Thanks. I did wonder about why he skipped Dvorak.

So Bernstein was a bit ignorant

Forgot Ralph Vaughan Williams and Malcolm Arnold as well. They also wrote 9 symphonies.

@@omegamale7880 well, he was talking about first rate composers 😂😂😂

@@AndreyRubtsovRU You're kidding yourself or you're ignorant if you think Dvorak was anything less than a first rate composer. Easily the equal of Brahms.

American conductors? how many in the 50s?

Right in the middle of the Cold War period Leonard Bernstein took the NYP to Moscow, and as far as I know there was a guest performance of Moscow's Bolschoy Theatre in America about the same time. That's how it should be: When tensions rise there should be people to work against them. Leonard Bernstein was one of them.

Shostakovitch live listen Bernstein conduct the 7th to

@@sarahjones-jf4prnot that many

@GreyGear Indeed he was. I was a student of his (and I still consider myself one thanks to the magic of the Internet...)

warsd4 I agree with you! What a voice!

His voice was a bit ravaged by this point by years of smoking, but yes an amazing man and voice.

Whenever I think of the latter half of the 20th century when it comes to the terms of classical, my mind always thinks of Bernstein and Gould.

it was even better before becoming obviously distressed from a lifetime of smoking

Chain smoking and long living don’t go along...

@@jakeforrest 72 is pretty long, it's the average for the time

@@jakeforrest Better to die at72yrs ,with such a rich life than linger into 80 and 90s with nothing but pain and misery.

​@@jakeforrest alcholol as well

@@andreaguarino8207 Put down that drink and learn to spell "alcohol".

brilliant speculation indeed :) 'no-no, we don't go there'

He might have enjoyed it when it wasn't directed at him, but yeah.

I heard this (maybe not true), Shosty's humor actually makes him an "enemy of the people" by Stalin, because it was too circusy, not appropriate for the end of the war.

I mean once you create an opera called the "nose", your basically one dark comedian as well as musician.

@@ashiapmanman Well, the enemies of the people were executed. SHostakovich was lucky, he became just a bad composer and was prohibited and sent to the countryside for the next 8 years until the death of Stalin. However, as Bernstein said, this is just a musical joke, because the people after war felt liberty -- nobody has expected, that Stalin became more cruel again.

@@Edgelordess "Nose" is the name of N.V. Gogol's mystic story written in the 1-st half of XIX-th century, you can find it here: en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Nose_(Gogol/Field) . It's ubicated in Russian school programms. The most curious, that this style is denomined a typical exmple of realism.

Including Mozart’s “Ein musikalischer Spaß”?

@@btat16 damn thats even better

@@btat16 i mean, this piece is more of a contextual sarcasm than a musical joke.

​@thegameslayer2966 consider the time it was written. The world was finally exhaling after holding it's collective breath for so many years. He was expressing the relief that everyone was feeling.

Tfw you write a sarcastic 9th Symphony but Stalin thinks you insulted him

tbh that's shostakovich's career in a nutshell

@@instinctbrosgaming9699 shostakovich knew that he was insulting stalin. wasn't that the whole point of it?

True, but (luvvie alert) part of the joy of Bernstein was that, while he made and illustrated his points wonderfully, he still made the odd mistake.

Cant agrre

100% - there’s always a sense of privilege in hearing what he has to say.

Corvinsound meanwhile I wrote my a level in fucking economics since we had no choice ..

Meanwhile I did no a-levels because I was too busy actually listening to the music.

i don't even live in germany lol

That video is amazing.

tantacrul* but yeah he's great

I'm here because of that, and I assure you I'm going to watch it many more times

That is a great analysis. I encourage everyone to watch it

Try Rick Beato for that sort of thing.

Vaughan Williams defined British music and changed symphonic music forever. I consider him a great composer for his lasting influence on film music, his dedication to folk music preservation, and his defiance against the long-exhausted teutonic tropes of European classical music. He captured the essence of war better than almost any composer in his 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th symphonies... which are diverse masterpieces ranging from hauntingly gorgeous, furiously brooding and atonal, and blissfully sublime. He also crafted a sound more distinct than most composers ever could, using unique harmony and modes to create shockingly beautiful music I believe deserves more respect. His 9th is absolutely stunning, a different kind of 9th from a different kind of composer that deserves more recognition. The piece isn't meant to be a 9th of 9ths, as Bernstein puts it, but more of a solemn and heart-breaking goodbye as well as a conclusion to work. Very good piece, go listen to it if you haven't. To people who've listened to all of Vaughan Williams's works, this one packs an extra punch. Again, highly recommend.

@@andreistoriei2050 Yes, I like Bernstein's analysis but it's strange how often British music gets overlooked. You mention VW but there is also a 9th symphony of Edmund Rubbra (1972), Havergal Brian (1951) and Alun Hoddinott (1992).

The western modes are basically analogous to the seven note scales found in Indian Classical music. It is a joy to come to the realization that all music is the same. There is only one type of music, but many types of people.

Nope...he is actually Mystique from XMen having some fun 0.47

Yes, Bernstein is Yoda. And he does yoga. Peace.

