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@TheMasterCylinder 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen Simon more unimpressed with a guest. And Simon is absolutely spot-on that without a controlling stake, those fan shares are just trinkets. That Chris guy needs to bone up on his facts and present a better argument because he sounded like a fan off the street rather than a communications director.
@jonlcfc1 2 жыл бұрын
True, though Simon made himself look a bit of a plank there also. The guy said it was the start of the process and Simon repeated himself time and time again when questioning him. It's the start, Simon. Jordan is quality but needs to be called out at times.
@TheMasterCylinder 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonlcfc1 But that guy is the comms director for the trust. Every question Simon asked should have had an immediate, researched answer. They weren't hard questions. Just saying it's the beginning of a process instead of laying out some sort of roadmap is amateurish. Not only that, he didn't sound convincing at all. What Chris needs to do is get answers for questions like that so he doesn't look foolish again.
@nwabobo 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Chris, if u have 5 or 10% of the club u still might not be able to control the direction of travel of the club but u stand a better chance of having ur voice or input going into the decision making process of the club. That's a point to build from. Simon is just being obnoxious to understand Chris point of view..
@mika-eelkhan15 2 жыл бұрын
As A United fan im embarrassed that even our supporters lack competence. No wonder the Glazers have it easy
@mliam0709 2 жыл бұрын
FC United is the answer.
@Jake-gh7ux 2 жыл бұрын
As a United fan I couldn’t help agree with Jordan. Essentially it’s like going into a court room without any evidence and claiming that they owe United a set share when it isn’t specific
@jordye388 2 жыл бұрын
Simon basically said “You’ll do nuttin”
@socorio4100 2 жыл бұрын
This is how all United fans sound. Blowing smoke out of their ass
@susbedo9258 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I'm pretty most of British are like that. That's why they keep hyping up their own players and managers who wins nothing
@chadachee3446 2 жыл бұрын
@@susbedo9258 as american thank god i am not british
@susbedo9258 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadachee3446 the amount of disrespect Brits show Americans like Jesse Marsch is unbelievable.
@benrutter1746 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus 🤦♂️ making this about nationality now FFS jokers
@norwoodboy6048 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadachee3446 It would maybe a good idea to learn how to write English before commenting.
@ParrotsTT 2 жыл бұрын
Having a 10% share means they'll listen to you, 10% also means that the other 90% can do what they like despite what you want
@ljunyreona9882 2 жыл бұрын
Na......What they are talking about is 3% for 10ml.10% would cost more than 100ml.
@walshy3430 2 жыл бұрын
@@ljunyreona9882 nope 10 % would cost them 500 million as current value is 5 billion if Chelsea are worth 3 billion only 30% of the club is on the stock market in New York
@senzokai3156 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the type. Preferred shares, golden share, all of it is pretty muddled up in the eyes of United supporters with the entitlement they have.
@walshy3430 2 жыл бұрын
@@senzokai3156 it’s not entitlement that we have in any way some might yes but you have that in every club
@andymore62 2 жыл бұрын
Simon cracks me up. He completely exposed this guy.
@dougchristie2041 2 жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan. What a guy. We never saw anything like this back in the old days. None us every knew what was going on.
@sprinter1832 2 жыл бұрын
He's a prick,and a know-all to boot!
@grahamhill2502 2 жыл бұрын
Huge Simon Jordan fan. He went all in there as an ex owner. Even the most intelligent are swayed by emotional earthquakes. Credit to the fan here for keeping calm, Simon is no easy opponent to talk to, and he keep to his principles of what he wanted to say, rather than becoming emotionally engaged with Simon. I'm always interested in Simons pool of Knowledge, but equally as a United fan myself, its good to hear what the supporters "on the ground " are doing to express their concerns to the Glazers. I think there was some sort of misconception between Simon and the Fan, as from Simons perspective it's clearly, I owned a football club, I wouldn't be admonished by supporters groups! This fans group director is going on the premise of, you borrowed money (Glazer family) and destroyed our club (or the potential of its reach by poor ownership), you didn't invest your own as a fan like Simon Jordan. Really good exchange.
