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@gjonr144 Жыл бұрын
Tip to cut the time removing silver from x-rays. The silver is only on the dull side. Put two sheets together back to back exposing both dull sides while dipping. I've been a photographer for 40 years.
@BC___16 жыл бұрын
Dude that sreetips lab coat is badassery refined to .999
@TheBchughes Жыл бұрын
My brother I just died in April 2022, he was a chiropractor. He has years worth of x-rays I’m presuming 500 pound anyways, my sister-in-law is giving that to me. Just for this purpose… Thank you so much for the info!
@tigerinatux60776 жыл бұрын
For higher yield buy photographically unprocessed film , Silver halogen that is on the gelatin of the film was already used to create silver oxide ( the dark image on the film) hence creating negative image, Most of silver halogen (silver bromide ) was already regenerated to silver and stripped in fixer bath . Recovered silver remained in the hypo and you bought material that had less than 20 % of original silver content. I checked on Ebay for unprocessed Xray film and for the price you paid you could buy unexposed film and recover 5 times the amount of silver you received, You were correct to assume 2.5 oz of silver from 5,5 lb of film, but because most of the weight was in cellulose and silver had already been extracted before you bought it 1/2 oz is a good yield . I have been working for a large photo company for 20 years and silver recovery was part of my job. Recovery was done by methods other than bleach stripping, and hypo solution would yield 1 oz of purest silver per 1000 sq. ft of combined photographic paper and film processed.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Got it, thank you.
@khoohonming67564 жыл бұрын
Hello. The conventional film are using developer to develop the image. Now the medical industry mainly use computered radiography which we call it CR film in Malaysia. Is it contain silver too? I have some sample photo of it. Thank you. Khoohmkhoo956@gmail.com Here's my mail. Thank you.
@stevenhiggins99852 жыл бұрын
Damn! Thank you. Frkn Awesome
@stevenhiggins99852 жыл бұрын
@Guodlca if it's legal doesn't make it ethical. But legal nontheless.
@davescott88596 жыл бұрын
Did a demolition in an old doctor's office and took to the shop over 1k lbs of xrays, a summer project and your video is the best put there. Common chemicals while others weRe asking for money for the chemical list, you shared this with us for free, thank you very much, great video.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Dave, the best of luck with your X-ray films!
@davescott88596 жыл бұрын
Well, it's 3 full pallets, now that I moved them again it's more like 2k pounds. Willing to donate one full pallet to you and the channel, if you do a video showing what a 3 lbs plus of silver looks like, but it would take awhile, but worth it maybe for the channel and the cash. It would be cool to get a high school chemistry class to help you or something. Just thought I would offer, love your channel and I've learned a lot, the offer is there if you decide on it, but I'm in Detroit. Best wishes, and keep rockin.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Dave, thank you for the kind offer. Are you certain that the films are silver? Some processes use film that has no silver. I'll bet that a pallet of film weighs a ton.
@AceBullion6 жыл бұрын
Refining my own bullion and a retired paramedic. I would have never thought about x-ray film. I have no plans to either but it was a great and educational video. Thank you
@benwinkel5 жыл бұрын
Hey look thats my spine on that film! I recognize it immediately. It was the only proof i have a spine and now it's destroyed forever!
@jwdickinson6432 жыл бұрын
mad respect for the efforts you make in the name of science and your hobby. 👍👍👊👊
@grumblekin5 жыл бұрын
He’s like Bill Nye, Bob Ross and Mr. Rogers rolled into one badass process chemist.
@husseinhamad26865 жыл бұрын
Whate kind of sugar did you use ?
@xmachine70034 жыл бұрын
@@husseinhamad2686 plain sugar that you would put in your coffee,white.
