So the dude from Conception just has children with every girl he knows and then uses them in battle against monsters? Dang and I thought Yu was a chad

For those wondering, you do not need to know anything about the fate universe before playing fate extra. It and its sequels kinda exist in its own universe where they has almost no connection with any other works in the franchise. Although there are characters and concepts that are introduced in other fate and/or type moon works. It explains everything you need to know about fairly well.

One game that wasn’t mentioned but is literally just SMT/Persona gameplay wise is Digimon Cyber Sleuth. Would definitely recommend anyone who’s a fan of the SMT series and looking for a spin on it check them out.

"This is probably the closest we'll ever get to a new devil summoner game" Thank record scratch he was mistaken....

If any of you are fans of SMT: Strange Journey, try giving Etrian Odyssey a shot. Also made by Atlus, and very challenging (3rd game is the most accessible one, so i'd recommend starting there.)

Nyarly: "As much as I hate to say it, this is probably the closest we'll ever get to a new Devil Summoner game..." Atlus: "Here's Soul Hackers 2 out of nowhere!" How? How do you keep willing these things into existence?

I actually really enjoyed the combat in Fate/Extra. It helps reinforce how important it is to learn as much as you can about your opponent. If you follow the individual arc stories to completion, you get a heads-up about the opponent's moveset, and as such can plan your moves accordingly much easier. It's the difference between getting mercilessly bopped and effortlessly shredding, for the majority of foes. As a result, it puts a lot of emphasis on listening to the story and following it's beats, since sometimes you can completely miss arc progression if you aren't paying attention. It also reflects how, in the series lore, it's extremely important to know who the enemy Servant is, as that knowledge informs you of their capabilities. Fate/Extra Record will likely be more accessible, and hopefully will adapt that theme somehow, but for what it is I actually thought Fate/Extra's combat was really fun.

1:45 Conception 2 8:25 Mind Approximately 12:55 Fate/Extra 19:09 The Lost Child

I'd describe Fate/Extra more like a visual novel with a turn based RPG side to it The combat is actually really fun if you pay attention to the patterns, especially for the bosses

(offtopic but) Congrats on reacing 100k mate!!!,While i never really got into fate extra/played it,it genuinely looks great and i gotta give it a try someday

I highly recommend Jeanne D'arc for the PSP. Its got a grid map, turn based gameplay, and a very good combat system. The story is good and a fantasy retelling of the tale of Joan of Arc as a JRPG with twists and changes that anyone can appreciate. Its kinda similar to Devil Survivor, tho I haven't played it.

Let's see...For Persona fans I'd say *Tokyo Xanadu EX+* on steam would be interesting. For SMT fans,there are some inspired games coming up this year. There is *Malice & Greed* in early access on Steam and *Eternal Exodus* got a demo out to play. I think I wanna try out The Lost Child

The Lost Child is 10 bucks on the eShop until the 10th, so I think I'll pick it up. I ended up dropping Soul Hackers (the loyalty system and the way the game handled demon negotiation weren't for me) but maybe I'll like this game more. Thanks for the recommendation.

The Cold Steel games do have some social sim elements, it is a bit light with more of a focus on the combat and story. One thing is it is part of a larger series, while you can play the game without playing the other games, you really get more out of the game playing them, since 3 take place before the events of Cold Steel, and 2 happen along side the events of Cold Steel I and II (those two games are also not out in the west yet)

My tips on fgo: Never try to understand what fate actually is.

Man, I absolutely loved Fate/Extra! It was my first exposure to the Fate series and what got me into it and Type-Moon overall. The combat system, while I see is a big hit-or-miss for people, I personally didn't mind. It kind of emphasized the idea that knowledge is key in winning a battle. (My first playthrough I picked Caster AKA Hard Mode)

Fate is long overdue for an amazing game. There’s so many servants to choose from, and if developers are worried about profit, there’s plenty of waifu bait to remedy that concern.