@cinemax9100 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a comment under this video from someone who thinks for them selves. Kudos bro!
@sprinter1832 2 жыл бұрын
He went there as a FAILED owner, a failure who seems to know everything!!! He thinks!
@petershortland478 7 ай бұрын
regardless if he failed if u know how the system works then you merit an opinion
@mariusschulz2926 2 жыл бұрын
That was hard, listening to a Guy who pretends to be "someone of importance"
@theboomletgroup8436 2 жыл бұрын
Cringe-worthy
@mariusschulz2926 2 жыл бұрын
@@theboomletgroup8436 yeah totally😅 fat Boy in a suit acting Like a Manchester fan
@poochysuncle6878 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariusschulz2926 what a great idea to attack his body weight!
@mariusschulz2926 2 жыл бұрын
@@poochysuncle6878 thanks Mate 😅
@poochysuncle6878 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariusschulz2926 Weight can be lost but you will always be a computer engineer with the name Marius Schulz and a bizarrely shaped face
@larrygerry985 2 жыл бұрын
These fan representatives are in some sort of un-reality. When Man-u win again no one cares about their process. The reality is that they support a business not a club. Their romantic views of club fandom is dead.
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
So fans should just do nothing? I swear people act like they are objective but they just love seeing United getting destroyed by the Glazers. These guys are trying to do something, they are not apathetic to the football club and believe more can be done to save it from free falling.
@Mr.93.20 2 жыл бұрын
Their stuck in the Fergie era. Times have changed massively and they still hold that expectation that Fergie set. Winning cycles doesn’t last forever, all clubs have to rebuild at some point.
@redboyjan 2 жыл бұрын
The reality is "fans" buy shirts regardless of trophies. Brilliant model
@MrNelson94 2 жыл бұрын
That is a lie, there were protest in 2005 and in 2009-10(third league title in a row), when the club were winning trophies, stop spreading misinformation
@DR3ADER1 2 жыл бұрын
Said romantics died back in the 1980s. When football began to gain a ton of television money.
@Dylan-ek5fy 2 жыл бұрын
We are well and truly fucked if that’s the communications director 😂
@zeeone4492 2 жыл бұрын
We will all be drinking Russian vodka in the last chance saloon
@403elle 2 жыл бұрын
Think that guy had about as much understanding of man united as the glaziers .
@keyoouen1027 2 жыл бұрын
what area of manchester is that fella from?
@prasannabalaji1886 2 жыл бұрын
There is 50+1 rule in Germany and yet German clubs at times don't let fan choices to takeplace
@jtaco4101 2 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't. Fans don't know what's best for clubs
@markpugh6808 2 жыл бұрын
They don't allow billionaires to buy their clubs either
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@jtaco4101 Yeah, the Glazers sure know what's best for United. Total destruction. 🤣
@luca99191 2 жыл бұрын
They should use the Spanish model
@michaelmccomb2594 2 жыл бұрын
@@luca99191 what’s the Spanish model were all the clubs sold privately in the 80/90s apart from Madrid, Barca and Bilbao?
@doreeneb 2 жыл бұрын
'Last chance saloon' 😂😂🤣😂 I haven't laughed so much. The delusional levels are insane 🤣 exactly what does he think he's going to achieve against the Glazers who OWN the football club? Wave his fists outside Old Trafford?? 🤣😂🤣
@sonnyreddevil69 2 жыл бұрын
Your nobody to laugh
@ahmedkhan7010 2 жыл бұрын
Glazers actually do need the fans happy for their ownership model to work. So having supporters trust that can galvanize the fans against the owners is not an ideal situation. Manchester United are not Man City or Newcastle that have rich owners who can afford to ignore their fans.