@amitsahoo94463 жыл бұрын
100 grm silver out put howmuch pound x ray film needs
@republish3683 жыл бұрын
Well in case you will repeat this recycling I suggest 2 faster methods like: - Cut the plastic: A paper shradder would be GREAT cheap and effective. A paper cutter as you used for cutting the electronics fingers from those 150++ boards that you got more gold than you expected - Bath the plastic: I suggest using something short and larger so that you can put the plastic all inside without the need of tipping in-out something like OLD PHOTO DEVELOPING but bigger. From what I can spot in the video, the silver would go away from the plastic very nice using a brush. - Settling of the metals: I think that some kind of "VIBRATION" would make the settling A LOT FASTER! I would be nice to make a desk with a drill that is gently beating the undersurface of the desk, in this way all desk would slightly vibrate to facilitate the settling. Hope that would be a nice addendum to your future X-ray silver recovery method ;)
@robertbrawley50482 жыл бұрын
I suggest he wet the emulsion and scrape it off with a razor blade . Just kidding
@scotthack26326 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the video. I have actually done the silver chloride/lye/ sugar methods a number of times. I like it. The largest batch I did was 40#'s Xrays from which I got about 2 ozt of silver. I used lye to strip the Xrays, It appears your bleach did it much quicker, so I may try that in the future. When it came to the sugar, Kyro syrup alone or with a little honey and water works great. Much quicker. If you put too much sugar in you'll have brown waste which is the sugar being carmalized. It has caused me not problems. If I can find the picture of the bar I got I'll post it. The yield you got appears consistent. I didn't expect you to get the couple ounces you mentioned in the beginning of the video with the amount of Xray film you had. It of course varies with the quality of the Xrays. Older Xrays (which mine were) have a denser coating on them compared to today's, that is if you can find Xray today with all the places going to digital. Thanks again for the video!
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Scott, thank you.
@wadehampton15342 жыл бұрын
I worked in the printing industry (four color pressman) for sixteen years years (1989-2005), and we always operated a darkroom to make film negatives for plate making. A company would come by once a month and collect the discarded film negatives and used developer solutions to recover the silver from. They collected these same materials from printing companies all over the Phoenix metro area, and they got them for free! I imagine that a tidy profit could have been made, since they are getting the silver bearing materials for free. A streamlined operation could be set up, and you could be in the black fairly quickly (I assume). It looks like quite a lot of film negatives and used developer is needed to produce an ounce of pure silver, but once again, if you're getting the materials for free, the bleach, sodium hydroxide, and sugar are very inexpensive. The most significant amount of overhead will be for labor. Unless you are doing this for yourself, you will need to pay someone to work your operation. You'd have to keep them busy, and process enough material to cover your expenses for chemicals and wages. I imagine that they were making money at it, since they were in business for the entire time that I was in the printing industry.
@bucksmith90355 жыл бұрын
have about 700 lbs of plastic film with silver on it after watching this video i think it will stay where it is seems like to much trouble for what is recovered a great project if you have the time keep up the great videos thanks again
@sreetips5 жыл бұрын
Dipping these films took many hours. I was glad when it was over.
@petepeter18572 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found your channel. I've said it before, it's a treasure trove of content and keeps me awake on my graveyard shift 😆....right smartly!
@charlesinscore4107 Жыл бұрын
I just re-watched . Can't believe this was 5 years ago. This is probably my favorite. I watch from moon to moons.
@yoemdiazcastellanos1939 Жыл бұрын
Hello sreetips my name is Yoem Diaz and I tell you that I have learned a lot from you, I saw some of your videos that I would like to know how many grams of silver came out on that occasion with only 150 grams. here is the link of you tube Silver Cell Build Step by Step From Scratch thank you very much for what he does
@captainjerk6 жыл бұрын
People that have a stack of x-ray films layin' around can do some reclaiming! I really hope there isn't anybody out there that has 5lbs of their own x-ray pics out there! Interesting process! Thanx bud!
@cristiancovarrubias94455 жыл бұрын
How much can you get for 5lbs?
@jyamo82864 жыл бұрын
@@cristiancovarrubias9445 the guy in the video got .525 oz and its like 87 cents per grader or smtjn
@bwhaz2 жыл бұрын
So far Im at 20:32. I really like how those x-ray films can be harvested so easily for their silver! ... An idea came to mind that, perhaps, the water and bleach could be distilled such that you have just the bleach separated with more of your silver compound left mostly alone; not sure if that would work, but perhaps if someone had a lot of x-ray film to process it might make the process easier. ... As well as possibly taping the film lengthwise, placing a roller into the bleach and water, and setting a motor to turn the film through the two sections at just enough speed to allow for the silver to be harvested automatically without the need for assembly-lining it... Gosh, am I lazy.
@dr.a0063 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this. Mainly, not to buy films from eBay. But I wish I kept the stack of old panoramic dental films I saw a few years ago get tossed. Maybe I can find a free stack again and refine them.
@johndemetro41285 жыл бұрын
I think you did great I will look for a lot of videos and couldn’t find a lot to explain specially when somebody’s talking you through it makes it better it was maybe one or two other videos that was silent great job
@paulmiller588 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got to say I love your channel and all of these videos. Keep it up Sreetips!
@lukasblazek52256 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I had no idea that X-ray film contains silver *shy*. Once again thanks for investing your own money to show this to us :)
@betadoctor6 жыл бұрын
Ow yes. Also keyboard mylars.
