Benchmark for ALL reviews, not just sim racing. I mean he literally went from commenting about using plastic housings for PCBs due to EM interference to talking about the material used for ball bearings. This man has mechanical and electrical engineering chops. Awesome gem! Gosh I love the future.

It's been a while now, how do you like these pedals?

@@wuzumaki No complaints at all, a lot sturdier overall than the Sprints I had. All pedals have a nice feel to them, throttle is smoother and easier to modulate, trail braking is much easier with the progressive feel of the damper and clutch feels more fluid. Extremely well built and worked with no issues out of the box, highly recommended!

@@pooljunkie85 That's great to hear. I've already placed a pre-order, but I'm on batch 8 which is going to be finished by the end of September. Did you get them with the optional baseplate or do you have them mounted differently?

@@wuzumaki Yeah I got the baseplate with it, easy to put together, really sturdy like the pedals themselves and mounts on my P1X pedal tray with ease.

Feel good don't they lol

Just got mine :)

@@NesterowiczRacing Hi, ..hey are you happy with them ??

@@reefsurfing3273 OHH YEA!!! Really smooth and precise, from hardware to software. love them.

@@NesterowiczRacing thanks for your reply 👍

@@NesterowiczRacing how do you rate them next year for me definitely on my list of upgrades

@@designamk1160 😂

These and the simworx pedals are by far the best looking pedals on the market.

Did you get sorted and how easy was.the fix overall

Have you received them yet?

​@@volo1826 ​Yep I've had them for the 2 months now and couldn't be happier. I ended up getting the email to order the VRS literally a 2 days later and I still ordered them too. I actually only tried the VRS for a day then installed the Simtrecs and I've been too happy with them to go through the hassle switching to the VRS to test them further but I will once I get more free time.

@@Havok412 hey did you ever try the VRS? I’m trying to decide between the two right now

@@cptclutch2530 Hey yes actually we built a budget second rig so my brother could play too and we used the VRS pedals. They're honestly great too but overall I still prefer the Simtrecs. However one of my reasons is that the Simtrecs just feel closer to how a car would feel and I prefer that. The VRS are harder to setup since they have much more adjustments you can tinker with and you have to use a separate control box. The simtrecs have that built-in to the pedals. I didn't feel the need to adjust the Simtrecs beyond the options it has. and the default way the VRS came in where fine for the most part. Overall it still falls down to preference and for me, the Simtrecs were plug in play, they looks amazing, feel closer to real pedal box. Adjustments on the Simtrecs are easy and the instructions are great. Negatives were Sim3D rumble motors are double sided taped onto the gas pedal since there is no option to hard mount. VRS pedals use the same hardware. (They work great on both I just don't know if it will last). Adjustments on the VRS are not necessarily hard but there is steeper learning curve on how to adjust them properly if you want things like a harder or softer feel brake or longer or shorter travel. There is no manual and the only sources are from a VRS video that you would need to reference. I don't particularly like the feel of the VRS throttle. I get its super responsive as it has no dampener and it only uses the spring. You can adjust it to feel more heavy but for me its still not heavy enough. It does have a competitive edge though. Simtrecs are more expensive but you get what you pay for. Not meaning the VRS are cheap I just think they're both prices well for what you get on either decision.

Sim3D now has the rumble kit available for the Simtrecs. I ordered my set but he has a long lead time right now.

Did you ever get them? If so, how are they?

@@budokaiboy yes, I’ve had issues with them that I’m still working on with the manufacturer. Haven’t been able to get them working properly, but once I do, I’ll let you know what I think. The quality of the pedals themselves is phenomenal for the price, and the manufacturer has been really attentive with customer service, even though it’s been months of working to resolve the issues.

@@ren930 what issues are you having?

@@ren930 why cant they be replaced with a fresh set

@@budokaiboy fluctuating readings from the pedals

How long did it take you to get them? I'm tempted to pre-order them too

@@thinkrtank991 ordered Feb 2021, and received them in July. Not a single regret--beautiful pieces of gear. Great customer service, even being a US customer. For me, after hitting the "pre-order" button, I was contacted with a production estimate and an estimated ship date before I paid. Estimate was very good. I was "batch 6", and from their FB page it looks like they recently completed "batch 13". So their production estimates are probably really solid now. Buy with confidence!

ive made some

Did you end up getting this, and how is it in comparison to the HE Ultimate?