@kennethallen5351 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedkhan7010 Bro Manchester United are one of if not the biggest club in the world they are definitely filthy rich
@antonyallen8025 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedkhan7010 actually Mike Ashley ignored the Newcastle fans for over 10 years, the glazers can quite easily afford to ignore manu utd fans
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethallen5351 That's just not true anymore and I'm a United fan. I feel like the comments under this video are from oppo fans who love to see what the Glazers are doing to the club.
@introspectivekumarpoemsand2032 2 жыл бұрын
These fans have no idea what they want or are talking about. There is delusion to another level. The guy wants some stake in the ownership, but doesn't have a clue what it really takes.
@ljunyreona9882 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah....Let's assume they have the money for 10% and they still couldn't veto the Glazzers.
@ljs185 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is tho, they dont have the capital for that so its just all smoke
@DR3ADER1 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, it REQUIRES every single fan at Man U to be rich by default AND it requires them to be on the Glazer family's good graces and book of favourites. Which, might I add, they haven't done since 2005.
@timeforarest 2 жыл бұрын
"Last chance saloon." That was funny!
@young2010ize 2 жыл бұрын
The more i watch simon the more i admire him, no bullshit straight to the point clear straight facts everytime. If he has kids they have one hell of a rolemodel to follow.
@ironlionzion5745 2 жыл бұрын
However, he’s wrong in this instance.
@young2010ize 2 жыл бұрын
@@ironlionzion5745 Care to explain why you think hes wrong?
@TheMartinTD 2 жыл бұрын
@@ironlionzion5745 nice hollow statement there, care to explain ? Instead of a throw away line.
@alexfields8785 2 жыл бұрын
I can explain. Its because this model already exists and has proven successful in other leagues. And Simon undoubtedly knows it which makes him not only wrong but dishonest. The more I read these comments the more I get the impression that the people who hang on to Simons every word have some serious daddy issues. Too focused on how he says things rather what he's saying or why he's saying it to realise he's just a wealthy biased tory with an agenda. And that agenda does not favour the fans
@moe381 2 жыл бұрын
Sure you can buy the shares but who is going to cough up the money for the players.
@stephenmason9527 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, these fan group types never want to be around when they hear the words 'club debt'
@pingpongposseclub 2 жыл бұрын
First rule of fight club. You do not go toe to toe with Simon Jordan. Second rule of fight club. You do NOT go toe to toe with Simon Jordan
@nigelnyoni8265 Жыл бұрын
7:06 "last chance saloon" 🤣😂😭🤣😂
@AP-rs3js 2 жыл бұрын
"Last chance saloon" how terrifying! 😆
@mmmcfc9332 2 жыл бұрын
Last chance saloon mr Glazer or else I’ll get my green and yellow scarf out and break into old Trafford again so I can wave it.
@LeedsUnitedJohn 2 жыл бұрын
Chris has upset the apple cart by complaining to journalists whilst negotiations are still active.
@niallmurphy9376 2 жыл бұрын
That was ridiculous, that dude spoke a lot and said nothing. Wouldn't answer questions just went off on a tangent
@Tom-bk1yv 2 жыл бұрын
Also, there is not a shortage of people wanting to buy utd. Theres just shortage of people willing to sell it.
@nickmildon6348 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think this was a grilling. This was more of a slaughter. Good job Simon
@leroythompson8942 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@SamaBroskie 2 жыл бұрын
lol my god🤣🤣🤣🤣 is this the best we could do as Man Utd fans?
@justsomeguy101b 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this guy speaking for United and has never spent a day in Manchester?
@Jack-sk1bi 2 жыл бұрын
Man Utd isn’t a football club, it’s a franchise business. A club for people who think football is just a TV show.
@biggy3rd 2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot to admire about the English football fan, this isn't one of them. Does anyone really think they will allow the fans buy enough shares for them to have a voice on the board? Even if that was possible, are the fans united enough to go in the same direction. I mean there are fans who think McTominay is a good player. They are just going to end up giving the Glazer's vacation money to go watch F1.
