to be even a thought
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That is challenging, though I will say that the relative savings on the Sony easily surpass the relative savings on the Sigma. Your resale value on the Sony is very likely better than what you pay for it under those conditions.
@Raba196 2 жыл бұрын
Only full frame Sony camera ?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That's what the lens was designed for, and that's what I tested it on.
@sourabhmpatil 2 жыл бұрын
sir can we use this lens on sony a6400 ????????
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
You can use it there. The focal length is magnified by 1.5x because of the crop factor of the a6400.
@sourabhmpatil 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanku sir 🙌❤️ it's means we doesn't need any adptor for this lens to use on Sony a6400 ???
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That's correct.
@sourabhmpatil 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI thnku 😇🙏💕
@jazinzlaty4823 2 жыл бұрын
Autofocus tracking big letdown for me! Thank you!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
It was a bit disappointing for me, too.
@minusinfinity6974 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest let down of this lens is using stepping motor for a sports lens that goes to 600mm. Tamron VXD is much better as is Sony's SSM in the 200-600 which is not as fast their XD Linear motors. I would have been disappointed if they used stepping motors even in a contemporary version, but for the sports they should have gone all out even if it meant another $100 in cost. Sony is worth every cent for AF, and IQ. Best ever supertele zoom at this sub $2K pricepoint IMO.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
While linear motors are essentially premium stepping motors, what stood out to me is that they didn't employ multiple motors in concert, which seems to be the approach most lensmakers are using on their premium lenses.
@vitabcdefghijklmno 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by definitive review?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Definitive means “authoritative or complete”. My definitive reviews tend to be more thorough than just about any competing reviews.
@vitabcdefghijklmno 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI what do you mean by competing reviews? Do you compete against other youtuber?
@TTWGD3 2 жыл бұрын
The ONLY way people choose the Tamron is if they put a 200 or 300 dollar rebate very soon
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure I agree. Tamron has a very good track record with zoom lenses on Sony, and their lens is easily the smallest and lightest of the trio…and is a very strong performer
@TTWGD3 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Personally I would prefer the extra reach for only 300-400 more grams but I suppose others might prefer a smaller set up. I also own a Fuji X-T3 and I may just go for the ultra small telephoto set up of their 70-300mm which is a full frame equivalent of 150-450mm and it’s around 600g in weight.
@TVe200 2 жыл бұрын
My problem is that this is to big, and the Sony 200-600 even bigger. So I have decided to buy the Sony 100-400 and a 1.4x teleconverter. Even it that's much more expensive.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. Size does matter.
@davidburton2294 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great lens we are spoilt for choice!
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@Martinez_Photos 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the lens hood, especially with the big knob sticking out. edited: replaced cap with hood.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the hood? I too like a bayonet style hood a bit better.
@Martinez_Photos 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Yeah, I meant the hood.
@frostybe3r 2 жыл бұрын
RF when? :P
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not hearing anything from Sigma about RF development…yet.
@BlackOps-Ent 2 жыл бұрын
Way to tough out the rain..
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bryanstephens6007 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm .. not wowed by this lens for my needs. I'll be keeping my Tamron 150-500
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
If you’ve just gotten the Tamron, I don’t think there is a huge compelling reason to switch (other than getting to 600mm)
@prs26 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the NEW Tamron killer ?
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
The Tamron does still have a solid niche. It’s the smallest and least expensive of the trio, and is somewhere in between in terms of autofocus.
@gerardferry3958 2 жыл бұрын
seems lenses are getting longer to demise smartphones attraction
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that this is more about filling a hole in both the Sony and Sigma on Sony lineup than it is about competing with smartphones. Smartphones aren’t at all a platform for sports photography.
@TTWGD3 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone donate me the Alpha 1? I feel like the results would look much worse on my a7c haha
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
The a7C is actually a pretty strong performer. I don’t love the ergonomics, but the performance impressed me.
@TTWGD3 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Yeah, I definitely enjoy it, as it is good for street photography with a small lens, does not intimidate people but still has the Full Frame look. I may just got with a 70-300mm Tamron as I don’t think the weight balance would be great on the a7c with the lens reviewed or the Sony.
@sadenb 2 жыл бұрын
I will rather pay the extra and get the Sony.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why having options is great
@mexmax1657 2 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid, that this lens will be the same dust-magnet like the 2470. Have to teardown the 2470 each month to remove all the dust behind the front element. So annoying...
@liamriley9816 2 жыл бұрын
There was/is a recall on serial numbers 5504 and below. Send it to get fixed. Lenses with serial starting 5505 and greater should be far more dust resistant.
@mexmax1657 2 жыл бұрын
@@liamriley9816 Thanks for the info but it's already my second replacement-lens and it's starting to get dust inside it already again. I think it's simply because of the focus-system, that it isn't 100% avoidable. Very sad.
@mexmax1657 2 жыл бұрын
@@liamriley9816 got SN 5573... by the way. *sigh*
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That’s very unfortunate. You must live in a very dusty environment
@mexmax1657 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI i already get something in it after 3 hours in the woods. It's such a big flaw to such a good lens, horrible
@pgo2372 2 жыл бұрын
And so and so and so and so and so and so and so and so...
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, another person who thinks that testing and remembering nearly 40 minutes of information is easy to do.
@pgo2372 2 жыл бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI oh my, don't you have a sensitive little ego.
@tomvana4270 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking commercials.
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what allows this whole industry to exist.
@gagaklumayung7995 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched about 6 professional reviews on this lens and with almost 6 different opinions. I am not a pro so I don't know who gave the most accurate review, if there is such a thing. So to me my wallet and photographic skill will give me the best decision, not their reviews
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched anyone else’s reviews, so I’m not sure what other opinions are out there. But you’re right - at the end of the day you have to make a decision for yourself.
@Ritodipkar 2 жыл бұрын
can you tell me the Indian Pricing ? @Dustin Abbott
@DustinAbbottTWI 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me like Google is the better option for getting that information.
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