@robertjeffery32376 жыл бұрын
When I use this process for developed black and white film ( which is what X-ray film is) I always use a vacuum filter before converting AgCl to AgO. There is always a gross amount of the emulsion and silverhalide carried over with this process. Your yield was better than expected. Better than the same mass of keyboard mylars.
@kylefogg41596 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration, I've always wondered how silver recovery from film works. That 0.525oz is a much lower yield than I expected from over 5lbs of material, which is OK, because now I have a realistic idea of what to pay for this type of silver recovery scrap. Thank you so much for taking the time to explore all of these different recovery and refining methods, and sharing your findings with all of us! Do you have a Patreon or some account where I can make a monetary donation to help keep these videos coming?
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Kyle, I'm not sure how that works. I'll have to get one set up. Thank you.
@letsexplorequettavalley75782 жыл бұрын
Which salts are added plz tell
@emenikedanieludo19746 жыл бұрын
sir sreetips, your demonstration was so grate. i will try it thanks for you recovery.
@paulchristenberry51405 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I am gonna be getting about 40 or 50 pounds of films soon!!
@sreetips5 жыл бұрын
If I did this again I'd use a 5 gallon bucket instead of the small bucket that I used in the video. If I remember it took me 6 hours to strip five pounds! Good luck with it.
@bwhaz2 жыл бұрын
I love the ability to use borax as flux. Just throw the filter in there, let it burn, melt the silver, throw borax on it, melt it, and then either get the flux off separately (depending on the metal, it seems) or use some chemicals which leech the flux but not your target metal. ... One thing I saw that bigstackD did was use the current going-rate for whatever material he has harvested and give an estimate, at the time of the video, for what the harvest would yield if sold. Would be great for both seeing the rate of inflation as well as give an appreciation to the viewer (me) what these nuggets are worth. ... Then again, the weight tells all! No need to add anything to your style, just thought I'd throw it out there in case you find it interesting to try. :)
@davidhansen44716 жыл бұрын
well...........you may not be making any money on these demos but i think your still nothing less than a genious thanks pard
@cinemoriahFPV2 жыл бұрын
I would put those through a heavy duty shredder first. Very interesting salvage process 👍
@virenk859 Жыл бұрын
Shredding will be a wasted effort, because the coating on the sheet contains silver. That needs to be submerged to dissolve it in bleach or Nitric acid...
@Jeff-nb4re Жыл бұрын
interesting as an educational purpose ! it gives sense on the word "recycling", thanks for all your work, i also enjoy all you videos about gold refining
@bloodyliar5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. Can I add to the calls for a video on the reclamation of silver in suspension please ! Years ago, when film development was manual, we use to sell the spent Fix solution for the modern equivalent of 20 Dollars/Gallon (with a lot of wheeling and dealing between us and the scrapman) I was told by old heads that the process involved a trickle charge of current and produced 'Black Silver' - I've still got some 'Silver Estimating' papers somewhere... i was also told that silver recovery from film was done by burning the excess away to leave silver behind - I've no idea if this was true, its just what I was told !
@chrissalberg98545 жыл бұрын
Fill a bucket full of steel wool and pour the fixer in stirring ever so often and then letting the silver bind to the steel wool....once all the fixer is gone and drained out rinse the steel wool with water and walla....there's your silver. I have over 5,000 pounds of film in my shop so I believe bringing it straight to the refinery works best for me. BTW.....the steel wool has some sort of chemical electrical reaction to the fixer and silver so the silver binds to the steel wool.
@garymyers66382 жыл бұрын
I worked many years ago in industrial lithography. We had several film processing units that needed to have the chemistry changed out on a weekly basis. Rather than toss out the solution, we poured it into a device with a series of metal fins that ran a low electrical charge through. The silver halides would collect on the fins. A couple times a year we would scrape the fins and sell the collected material to a silver recovery concern. This was back when the Hunt family tried to corner the silver market. We did well enough to offset some other industrial costs. It was worth doing.
@sreetips2 жыл бұрын
I remember the Hunt brothers.
@tomakers92756 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I had no idea that was that easy. I worked for a company dealt with recycling xrays, but we shipped them to a refiner. I was doing the math and it was impressive for a 25,000 pound truck load at a time. We did that every couple of months.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
The yield was roughly 0.1 troy ounces per pound or 1 troy ounce for every ten pounds. So 25k pounds would produce 2500 troy ounces! It took me six hours to get the silver off of five pounds. 25,000 pounds would take me the rest of my life.
@chrisferrante96992 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips could you put the films in a sealed bucket with the bleach on a shaker table for a bit…. Then rinse. Bulk processing the material.