Yoda was Bernstein.

No Yoda IS Bernstein

... you're a comedian .... :)

Nothing exceeds or surpasses DSCH13

Fred Rogers was a composer, too.

I can think of no one less like Fred Rogers than Leonard Bernstein.

mozart also have a 9th

People seem to forget Dvorak which I do not understand. He is as good as anyone else. His music is absolutely beautiful!

Agree on Antonin's "New World". I also admire Vaughan Williams' moving 9th in e minor, written at the end of life. Also want to mention the neglected Joachim Raff (1822-1882), credited with 11 symphonies--very popular in their day--plus 6 operas that were never produced!

Great music, not really a great symphony, though, nor strictly mainstream as a symphony, either. Up until Mahler, symphonies in the 'correct' sense tended to be the province of teutons (not including Czechs). After Mahler, they rather gave up on the form and at this point the 'mainstream' of symphonies progressed more internationally, for example with Sibelius, Vaughan-Williams and, of course, Shostakovich.

Dvořak not included??? Since when? And did this sweeping dismissal of non-teutonic symphonic composers include Tchaikovsky? I find it difficult to associate Bernstein with prejudice on this scale!

He was 27, I think

Ja ras 1

Yes it was gung-ho and (apparently) nationalistic, but the 12th isn't one of Shostakovich's greatest symphonies.

He waited to celebrate with his tenth till after that wonderful day in 1953 when Stalin died.

I heard just a cabbage. Maybe bcause I was eating cabbage, while listening to Shosta. I dunno.

I do now!

Yes, but Shosty called him Byernstyin.

​@@gabbyhyman1246lol, how do you know?

Bernstein talks about great, well known composers, not Segerstams

Noobovitch Indeed, kind of weird he forgot in my opinion the second greatest 9th, especially when it quotes Beethoven so obviously in the Scherzo.

Noobovitch Indeed, he completely overlooked Dvorak.

Noobovitch shostakovich didn't, try to listen to the 2nd movement of his first cello concerto. the beginning is a literal quote from the beginning of Dvorak's 9th.

罗逍然 Shosty does love a good quote

Lenny mentions that in the scherzo, Shostakovich also quotes Mahler, do you know from what section of what Mahler symphony?

The 3rd. It's a slight variation but still recognizable quotation of a motif that permeates the entire 3rd.

I guess it is the 4th movement. The beginning part of it.

+Nick Sm Who says he had to list every composer???

Jennifer Benson he's obviously aware of those, especially Dvorak's, it's really a masterpiece. I think he does not mention it because he just wants to make his point about the pressure of the 9th; which is true I think.

AIUI, Dvorak regarded his first three or four symphonies as "practice"; IIRC, they weren't published in his lifetime, and the "New World" Symphony went out (I think) as No. 5.

Vietnamese Bomber, it's not that Beethoven couldn't - he established it in the first place, although he began work on his tenth as well.

Peter Brodie But you know the Symphony no 10 by Beethoven was unfinished and now so many people don't know it.

Vietnamese Bomber Yes, I know. And I don't think Beethoven would have been satisfied with the two movements that have been completed for him using his sketches. To my ear they're rather aimless. I appreciate that he'd achieved a degree of personal peace in his later years, but there's no real struggle left, especially in the second movement with its recall of the slow movement theme from the Pathétique piano sonata. Beethoven without struggle doesn't sound like Beethoven!

I'm sorry for Beethoven. Perhaps God felt the the great meaning of the Symphony no 9 and he thought that it was enough so he took Beethoven out of life.

Hoàng Kim Việt he died of lead poisoning from excessive wine consuming.not a heavenly way to die

@Saint Martin of Tours Catholic Church Just asking: do you know Bernstein or something? Because all the documentaries about him make the impression that he was not a lazy person, in fact a very hardworking person.

For copyright reasons

What does this mean?

Haydn wrote a staggering 104 complete symphonies in his lifetime, but most of them don't deviate very far from a very predictable formula when it comes to structure or instrumentation. I've heard the same joke told in a different way about Vivaldi's concertos. The joke is that all of Haydn's work is quite pleasant, and often funny, enough, but listening to five Haydn symphonies is like listening to one symphony played slightly differently five times in a row. This is in stark contrast to some of Haydn's symphonic successors, like Mozart, Schubert, and especially Beethoven, whose works (most people agree) are many times more ambitious.

+Sebastian Wang Sorry, but if you think Hayden’s symphonies are predictable you clearly haven’t heard a single one of them. Haydn might be the most unpredictable composer there is.

Critics of Vivaldi used a close sentence: Vivaldi composed the same concerto 500 times

Metroid Foosion no, they are very predictable. He was writing for the same dude for most of his life.

Well actually, Bernstein talks about great, well known composers, not Myaskovskys

1985

Too many beers

Vaughan Williams wrote his and died after Shosty's 9th, and the publishing order of Dvorak's was messed up several times. In the 50s, his 9th Symphony finally became the 9th. It was known as his 5th, then his 8th for a while, then people discovered the First Symphony in the 30s and it became the 9th. Both some of the best symphonies I have ever heard.

nope

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