Simon Jordan CLAIMS Fans Do NOT Have The RIGHT To Have THEIR SAY On VAR! 😬🔥

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Simon Jordan, Jim White & Martin O'Neill debate if VAR is ruining entertaining football for fans in the Premier League.
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@jat1994 28 күн бұрын

No fans no football simple as that

@britpackdog4545 28 күн бұрын

Read my mind

@SMO1784 28 күн бұрын

@TalorcMacAllan-jh9meI’d rather here from your mum

@SMO1784 28 күн бұрын

@@britpackdog4545read your mums mind

@britpackdog4545 28 күн бұрын

@@SMO1784 I'd rather not

@SMO1784 28 күн бұрын

@@britpackdog4545 fair enough

@jalenn757 28 күн бұрын

Maybe fans should stop their subscription to sky/tnt and maybe they should stop listening/ringing up talksport and see how long it all lasts then.

@TruRedCRIME 28 күн бұрын

youre too addicted itll never happen

@yasssighs6034 28 күн бұрын

Fans to sign players too?

@simonclark3233 27 күн бұрын

@@yasssighs6034at some clubs they do, so silly comment from you 😂

@paul2524 28 күн бұрын

You only listen to Fans when it aligns with your own narrative, otherwise you literally mock them.

@PerfectMask1 28 күн бұрын

Or turn off the KZfaq comments

@conradmoore7095 28 күн бұрын

If fans dont then i guess fans should stop going to games and buy viewership then. How about that simon?

@MiguelonZE 28 күн бұрын

True, but you'll keep watching because football fans are chumps. There is so little solidarity within fans, they actually have very little power because of it.

@user-kg4cr1jq8o 28 күн бұрын

Tell that to the super league hahaha@@MiguelonZE

@Redman680 28 күн бұрын

@user-kg4cr1jq8o You're deluded if you actually believe that the fans stopped that lol. It was because of the implications of the financial & legal penalties. They framed it that way so the fans felt like they'd been heard........despite being ignored while the project was conceived.

@johnr2436 28 күн бұрын

96% right? Are PGMOL marking their own homework?

@wolvezy 28 күн бұрын

Football is nothing without fans

@hollyjenkins1500 28 күн бұрын

Sir Matt busby

@nickhughes2434 28 күн бұрын

VAR is shite

@trevorkeating229 28 күн бұрын

Jim has his own rendition of the word football.

@nickchivers9029 28 күн бұрын

We buy the tickets, the merch, the tv subscriptions - we get a say. Literally every company that sells a product wants to hear feedback from customers about how to improve the product. I wouldve thought business mogul Simon Jordan wiuld understand that basic concept.

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

He just said fans don’t have a ‘right’ which is true. If you’re a consumer you’re already getting the product you knowingly paid for.

@Lion_lockheart 28 күн бұрын

Why can’t we have a say on var because it affects all fans there to

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

No one in this video said we can’t have a say on VAR.

@CJ4YRD 27 күн бұрын

And as a fan, failed owners dont get to have an opinion on anything related to the sport in which they failed in..

@richiec808 27 күн бұрын

Where is martin o'neil getting these var stats from when footballs subjective, how can you say they get 96% correct?

@TomBerishaj 26 күн бұрын

Simon is 100% correct. Fans get a vote, but they vote with their pounds. If they don't like it, stop paying for it -- and the people who chase those pounds will listen. Anything short of that is just emotional outbursts by people trying to use a power they simply don't have.

@GoogleMeAgain 28 күн бұрын

Simon has the biggest mouth in Britain. For Failed chairman he sure has a view on everything and anything. If he knew as much as he thinks he does then he wouldn’t have failed as a chairman.

@adammohamed.. 28 күн бұрын

Wasn’t it the financial crisis that hit him ? It’s just too simpleton what you’re saying.

@GoogleMeAgain 28 күн бұрын

@@adammohamed.. he’s a loud mouthed individual thinks he knows knows everything. He should be a bit more humble in his views. Pompous arrogant rich boy. And he owned a football club he failed simpleton right enough.

@denisako6493 28 күн бұрын

Most people are here because of him

@davidj8321 28 күн бұрын

@@adammohamed.. oh yeah the crisis only affected crystal palace didn't it

@dannyboy9573 28 күн бұрын

name me someone who hasn't failed and I'll tell you there's someone that never tried anything.