@sreetips2 жыл бұрын
I tried doing several at once and they tended to stick together and trapping the silver.
@scotthack26326 жыл бұрын
Someone made a comment about settling more with regards to your yield. I didn't expect 2 ounces from the amount of Xray film you had there from my experience, but I do think that making sure every bit is converted to silver chloride and letting the silver chloride settle until liquid is clear before decanting would've increased your yeild. Then at that point lye until dark black (from my experience) and no more reaction, then a liquid sugar like Kyro syrup diluted just a little and add until you start to get it very brown (excess sugar is carmelized) then rinse, let settle, and repeat until clear. Then you can be confident you have converted and recovered ALL the silver present. I would've still been surprised if you'd gotten a whole troy ounce but you might have recovered more. Still, I love your videos. Much respect!!
@tigerinatux60776 жыл бұрын
Scott its a film. It will have no silver chloride which is less sensitive and mainly is is used in contact printing, Film will contain Silver bromide or in rare cases silver fluoride , which will be the emulsion.depending on application. Buying exposed/processed film by pound is like buying a goldfish with 5 gallons of water and paying per pound.
@scotthack26326 жыл бұрын
John Abramyan Hi John. you missed the word **converted** the silver based emulsion is converted to silver chloride then converted to silver oxide by the lye, then to metallic silver by the sugar.
@scotthack26326 жыл бұрын
John Abramyan. It’s called *yield*. If you know how many goldfish each lb of water yields you could purchase goldfish by water weight. Knowing that older heavier coated X-ray film gave me 2 ounces nearly pure silver from approximately 40lbs of film goes toward estimating “how much to pay by weight for that goldfish containing water”. 😉
@chrisbarton35136 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thank you for your teachings, you are the man!!!
@rawdawgpendants54903 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Its a GREAT hobby to have. Alchemy is alive and well.
@g-radical349 Жыл бұрын
ooof i am kicking myself watching this, about 6 months ago i threw out 15+ kg of old x-rays I'd hoarded. this looks like a fun process, and damn, had no idea there was silver on them!
@richardperkins36124 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and efforts. And expence . Your efforts have saved us time effort and money. But most of all...thank you for emphasizing safety.too many videos out there gonna get someone sick or hurt.😎
@pregnofakepregnancytestpra5854 жыл бұрын
If that's acetate, you can sell the films themselves after you strip them. There's a market for those and it's a lot larger than you would think!
@t82832876 жыл бұрын
This is a great video..many thanks, having worked in the medical X Ray industry for years, I have a good stock of X Ray film silver halide recovered from electrolysis units, I would say it is around 5kg....however it is like a fine black sand with a sulphur like odour, it is very dense and settles quickly in distilled water, IE it forms a sand like layer, but it is black and not grey like your metallic residue detailed here...do you have any suggestions how to process it to metallic silver ( it is definitely silver as it has come from recovery machines) thanks
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
In my experience, it may be silver oxide. Silver oxide is black in color, in my experience. If it were me, I would get a small sample, say about 100ml volume, and I'd put it in a crucible and heat it to 1000 degrees C or 1948 degrees F. Silver oxide, when heated, releases the oxygen and leaves behind pure metallic silver metal. Another experiment that I would try is to add a gram of sodium hydroxide to a 100ml sample of the black material, then stir and add some sugar. If it's silver oxide then I would expect to see the black silver oxide turn to pure elemental grey silver powder. This is what I would do, if it were me.
@scrapsteenlifeintheforks19432 жыл бұрын
Thank you for once again showing us another place to find silver:-)
@Subgunman6 жыл бұрын
We used to recover silver from the fixing bath of black and white film development. We used powdered zinc to precipitate the silver out of the solution. Allowing the zinc silver mix to settle out we would recycle the fixing bath and allow the mud to dry. This mud can be smelted to separate the zinc from the silver.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Smelting is a term used to describe extracting metal from ore. To seperate the zinc and silver, both are dissolved in hot dilute nitric acid. Then copper metal is introduced into the acidic zinc/silver solution. Zinc, being above copper in the reactivity series of metals, will stay in solution. Silver being located below copper in the reactivity series of metals, will cement (precipitate) out as nearly pure silver metal as a grey powder that looks like wet cement. This is where the term "cement" comes from. (Edited once for spelling).
@genehunsinger39812 жыл бұрын
13:37 here you see a man MOVE'N with a purpose,,,,,,,,LOL ka-ching,,,,ka-ching.,,,,,Mrs Sreetips is smile'n.It's look'n alot like Christmas,that happy time of year.