@TheMartinTD 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy delusion
@alandunne2728 Жыл бұрын
Oswald Cobblepot should be more worried about Batman than the Glazers
@darrendalby3052 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like watching stevie wonder sat at his piano 🙈😂
@pavolkrajcovic745 2 жыл бұрын
I’m laughing my ass off 🤣
@pavolkrajcovic745 2 жыл бұрын
I’m laughing my ass off 🤣
@aol6983 2 жыл бұрын
Simon is on a different level, makes this TALKSPORT programme unmissable - Whitey, Sinclair + Murphy are simply not on his level and practically a waste of time. Simon knows the business inside out, superb.
@lfcspectre4335 2 жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan put this fella rings with facts, what are you gonna do with Glazers to sell shares. Plus what's your main goal & plan without money.
@jasonjones5357 2 жыл бұрын
Note to everyone do not take Simon on when it comes to business, way too smart for armchair football fans and that's why you don't allow fans on the board as they're not smart business people. Yes owners get things wrong, but business is business
@shrayfitstayfit1202 2 жыл бұрын
Fans can only be brought into meetings for ideas and opinions. The reason someone owns an entity is because they possess the purchase power. Fans don't have that. Simon is bang on.
@um8778 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, "last chance saloon" - you have zero power or influence mr triple chin 🤣
@fatmenroundme8958 2 жыл бұрын
How does this guy represent united fans 😂😂😂
@rohithraman6488 2 жыл бұрын
They're United fans of course this guy represents them 😂
@AshleySmith-zz6nx 2 жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan for prime minister, keep it up Simon
@jamesjarrett52 2 жыл бұрын
Buy the club if you want to control it mate. Simple as that.
@1Gwakie 2 жыл бұрын
It says a lot when Trevor knows more than MUST.
@davidknight2104 2 жыл бұрын
Simon is practicing for Dragons Den 😂
@andymanser1 2 жыл бұрын
Simon spot on.
@cestrian5294 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this guy actually believed the greedy Glazers. No way will they let any money be spirited away or any semblance of control to anybody else. The fans will never have any influence on the Glazers unless they stop buying merchandise.
@mmmcfc9332 2 жыл бұрын
The Utd merch bought by regular game going utd fans/season ticket holders in the UK will be pennies compared to their worldwide sales. A soccer fan in the US who likes Utd will still buy a shirt. Fans don’t mean much nowadays, as hard as that is to accept.
@JackJackJack123 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not entitled to someone else’s property.
@zeeone4492 2 жыл бұрын
Until the former British Empire steals it from you like Chelsea
@_KeyserSoze 2 жыл бұрын
Tell the government and Chelsea fans that
@stephenmason9527 2 жыл бұрын
We already know that some Man U fans don't agree, trespassing and rioting to get a game called off.
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenmason9527 I'm certain you just want to see Manchester United destroyed. Every comment you make is mocking the fans and acting as if the Glazers can wipe their asses with the club badge.
@stephenmason9527 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 it's not my fault that yes, Man United fans committed criminal actions.
@martinharper2215 2 жыл бұрын
Last chance saloon. I bet the Glazers are quaking in their boots now 🤣🤣
@seanmackie2122 2 жыл бұрын
Simon ... true story hardline killer Jordan hahahaaaa love the guy
@JackJackJack123 2 жыл бұрын
So you have thousands of fans buying stock on behalf of this trust. Then what? Who runs the fan group? Chris? There’s no organization with that many people that all agree on everything. This thing is a house of cards that will fold at the first sign of any discontent within the group.
@hobiestewart2459 2 жыл бұрын
It'll never get that far. The Glazers are just telling the fat girl she's pretty with no intention of dating her. This fan group is delusional. But on the bright side, this is the funniest thing I've seen all week.