@Andysw6 26 күн бұрын

The fans are also stakeholders of the game and are quite right to have an input on all decisions that centre around the governance of the game.

@TruRedCRIME 28 күн бұрын

Fans should be heard but I wouldnt take Mike from the pub into a board room to make decisions. Even football managers need a director of football, a specialist in that area. Most football fans are just tribal heathens begging their team to provide them a sense of meaning. That isnt someone that should be in a board room or a coaching session.

@HpSingh5911 27 күн бұрын

Spot on mate , people working their regular jobs be telling people in football who’ve done this their whole life and are the 0.01% of the people to make it in the game what and how to do in absolute ways , opinions should be allowed and listened for sure and the game belongs to fans but critical and decisive insights and decisions should be made by calm and professional people

@joesheppard5960 28 күн бұрын

Let the wallet talk then

@campfirefootball 27 күн бұрын

Let's do an eye test on Sunday. Of all the goals scored, how many are not celebrated by players for fear that VAR is going to chalk off the goal?

@wolves356 28 күн бұрын

They keep saying there more correct decisions, But really who cares if a toe is offside

@Marklovesdrama 27 күн бұрын

If VAR was scrapped, after the first clanger was made, people would say bring back VAR! !!!!!

@jmnd2682 26 күн бұрын

Simon is hilarious. The fans pay the money so they do indeed have a say

@thegreenbaizevampire 27 күн бұрын

Where did he get the stat about correct decisions? Who decided which were correct?

@VincentOfTheTrades 27 күн бұрын

96% only according to PGMoL and the Prem. Until that stat is verified by a 3rd party it’s utterly worthless

@dnc9952 28 күн бұрын

Careful what you wish for!! How will taking VAR improve overall decisions ? look at the UCL Semi Final between RM va BM, that will happen every week.

@nickchivers9029 28 күн бұрын

Don't be ridiculous.

@worldsforliving 27 күн бұрын

What did Eddie Hearn call Jordan, a disc jockey.

@shaunwilliams846 27 күн бұрын

VAR is like going to a fish and chip shop and finding out your fish is actually battered tofu. The chips are the same, the batter is the same but the main ingredient, the fish is gone. Sorry, they have changed the product before my eye and are still expecting me to pay for it. I am the customer for gods sake, I want my product back. If I wanted to watch a video game I would have brought a PS5.

@dannybradley8391 27 күн бұрын

If you take out the decisions for offside, there cannot be a 14% swing. Var simply doesn't correctly overturn an average of 14% of all decisions per game. You must also take into consideration the amount of responsibility they must take for incorrect decisions they don't overturn because they are not deemed "clear and obvious". Therefore the technology for automated offsides solves the problem. No more waiting around for fans for a system that outside of offsides impacts the decision making in a game a tiny amount and a lot of the time poorly.

@eiler1987 27 күн бұрын

Right! Because they deem at times that the on field is in a good position to see the incident so it isn’t a “clear and obvious “ so we just stick with the on field. Or the “ if it was given it wouldn’t be overturned, and if it wasn’t VAR won’t step in” hate that. It either is or it isn’t

@directorme6669 28 күн бұрын

And Pundits do? If fans shouldn't have a say then just retire the damn game which means Simon Jordan's job is over!

@butler-sp8bw 28 күн бұрын

Well said Simon .

@leppycon 28 күн бұрын

PGMOL, The Premiership and clubs feel the same way, Simon is just saying it out loud.

@ChillingnThrilling 28 күн бұрын

The game at this level only exists due to the fans. Therefore, the fans are the backbone of the league and the game in general, the majority of the money in the game is pumped into the game by the fan. Fans should be allowed to have a say one way or another. VAR is a great idea, but its not being used for what it was introduced for. Get the ref and var mic'ed up and let the crowd hear it. I also think ex players are better placed to run VAR alongside an official.

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

It’s ridiculous to think fans have a right to though. They already have their biggest way to have their say which would be to simply voting with their wallets. After all fans are simply consumer of the product.

@knoxy6884 27 күн бұрын

Fans do have a right to have their say about anything football related however supporters groups shouldn't feel entitled to be consulted about decisions made behind the scenes. They don't have the right to demand to be informed about what happens with VAR.