@scrapman502 Жыл бұрын
It seems a fish tank would be ideal for this process. you could put the entire stack of x-rays into the tank with bleach in it, and then pull them out 1 at a time to rinse them off.
@999DusanGoldrecovery6 жыл бұрын
Exelent job man!!!
@junz573 жыл бұрын
Hi, i see you there😁😁😁
@Steelythestacker3 ай бұрын
Really informative. Learned something for sure.
@jammadturn6 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying your videos unfortunately at this stage of my life I am not at the point where I am able to purchase from your ebay store which unfortunately I have not been able to locate your store on ebay, I will have to get someone to show me how. Also I just wanted to say I would not mind you having one or two commercials in your videos if it will help you to break even or even better make a profit so it will be easier for you to continue to do these videos and it would make Mrs. Sreetips happier as well. Thanks for the videos and may the Lord bless and keep you, have a blessed day.
@erwing53926 жыл бұрын
And yet another great video! Very clear explaned and educative, thanks very much, I'll will be following you!
@Bryan-zr2mf6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I'd like to echo the requests for a video on recovery of silver from waste fixer solution.
@chrissalberg98545 жыл бұрын
When using an x-ray automated x-ray film processor a silver recovery unit is attached in series to and to the fixer tank drain line. The silver recovery may be an electrical type which traps the silver magnetically to the recovery unit or is simply a 5 or 10 gallon bucket with lid stuffed with steel wool which attracts the silver to the steel wool. Each month the processor needs maintenance for cleaning and fresh chemistry to develop the x-rays and when the fixer tank is drained from the automated film processor the fixer flows through the recovery unit before going down the drain. (also all overflow fixer from everyday processor use goes through the silver recovery unit). Depending on your film volume the recovery units are cleaned or taken outright and refined in a similar manner as this video.
@americanrebel4135 жыл бұрын
This was really good! Now if we can find a supply of free x-rays and photo film I think we would be set don't you?! Thank you for sharing this it was great!
@brett765446 ай бұрын
I had to do some wastewater testing for an industrial permit at a college and one part was for the building for dental hygienists and nurses. Figure chemical treatment system along with silver recovery systems for the Xray and dental areas. Even in the wastewater pipes leaving the building I could detect silver. The worst part, the copper pipes for the drains from all the HVAC units. The pipes from the labs were glass and no problems with the chemical system.
@Anon-ot5fj2 жыл бұрын
Excellent experiment .....that's what science is all about...but FYI you could get the silver quicker by drying out the 1st sludge and smelting it with NaCO3 and borax then pouring into a cone mold.Commercially the film is shredded and dumped into a very large vat of caustic cyanide with much agitation and aeration then electro-refined and the cyanide is reused.Of course you don't want to bring cyanide into a home environment but this process is easily scaled up to handle large quanities quickly.
@michaelbooher6122 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much For doing that.. Yes you demonstrated how to extract the silver and also gave us kinda a formula to go by when doing ut ourselves and wether or not its worth it to follow the project all the way through or not.... That's assuming that all x-rays are generally about the same in their silver content... I would love to invest to get started... But the way things are going right now.. I am building a gravity fed water filtration system.. So we can have clean water.. Things are so different anymore.. The carefree days have vanished.. These are different times.. I think a good water filtration system will be the smartest thing i have ever done... Even better than college.. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Well the smartest thing Next to making colloidal silver.. Have a nice evening
@TechneMoira6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I wonder what one would get as yield from soldered copper pipe ends, since that type of solder contains silver. Not to mention solder that is sucked off of old print circuits. I gather quite a bit of it working on electronics, especially vintage electronics where parts are soldered to contact bridges. Thanks for your sharing your knowledge and video. It was entertaining and interesting
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
I bought some silver solder from the welding supply store. I've had it for about two years now. A whole tube of it for about $50 bucks. I had forgotten all about it. It would make a great video. Thank you.
@joeydubbs7634 жыл бұрын
That was great Streetips, thanks brother!
@Jewelrymaker6 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of pounds of silver oxide batteries that I would be happy to donate to you if you ever want to try refining them.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ken. I'll have to look into how that's done. It would make a good video.
@Robbob99336 жыл бұрын
It is a bit tedious but it is a simple process. Break the silver oxide batteries open and use nitric acid. This could be used as the electrolyte for your silver cell.
@MezeiEugen3 жыл бұрын
@@Robbob9933 more exactly?
