Simon Peers and Nicholas Godley discuss Golden Spider Silk

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Victoria and Albert Museum

Victoria and Albert Museum

12 жыл бұрын

Millions of spiders, thousands of hours and two golden garments - these are the essential components of the V&A display, 'Golden Spider Silk'. In this film, the two men behind the display, Simon Peers and Nicholas Godley, explain the how they ended up creating the largest piece of spider silk cloth in the world.

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@taleandclawrock2606
@taleandclawrock2606 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this photographed on some of the Indigenous weavers and collectors.....♡ What a breathtaking piece...stunningly beautiful. The skill of those weavers, to create this.....Im so glad these 2 gentlemen had the means and the passion to envisiage, and create such a project. I would like to know how many hours and how much it cost them to produce. Truly sublime .
@wuffothewonderdog
@wuffothewonderdog 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this in the V & A Museum in London. The question I had then remains unanswered - how much does the cape weigh?
@whytejane
@whytejane 7 жыл бұрын
As a weaver I can appreciate the time and work that went into making this beautiful garment. I'm glad they said that this was not a fashion statement. To commercialise something as rare as this would demean it.
@theworthysoul
@theworthysoul 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just curious how many of them survive in the wild later. I know spiders have slow metabolism and can go a while without eating, but orb weavers need a web to catch prey and if they’re already hungry upon being milked they’re done for.
@squidballs
@squidballs 2 жыл бұрын
Either they aren’t milked completely, or they’re fed until their webs restore.
@barbiebunnybakery1896
@barbiebunnybakery1896 3 жыл бұрын
This is gorgeous but couldn’t you find a model from Madagascar? I mean everything was produced there so I think putting it on a local model would have made it positively magical!
@operaforlife6551
@operaforlife6551 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, especially since they said it wasn't about fashion, so why use a dead-eyed fashion model xD
@MrShushine
@MrShushine 3 жыл бұрын
Also this gorgeous golden color would look so much better on a darker skin.
@eehabesha
@eehabesha 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrShushine True black and yellow👌😉
@danielrowsey7667
@danielrowsey7667 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this exact thing when I saw the video of them making these garments. All these local craftsfolk putting in their hard work then BOOM: bored looking European model.
@dawnd.4270
@dawnd.4270 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@januzzell8631
@januzzell8631 3 жыл бұрын
Completely entranced - what a gorgeous material!
@inkyguy
@inkyguy 5 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see some demonstrations of some of the qualities of the fiber. Strength and durability, cleaning quality, shrink proofnees, lightweightness, colorfastness? I imagine they are quite amazing. I’d just like to learn exactly what they are.
@shariemaelawa6266
@shariemaelawa6266 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrN-ktqCm8DdqWQ.html
@Alrion1704
@Alrion1704 3 жыл бұрын
@@shariemaelawa6266 thank you
@Schmunzel57
@Schmunzel57 2 жыл бұрын
@@shariemaelawa6266 I had hopes for steel but the tested soft binding wire made from pure iron.
@wendywinsor7256
@wendywinsor7256 3 жыл бұрын
One of the crafts people should had the honor to be the model. It would have also look have looked even more beautiful on dark skin.
@ariadne0w1
@ariadne0w1 Жыл бұрын
I thought so too, it was very disappointing to just see it on a generic white model and not one of the craftspeople (who all looked lovely) who spent 3 years creating it with many traditional methods.
@sanantonio855
@sanantonio855 5 ай бұрын
@@ariadne0w1 just say you hate white people
@ariadne0w1
@ariadne0w1 5 ай бұрын
@@sanantonio855 What are you smoking? "It's a shame that we never got to see the people who spent literal years making this work of art that has so many ties to their culture actually wearing it, and they decided to pick some rando from Fashion Week instead" does not equal to hating white people. If it was a hand-made Shetland wedding ring shawl years-long project and they picked some rando Swedish model instead of someone from that area preferably one of the makers it would also be a disappointment and feel kinda disrespectful.