@leonwilks4114 28 күн бұрын

The more I watch games in the championship and lower down the pyramid, the more I despise VAR, abolish it until its working as it was intended too

@jimsouthsea 18 күн бұрын

What would Simon say if everyone stopped buying tickets?

@andresaguilar723 28 күн бұрын

I'm with Simon on this one, of course you must consider the fans on every decision, they are the heart and soul of the game in the end. But... I don't think fans should have a call on this decisions, or any other decision for the club, that's why they have managers and people capable of taking those decisions for the better of the club. If fans have a call no team will be able to manage itself if they need to hear every single fan before making a move.

@kevinb9830 28 күн бұрын

But this isn;t a manger's call either. This is directly affecting the enjoyment of the game for fans of all teams.

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

Exactly this. Fans don’t have a right anyway because they’re simply consumers of a product who choose to keep finding the sport by choice. It would be hugely impractical anyway. No one who says fans have a right ever explain how it would actually work and how fans would be represented.

@ashleyhulme4931 28 күн бұрын

Yes we do have a right we pay in

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

Yes, your way to have a say is to vote with your wallet.

@ashleyhulme4931 27 күн бұрын

@@jonathanmarkham1998 yeah exactly congratulations on your promotion to league 1 I come from Oldham hopefully we'll be back in league 1 in a few years

@bs42sw6 27 күн бұрын

Perhaps we should just listen to Simon Jordon and ignore everyone else then. He’s a former club chairman and his comments illustrate how supporters are viewed by those who are in a position of power in the game. Without the fans football is nothing so they tell us. Often their actions contradict that.

@itsls2243 28 күн бұрын

Football is business that has customers. Customer don’t like VAR > Business scrap VAR >customer happy >Football is back

@Benjio1983 27 күн бұрын

Without the fans, the game is dead.

@craigshackleton1652 26 күн бұрын

If fans were strong enough to give up their season tickets and stop paying for sky that would be having a say. I have only been to maybe three live matches since 2003. Those games were only when a relative couldn’t use their season ticket. Otherwise I wouldn’t go. I grew tired of the hate chanting against Liverpool people that passes for banter and the way in which football is moving.

@Marais-cu3vo 27 күн бұрын

Simon and TalkSport and other media in general despise the fans. Remember who pays your salary.

@carlstartup 28 күн бұрын

Answer to OFFSIDE RULE....... THE ATTACKERS BOTH FEET HAVE TO BE OFFSIDE ,BOTH FEET. , NOT 1 FOOT OR A SWINGING ARM, ....... THEYS NO ADVANTAGE, GOING NOWHERE WITHOUT YOUR FEET.......... ARMS HANDS ARE NOT ALLOWED BUT ALLOWED TO BE OFFSIDE IF SWINGING IF LEANING IN,,, A HEAD CAN BE IN A OFFSIDE POSTION.... WTF...

@eiler1987 27 күн бұрын

How about a still image, no lines no zoom, just still image and make a call. Are they off or on.

@CJ4YRD 27 күн бұрын

Offside is fine as it is. Semi automated will or should completely irradicate the wait time after a goals scored.. what needs to be fixed is the handball inconsistencies and the inconsistent decisions as to what's a foul, dissent, time wasting etc.. all of which would be easily resolved if you sit and think for 30 seconds

@eiler1987 27 күн бұрын

@@CJ4YRD or the looking for a foul in build up. I don’t think we should be zooming down to the mm for offsides because of shutter speed, frame rates, speed of play and what not.

@CJ4YRD 27 күн бұрын

@@eiler1987 I don't have an issue with looking for a foul in the build up. So long as its within 15 seconds of a goal. Any longer than that its a different phase of play imo. In football 15 seconds is a long time 🤣 an as ive stated the semi automated offside will basically irradicate that as it will be automatically done as its happening..

@afcvigilante9274 28 күн бұрын

If Simon Jordan had his way no fan would speak their mind and keep quiet .

@nickchivers9029 28 күн бұрын

Where are all these fans demanding anything other than our opinion be heard? None of us are demanding that fans sit of every board at every level. This is such a boring point that Simon trots out every time a conversation about fans opinion comes up.

