I appreciate that comment! I bet the light blue is going to be sick. Hope you enjoy the rest 🤘

Appreciate that! I think you’ll enjoy this and find a surprise.

I got my 2 time lapse today, i really liked the purple one, got s little turn out of it, gonna be intressting to see how that one beats in!🤩 my Green/Yellow was a meat hook 😂

Hes got the speed for 12, just not the speed to get flip out of beefcakes

I think he has enough speed, but his nose angle seems a tad high. He clearly got the 13 speed Tenacity up to speed. The disc just had to turn to negate the nose angle before it started to make progress. Nose angle is usually a big reason why people throw slower discs further. I used to throw Octane and Photon the same distance too before I corrected my grip.

That makes a lot of sense! I’ve thrown a lift and a mantra, but not an insanity yet.

Thank you! That’s exciting!

Haha I get that with the massive skips and control. Glad this one will work for you!!

That sounds pretty. How strong was the headwind?

@@FlippyJamesDG I mean it’s kind of pretty. When I first got it I thought it was ugly but it’s growing on me. The headwind was consistent but only maybe 5-10 mph. I don’t have a huge arm at all like 350 to 400 is my max distance. I’m able to say that the disc is definitely not super overstable. It seems just right for me.

How far do you usually throw? Heard the white ones are on the yellow plate level

@@FlippyJamesDG I'm not sure honestly. I haven't really tried measuring, but I believe I can throw over 400'. Next time I'm out doing some field work I'll use my rangefinder.

Haven’t thrown one, also not the biggest fission fan though.

my Octane is one of my go tos for sure.

Agreed. Done my longest golf shots with the Fission Octane. Easy hyzerflip distance out of the box. They've put out some 150 class ones now, too! If you want something very easy-throwing instead, I highly recomment the Trace. F Octane kind of just keeps going when it hits its angle, which is awesome for distance, but Trace has a more predictable S flight and it gives me 80% of my max distance with minimal effort and is super accurate.

I've got a 166g Neutron octane and it flies stupid far - a bit too beat in now, but fantastic flight when you throw 400 and below

Wow I bet you have an awesome collection!

I’d like to see that purple se fly!

Thanks for the sub! Hoping one of them works out for you 😃

@@FlippyJamesDGwell they flew about how I expected for my arm speed, definitely wasn’t able to get any turn out of either one but the purple one glided further before fading out. My purple one has a much bigger dome than my red one and even the rim sizes seem to be a bit different

What’s your favorite gyro putter?

@@FlippyJamesDG so many lol. I love the proxy, envy, atom and watt. And if course the glitch. I'm just a glidey beadless fan for throwing. The plastic I use varies by mold, and right now I putt with a jester love. Also a great throwing putter.

Thank you! I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes I don’t get the flip because of too much hyzer, but when it hits it hits!

@@FlippyJamesDG and when it hits you're like okay... I'm.... The best of all time or...

“Where do you order the tour card at?”

@@FlippyJamesDG hahaha I like to imagine I'll receive my pro tour invites by USPS

Don’t feel any hate a valid point. Where I’m throwing from, the goal post is 360. The panic was near it, with the skip. Tenacity went passed 400 with a skip. Defy was near the panic. This was the end of a full day of throwing too. One of those factors haha Main goal was to see a difference in stability, not so much distance, which I think it showed.

Na bro..from goal post to 10 yard line is 300. You're hitting like 280 to 300 tops. You can always throw and then walk the camera to your disc if I'm wrong but I can clearly see them hitting the field before the end zone. Even if you get it to 400...they should be hitting at least 500 for full flight.

@ryanmayfield8193 the “should be” part is what I disagree with.

Reeeaaallly!? Do you know why that is?

@@FlippyJamesDG No idea! I would have thought the SE/Stock/Blanks all came from the same run. Gonna have to wait to throw them because it’s in the 20s with a freezing wind chill by me.

Ah I meant the 11 vs 12 speed part.

@@FlippyJamesDG Ahh that I don’t know for sure. They have never publicly stated a reason. But as a sales rep/marketer my guess would be that before they got James Conrad they were a much smaller disc golf brand. For disc golf companies the 12/5/-1/3 slot is a make it or break it slot. Having a bad destroyer like distance driver could ruin an upcoming disc golf brands name. I think it’s smart to market your brand just based off of your quality in the beginning, then move up productions levels (which is exactly what happened when JC won worlds) and then invest in a huge name that can sell your first 12 speed like hot cakes. James Conrad and Simon Lizotte were absolutely perfect signings for the company both in brand recognition and production levels.

These all felt the same to me.

People are going to go nuts when the light weight fission ones get released

Forehanding flat top discs is what I prefer too.

Also, thanks for the compliment!

I like the vanish too

Hmmmm what makes you say that?