@sanantonio855
@sanantonio855 5 ай бұрын
@@ariadne0w1 It doesn't have ties to their culture. The spiders just happen to be from Madagascar. No culture uses spider's silk, because it's an immense pain to harvest enough of it to do anything. The first recorded attempt of doing so was from a man in 18th century France to try and replace silkworms, and it never worked out because spiders are impossible to domesticate.
@ariadne0w1
@ariadne0w1 5 ай бұрын
@@sanantonio855 The motifs and weaving techniques are, not the silk
@tammietrl
@tammietrl 6 ай бұрын
I have no words. Just watching your video on this feels like a high honor. Thank you. ❤
@58Kym
@58Kym 5 жыл бұрын
Well, what. Happens to it now? How much does it weigh? It looks beautiful...but can it been cleaned and how?
@smoothsnailing2161
@smoothsnailing2161 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think it’ll be worn many times. Its one of a kind. So it probably will become displayed. And for cleaning? It could be that they will just dust off any dirt. Imagine having stains… that would be a disaster and possibly impossible to clean
@fizzyb0mb
@fizzyb0mb 2 жыл бұрын
@@smoothsnailing2161 Spider web is incredibly strong and durable. I'm an owner of many tarantulas; watering their enclosures doesn't harm their webbing. I'd imagine incredibly light spot-cleaning could be done, but it most likely will only be kept on display in a case so that most likely wouldn't be a necessary worry anyways.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 11 күн бұрын
Now this is art. Pure snd simple. I would love to see it worn in person. Just to see how it moves and sounds, and how the light hits it. A garment truly comes alive when worn. To preserve it would of course limit how often it could be worn and in what conditions. Luckily we do have the medium of film to capture these moments on camera for the world to see. Oh I want to go see it so badly.
@blupyxi5669
@blupyxi5669 3 жыл бұрын
I never get like this at all but why didn't one of the Madagascar NATIVES wear the garment? They put it on a European woman. That was a very disappointing finish to such an exquisite display.
@moonw5814
@moonw5814 3 жыл бұрын
I don't 'get like this' either but this seems particularly off. Who did all that marvellous work? Another commenter pointed out that the garment would actually have looked much better on a Malagasy model.
@Rain_Reign
@Rain_Reign 3 жыл бұрын
@@moonw5814 it would have been breathtaking 💛
@eehabesha
@eehabesha 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@aeray3581
@aeray3581 26 күн бұрын
I'm so glad they did gentle catch, milk, and release.💛🕸️🕷️
@aeray3581
@aeray3581 26 күн бұрын
One of the artisans who MADE this should have modeled it! 😢 I sure hope the artisans who made this were paid handsomely.
@li_celly
@li_celly 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you had a Malagasy native to model for the beautiful cape. To see it modeled on a woman not even related to the weavers' cultural geography is a major disservice in my eye.
@Rain_Reign
@Rain_Reign 3 жыл бұрын
Same. It completely outshone the model and had no connection to its origins on her or in that space. So disappointing.
@eehabesha
@eehabesha 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@leonal522
@leonal522 2 жыл бұрын
White talking head but dark weaving hands: tells a lot about the world we live in.
@SauronsAccntnt
@SauronsAccntnt 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonal522 A long-held and deeply disturbing tradition for sure. Where's the credit to the incredible artisans and spider handlers?
@philosphorus
@philosphorus Жыл бұрын
disgusting!!
@mycombs
@mycombs 12 жыл бұрын
Where will this garment be after the exhibit? Will it always be on view somewhere?
@MisterBlue0180
@MisterBlue0180 11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, brought tears to my eyes.
@fredkelly6953
@fredkelly6953 4 жыл бұрын
Love a costume made out of this stuff to wear around the neighbourhood.
@DarkSparkCannabis
@DarkSparkCannabis 8 жыл бұрын
wait, how the hell do you catch 100,000,000 spiders?
@inkyguy
@inkyguy 5 жыл бұрын
Very slowly and carefully. Same goes for milking them.
@charleswalker1185
@charleswalker1185 3 жыл бұрын
Tiny cowboys with lassos
@SafaRaghib
@SafaRaghib 3 жыл бұрын
They let the spiders go after milking them, so they probably end up catching the same guys quite often
@JakeWitmer
@JakeWitmer 3 жыл бұрын
The can be stunned/made sluggish for milking with CO2. I believe this technique was actually used.
