+Silent Mike Damn Daniel! Nice job mike Smashed that 405!

Will using the slingshot help actually accelerate the return to normality with a banged up shoulder? Or does it simply allow you to work through the pain yet still damage the joints? Serious question. I've had shoulder issues ever since I began training. First with my left shoulder, now with my right. I hate it, but at the moment I'm limited to dumbell press because I have no pain and can really choose the correct plane of movement.

TFW You max OHP as much as silent mike for 1 but bench 50lbs less

+Silent Mike You guys are lucky to have access to every version and size of the slingshot imaginable so you can vary the amount of help you are getting.

Silent Mike thank you

Ty for comment. I need yellow then. Pb 400 raw. Max usually 315 to 330

Blue.

+RawRawMedia .Skate 165 for 8? You can probably already do 225.

+Stav k nope ! my one rep max is 205-210 approximately. I might get 225 in 3-4 months :)

+Stav k not with 8 reps of 165 based off my math formula his 1rm Max should about 205

+rayg nicky my Max is 225-230 and I can do 13 reps with 165. 205 for 3. I mean he's not far off but the Max calculators always are.

+Justin17 my math is with 5 lbs and it's a formula i invented ....and if your doing 205 for 3 reps pending how those reps are performed you are correct you should be at 225 for a single touch and go

Just a mental thing if you ask me. I been stuck at 395 for a long time and just hit 405x2 after leg day.

id disagree that "most" weakpoint is off the chest. but if thats the case make sur form is sold , extra long pauses + db presses

yeah ok maybe it's just most beginners are weak off the chest

Best thing for your Lowe torque is long pause reps and master your leg drive

+Phlegm Atic Spoto presses!

+Phlegm Atic I agree with Mike, long pauses and presses that give you longer ROM than usual. Incline barbell, incline dumbell, flat dumbell, and bars that give u ronger ROM like a buffalobar :)

+NPC Bodybuilder Google is limited in 5/3/1 information due to its copyright protection. For a full break down on the programme, its methods and the training ethos of Wendler, its best to purchase his book. This should go for any information, if its not from the original source (e.g. a journal article) then its not credible information

+MarcusOsborne2 T Nation has a few articles on the original program and beyond 531 written by Wendler himself. I would definitely grab the books after reading the articles

Read those articles, they are a definite go to source as many are written by Wendell himself. I based my 5/3/1 cycles off most of his newer articles, before jumping over to Conjugate this week

0:00 to hear Mike give some useful information.

it can be used 100% of the time. its just a tool. also use it with long pause can be great.

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Even through moderate use i noticed it. I now use it on just the heavy days of the cube to throw up about 100% for a double or 110% for a couple singles.

I wish they would come to Ohio

+Destiny Athletics They are, they'll be there next week for the Arnold Classic. That what I was asking was if they will be doing any seminars while in Ohio. Still waiting to hear back..

My friend told he is going to be doing a seminar before the Arnold

+Destiny Athletics yea I heard them talking about doing one a few months ago but I believe it was for vets only.

Bench barbell under control and keeping bar straight and even... also dumbbell presses

yes 100%. supramaximal training has proven benefits + slimgshot protext shoulders & allows you to train extra volume.

Well at the very least you can get used to handling heavier weight than you are used too so when you have it raw it wont feel so unfamiliar

+Silent Mike I do like slingshot and i do think it helps. but how's that more volume? that's more volume for the slingshot not for your body. When I lift a ton with a crane, it doesn't add a ton of volume to me isn't it?

The slingshot does not lift the weight for you... its added volume because it is a variation much like close-grip or spoto press with benefits of accomodating resistance. I use it after my raw work etc.. much like a pause squat or stiff leg deadlift.

+sercan can google "gzcl how the slingshot saved my bench" and it's a good read on how one powerlifter really implemented the slingshot to increase his raw bench. the slingshot allows you to work through a full range of motion while handling high intensity weights (90%+, if you choose to go this high intensity). it's not an absolute neccessity but it's worth the purchase in the long run in my opinion.

I've been focusing on dB bench to correct it but want to get back to bb bench

there is it's called a squat suit

Use it after your main 5/3/1 sets. For example the template boring but big you do 5sets of 10 of the main exercise After the 5/3/1 sets. I would use it for the 5by10. Just my opinion though

+Mike Jaskolski those sets are used mainly for hypertrophy though and I'm using the basic 531 with my own assistence, So what I'm wondering is if I'm doing on a 5 week my working sets would be 5,5 then 5+, would I start at the top weight for an extra 3x5 or start there and pyramid up and on the 3rd extra set and perform a 5+ again?

+curtz george personally I would just test out both ways and see what you feel will help you more in the long run. I'm sure there is lots of way to incorporate the slingshot

+Mike Jaskolski it's technical mind bending stuff haha cheers for the help though! hopefully silent mike can put a word in aswell

+curtz george haha no problem I know the feeling of trying to incorporate things into a program and going insane overthinking it.