I have the twin to the blue one and I’m wondering this as well! Threw it in a round and tried to rip it my and it was beef!

I have no idea. Some comments in the FB group say it’s end of the batch of plastic?

Hmmm someone else mentioned that but I’m not sure.

Have you thrown a scorch ever?

@@FlippyJamesDG I haven’t, I thought I would love a champion Tern bc of the flight numbers but it was a roller disc for me.

I agree that I need to try a wave. Only ever threw the OTB eclipse one from last year, it didn’t want to turn for me then.

@@FlippyJamesDG I throw a 168 OTB eclipse and it barely does. On the other hand, Fission is a super clean S-flight at 168 or more.

Haha when editing I was like dang, dump truck 3 times in one video eh? 😂

@@FlippyJamesDG never second guess yourself bro your instincts are ironclad

Hahaha love the concrete beat in strategy.

Update, it's still grade A beef. Really windy out there today and the time lapse is made for head wind

I don’t know about “all over the place” for the disc. My second 2 hyzers were definitely higher, but the flat throws were pretty similar throws. My anhyzers were a little different too but based on the height and angle, yellow plate had more stability.

It's not just your review, Simon's flights were not that greatest either, I liked the prototypes he threw with Bodanza, the flight was so good.@@FlippyJamesDG

@discjunkiesDGT I get it. As you said, next run maybe!

Thank you man!

Throwing far isn’t so much what the video is about. End zone to end zone is 360. Keeping the camera flat on the ground makes it difficult to actually see where they ended up. I appreciate the comment.

Ah dang! Have you thrown it yet?

That’s awesome to hear. I’m going to throw this purple one on every hole I play for fun just to get it to beat in faster and see how much flip it will get. Also, great comparison with the movie haha

Let me know for sure!

Haven’t thrown one of those

Didn’t exactly keep track or focus on that for this video. Just general are. More about flight characteristics of the discs 😃

Still have never thrown a shryke. Do you like having different flights out of the same mold?

@@FlippyJamesDG absolutely, I use my purple shryke for max distance cause it will flip and hold the line for like 5 second then flip back to stable and slowly die off

My man! That’s a great name for the purple I love it!

@@FlippyJamesDG I gotchu man! Made me think of the wild berry pop tart that’s also purple and blue. I wanna get a wild Berry now after watching this

@DiscRespect now officially named wild berry pop tart.

I do know MVP/Axiom have different numbers on some of their discs in different plastic. I think “what he wanted” and what they put out with flight numbers isn’t as fair to compare. What he wanted might have been 12 5 -1 2 but ended up being 12 5 -1 3 so that’s what they put on (example) I think there are a lot of discs from different companies out there with flight numbers that are off.

Rock on man! Have fun with it!

Appreciate that but it went like 350 on that shot. It definitely has more in it though.

Check the flat shots.

Those were all over 300. Did you watch the full video?

Yeah, I did. All your time lapse throws were 300’ or less. You’re on a football field you can’t lie. You threw one wild shot that you said was 400 (it was not) but it was far from a golf line. Just don’t review 12 speeds bud you don’t have the arm

I’m throwing even with the goal post on my side of the field. So the goal post on the other end is 360 away…

@@FlippyJamesDG…but you didn’t reach the goal post on the other side… …

@@bryansullivan9694 still wasn’t under 300’ throws 😂

Watch Simons video

@@FlippyJamesDG been playing 10yrs. It's just a market thing like limited edition to sell that disc ..( everything is limited edition in disc golf ). I have black to red to clear to glow..the glow does have more power in it's flight it's heavier . But the colors don't matter at all... The weight does...168 full power will dive bomb not able to hold it's line. Vs same disc 175+ Math says it all with the factor of science. The color means nothing just what do you like more or what fits your bag.. Simon is a sell out god.he turned his back completely on who made him That's like you spent all your time and money into a girl and then she got everything and the big house and gold ring to say.. I'm walking away across the street to the guy who promised me more MVP.. MVP didn't need Simon to make a 12 speed. There DEFY & PROTON PHOTON. Can and will do the same thing just like the wraith and destroyer.. Simon is just a market tool now a fat over weight grey chin sell out..

@@FlippyJamesDG Paul Mcbeth has been on countless events and and his name on discs you hear nothing about him he keeps to himself and enjoys disc golf .. not chasing blogs and famousness ( Simon) Sells you a disc that's not even the correct flight for 40$ 😂 Prototype..

Except it literally does... Every manufacturer has come out and stated the same thing. Here's Gateway's statement. "Color effects temperature, which effects the cooling rate of shrinkage, which effects the final shape of the disc, which effects stability."

​@user-dz6tx8tc1w dang. Did he turn you away from an autograph or something my guy?

Imagine love throwing discs no matter how far that go.