I was honestly expecting Caligula Effect to be on this list. Caligula 1 and it’s remake are flawed, but Caligula 2 is legitimately a great jrpg and one of my favorites from 2021

23:56 A month later Atlus announces a Soul Hackers sequel LMAO

I played the lost child a few years back and I remember liking it a lot, though I saw where it had some rough edges. I played it on normal difficulty, so take it with a grain of salt, but I thought the game was easy enough, Enoch just kind of blows everything out of the water once he gets some decent skills (watch out for that bug that will make Lua unable to learn skills ever if Enoch learns a skill before the skill tutorial.) I loved the occult theming throughout the game. Investigating paranormal stuff by talking to citizens and then going to the dungeon and fighting the demons responsible, It was just kinda my jam, you know? I agree with some astral designs being pretty lame, but they do get better as the game proceeds. Also, it takes a really, really long time for you to be able to remove an astral from your party, was it just me? That feature didn't seem to unlock until way late in the game. I was impressed that the creator of el shaddai ended up having to buy the rights to the game so that he could make the lost child. I guess he just loved the world that he created and wanted to expand it himself. I guess you could say he wanted to give it some TLC. LOL

I find it ironic that the best way to have fun with fate/extra's combat is to use caster to completely circumvent the RPS system and stunlock your opponent.

I'm so glad to see someone else bring up The Lost Child, it's a title I'm passionate about and had a lot of fun with, the unique mechanics it introduces makes the experience extremely worth it to experience, and I think the supporting cast for this title is one of the strongest I've seen in an RPG for a long time On the topic of the designs for the Astrals, I really liked how each alignment had an overarching design ethos, it really made the entire roster of monsters diverse and fun

I think a rock-paper-scissors combat can be good if done right. It gives a sense of strategy and memorization, which I can get behind.

I'm really not familiar with Fate as a whole, but I think I have an idea why the gameplay of Fate/Extra is made this way and it's to reinforce the idea that you need a very solid planning of your moves. You and your opponent are in a 1v1 duel and are sort of equal in strength, the one who can outmanouver and outsmart another wins, so they tried to emulate the mind games that come from trying to predict what your opponent will do and how you wanna condition them to respond but in a turn based system

Aww, you didn't mention my favorite game similar to Persona/SMT: Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE.

I was hoping somebody would eventually talk about Mind Zero.

Shadow Hearts and it's sequel Covenant are also pretty great occultism-modern dark fantasy RPGs, also it has one of the best protagonists in video games I've seen.

Congratulations on hitting 100k Nyarly! Also, this video is exactly what I needed since I just finished Strange Journey and don't have anything else to play. So thanks!

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So thankfully you mentioned Fate as being similar to SMT. As one who loves both series a lot, especially because of how both approach mythology and historical characters in various ways, this was a really good video. Fate Extra Record is coming soon, and its ditching the rock-paper-scissor mechanic, and so far it looked way better. So yeah, its gonna be fun. I know Fate and SMT both are mythology based but they are too different. But! I think both SMT and Fate fans could have enjoyment in the other series. Maybe not totally, but both offer different things so while they have a similar theme, its still unique enough. So yeah, if you like SMT, you might like Fate. If you like Fate, you might like SMT! I certainly love both series!

Oooh, this is a really fun video topic! I actually have most of these in my backlog and am looking forward to them, but I apparently definitely need to pick up The Lost Child! As for other MegaTen-alikes, the Caligula Effect games are most definitely worth a look

I think you were right about who Fate/Extra would appeal to, as you described me perfectly. As a Fate fan who just was there to get the lore and start the series (since CCC, Extella, and Extella Link all follow from Extra), it was pretty fun and it kept me engaged at the very least. While I definitely don't disagree that the game's combat system is lacking, I think everything else was just too good for me to think of it negatively.

0:07 the background music is, Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, The Cyber Sleuth if anyone was wondering.

Where’s Donkey Kong Country?

The Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth duology is basically SMTmon

Zanki Zero: Last Beginning needs more love if you like your dungeon crawlers with some dark overtones and a mysterious story check it out

I think I've used most of my luck of this year for new Nyarly video

Congratulations on reaching 100k subs my dude 🎉

Man, so sad that this is the first time I’ve heard about The Lost Child, only to go look it up and find out it got delisted last year.