@@wuzumaki still in line

@@langmeng825 Ok. I might line up myself. Construction seems very similar to HE Ultimate, but cheaper. I also prefer the long throttle pedal. Haven't finished the review yet, so I have yet to hear the final conclusion.

@@langmeng825 So how is it?

I ordered the cup1’s 2 days ago. I have a feeling I will be emailing them later to cancel

@@chunkylecky the cups are actually really good. I've been very happy with them.

@@atrain132 absolutely I cannot dispute that as until a few hours ago I was very happy with my order. These I feel are just a bit better in every way. I am very happy they have a proper software to go with them.

I'd say the fact Barry has these still on his rig as his daily driver answers that question.

Too bad nothing is ever compared

This is a loadcell brake...

He was barley pushing on them. He probably has a deadzone setup so he doesn't actually break if he's resting his foot too much on the brake pedal.

Wide.

How have they been performing so far? Would you recommend them for the price?

@@AndreBrah worth every penny

I've been debating if it's worth upgrading from my Sprints (2000$ in Canada). it's basically the same tech used for both pedals but the extra cost for a such a beautiful pedal only offering dampers and much better looking product might be best to invest into something different like Hydraulic. If Simucube didn't cost 3500$ per pedal I would do that. I know when you get a new piece of gear we all get exited and forget the fundamentals so after all this time what's your general opinion and what are the bad about these Simtrecs?

It's the same tech used in high-end cars I don't see this being an issue

@@____________________ok Super cheap laser cutting??

@@____________________ok HE ultimates use laser cut parts but is it a better pedal set? So do Meca Cup 1's. Are these worth the extra because they are cnc machined? I get your paying for asthetics is that worth the $xxx price difference between other pedals

1. I think the SRG just give a thorough explanation of each product. Doesn't seem fairing comparing because preference is subjective. 2. Price could vary quite a lot depending on shipping and taxes for where different people live. 3. Best thing to do is get as many different opinions on feel as possible (or test them), and make your own decision based on your criteria, and remember to check shipping & taxes. 4. I think you'll more likely get a response if you phrase your questions differently i.e. "Which are your favourite pedals?" or "Which are your favourite budget pedals?" rather than asking for a direct comparison, or ranking. Or maybe try and email SRG so that it isn't in the video comments?

Im also deciding between these two at the moment. Here are some of my considerations which might be useful. I still haven't made my mind but.. Ill share anyway: 1. Heusinkveld handle more force but most people dont need the forces that even Simtrecs handle. 2. Heusinkvelds use all load cells which basically have infinite life (like 200 million cycles or sth ridiculous like that). Simtrecs use pots which will eventually wear maybe years down the line, but consider that even logitechs use cheap pots compared to this and Ive seen some of those work for like 10 years easily. The pots seem to be easily replaceable by the user if you can find the correct part number too. 3. Heusinkveld use a cheaper manufacturing process like you said and look worse than simtrecs (Simtrecs are absolutely beautiful), and also use off the shelf dampers. Even though this is the case, I believe it is a good thing as you can replace the parts on your own. Replacing the damper on the simtrecs can be done by the user, but the part might need to be sourced from them as they are anodized. You might be able to get something off the shelf but it wouldn't have that color. Of course, this is given that the fail which is highly unlikely. The dampers also seem to work better on simtrecs from the videos ive seen. Just watch the two SRG reviews. 4. Hs have an external electronics box, which is extrenal -> more interference, more cables but can be upgraded down the line. Also they are 12 bit vs 16 bit on the Simtrecs but in the practical sense it doesn't matter, and Hvelds can be upgraded down the line. Simtrecs are difficult to replace the electronics ( not that hard if you can get a board from them, but harder than Hs) , but how many times has some simple electronics board gone bad on you? 5. Simtrecs easily have the better presentation (not even close), cost the manufacturers more (maybe atleast double the manufacturing cost), have better software, although Hveld seems to be working on one for Ultimates. 6. Simtrecs are cheaper by like 200 USD, but you might have to wait. I placed a preorder and I am in batch 6 (didn't have to pay anything yet), however they are estimated to ship at the end of july or in august. Hvelds are available almost always. 7. Simtrecs use a weird usb cable which is difficult to obtain, 1/8 inch jack to usb. Might need to contact the manufacturer for a replacement. 8. Hveld are an amazing company with an established, tried and tested product, with great customer service. I know they are almost certain to exist maybe 10 years later too. Simtrecs are new but I don't know if they will be there long term or if they are a boutique manufacturer and they focus on this short term. They probably will be there and this wont matter if the product lasts. 9. One flaw in the design of simtrecs I found is on the throttle pedal. On the max throw setting, the pot arm seems to touch the back. This is not a load bearing part and it might be possible to bend it with enough force. You can easily solve it by setting it to a slightly lower throw setting, where this arm doesn't touch. The pedals also seems to have a hard stop as barry mentions in the review. Heusinkvelds have a soft stop which can feel better under the feet and uses an easily replaceable blue stopper (looks like urethane, not sure though). In short, Hveld seems to have a philosophy of extreme durability and easy maintenance, and awesome customer service, but also with higher margins. You can also see this from them just using stock fibroelastomers that kinda look ugly compared to the all black ones on the Simtrecs (although the sprints have nice looking ones). Simtrecs are more about creating an elegant product that kinda hits all the marks ( apple like in a sense). It easily costs them more than twice as much to make their pedals than Hveld, given same labour costs, and are also cheaper. Hveld Ultimates are also quite old, and may have an upgrade soon in the next couple years or so I think, but I don't know how they can make it better, other than maybe integrate the electronics at the cost of some servicability, and have some nice software with it. Which is better? I dont know. I would like some of your suggestions as I don't know which one to buy. In any sense, having either of these pedals will be a dream to use anyway.