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
So what should the fans try to do, Bob? Should they be content with the current situation and the way the owners use the football club as a cash cow?
@TheMartinTD 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 they should stop buying tickets, merch and going to games, stop buying sky sports too, it’s not hard .
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMartinTD That's up to the local fans. When they cancelled the Liverpool game, everyone condemned them and said they are hooligans.
@TheMartinTD 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 because they acted like morons and rightly so go shat on for it. Just stop going to the matches it’s literally that simple.
@benbelap 2 жыл бұрын
MUST have always and will forever be a joke.
@argee1977 2 жыл бұрын
Seen this a few times over the years, basically it's someone, or a group of people who want to have a seat at the table and be seen as having influence by the fans who pay the money to get them that seat at the table, it never ends well as they always just end up like the rest round that table.
@neilfitzsimmons1800 2 жыл бұрын
Yes give the fans some ownership and increase match tickets by 400%. I'm sure the fans will be queuing up.
@englanduk6131 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@ELNinoLuke 2 жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of the time when that Reddit moderator from r/antiwork had an interview with Fox. These things never go well
@georgiyankov3611 2 жыл бұрын
This person came on the show unprepared. Simon stopped listening to him halfway through and even Trevor got agitated. Jesus that was horrid.
@ants84 2 жыл бұрын
This is why football fans should not have a say in how a football club is run, they’re not qualified enough and they would allow their decision making to be influenced too much by their emotional connection to the club. It doesn’t work. You want an equal share in your football club? Purchase one for fair market value. Stop feeling entitled.
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
The Glazers used a fraudulent scheme to buy United initially, why are you not speaking about that?
@ants84 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 I don’t give a stuff about Man Utd, and the last time I checked their owners hadn’t been charged with fraud. You’ve again proved my point that fans shouldn’t have a say, making unsubstantiated, liable claims against an ownership you don’t like for reasons valid or otherwise is quite frankly ridiculous.
@danielharmer6072 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the guy representing us as Manchester United fans, I dread to think how the Glazers treat this guy. He went into this interview with a rock on and Simon smacked him down to a semi in 30. seconds. What will MUST do if they don’t deliver on their promise? Simon asked suggesting more protests and boycotts. This guy said Nothing as they wouldn’t want to lose their privileges
@wardawgs.2779 2 жыл бұрын
"A rock on" 🤣🤣🤣
@jmascisss 2 жыл бұрын
Chris nailed it. The Glasers are living in dreamland if they think they can survive without the support of the Manchester United Supporters Trust.
@jonathanlewis1981 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that's not the case, United will be just fine without them in terms of monetary value which is what the owners care about
@stephenmason9527 2 жыл бұрын
Except that the fans aren't united.
@jamesgibson8088 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@TheMartinTD 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
@petershortland478 7 ай бұрын
Supporters Trust is just a club. Nothing else same goes with every other. Supporters trust only strengthens their influence, but they don't have a say in anything
@Marcelo83uk 2 жыл бұрын
Stop buying tickets and merchandise... hit them in the pockets. Otherwise you can protest and go online complaining as much as you want but the contradiction with actions is astonishing
@MaterLacrymarum 2 жыл бұрын
They want to incwease influence? At least he wecognizes it'll be tough. But at least there are still gween shoots from their "Communications Director".
@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын
Simon is right, there's nothing they can do without a big stake in the club, they can moan as much as they want, it won't change anything
@scottcraig6381 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Utd fan and this is excruciatingly embarrassing……!!
@petershortland478 7 ай бұрын
Biggest issue is that Glazers will want fans who just want to be board because its a benefit to them. Tbf there isnt a businessman who will put the club ahead of themselves. Its all well and good being a shareholder but you have to know how the business in football works
@hashtwo8885 2 жыл бұрын
Simon knows his onions and guest is yet another delusional fan, who thinks they have the right to run their own club. What a clown.