@dippingbird
@dippingbird 2 жыл бұрын
By being a rich irresponsible idiot.
@EpzilonZ
@EpzilonZ 4 жыл бұрын
It's like wearable gold
@bigopalcup
@bigopalcup Жыл бұрын
Like fabric gold you mean? people been wearing gold for fuckin centuries.
@thanhtinle2449
@thanhtinle2449 12 жыл бұрын
Beautiful yellow silk shirt upheld !
@cledioinberlin1964
@cledioinberlin1964 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING BEAUTIFUL! I LOVE IT!
@Fishhunter2014
@Fishhunter2014 10 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a bed spread made out of this stuff. (a man can dream)
@imjody
@imjody 5 жыл бұрын
Would probably only cost $500,000,000. 🤷‍♂️
@maggiee639
@maggiee639 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it would feel great
@charleswalker1185
@charleswalker1185 3 жыл бұрын
Why not a circus tent?
@maggiee639
@maggiee639 3 жыл бұрын
@@charleswalker1185 I wonder if that is even physically possible
@VertigaDesignMEDIA
@VertigaDesignMEDIA 11 жыл бұрын
4:05 Simon looks at Nick thinking "Fuck is he talking about. He doesnt even know."
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 3 жыл бұрын
Those spiders better received free meals after
@theworthysoul
@theworthysoul 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if they’d accept food unless in a web.
@Skyspiders
@Skyspiders 3 жыл бұрын
Why the hell is it that just because these two determined rich guys living in Madagascar orchestrated this whole thing - do we simply give ALL the credit for this robes' existence to the two of them alone? They had a TON of people in Madagascar out there collecting spiders and taking silk from spiders and setting up the looms and doing the weaving and embroidering in "the spidery" as it was called and yet all anybody says is that these two rich men "made" this robe. NO, THEY DID NOT!!! In fact, I would like to know what did they even actually physically DO at all themselves to make this robe happen? WHAT exactly did they ACTUALLY do? Did THEY collect spiders? Did THEY do the weaving? Or did they just design the robe and then pay for it all? Because if they didn't DO ANY ACTUAL WEAVING or leg work for this robe then the only credit they ought to have is credit for paying for designing and orchestrating its existence. I'm so damned sick and tired of every single time a reference to this robe is ever made ONLY ever seeing the names of these two men when we know for a fact that they were NOT the ones who were primarily involved in collecting the materials for or doing any of the embroidery or weaving which ACTUALLY created the garment! When an actual orchestra plays a sonata they don't ONLY CREDIT THE CONDUCTOR any time a recording of the song is played! I want to see ALL the names of the Madigascans who ACTUALLY did the work to create this piece attached to the piece itself. These rich guys can take a hike I don't care that they have enough money to make a name for themselves on the backs of the Madigascans they hired to actually do the work. If they really cared about supporting the Madigascans they took advantage of they would have used the infamy from creating this robe to create an industry so that the people who live there that they are clearly exploiting could use the skills they learned while working on this robe to make money for themselves and provide a rare and unique substance for other artists to utilize and buy. How much per single small spool do you think such a rare 'fiber ' could generate? I am certain that it would generate an incredible amount of money for the people who now know how to collect and process it because of the time they spent working on this robe- but do you think these guys care about the people they employed just for a short amount of time? No, the only person ever mentioned is the two of them and they never created any kind of platform for the Madagascans they used and exploited to create this 'wonder of the world' they've made themselves famous for. And the only names ever mentioned are the names of these two men. It's just exploitation, and that is just some privileged eletist BS. Adding insult to injury - once they had finished exploiting all these Madagascan nationals, many of them beautiful young women in their own right, who did they have model them damned thing!!!? That's right some white women - some fair-skinned fair-haired twiggy little stick figure who never had to work a hard day's labor or go hunting for f*cking SPIDERS in the FORREST to make some rich man's fantasy come true IN HER LIFE! Just a white anorexic waif barely a hair's breadth out of her own childhood to stand there and look pouty to a background of white colonial french "baroque" Esque