@@anupjsebastian at the end of the day I bought the Meca Cup 1's. To me they sit between the HE sprints and ultimates. Do they look as nice? No but my feet are on them so I don't care as much. I can almost buy 2 sets for the cost of HE ultamotes. Software - they both use the same and it works. I think parts would be a wash either way. Like you said a control board is a pretty easy swap on HE and Meca's. I haven't heard of anyone having issues with either pedal set. Buy what makes you happy. You are the only one who has to live wirh that decision. I choose to use pedals that work for what I want and use the savings on other sim gear. Good luck man.

His go to/everyday wheelbase is a Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2. The cockpit in this video is the GT Omega Prime so he just put the Fanatec DD2 on there to do a review of the cockpit.

@@BlessYoo got it, thanks :)

You realize Sebring has more turns than laguna seca right?

Yes, you can see them mounted to it in the driving segment.

Ohhh Noooo, could this be your first future NON Shifter video, R-VR Closet, hahahaha

@@SingleRacerSVR Nah, I think I stick with shifters!! XD

Yes, they ship to the US. If you haven't put in your preorder with Simtrecs by now, I doubt you'll get them for September.

Some people claim they're even better than Ultimate

After trying them at sim racing garage i would have to put my opinion that they are better than the ultimate's just my opinion

I‘m stupid. I meant the ultimates. 🤦‍♂️

I believe you. They are definitely on top of my pedals wishlist. But for now I have to stick to my modded out Logitech’s with true brake mod and my 3D printed bitepoint mechanism for the clutch.

@Robert Schneider i was fortunate enough to get the hpp prx se for a reasonable price..im sure at least satisfied with the extra modding until that day comes! :)

Maybe a little late but here you go: The Simtrecs are about on par with the Ultimates, therefore clearly above the Sprints. If they are better than the Ultimates I can't say.

@@bjornromermann5080 thanks for the reply, I ended up getting the Simtrecs in Jan this year, not one bit of regret.

Short answer is no. Basically there is no other pedalset other then from Fanatec, Thrustmaster or Logitech which work with consols.

@@C42ST3N Thanks.

Me too 😅

Hahaha

@@MatthewPlaisance which pedal set did you go for buddy?

@@RoarS89 I got the Fanatec V3s with the performance kit, friend. Lol

@@MatthewPlaisance Nice man, my V3's are getting swapped with the MECA CUP1-3's. :)

Yes

@adam45899 yeah I've been using them for 2 weeks now and Holy cow what an amazing piece of kit

Yes, you can mount in the slots, 14cm between the bolts. Be aware that you will need to buy M6 25 or 30mm bolts, large strong washers and nut. And the M6 will exactly just fit, its tight. Another option could be to mount directly in the p1alu profiles that might be a better option possibly, but I am not sure where a heel plate would go if needed. They also sell their own baseplate as you see in Barry's review.