@jbo4547 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, its embarrassing
@witzend5996 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for “It’s good night from me and it’s good night from him”!
@beenjammin2656 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine the dallas cowboys cheerleaders demanding 26% or else👊
@justemeka 2 жыл бұрын
I think what Man Utd fans want is to return back to winning ways and be great again. Not the agenda of buying shares. Other than buying shares, there are other ways to be heard.
@luca99191 2 жыл бұрын
The super league is not dead long live the esl
@justiceforjohnny2293 2 жыл бұрын
Its a pleasure listening to Simon. From a common sense and business perspective hes just top notch!
@FelixGallardo1946 2 жыл бұрын
This guy Chris is absolutely clueless, just waffling absolute rubbish. Imagine coming on thinking he knows it all when Simon is sat there as a former owner and was literally taking the piss out of him
@Chief24.7 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a united fan, this guy they’ve brought on is a bit irritating
@Coincadinc 2 жыл бұрын
Not all United fans are deluded.
@johnfulco8313 2 жыл бұрын
The sad truth is there's nothing we can do to get rid of the greedy glazers. They're a disgrace to not only united but the premier league. They're running the biggest club into the ground. OT is falling apart, no success on the pitch, lies to shareholders / fans, protests, etc... It is a disgrace what they're doing and there's nothing anyone can do
@cursedchild3639 2 жыл бұрын
Spoken the truth brother. We are powerless to be honest. The only thing anyone can do really is keep protesting non stop. Also the UK government needs to do something.
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing we can do because the local fans are scared or too proud to do anything about it.
@IrishFrank22 2 жыл бұрын
@@cursedchild3639 wtf would the government get involved in the way a private business runs itself legitimately.
@philiph99 2 жыл бұрын
@@cursedchild3639 are you actually thick. What does the UK government have to do with a private takeover.
@johnfulco8313 2 жыл бұрын
@@IrishFrank22 What is "legitimate" and what is good for the league / country are two different things. The glazers debt structure should've NEVER been accepted by the league FFS, and look what it's done. $1 Billion drained out of the club, hundreds of millions of interest paid to support loans , refinancing loans and paying the fees to do so through club revenues.... All the while letting Old Trafford rot, carrington needs investment, success on the pitch become secondary, operating the club at loss while still taking out massive dividends, hardly any investment to the city (take a look at what man city has done to the city over the past 10 years in comparison),etc...
@GreenandGold 2 жыл бұрын
So the future of my club is in this guys hands?
@mikeeyles9635 2 жыл бұрын
MUST have been a joke in the last year. Too soft and probs on the take. Duncan Drasdo has even protected his tweets which says a lot. Lost all momentum after the lpool game that got called off last year. Meant to be another one before the Chelsea game the last game most that will take part will renew their season tickets and be back in August. Absolutely pointless. Too many Utd supporters are too scared to give up their season tickets incase we start winning things again so it will never change. This will only end when Joel and Avram Glazer pass away and even then it’s not a given.
@kennethallen5351 2 жыл бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I’m listening to this guy from the United supporters trust and I feel like saying at least your club go and buy top name players (obviously not every single transfer is a top name player) but if you think in recent years they’ve had Ronaldo Cavani Sancho DiMaria Zlatan Falcao Pogba . I know not all these players have worked out in terms of performances but as owners you want to be seen to be attracting the big names and they still have done that and once you get these players you then leave it up to the players themselves and the coaching staff to get the results on the field . And considering they’ve had Jose Mourinho as manager during that time who like him or not is a top manager , the fans need to start blaming the players and more as they all get paid handsomely and can’t get top 4 . On paper United have a great team . Don’t get me wrong I’m not sticking up for any owners , as an Arsenal fan we’ve had to put up with our own owners not wanting to spend money on the big names for years and selling anybody that is good , but if they’re not getting the results and they’ve got all the tools to be successful then I think you have to look at some of the players and maybe shift out the bad eggs and dead wood
@doreeneb 2 жыл бұрын
This is precisely why I can never fully sympathise with United fans. They moan about their owners while conveniently ignoring that they have invested 1.3 BILLION into the team since Fergie, like it's chicken change. I know they'll cry and say that money was money generated by the club rather than money direct from Glazers pocket but this is business. Why must the Glazers take from their pocket when their business and asset is making money? United need to be glad they are at least willing to plow such huge amounts back into the team. Yet they wanna cry. The real truth is they are bitter that they are no longer at the top despite spending all that money. As an Arsenal fan, I would kill for that level of investment over the years.