architecture. Talk about a white privileged affluent male fantasy created on the backs of Africans none of whom are ever mentioned in the labor that created this famous one of a kind textile! It's mind-blowing. Imagine if these scumbags had created a contact for the "spidery" and all the Madagascans they exploited to make themselves famous, imagine if they had used the notoriety to create a thriving industry of raising these spiders and selling single spools of their threads at incredibly high prices which would have created a unique and high art value fiber for fine art pieces all over the world which would have supported these people who did all the work of going out and collecting millions of spiders over eight years for these two creeps and their fantasy project!? Imagine if it had created a situation that boosted the economy of Madagascar and helped to support people who then were able to help conservation efforts not only for the spiders there but all manner of animal in this world unique to Madagascar! Imagine if instead of some white child-woman waif as their model they had chosen an actual Madagascan woman from among the people who actually made the damn robe!!! Imagine if they had chosen an actual Madagascan background for the photoshoot! Imagine if they'd taken pictures of this robe in the actual forest where the spiders lived next to one of the spiders with a woman who actually went out every day collecting spiders for the robe!!!! But did these creeps do ANY of that? No. Because just like typical rich men who don't care at all about the people they exploit to get what they want, its just - all about them. Here are some names for you that these little blips never mention: Norosoa Ravelomahay Nathalie Robert, Martin Rakotoarimanana, Antoine Rakotoarinala. And those are the only other names I can find of the ACTUAL WORKERS who made this robe happen. But do we ever hear their names? Ever see their faces? No. Every exhibition every video clip only mentions the men with the money who employed them.
@PirateKing1256
@PirateKing1256 2 жыл бұрын
This is colonialism. Rich white men just use money to get what they want and claim credit over it. Absolutely disgusting.
@alqnXlV
@alqnXlV 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree.
@SauronsAccntnt
@SauronsAccntnt 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing these feelings. It is 100% worth the time to read through what you wrote. If they meant it when they said it was a "labor of love" then they should be showing love to those textile experts, the spider handlers, etc.
@tashibalampkin8555
@tashibalampkin8555 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I want to hear the people who did the heavy lifting. Not these two dudes.
@pamelah1220
@pamelah1220 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, when I saw all those Black women working, just so some white chick could wear it...
@Schmunzel57
@Schmunzel57 4 жыл бұрын
All the: “Ah, it is incredible light, it almost fly away…“ What is the weight of that cape?
@Schmunzel57
@Schmunzel57 2 жыл бұрын
@@Itstheclaw Danke!
@triciamcmillan9846
@triciamcmillan9846 3 жыл бұрын
So they kidnap spiders, force them to give up all their food catching web silk, then “release them back into nature” to starve, exhausted.
@Siye8899
@Siye8899 6 ай бұрын
Seguramente has matado a chanclazos a más de una araña, así que no te vengas a hacer el defensor 🩴
@mihirdey5168
@mihirdey5168 3 жыл бұрын
Is it still done in madagascar?
@moonw5814
@moonw5814 3 жыл бұрын
Odd that it was shown by a white model who had nothing to do with its production. Why not have it shown by the people who put in all those years of painstaking work to make this thing of beauty?
@TacticalCaveman997
@TacticalCaveman997 2 жыл бұрын
Im obsessed with the study spider silk
@elmerfudd5650
@elmerfudd5650 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible!
@tomato6460
@tomato6460 2 жыл бұрын
Who is the model and does she describe what it was like to wear the cape anywhere?
@Shadow_of_Christ
@Shadow_of_Christ 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if there’s a way to mass produce this because this as a material could be used in so many things
@TheMaxwellee
@TheMaxwellee Жыл бұрын
I'd wear it. Looks glorious.
@pipmitchell7059
@pipmitchell7059 3 жыл бұрын
I was interested and listened for over two minutes before giving up the struggle to hear the words over the twanging music. Disappointing.
@sabrinaevans8746
@sabrinaevans8746 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I want my wedding dress to be made of
@80sthrashmetal
@80sthrashmetal 5 жыл бұрын
How much do you think it's worth?