@@Quickmcj Yeah, I saw the measurements yesterday, and it seem to be a very snug fit without any room for depth adjustment. The reason I want to have it on the universal plate is because I have a slider attached to it. I'm not sure if the Simtrec Baseplate is compatible with the slider. Do you have these pedals, and if so, how did you mount yours?

@@wuzumaki yes and they are mounted the way you want it 🙂 It works, but I feel the slider flexes a tiny bit when braking hard. I do consider mounting as Barry, and then with quick release bolts in the profiles of P1, to slide the pedals back (so skipping the sim lab slider and base plate) Sliding on the side profiles on P1 as I propose will possibly leave marks after some time. But that should be very strong. I have the wide simtrecs baseplate that is too wide to mount on the sim lab slider baseplate. You could possibly mount it in the bottom of the profiles and then through the slots in the sim lab baseplate. Or maybe choose the narrow simtrecs baseplate, I do not know if its mounting holes align with the simlab slider baseplate.

@@Quickmcj Ok, thats good to hear. Judging by the schematics, the Simtrecs plates don't align with the Sim-Lab Slider baseplate or the slider itself. Didn't expect the slider to have any flex at all. Since it's only a tiny bit it probably doesn't bother you? Your QR solution seems like a possible way to do it, but that leaves the possibilty of creating a whole bunch of scratches, which everyone wants to avoid. I'll try the direct mounting when I get them. Thanks for your help.

@@wuzumaki Its a very tiny amount of flex , you cannot feel it, but you can see it. If you remove the slider, and mount the simlab baseplate to the p1 profile base, that might work (giving you heel support) or as you say directly in the profiles. Or with the slider as I do atm :) Sure np.

Wtf? Apart from the two likes no one understand your joke.

IMHO, it Depends on the pedal setup in the roadcar you’re driving. With f.e. BMW, you can use the side of your foot. With Porsche you need to move your heel over to get on the throttle.

Depends on the set up of the pedals of the car. Carl Yarborough of nascar was famous for his "toe-heel" method. Heel on the brake, and tow to blip the throttle. Since the brake pedal and throttle pedal are far apart on a stock car. Like many things, I expect the correct method is whatever it takes for you to win.

It was 1172 Euro (with the optional baseplate) shipped to Canada, before customs/taxes.

Those look like Vishay cermet long life high precision potentiometers with a (within specs), minimum, 2 million cycle lifetime. Very easy to replace and not that expensive, when you need to do so, after maybe a decade.

@@Quickmcj Thank you for pointing out the difference. I have only experienced bad potentiometers I suppose. I used to have issues with many pots being that I was a musician for much of my life and also my sim gear I recently purchased from Fanatec failed within a couple days (Handbrake). Knowing this and hearing others go through similar problems is a no-go for me now. I understand potentiometers can have different quality levels as anything does but there is no denying hall effect sensors should theoretically outlast any potentiometer. Even load cell technology bothers me a bit. I'm just all for sim gear to be as robust as possible and adding failure points to gear in this price range seems like a poor choice.

@@DouglasThompson Your point is valid, but exactly these pots should last a long time and is easy to replace. A lot of equipment do come with cheap pots for sure. Also, you can actually replace the pots with hall position sensors if you really want to extend lifetime. They are in the same rotary form as pots and input output the same.

@@Quickmcj that's good to know, thank you for sharing your information

wow i was gonna say :finally something different then HE knockoffs. I would buy these instead of the ultimates if i would pay that much for pedals.

In that case watch the review ;)

Couldn’t be more different to HE.

Look better than HE's to me.

I have the Simtrecs and they are really nice set of pedals! But you can try these for something different.. facebook.com/SIMGRADE-1314693295281981 These are made in Finland btw.

After trying these at the S.R.G i think you will be VERY HAPPY with the purchase!!! :)

SO, how do you like them, should I pull the trigger?

Same question as the other dude. Did you get them? How long did it take to get them?

@@thinkrtank991 For me its was a toss up between these and the Asetek Invicta. I went with the Asetek. Just waiting for delivery.

@@thinkrtank991 I'll be getting mine on Monday, currently using Fanatec V'3.