Sorta similar, there is a game on the PS1 called Legend of Legaia. In it there are these monsters called seru who helped humanity, but we're driven mad by this strange mist that started appearing. The heroes equip themselves with a special ra-seru that attaches to their arm and allows them to absorb seru to summon as magic. The combat system is also very unique, requiring the player to make special moves out of different combinations of up down left right. Amazing game, 10/10

Was really surprised you didn't know about: Tokyo Xanadu eX+ tbh expected it to be early on in the video lol but great video otherwise, as usual!

I STRONGLY recommend Tokyo Xanadu. It's action RPG combat, but the characters and story go really in-depth in a fun episodic anime style structure. Its setting is also similar to Persona 5 despite releasing a few years before it. Particularly when one of the party members is basically male Futaba.

Another game in this same vein of rpg mechanics and a relationship system, I recommend Ar Tonelico: Melodies of Elemia. It's admittedly on the older side, but the art and music still hold up really well in my opinion. And the story has very persona 4 vibes

You missed Caligula for "persona-likes", it even had some of the original persona staff working on it like Satomi Tadashi

10:54 featuring Dante from Devil May Cry

Concept 2 i think is base on a anime where male mc and his female class mate gets stuck in some fantasy world where they have to defect some kind some evil to go back to their world and to help mc mc gets star children with 7 female sage including his female class mate.. unlike the game they sleep together to give birth to star children...

Quick heads up for those who want to try Fate/Extra: play them on emulator and use save-states because, honestly, it's the best way to play it. I played the Caster route and it was kind of hard going through the game with no safe net... Also, there is not a Fate/Extra anime.

Good job on 100k

I'm honestly really looking forward to the remake of Fate Extra

people love to shit on it but i actually loved the rock/paper/scissors combat of fate extra.

I hadn't heard that Fate: Extra is getting a remake. It's one of those games I was always really curious about, but didn't have a PSP so I never got it, and if the remake makes the combat more interesting than RPS, I'll get it for sure.

2 years later and I'm still waiting for word on Fate/Extra Record

When I woke up today, I wasn't expecting Nyarly to talk about Fate. But I'm glad he did.

Fate extra was good imo but i like it despite it's issues. And best to import the remake as type Moon doesn't localize some of there titles

Playing cyber sleuth music but then not having it on the list has me mad confused

Whilr gameplay is quiet different, Ar Tonelico has a lot of similar social elements with the Persona games to the point its important since like Persona it actually helps you in combat sinxe its the only way to access stronger magic, in this case Song Magic. Hell the main social mechanic of the Ar Tonelico series, The Cosmosphere, is similar to Social Links since its all about getting to know and explore other characters although Ar Tonelico goes deeper in depth since you do it by traveling to worlds inside the persons mind sinilar to Palaces. I would recommend the 2nd if you want the best experience if you ever want to check them out.

Posting this BEFORE watching the video, but to anyone wanting to pick up The Lost Child, DO be aware that it does have some game breaking bugs that still havent been patched. Ones that I discovered I will write as follows. Its a good game...I think? Just...beware: In this game your demons learn skills semi-randomly during battle. IF a demon happens learns a skill before the tutorial TELLS you how learning skills work, your main ally (Basically Nemissa from Soul Hackers who can never be removed) will never ever learn a skill. So reload and try to reach the skill learning tutorial without your demons learning anything. Next. The optional 100 floor dungeon. Should you choose to tackle this, once you beat floor 80, DO NOT LEAVE, like I did. Its a tough floor so youll naturally want to exit and save, but dont. Leaving on floor 80 locks you out of the rest of that dungeon, meaning you can never beat the postgame. I lost maybe 60 hours of dungeon crawling to this and still havent gone back to redo it all. Go up to floor 81, and use the exit on that floor instead. I havent played in a long time, but if I remember any other bugs, I will edit them into this comment. I do not want people going through what I did.