@johnrhyne57482 жыл бұрын
Really like the video but can you explain what the purpose for the Sodium Hydroxide and table sugar? There are other videos show placing the silver sludge in a coffee filter and going straight for the melt. Much thanks
@sreetips2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that the sludge was a chloride since it came off with chlorine bleach. I used lye to convert the silver chloride to silver oxide - but I do not know if this was even necessary, it didn’t react like I expected, but this whole thing was a big experiment. After converting silver chloride to silver oxide (I think) then I added sugar to convert the silver oxide to pure silver metal. That seemed to work fine. But I may have had silver oxide before adding the lye - I don’t know. Silver oxide will melt into pure silver metal without the lye and sugar. I only did this once. I’ll probably never do it again. It was messy, time consuming, produced much waste that had to be treated before disposal and the yield was low. I couldn’t find a video on it. The videos that existed back then showed bits and pieces, then directed you to a web site and for a fee you could get the rest of the process. This disturbed me so I decided to do a video of the complete process.
@johnrhyne57482 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips I think you gave all of us what we needed and proved your point. The process was interesting and easy to follow and the result was spot on. Thank you...
@painmt65111 ай бұрын
Wow! I just realized that I have been watching you for over 5 years. The years have flown by!
@sreetips11 ай бұрын
I’ve been refining since 2010. Thirteen years!
@ourodolixo-e6 жыл бұрын
Very good friend 👏👏👏👏
@RadomKidsareme0003 жыл бұрын
I think it’s time for an x-ray silver recovery RE-DO! That yield seems a little low considering the way your lye and sugar reactions turned out. Seemed very incomplete. In feeling you probably got a 60% yield.
@toomaskotkas44675 жыл бұрын
Would you do a video of a complete process of recovering silver from the keyboard mylars? I've seen a couple on KZfaq but I think your methodological way of doing things will greatly benefit such a video.
@sreetips5 жыл бұрын
It's probably the same process with even less silver to get.
@toomaskotkas44675 жыл бұрын
Oh, O.K.
@temesgentenaw33084 жыл бұрын
some other person tried bu using hno3 likeSilver recovery by chemical leaching depends on the heating of the film in the solution of oxalic acid (H2C2O4), nitric acid (HNO3), sodium hydroxide (NaOH), at boiling temperature for the separation of the inorganic component from the polymer layer. The development of X-ray film leads to waste from the fixer and from the aqueous solutions containing from 1000 to 10,000 mg Ag/L and respectively 50-200 mg Ag/L silver in form of thiosulfate complex how do u seen ?
@sreetips4 жыл бұрын
Tem, you're way over my head here. I got this to work because I'm familiar with these reactions from my years of refining experience. I used bleach to get the silver off the films. I duducted that there was silver chloride in the material that came off the films. So I added NaOH to convert any silver chloride to silver oxide. Then I added sugar, just like we use to sweeten our breakfast cereal, to convent the silver oxide to pure elemental silver metal. Rinsed off all the sugar and lye, then melted the silver into a button. I bought those films for $100 on eBay because they were guaranteed to have silver on them. I needed them to make the video. Some films do not have silver. I don't know how to tell which do and which don't have silver. All I really needed to know is what solution was used to get the silver off the films. Turns out it's just regular household bleach. The rest is history as documented in my video. Good luck!
@mr.g-sez11 ай бұрын
such a underrated/underapreciated mineral! lets hope the kilo goes up to 1000$ that would be a good thing.
@raybeer395 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou I enjoyed watching that unfold
@Wurt2345 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I was wondering if you could use this process to strip old cds and dvds instead of using caustic soda?
@k.k.jalandra87413 жыл бұрын
I like this video and teaching method. Thanks.
@SeanInSA2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm just wondering if shredding the xrays then dropping in a bucket of bleach and stirring would not maybe save a bit of bleach or cutting into smaller squares so that they can all get dropped into the bucket at once?
@scott.c95872 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you very much for your wonderful video.
@pfanokhavhu57784 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for demonstration. this video really helped a lot
@Alan-bn6ii3 жыл бұрын
one thing you could have tryed when you did this few years back try and see if you could print on them with a laser and a inkjet printer. i have some that i did have and a laser printer did work you could see what it printed as the film had some type of chem that made ink and laser print stayed on it. next time you get some film next time try it b 4 hand and after then you could have 2 uses for them instead of binning them
@ericbeeman87172 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty interesting didn't know their was silver on old xray films
@highthander13 жыл бұрын
Thats the best way ĺ have seen on youtube
@christopherkoonkoon39146 жыл бұрын
love your effort and work
@ZoonCrypticon2 жыл бұрын
I wonder, if having used glucose instead of saccharose you wouldn´t have gotten a better yield, since glucose has a reducing effect, which is also used in the Tollens probe when silver nitrate is instantly conversed to metallic (mirror) silver.