@indiechana9771 2 жыл бұрын
To what end????
@valvenis5643 2 жыл бұрын
"we want our voices to be heard" "I don't have an opinion on who the manager should be" Make your mind up pal
@dani-jw9rh 2 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a united fan
@clifflambert9767 2 жыл бұрын
Simon = top LAD proper clobber. Jordanites rule.
@davidknight2104 2 жыл бұрын
It's all a bit vague Chris
@Wearethewingmakers 2 жыл бұрын
Basically you need to have more than 10 percent to have an influence over decision making.
@shocker10292 2 жыл бұрын
MUST are a complete joke, I went looking at their webiste and socials a few months ago and its embarrasing, they barely communicate as to what is happening, they say they got the Glazers to talk about releasing shares to the fans and this would happen by the beginning of the season...nothing happened and a year later they are making noise about the Glazers backtracking, they should have been on them as soon as that deadline passed. The club was in turmoil in November, everyone knew the manager had to go and I couldnt find anything from them, they are meant to be the link between the fans and owners for one of the biggest clubs in the world and seem to be a bunch of amateurs with no real plan of intent. Listening to Chris Rumfitt talk then was just like listening to another puppet under the Glazer umbrella.
@mabm4310 2 жыл бұрын
the value of the shares is irrelevant. it's the voting strength they have that matters.
@vishanthfastino2468 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a money hungry group of fans of a fanbase trying to benefit from the commercial wealth of the club. Simon knows this and it was obvious he wasn't impressed with this guy.
@vishanthfastino2468 2 жыл бұрын
And the moment you buy those shares, you are no longer a fan. A fan can have a say or share their emotions in the stands or on the social media. They can have an opinion how their club should be run, but they shouldn't be in the decision room. It's like "I bought all your songs and soundtracks on itunes, I deserve a share in your royalty"x
@alexfields8785 2 жыл бұрын
Google 50+1 rule. Basically a rule in German football that does what he's proposing. Strangely all of the bundesliga clubs make money as opposed to getting into stupid levels of debt. Also ticket prices are much better. Like a quarter of the price. But yeah, best to keep the altruistic glazers in full control rather than talk about letting the money hungry fans have some control the direction of the club. If a charismatic tory thinks its a bad idea then it must be. 🐑
@ankitlfc170 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfields8785 maybe yes. But the lad couldn’t explain or keep his point. He is no communication director 😂
@alexfields8785 2 жыл бұрын
@@ankitlfc170 Simon wants to preserve the status quo. If the guy managed to make better points Simon would have just interrupted him harder. Worked too... Pretty much all the comments are people saying how smart and amazing Simon is and how stupid the idea is. Literally arguing against their best interests like this genius (OP) who thinks that out of the fans and the glazers, it's the fans who are the money hungry ones. I swear, talksport makes people dumber
@vishanthfastino2468 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfields8785 if the fans had been smart as you they would have carried through this proposal at the inception of the club or 3 decades ago, when it was much easier to make it happen. It would have been smart and reasonable to do this then. To ask for a share at the commercial behemoth like Manchester United, and asked to be given a significant amount of shares for free doesn't sound smart from the owner's point of view. The only reason this conversation is getting any sort of traction is that Manchester United isn't performing on the pitch and the super league debacle. Look at Chelsea's CPO. It was a different and difficult time when the CPO was formed, but it has hindered the development of their stadium. The owners can't wrestle control from the fans in the Bundesliga, same goes with the fans wrestling for control in England. No one will give this up. So what will you do with it? Try to make the owner sell the club and make sure the new owner will submit to fan's demands. No one on their right mind will spend billions of dollars to buy the club and give 25% of it's shares to an emotional buch of people. Or you can kick out glazers and fans should buy the club. You'll see how quick such a regime crumbles. And if my feeble mind could come up with this, am sure someone as smart as you should know better.