Babe wake up, new Nyarly upload

Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner is like SMT meets Pokemon by Atlus on psp

welcome back nyarly! your solo vids are my fav!

For those who looking for a persona like game i reccomend trails of cold steel

Touhou: ADiA, just Touhou: ADiA. This is fan game in Touhou world with classic MegaTen gameplay + some quality of life features and post game dungeon. I also recommend Etrian Odyssey.

I been meaning to try out Mind Zero for the very bizarre reason that one of the OST songs is called Kohntarkosz, the name of an album by the 70s french band Magma and I want to see if there is any more references to the group in the game. You don't end up naming something Kohntarkosz unless you really know Magma and zeuhl. If you have played the game and terms like Zeuhl Wortz, Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré, Nëbëhr Gudahtt, Mëkanïk Kömmandö, Kreühn Köhrmahn, etc have appear in the game, please let me know. Sorry for the bizarre request but I tried playing the PC port and it kept on crashing on me so haven't had a change to investigate it myself.

Cool video! I had heard of these before but never quite tried to give them a chance, after seeing to video I will probably do soon! Also I really appreciate how you are fair with the games, point out the good and the bad without over hyping or trashing it.

Have you ever done a video on the ps1 game Jade Cocoon? its a unique turn based jrpg that actually got me on the jrpg hype train. the "cocoon" system is very unique and fun and would love to hear your thoughts.

I've wanted a Furi or No More Heroes boss rush game for fats for so long. Honestly, with the current way of cramming 100 servants in each game, I'd want one with just 7 and maybe some secret ones.

SMT V is my favorite Pokémon game.

Did Nyarly just coined the term MegamiLike?

For those interested The Lost Child Happens to be on sale for the next 16 hours on the Switch

If you like the 1st person dungeon crawling of Persona Q & Q2 (especially Persona Q & Q2), Devil Summoner & Soul Hackers, Strange Journey, SMT 1, 2 & If....., and even both MT games, I'd highly recommend Etrian Odyssey. Sure it doesn't have fusions or negotiations, but it has a character creator and skill trees instead. Also, you get to draw the map, and most of the dungeons aren't as frustrating and confusing as some of the ones in SMT. *cough cough* World of Sloth and Sector Eridanus *cough cough*. Emphasis on most, because postgame dungeons LOVE their teleports and one-way shortcuts. It also has the SMT level challenge that I know y'all crave. BTW, binds and ailments are about as important in EO as buffs and debuffs are in Shin Megami Tensei. Also, they might seem generic and lighthearted story-wise, but *HOOOOOOO BOY* will that not be the case for super long. People who have beaten the first game or its remake will know exactly what I'm talking about. Let's just say you're in for one hell of a twist.

Really wished you mentioned Tokyo Xanadu. Like Persona, it takes place around a high school setting and uses the calendar system to split up combat and social outings. It’s story isn’t too much to write about and tbh the dungeons and monsters are pretty generic. But the characters are what really makes this game special. If anyone wants to give it a go, it’s usually on sale for 11$ on PS4 or steam.

The Mary Skelter games from Compile Heart are also pretty solid first person dungeon crawlers. Originally vita games, they're also on switch and PC now. Mary Skelter 2 also contains the first game if you buy it on switch/PC. The games take place inside a living tower, complete with meaty doors and walls with eyeballs. The characters are all from various fairy tales, like Rapunzel and Sleepying Beauty. It's standard turn based combat with each character getting a set of classes to choose from. The twist comes in the bloodstain mechanic. Hitting weak points or overkilling enemies stains team members with blood, which they can consume to enter a personal powered up state, or can lick off other team members to give the whole party an effect. Staining the dungeon itself with blood is permanent (it even persists if you leave the dungeon and come back) and affects things like light and encounter rate. There's quite a bit of content to be had: a few more mechanics I didn't mention (like invincible bosses that chase you through dungeons), a story that is pretty trope-heavy but has a few twists, both EN and JP voice acting is available, and several difficulty options. Overall, I had a good time with it.

“You’ll go into mind break” You’ll go into fucking what now?