@friends-xu3fq3 жыл бұрын
Thank you . Know I know I don't want to waste my time with this. To costly both time and investment. But good video.
@spotlobac76944 жыл бұрын
such a deal, Wow ! 9 dollars worth, good work ace, thumbs up.
@sreetips4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@spotlobac76944 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips i went through the same ordeal with cd,s & nitric, aint got nothin on there man. have fun & be safe.
@eloimumford52473 жыл бұрын
We used to extract directly by washing/dissolving with sodium hydroxide the ground Pet, centifuged the sludge , then high heat .
@dynomania4 жыл бұрын
That was certainly a labor of love 😍
@rafikwadie25396 жыл бұрын
I started performing silver recovery with bleach but seems bleach made in egypt is bad quality,it couldn't strip the silver so I am doing it with hydrogen peroxide , is it ok with hydrogen peroxide ? I am surprised why bleach is not working out with me !
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Rafik, some films are thermal and do not have silver. I've never used hydrogen peroxide so I don't have any experience there.
@jammadturn6 жыл бұрын
If you decided to do this again it looks like it might be easier and speed up the process a bit if you cut your film in strips half as long. Also if you decided you wanted to do a lot of this film if you could run across one of those old cutting boards with the arm that has the blade on it and you just lower the arm with a blade attached and it cuts your paper or whatever, I can't remember what they are called but ifyou could find one for cheap if you decided to do a lot of this it would help. Sorry, I comment too much sometimes.
@kassiman53076 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@OwlTech3336 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!
@jammadturn6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that if you know of a local scrapper maybe you could make a deal with them to buy their electronic waste after they process it that would also give you a cheaper source to get your ewaste since you may not have the time to go scrapping yourself.
@u2lchannel9315 жыл бұрын
whether bleach liquid for clothing can be used and what is the second chemical component used
@sreetips5 жыл бұрын
I used bleach for cloths. Then I see lye to turn the chloride to silver oxide. Then I used sugar to convert the silver oxide to pure silver metal.
@u2lchannel9315 жыл бұрын
Is borax needed during the combustion process?
@temesgentenaw33084 жыл бұрын
did you see the indian extracting of silver from x ray films in 2 hour and i were motivated by looking them
@local94764 жыл бұрын
Video link pls
@KD0CAC2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much is in your waste buckets , and how much reaction did not finish ? Is there a test for silver in , during these processes - to see if the drop reaction is finished ? Thanks again
@juliannotnoob15666 жыл бұрын
Hi, Industrial silver recovery is somewhat fascinating to me. I have recycled several thousand pounds of film for aprox. $0.15/lbs in the US. Simple mathematics on .5 oz recovery on 5 lbs film, there is not much value in secondary recycling. Years back, before recycling was popular, I used to have to pay to have film removed. My question is, would the same practices work on a volume of 500 lbs at a time in large drums of bleach and some time sensitive chemistry? I have a challenge for Sreetips. If I mail you 250 lbs of film at no charge, could you create a solution video of volume recovery practices and split the raw silver 50/50? (less the cost of raw chemicals of course) Let me know...
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
John, thank you for the kind offer, but I must respectfully decline. I am not set up to refine other people's material. I only do this as a hobby. I made this video to demonstrate how it can be done.
@keithstreeter90542 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Would be amazing if that could be profitable!
@russellwarren95953 жыл бұрын
hey sreetips, thanks for all of the content. I think that you understand what people want to watch than most other KZfaq content creators. (no disrespect to other KZfaqrs). although I think that you do yourself a massive disservice by seeing yourself as no more than an enthusiastic hobbiest, I think I have learned more about chemistry from a few of your videos than I did at school! I was wondering what is the best deal/result that Mrs Streetips has acquired? by that I mean has their ever been a time that she paid a few dollars for something that turned out to be quite valuable?
@garfield123443 жыл бұрын
It's possible to still have silver in the gelatin, agar coating where silver was (which foams in NaOCl sol - Na hipochloride sol with free Cl2 solved faint yellow which is high alcaline too...) That yellowish foamy solution which tends to do a silver coloidal state... Solution must be boiled to dry and residue will contain Ag... Possibly...🤔💭😇
@jackbacic8684 жыл бұрын
when you mix the sodium hydroxide in don't stir heat solution you then get instant black colour if it is grey your not hot enough don't use sugar use glucose
@seymourpro60976 жыл бұрын
I had a friend years ago who made his living recovering silver from photo processing, he recycled x-ray films by simply putting them into the bleach-fix solution from print processing and letting the blix remove the silver into solution. All the silver was recovered by electrolysis. OK in those days he could collect 5000litres per week. Ebay is a spectacularly poor place to buy scrap for recycling. If your nearby hospitals still use film for x-rays, contact them for a recovery contract including a data destruction requirement. However the digital age has decimated photo labs with wet chemistry, and hospital x-rays are moving towards an all electronic format so there is almost no film involved and this is approaching zero over the next few years.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
The reasons you gave are exactly why I bought it on eBay. The film is hard to come by these days and I needed it to make the video. I normally do not process X-ray films for silver. The silver is easy to find in much higher yielding scrap jewelry from yardsales.