@pheart2381
@pheart2381 3 жыл бұрын
If it doesnt harm the spiders,this is utterly mind-blowing.
@sa.8208
@sa.8208 3 жыл бұрын
i cant find a video of the actual extraction process.. think that tells you what you need to know
@EggmondChad
@EggmondChad 3 жыл бұрын
Both of you can rest assured knowing that the spiders all 1.2 million of them are captured by hand from the wild, kept ALIVE, fed regularly, and are milked for their silk which takes about 25 minutes and is natural and painless, they are then delivered safely back to the wild.
@pedromendoza73
@pedromendoza73 Жыл бұрын
Just amazing
@dippingbird
@dippingbird 2 жыл бұрын
Are you not potentially starting an 'ivory trade' for these spiders and their products? What have you done to prevent that, in Madagascar of all places! I'm surprised at David Attenborough for supporting you. You seem to have more money than sense.
@bodhiganguly
@bodhiganguly 6 жыл бұрын
Would this garment be costlier than gold?
@safir2241
@safir2241 5 жыл бұрын
No fucking shit
@dannyhussain5489
@dannyhussain5489 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Many many many times ovee
@Luckingsworth
@Luckingsworth 4 жыл бұрын
Consider only the spider catchers. 60 minimum per day. Assuming a 40 hour work week at minimum US wage (obviously they would get paid less but let's consider it from a potential first world market standpoint) that gives you 40 x 60 x $7.25 and then 52 weeks for 3 years. In terms of pure labor cost, only for the spider catchers not considering the weavers nor equipment and facilities and whatnot. This garment to pay minimum wage US workers to make would cost $2.5Billion. Yes with a B.
@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person
@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to use a T-shirt made of spider web.Maybe after some decades I'll have one
@FXHUND-pk3gk
@FXHUND-pk3gk 3 жыл бұрын
Can it stop a 7.62x51?
@thatdiyguyraymondmonk1225
@thatdiyguyraymondmonk1225 3 жыл бұрын
The next question for me is how can we replicate this and leave natures poor creature alone to live their lives?id love to work with something this glorious, but without disturbing the spiders life.
@proper2753
@proper2753 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately extremely difficult :/ they tried to use other methods but nothing can come close really. Stronger than steel and carbon fiber, spider webs are truely amazing
@eddyfreddy4277
@eddyfreddy4277 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aM6WbNx_ktWmhmg.html
@marie-annebirken3838
@marie-annebirken3838 4 жыл бұрын
I understand there is a book about this, is it still for sale and where can I get it?
@-deko-
@-deko- 2 жыл бұрын
Why isn't there only a video that actually makes threads from spiders? Isn't it just a reproduction drawing and then replacing it with a normal golden thread? suspicious
@yuegao6496
@yuegao6496 3 жыл бұрын
how many spiders died because of this manifestation of human ego?
@Siye8899
@Siye8899 6 ай бұрын
Muchísimo menos que las que mueren a base de insecticidas o aplastadas por los humanos
@charleswalker1185
@charleswalker1185 3 жыл бұрын
What happens to the spiders after milking the golden silk...do they get to go thread for themselves, is there silk left?
@vincem2759
@vincem2759 Жыл бұрын
The spiders were returned to the wild. Spiders actually produce 5 types of silk from different glands.
@5809AUJG
@5809AUJG 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Exquisite. Startling. Superlative!
@midnightfun1277
@midnightfun1277 4 жыл бұрын
This is stronger than kevlar and steel right? So could it actually stop a bullet?
@kenkwekunimo5129
@kenkwekunimo5129 Жыл бұрын
The white model is the anticlimax to this magical story. The story on Wired also attributed this discovery to French missionary Jacob Paul Comboué, but it is most likely that indigenous people already knew and practiced this form of weaving that Jacob had observed. This is a great starting point for research into the indigenous weaving practices of the Malay people.