@edsmith4821 2 жыл бұрын
even if the fans rustle up 100k it's like the most expensive bog paper in history Are they looking for a return or a say on the running of the club ? They will get neither
@cosmicbaggy9637 2 жыл бұрын
As if the glazers will give them anything of value. Deluded 😂
@brianasciak1668 2 жыл бұрын
The Glazers where busy in Bahrain enjoying the F1 last Sunday sure they fly to other Great Country to watch more F1 to chill.
@peopletalkuttergarbage 2 жыл бұрын
What's a "perwiod"
@kohsamuivillas7845 2 жыл бұрын
As a United fan I couldn’t help but agree with Simon Jordan...MUST does NOT represent me they just represent a small number of a WORLDWiDE fanbase that joel glazer just thinks of as a minor nuisance that needs to be talked to for 10mins a month or so this nonsense about buying 10mill of shares gives the glazers 10mil into their pockets with no consequences except to listen to what they say at share holders meeting and do what they want anyway....which they are doing now WITHOUT giving them 10mill ....MUST does not care about the fanbase outside of Manchester
@RubyMarkLindMilly 2 жыл бұрын
"Inwease"😂😂😂
@SKYWalkersSG 2 жыл бұрын
why depend on Glazers, just organise and go buy up the shares you need. seems like another "do nothing" thing like the Glazers. no wonder Man Utd is in such trouble, with fans like that.
@Bennyboy12 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the guest was Danny devito with a syrup on.
@tawAAkul 2 жыл бұрын
Simon wants to cut through the rhetoric
@ewenhutchison841 Жыл бұрын
"last chance saloon" Old Trafford will always be full,and season tickets renewed many fans on waiting lists for them. Man United are similar to Arsenal, the protesting/boycotting fans are easily replaced.
@rishiarora3589 2 жыл бұрын
As Ferdinand said to Newcastle fans…. Man Utd fans should just raise the money and buy the club. Raise 3-4bn…. Easy.
@thorntonovski 2 жыл бұрын
But surely unless the supporters trust own all of the say...10% it would just be 10% of the entire shareholding shared between tens of thousands fans, thats not 10% that's just lots of people with 0.005%s which has no influence.
@jack7195 2 жыл бұрын
Look, the sentimentality is there from Chris. However, Simons spot on, becauses he's lived it. Your in a man's world with these people, when it comes to business, the only thing that talks is money.
@ejshaw2632 2 жыл бұрын
That's a strong Manc accent
@governormadea5937 2 жыл бұрын
Just the idea that the customers(fans) get to demand equity from a company is absurd with me. I understand United fans are frustrated and Glazers have themselves to blame for it but it’s still their asset
@Clem_Fandango11 2 жыл бұрын
It's not like they have haven't splashed the cash either. Start of the season all these fans were gobbing off about their squad and the return of Ronaldo etc...now they are useless on the pitch it's the owners fault. They have promised to upgrade the stadium which they will do and have reduced the debt, season tickets are kept at a low price. What more do they want?
@governormadea5937 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clem_Fandango11 you have explayers and fans who would love to get a stake in the business. Glazers are slatted for bad management but every single season they’ve splashed cash and while some signings haven’t worked you can go back and see if anyone complained about them.
@rohithraman6488 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to say that Chris sums up the Utd fanbase 🤣
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