@hectortello92264 жыл бұрын
Hooo... excellent your vídeo My friend... congratulations for You Chanel...bro... excellent.....
@misoman6 жыл бұрын
Darn it, I miss the constant stannous testing, I love watching for the hint of color, or lack there of. Dang, that sounds so sad!
@drubradley88216 жыл бұрын
OH MAN!!!!..... I know this may sound dumb for me to say this, but, I wish I had seen this video about 15 years ago.... I did a contract job to refurbish a warehouse, and part of the job required me and my guys to clear it out..... over 280 tons of X-Ray films, that went to the scrap. LOL, the very first dumpster, we just filled it to the rim, while never putting any thought into the truck being able to lift it, and spend 3 days off loading that container to make it liter, while filling 2 others ,and the truck driver was still grumpy about how heavy these 1/4 filled dumpsters were.. I had no idea those were sliver coated. I just thought the plastic film is what weighed so much... I forget how many dumpsters, something like 50 to 55 units. I feel like even more of an idiot now, as the dumpster company was glad to take them off my hands, as if they were helping me out...... I WONDER WHY..... lol It is okay, I wasn't into reclaiming back then anyway, I am just glad they did, or at least I will assume they did. 10 lbs of film, equals approx 1 oz...... 2000 / 10 = 200.... 200 x 280 = 56000 oz.... 56000 oz / 16 = 3500 lbs... that can't be right? $1,008,000.00 @ $18 per oz?.... I think I am still an idiot... either way, great video, keep'em rolling
@scotthack26326 жыл бұрын
Man! I would LOVE to have that much film to process! Hard to come by now with digital the way it is.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Woo... That's a ton of cash in the garbage. Not all X-ray film has silver. Some is heat sensitive and has NO SILVER, as I have just found out. You can tell if it's the heat sensitive stuff if it darkens when you heat it with a match or cigarette lighter. If it does, then there's no silver in it.
@MrSnivelupagus6 жыл бұрын
I think he demonstrated clearly that it's not worth it. That in itself is valuable. Hopefully the monitization for the video can help reduce the pain. Even if he got the film for free, the bleach used even costs more than the silver. Plus at least 8-12 hours of time. Today an oz of silver is $17.22. Not to mention the annoyance of working with bleach, lol. I'd be adding the cost of a pair of levis to the bill! But thanks for the video, and all the videos over the years. I did 3 55 gallon drums of gold pcb scrap, and cpu's for over 6 oz of gold with you as my teacher.
@temesgentenaw33083 жыл бұрын
there is a some x ray film which is exposed by light but differ from used x ray film so this kind of x ray film only washing by naoh and filter then melt plus getting a product i think so because the silver is accumulated mainly.Say something and start this project?
@titohaggardt6125 Жыл бұрын
I think you lost a lot of material with the rinses. The silver was so fine to start with is there any chemical that would help condense it, like an gold amalgamate?
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Not that I know of
@nickmiller37966 жыл бұрын
Great video and education. With an ROI like that though you are going to go broke.
@sreetips6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out Nick.
@stevenhiggins99852 жыл бұрын
You gotter Done! Thank you. Damn, if the bleach worked so well on that?
@shaneyork3005 жыл бұрын
Until this video I never knew that ex-rays were made of silver, not a whole lot but some! 👍👍
@sreetips5 жыл бұрын
Shane, be aware that some X-rays do not contain silver.
@shaneyork3005 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Is there a way to know which is silver and which is not?? I have a friend who's a retired doctor. He gave me a whole lot of ewaste when he did retire. There might be a slim chance to get xrays. I also have 20 plus gallons of free bleach, so there be some profit in it. Thank you!!
@sreetips5 жыл бұрын
There are digital X-rays that don't have silver. I've only done this one batch so I don't know how to tell the difference.
@shaneyork3005 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Thank you!!
@husseinhamad26865 жыл бұрын
Films which are used in CRprocessing have not silver .