@sparrowspotty
@sparrowspotty 10 ай бұрын
It also looked very bad on her, yellow looks terrible on pale, pink or reddish skin.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 11 күн бұрын
There is no record of any golden spider silk fabric made besides the one produced by Jacob Paul Comboué about 100 years ago. The indigenous peoples traditionally harvested silk from the landibe silkworms not from spiders. Why? Because spiders have a tendency to eat each other in close captivity. It is also hard to milk a spider vs picking up a discarded cocoon or cooking/steaming an unhatched cocoon to kill the larva before then using the unhurt cocoon silk. Until the French missionary invented a spider silk milking device it really was so impractical that nobody would have prioritized spider silk over the silkworm silk. Even after it was invented it took 100 years for someone to actually make something like this. That’s the point of Jacob Paul Comboué. That’s why he is important to this story.
@Faithinfate1515
@Faithinfate1515 Ай бұрын
Can you wash it?
@fuzzywzhe
@fuzzywzhe 11 жыл бұрын
Who paid for this? I'd be curious who funded this.
@Moona1966
@Moona1966 5 жыл бұрын
Most likely the museum paid for it.
@dukalep
@dukalep Жыл бұрын
I am more amazed by the girl than the cape.
@danielrowsey7667
@danielrowsey7667 2 жыл бұрын
1.2 million spiders? I wonder how many of them were re-captures
@thanhtinle2449
@thanhtinle2449 12 жыл бұрын
Trác Tuyệt đến ngỡ ngàng ! Đời sao "ngộ" thế mà mình thì "già chiều"...
@zedium3280
@zedium3280 3 жыл бұрын
That's it I'll go to mars to live there
@baonkang5990
@baonkang5990 3 жыл бұрын
+10 to armour
@nobbyclarke9166
@nobbyclarke9166 Жыл бұрын
There’s probably ethical questions intertwined with this story throughout but you can’t deny the creativity, ingenuity, dedication and persistence either.
@jellomiki
@jellomiki 4 жыл бұрын
I want to live and die in this cape
@ISamuelII
@ISamuelII 9 жыл бұрын
Little by little, bit by bit, can result in something much bigger than the parts. Who says hoarders are gnutts. I've ran into the webs of orb weavers, and another kind. From what I noticed about the strength different, Black or Brown Widow spider silk could be better than Kevlar, if it was easy to get it in bulk. That Web is one tough web compared to an Orb Weavers web.
@sparrowspotty
@sparrowspotty 10 ай бұрын
The garment was gorgeous, but it looked bad on this model. It was too hard to find a brown-skinned person in Madagascar?
@EH23831
@EH23831 3 жыл бұрын
🤯
@brice2597
@brice2597 3 жыл бұрын
That’s probably bulletproof
@anangookwewolf2449
@anangookwewolf2449 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this in my textile science class and apparently it can stop a bullet lol and that is still the craziest bit of information I've ever learned in fashion school
@brice2597
@brice2597 3 жыл бұрын
@@anangookwewolf2449 nature is so incredibly interesting
@incibetul7663
@incibetul7663 Жыл бұрын
Is it true after one day stolen this hard work garment
@saskialee
@saskialee 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this not modeled by one of the artisans? Why is this centered around white people when it is obviously not their heritage/practice/culture? Glad that someone is keeping this tradition alive, but this is quite a classic British colonialist approach.
@Rain_Reign
@Rain_Reign 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing 😕
@jasonantigua6825
@jasonantigua6825 2 жыл бұрын
Call the Police and report them!!!
@marcarriaga8833
@marcarriaga8833 11 жыл бұрын
most people find spiders creepy but when u see this the next time u see a spider ur not going to sqush it your going to captur it an let it go
@yuegao6496
@yuegao6496 3 жыл бұрын
hope both nicholas and simon get what they deserve
@DennisMook-ky6lx
@DennisMook-ky6lx 6 ай бұрын
The time it take it want to be worth 15 to 20 million
@peppertalks6948
@peppertalks6948 3 жыл бұрын
And they made a poncho
@thuhuong3180
@thuhuong3180 12 жыл бұрын
A great way to create JOBS...Let's all go to Madagascar to collect golden orbs....or create Spider-Silk....Factories... So Beautiful!...What a wonderful creation!......It certainly should belong the the great museum....Unique creation...Wish everyone could see it....