Outside Fate that I already own, all of these picks have been games on my radar for a long time, so I do look forward to giving these all a try

I've chimed in with others in the comments but just wanted to say thanks the entertaining video. I feel passionately about most of the games in the vid and was so surprised about the choices. I think the debate will rage on so will keep the vid close by to allow me to see what other folks recommend. I feel humbled to see others passionate about games I thought were off the radar completely. All the best!!

I'm surprised you didn't cover Tokyo Xanadu. The combat's more on the action RPG side but everything else seems pretty SMT-y.

Ok, so apparently Conception II got Shinichirou Otsuka , the *Re:Zero* artist to do character art for it. No wonder the art style looked so familiar.

The thing about the CONCEPTION series is that, despite Conception II being the first game in the series to get a western release, it wasn't as much loved by some of the veterans back when it was released. And it kinda died down over time... UNTIL Conception I got a Western Release/Remaster just very recently and it kinda is the best game to start out with if anyone's interested. As someone who played the original Conception game.... on the PSP... in Japanese... with absolutely no clue back then what was happening, it's pretty fun. I'm of the same mindset that the sequel just nerfs the concepts previously explored, and anyone trying the series out should start with the Former.

I think your criticisms of fate/extra are very fair but I also think you should check out how the other servants play (since you only showed saber gameplay, which is the most reliant on basic attacks), I think archer introduces a good middle ground between having to use your skills and having good basic attacks so you dont have to go hard on either, and caster (IMHO best girl) goes really hard into spells, which is a detriment and a godsend at the same time, her basics are pretty pathetic but they do in a pinch, however due to her having recoverable mp and more mp overall, she really allows you to to play the game differently, you can now take control of the battle and reduce risks by using skills during unknown attacks, nullfying anything but skills, she's much less memorization heavy but at the expense of also having really weak defense, which personally made me enjoy the gameplay a lot more, (not to mention she was harder to play overall, AND dumping everything into magic didnt help haha, since I am also one of those who plays RPGs for difficult gameplay)

CONCEPTION IS ON PC????? That game legit dissapeared from the internet.

I think some might like Fire Emblem 3 Houses. You choose how to spend your limited time each month either battling or building relationships with students. You can recruit new party members, and you even fight demonic beasts

Mind 0 was a great game and wish it had a sequel. The Minds/persona like play more of a role in battle than a Persona that basically just your skills. I played P1 and I would argue the gameplay and dungeon are better, though the story isn't as interesting. Story is decent though. Fate Extra fights aren't that bad. I also wouldn't call it hard. Very rarely would you ever lose to an enemy encounter and only boss fights are somewhat difficult but that's the fun. Having to actually predict your opponents moves and thinking ahead was a great element to the gameplay that turn base just doesn't have and is somewhat dull.

Hi, guy who is only semi into Fate here, waiting to play the original VN to fully dive into it, Fate Extra is basically it's own thing, but at the same time, some of the characters and concepts from other Fate works are put into Fate Extra, and some of the Fate Extra characters are in games like the Musous, and Fate Grand Order.

Favorite part is the Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth OST at the start, a man of culture I see. P.S. congrats on 100K subs btw just noticed you hit the milestone

good thing nyarly didn’t talk about the japan-only follow-up game to Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra CCC. it’s kind of like the Sakura route in Fate/Stay Night whilst Fate/Extra has the metaphorical Saber and Rin route. it’s the same game, but with a slightly different UI. it also has a fourth servant you can choose (but i ain’t telling who it is). my guess as to why it wasn’t localized was probably due to the SPICE (read: lewd scenes) it had. if you wanna tackle it yourself, then you have to put up with pure japanese text and pray to every god there’s a translated walkthrough of it. the translation of the game isn’t done yet (but it might be this year, who knows), and choices matter much more here than in the original. fun fact, kinoko nasu once allegedly stated that Extra CCC was going to be the last thing he was going to involve himself in with the Fate franchise. that was a fucking lie.