@leemurphy1064 28 күн бұрын

Of course we do its our sport or does the term football is nothing without fans onli apply in certain circumstances

@user-le8ks4hu3f 28 күн бұрын

The man that has an opinion on literally everything thinks others should keep quiet.

@DARREN-yv9pb 26 күн бұрын

Why not Simon?

@Jericho642 28 күн бұрын

Fans dont have a right to have their say. But Simon Jordon does? Make it make sense…

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

He didn’t say fans don’t have a right to have their say. You clearly didn’t bother to watch the video before commenting, silly.

@TrevorLittle-em8mg 26 күн бұрын

What gives Simon Jordan the right to sit on radio and gives us his opinion?

@craig3420 28 күн бұрын

Simon getting daring with a shorter haircut..we see u jordan

@ahmedyasin9569 27 күн бұрын

Only thieves don't like security cameras. -Jose Mourinho

@deeppocketsshortarms2830 28 күн бұрын

Sick of hearing stats from Jim. Just go and watch a game of Premier league football it is horrific viewing. I support my local non league team every weekend now

@eiler1987 27 күн бұрын

Or stats with no context. Cool they are microscopic and getting offsides correct so that number goes up. Yet refs still have jobs who have failed to draw lines

@andrejessoneka133 28 күн бұрын

Simon has right to say that fans have no right to say yes/no to VAR. Fans have right to say that Simon is an idiot, just like those people who want to keep VAR alive. It's the a matter of freedom of speech (which Simon failed to advocate). Although freedom of speech is bad for every business controlled by oligarchs. Football today is a matter of that kind of business model. A business that won't survive without fans. Anyway, I'm using my right to say whatever I want to say. And for sure, Simon will say: "Every right comes with consequences."

@marilynbodasing9393 28 күн бұрын

Simon would love to live in an autocratic old world with heirarchical systems of control!

@peacefulliberal5641 28 күн бұрын

Imagine saying that in Bundesliga, fans made sure Simon is fired right away. But no, in England and in EPL fans have no saying and respect. No wonder Bundesliga is called best league in the world.

@garyross4602 28 күн бұрын

Well here's an idea then, get the fans to buy out the clubs and become their owners, then they can their say as much as they want, job done. Alternatively, vote with their feet and stop going to matches. The issue is that every fan has his, her, or its, own individual agenda, but actually put them in position to decisions within a business that they have little actual understanding of [as opposed to an opinion on] and watch it turn to rat manure at a rapid rate of knots.

@darrenb3214 27 күн бұрын

I like SJ on certain things but he really does look down on the ordinary fan. The most important person in football is the fan. If there’s no bums on seats or viewers at home, then there’s no advertisement. No advertisement, means no lucrative TV revenue. No TV revenue, then very little income. Very little income, then no big salaries. Never forget just how powerful you are as a football fan. And f-k the opinions of these people that literally cannot run a football club and have to sell it for a pound 😂

@Lacedaemonia 28 күн бұрын

We just pay to endure virtue-signalling, Lucy Ward, knee-bending, flags, hypocrisy and corruption and have no right to complain when the rules and experience of even the game itself is ruined? WHAT?!?!

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

If you hate it so much stop funding it instead of whining.

@naval-nation2259 28 күн бұрын

Dont try talking us like mugs who tf do u think u are. Its not ur game its OUR GAME!!!!!!!

@kylowhen2639 28 күн бұрын

Try English

@adammohamed.. 28 күн бұрын

An as Simon says what is it you’re gonna do apart from crying moan.

@kevinb9830 28 күн бұрын

Of course we have the right - without us the game is nothing.

@wickedmanrick2582 28 күн бұрын

Yeah cause fans made messi talent😂😂😂😂😂

@kevinb9830 27 күн бұрын

@@wickedmanrick2582 'wickedmanrick', as is always the case with anyone who uses that many emojis to convey something you aren't doing or feeling, you are a moron.

@kush_ste 28 күн бұрын

Just Simon showing his disdain for the common man yet again.

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

Is it disdain for the common man or just living in reality? How would you carry out ‘fans’ having a meaningful say in decisions like this?

@helmtk4562 28 күн бұрын

They should put a timer on decisions like 30 seconds or something

@guvnormcfc66 28 күн бұрын

As a match going fan who does blockhead think he is,your team scores then you have to wait before you can celebrate,its a bag of shite,taken a lot of fun out of the game.perhaps jordans love of football come only from the money making side of the game.What a blurt!!