@1hayes1
@1hayes1 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it was inevitable that the model was going to be white. Still sad and predictably colonialist. Britain don't learn.
@1hayes1
@1hayes1 3 жыл бұрын
@@yardner1963 It's a matter of meaning, not beauty. The project acknowledged the actual producers of the work (for example, by incorporating traditional motifs), but at the very last moment betrays the actual power relations behind a garment that commanded an extraordinary effort to make.
@blupyxi5669
@blupyxi5669 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. After all of the Natives work, they thought who would be best to wear the garment was a white woman. After everything they were capable of, they still thought a white woman more worthy. Heartbreaking and sad.
@bdp8102
@bdp8102 3 жыл бұрын
@@1hayes1 that, and the fact that these two white guys are at the center of attention - even though this was the work of Malagasy workers and weavers, particularly Malagasy women - proves the fact that this whole operation was just a weird occidental flex. the result is very beautiful, but the spotlight should entirely be on the people of Madagscar and their extraordinary creativity and skill.
@1hayes1
@1hayes1 3 жыл бұрын
@@bdp8102 I don't accept that the spotlight should be entirely on or off of anyone. These men were able to gather resources and carry through a very ambitious project, and though I don't know the details of the operation, I trust that they had progressive labour conditions. In short, the textile has to be regarded as an inter-cultural production, and while the balance of credit and productivity and representation should be open to discussion, there's no point in being naive or idealistic. It's only fair to say that without these relatively enlightened white men, this project would not exist at all.
@1hayes1
@1hayes1 3 жыл бұрын
@@bdp8102 One more point - we are both subject to anthropocentrism. It's entirely reasonable to say that primary credit should go to the spiders, not the white or black/brown human beings. I wonder how they felt being used and not paid. This garment may go down as a terrible time in spider history or maybe they are incredibly proud of the garment and plan to see it the next time they go to the V&A.
@Mike-yu4gq
@Mike-yu4gq 8 ай бұрын
When you go to war wearing that you gunna wipe Thanos
@jamalnakhat
@jamalnakhat 7 ай бұрын
One day: Sire? "Yes?" Where the hell are the 1.2 million spiders? "...H-" We didn't even finish making the cape. "...Uh-" *Where the hell are they.* "..What do you mea-" *INCLUDING THE BIGGEST ONE.*
@wwHNC
@wwHNC 12 жыл бұрын
Áo này cũ rồi . ... ngày xưa SpiderMann đã mặc ! ra chợ trời VN thấy có ....
@eehabesha
@eehabesha 3 жыл бұрын
Traveling to Africa: using African spiders: harvesting using Africans and weaved it using Africans but when it comes to model it, well let's call an European model 🤔🤔🤔 typically coloniser's...
@NYdxn
@NYdxn 12 жыл бұрын
Độc là vì hiếm,nhưng trông cái áo dày cui như thế làm sao mà mát rượi như tơ tằm được. Nắng SG anh đi mà chợt mát bởi vì em mặc áo lụa Hà Đông (NS)
@terrabelle9937
@terrabelle9937 Жыл бұрын
This gives me the same vibes as Cathy Hay's peacock dress project... They are not good vibes.
@leonal522
@leonal522 2 жыл бұрын
White talking head but dark weaving hands: tells a lot about the world we live in.
@TheGranti7a
@TheGranti7a 3 жыл бұрын
Magical?!! Men, not knowing HOW to frame the S A C R E D into mortal language.
@dawnheerah7796
@dawnheerah7796 3 жыл бұрын
How can I contact them ?
@Liisa3139
@Liisa3139 3 жыл бұрын
Why the f_ does there have to be music on this???! All of us middle-aged and older (plus some younger) people struggle with hearing well in situations when there is noise. We are a majority in the museum clientele.
@Dezeuxis
@Dezeuxis 3 жыл бұрын
Sad and cruel
@charleswalker1185
@charleswalker1185 3 жыл бұрын
At least they dont eat the spider babies...