Another game exactly like SMT is Demon Gaze Extra. It is by the same developer who made The Lost Child, Kadokawa Games. There is an enhanced remaster for Switch that came out very recently. Demon Gaze Extra is a first person dungeon crawler that is extremely difficult even on normal. You catch demons using what's known as the demon gaze. The catch is the longer you have a demon out, the more demon resource they drain. If the resource hits 0 then the demon will go berserk and attack you. As the MC you can have up to 3 demons out at a time. Demon Gaze Extra has some nice mechanics. Though unlike The Lost Child or mainline SMT there is a small selection of obtainable demons that are captured via story missions.

I've been meaning to get the HD remaster of SMT Nocturne but I want to wait until they fix the compression music. As someone who got into the series from Persona I really enjoy it.

Blue Reflection franchise is also kinda similar to Persona to some extend and it's really need more love.

Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth is the closes to a Megaten experience that I've seen thus far

Congrats on the 100k!

I started playing extra mainly because I'm waiting for the sequel's fan translation to be finished. Still haven't gotten my servant, probably picking archer, but I'm super excited to play CCC because some of my favorite characters like BB and Meltryllis are in the game, and it's a shame the game never got localized because it would be a hard M rating

Of these games, the one that interests me is The Lost Child. I hope we see more videos like this soon, because I'm always looking for more RPG's that take a page out of SMT's book. Megami Tensei games have been the golden standard for JRPG's, so I'm surprised more of them haven't caught up yet in terms of quality-of-life improvements. That being said, are there any JRPG's or indie RPG's with a similar style to older SMT games? I'm not talking monster-collection per-se, but a more grounded, dark or mature setting? Or anything that's got that dark, violent OVA charm to it? Maybe with a similar urban or 90's cyberpunk setting? I'd love to know it more inspired games exist out there. Even Japanese/indie games from other genres that have a similar style.

if you enjoy action JRPGs, I cannot beg you enough to give Tokyo Xanadu eX+ a try. In my opinion it matches Persona in visuals and music, and the cast feels a lot like a persona game, with bonding episodes between the protag and party characters. The story is definitely weaker than a persona game, and it can get a little weird sometimes, but the writing is still good and there's none of those pervy/ cringy scenes that Atlus like putting in. However, where this game really shines (especially if you love thoroughly exploring a world) is the world building - every NPC feels like their own unique character, and every location and shop feels different and useful. Gameplay is super fun and easy to pick up, even if you haven't played other action RPGs - combat feels smooth and the dungeons are fun and varied. I literally can't stress how much fun I've had with this game, and I feel like it gets a lot of slack for being a Persona "clone", but I feel like it's different enough from Persona that it definitely shouldn't be ignored!!

Congrats on the 100k subs Nyarly!

The combat in Conception 2 actually gets a lot harder the more you get into it (Or at least I thought so maybe I just sucked at it) It get's pretty interesting cause eventually you can unlock more classes for the kids to be born into however those classes are locked behind stat thresholds and only certain heroines can give your kids the right stats to be able to be born into that class (For example Feene gives your kids more Defense which makes it easier for them to become a paladin and Ellie gives your kids more magic which is good for making mages). And since you need to have high affection with a heroine in order to make stronger kids this means that if you want the best teams possible then you need to prioritize hanging out with ALL the girls as opposed to just your favorites which I think is pretty cool. Despite it's weird premise and far from perfect story or characters I still thought it was a pretty underrated gem on the vita when I first played it. Glad to see someone talking about it for once

conception II battle music: Baby, baby, baby Mass Destruction: Baby, Baby, Baby.

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I'm probably in the minority but I think Fate/Extra will forever be a favourite of mine While the combat was frustrating when I first played it I actually loved it, having to learn enemy patterns and "comand" my servant gave me a real sense of being a master, the game highly encourages you to learn patterns and once you find out clues about your enemies you can see what they are going to do and figure out the whole pattern.

I don't at all blame you for considering F/E as more slog than it's worth. As a TM fan I loved the story and made it to the end of the first route, but it wasn't enough to make me look fondly on the dungeon crawling or even the overworld exploration.