@lfcspectre4335 28 күн бұрын

Elite Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@WillHughes-fk7cu 27 күн бұрын

Simon shouldn’t have the right to say anything on football as a failed football club owner

@user-qj9pj1sx5d 27 күн бұрын

Simon is arrogant on a different level. What is football without the fans? Maybe the owners should be watching their teams play and thats good enough

@sean5811 28 күн бұрын

Well football fans can vote with their wallet. Cancel all your sky subscriptions, lobby advertiser's to boycott the media and don't buy merchandise. Not belong before they uturn and say sorry we were wrong. No wonder he failed at palace. Don't listen to fans lol. I do like Simon but sometimes he contradicts himself.

@stephenxx8045 28 күн бұрын

Just can’t listen to a grown man stuttering every word. Drives me nuts.

@user-md9sp5nc2c 28 күн бұрын

simon doesn’t have a say either so what does his opinion matter

@umanggada8684 28 күн бұрын

I think the best way to use VAR is like it is being done in cricket. You let the team who feel aggrieved decide when they want to invoke it. And give limited chances for when you can call for VAR.

@wintermarcus1504 28 күн бұрын

For your information Simon,football clubs can't stand without fans.The fans are the clients or customers so all what should be done by these football clubs should be in favour of the fans

@adammohamed.. 28 күн бұрын

And what are fans without the clubs and the players ? Remember watching those 11 players is a huge part of peoples lives if you take it away then what ?

@nickchivers9029 28 күн бұрын

@@adammohamed.. what on earth are you talking about?

@adammohamed.. 28 күн бұрын

@@nickchivers9029 it was a reply to the previous comment. Theres no such thing as fans , not anymore you’re customers. If you don’t buy your tickets someone else will. People live for football if you take football away from them what do they have? It’s the clubs that give fans a life not the other way around.

@paulsilver7671 27 күн бұрын

None of yous would have a job without the fans of course they have a right to

@kezvez 28 күн бұрын

Simon Jordan is such an old fart. Failed owner who seems to apparently have all the answers to solve football

@tzaakofficial 28 күн бұрын

Simon Jordan is everything that’s wrong with modern football

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

The guy’s often a shock jock who brings down the level of discourse but he’s not the biggest thing wrong with modern football. Over entitled fans are a big problem too.

@ScratchNSniff6696 28 күн бұрын

Lost a bit of credit from me Simon mate

@Trecesolotienesdos 28 күн бұрын

Fans are a stakeholder of football. I don't agree Simon. Fans drive football.

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

Fans are consumers. When I buy an iPhone I have certain basic consumer rights but it doesn’t grant me the ability to involve myself in decisions made at Apple, nor should it.

@user-cs1dt2xw4c 25 күн бұрын

Shut up Jordan you have no right to dis the fans , they have paid your bread and butter and the rest of the corrupt league, without fans the game is dead.

@DovaGeris 28 күн бұрын

Wolves' stance towards VAR is understandable. They suffered the most because of VAR and bad officiating. Almost all the teams were victims of VAR and incompetent officiating. There is one team, however, who always benefitted from VAR mistakes and bad officiating. Never were they the victims of VAR and horrendous officiating...😅that's strange

@Brainly-Brian 28 күн бұрын

Simon Jordan is getting worse by the day. Soon start avoiding videos with him.🤷‍♂

@JR-cm9sh 27 күн бұрын

Simon just loves to have edgy takes, very boring and predictable. obviously fans should have a say. VAR makes the game slow and boring just as much as simons takes

@AdamH93 28 күн бұрын

Behave Simon.

@coyninho 28 күн бұрын

Maybe fans need to put together their own football league without the greed and alienation of the reason football exists?

@user-kg4cr1jq8o 28 күн бұрын

I think you find we should as if it's weren't for the fans clubs won't exist!-!!!

@MarkSmith-tm1eh 28 күн бұрын

Simon Jordan are you on something saying football fans do not the right to have there say on Var!!!. Simon give your head a shake and talk some bloody sense for god sake who do you think you are.

@jonathanmarkham1998 27 күн бұрын

How would you have a system where fans are involved in the decision making process? How would you define who is and isn’t a fan and how would they be represented?