@dixietenbroeck8717
@dixietenbroeck8717 3 жыл бұрын
⚖ *SEVERAL ⚖ REQUESTS ⚖ TO ⚖ WEIGH ⚖ IT, -- SO* _WEIGH ⚖ IT,_ *FOR ⚖ PETE'S ⚖ SAKE!!!* ⚖
@zaidlacksalastname4905
@zaidlacksalastname4905 2 жыл бұрын
Who built Thebes of the 7 gates ? In the books you will read the names of kings. Did the kings haul up the lumps of rock ? And Babylon, many times demolished, Who raised it up so many times ? In what houses of gold glittering Lima did its builders live ? Where, the evening that the Great Wall of China was finished, did the masons go? Great Rome is full of triumphal arches. Who erected them ? Over whom did the Caesars triumph ? Had Byzantium, much praised in song, only palaces for its inhabitants ? Even in fabled Atlantis, the night that the ocean engulfed it, The drowning still cried out for their slaves. The young Alexander conquered India. Was he alone ? Caesar defeated the Gauls. Did he not even have a cook with him ? Philip of Spain wept when his armada went down. Was he the only one to weep ? Frederick the 2nd won the 7 Years War. Who else won it ? Every page a victory. Who cooked the feast for the victors ? Every 10 years a great man. Who paid the bill ? So many reports. So many questions. From "Questions from a worker who reads"
@hakimmalek8317
@hakimmalek8317 3 жыл бұрын
getting milked for good
@alisoncleeton877
@alisoncleeton877 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful but I would never wear it. My skin is itching just thinking about all those spiders😱
@jimtamim1708
@jimtamim1708 10 ай бұрын
Classic westerner claiming the other countries product as theirs
@gov.fuckabeelikesoven4813
@gov.fuckabeelikesoven4813 7 жыл бұрын
next task guys: turn Grand Canyon into a swimming pool using only a tablespoon :)For God sakes, the ammount of work ans dedication that went into this project is uncomprehensible ! It's true that is unique (and I'm almost certain it will remain this way for a very long time) but still, can you imagine if some idiot douche robbs it (like it happend in France 200 years ago) or, even worse, it gets destroyed ?!? I can't imagine what you guys would do, seriously !
@Mageneated
@Mageneated 6 жыл бұрын
Not trying to hate on the specific model, but if you're going to display something worth millions of dollars, (priceless, really), couldn't you afford a more attractive model? The weird, heavy makeup and basic hair really brings down the expensive feeling
@Rubicon1954
@Rubicon1954 5 жыл бұрын
I found myself wishing to see it on native Malagasy person. It would have looked much better and more real on someone who was actually involved in the harvest, weaving, and embroidery of this amazing garment.
@harthiveaplacefordesign9131
@harthiveaplacefordesign9131 5 жыл бұрын
And the rich golden colour would look so much better on dark skin. It’s not a great colour for a white woman.
@ellenm9715
@ellenm9715 8 ай бұрын
It’s sad that they spent three years constructing this garment, and a whole team of people were involved only for viewers to look past the spectacular garment and get upset over who modeled it.
@kerberose
@kerberose 6 ай бұрын
Most people are upset at more than just the person who modeled it... But it is also a genuinely good point that for a garment so deeply steeped in Malagasy culture, it seems odd to show it in such an Europeanised frame.
@blackkid9498
@blackkid9498 2 жыл бұрын
What a waste
@jamesstamoulis7916
@jamesstamoulis7916 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, YOU are being "colonialist." How dare you presume to speak for the artisans! For all you know they may be happy to have their tradition showcased, and they appear quite happy in the video. The two men speaking are the creators of this robe. They created the actual design, they propelled the project, they, (along with the Museum) financed it, and they labored over the details for three years. They, not you, get to decide who wears it. Just because they let one model wear it does not mean they didn't let anyone else wear it. Your use of the term "white people" shows your racism. Singling anyone out because of the color of their skin is wrong.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 11 күн бұрын
Actually the artisan studio who weaved and embroidered this was brought together by Simon Peers, one of these two guys. He's deeply involved in the preservation of local weaving techniques for the past 30 years. This project raised the profile of the Lamba Sarl studio which had already had some of its works exhibited in several international galleries. This is literally generating business for the locals.
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