Singapore: The Real Ba Sing Se

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Elliot Sang

Elliot Sang

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Singapore seems like a bastion of peace and safety in an age of disorder and discontent. Its reality is quite different.
00:00 Introduction
03:46 Manta Sleep
05:03 The Singapore Story
13:48 "All Men Are Not Equal"
26:02 "Safe"
38:44 Ba Sing Se, and the Real Singapore Story
Much thanks to Ori and Carissa for their contributions.
Additional reading on the Safety4Harvey movement: victimsofmalice.com/
safetyforsingapore.com/
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edited by Danae O.
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@alphonml6220
@alphonml6220 2 ай бұрын
As a Singaporean, I can confirm that there is no war in Ba Sing Se
@kittiecandy747
@kittiecandy747 2 ай бұрын
The emperor invites you to yishun
@barbatos9555
@barbatos9555 2 ай бұрын
@@kittiecandy747 not yishun☠
@kappachino3431
@kappachino3431 2 ай бұрын
@@kittiecandy747 yishun gang, you either follow the govt or sent to yishun
@Prxmetheus_
@Prxmetheus_ 2 ай бұрын
Yishun is the Bronx of sg
@GenericMedusa99
@GenericMedusa99 2 ай бұрын
yes there is no war in ba sing se, only in yishun
@oussamajilaliarbaoui1981
@oussamajilaliarbaoui1981 2 ай бұрын
This reminded me of a movie about the yakuza where they said "there is no crime in Japan" because "No one would report it as a crime, but instead as an accident" This opened my eye to news and statistics.
@jhawk1229
@jhawk1229 2 ай бұрын
I recall reading an article about slavery in Niger with a similar energy. When the government banned slavery in 2004, a Tuareg elder announced he was going to make a big show of releasing all his slaves, and the police came by to tell him not to, because "there is no slavery in Niger, it's been outlawed"
@terrivelmentegerundio.3927
@terrivelmentegerundio.3927 2 ай бұрын
what movie you are talking about, I want to watch
@husainimustapha4978
@husainimustapha4978 2 ай бұрын
@@terrivelmentegerundio.3927Tokyo Vice, highly recommended
@fancydirtblock9196
@fancydirtblock9196 2 ай бұрын
it's a game series@@terrivelmentegerundio.3927
@siyacer
@siyacer 2 ай бұрын
​@@jhawk1229average nigerian
@LydiaTaylorMusic
@LydiaTaylorMusic 2 ай бұрын
Watching Avatar as a kid really radicalized me tbh
@croozerdog
@croozerdog 2 ай бұрын
i think it unironically made me a better kid
@magnificloud
@magnificloud 2 ай бұрын
Genuinely made political and historical concepts so much easier to learn and comprehend
@schrodingerskatze2162
@schrodingerskatze2162 2 ай бұрын
Despite the attempts of the creators on Liberalism.
@rakha8812
@rakha8812 2 ай бұрын
@@schrodingerskatze2162 could you elaborate?
@yieeeeeeeeeeeeee
@yieeeeeeeeeeeeee 2 ай бұрын
​@@schrodingerskatze2162truu esp. on the comics, TLOK, and some unnecessary demonization on those who fight the oppression head on and not by ~peace and love~ I love the show to the moon and back but damn the creators do be sneaky af on using asian and indigenous complex sociopolitics only to go "excuse me do u have time to choose white liberalism as ur savior" on us 😩
@AlexJ1
@AlexJ1 2 ай бұрын
"No reported crime!" 'Reported' being the key word here.
@ahn0x
@ahn0x 2 ай бұрын
The biggest criminals are the legals ones, much like the US Lobbyists
@greyfox4838
@greyfox4838 2 ай бұрын
the reverse case happens with Sweden, they have the most robust sexual assault laws in the world, and as a result has one of the highest reported rapes in the world (their definition of rape is much wider and they take it more seriously), but instead of realizing that in other countries rape is under-reported, anti-immigrant grifters pretend that Sweden's white women are being mass raped by Muslim brown men
@christiangreen2324
@christiangreen2324 2 ай бұрын
As long as inequality exists there will always be crime
@SivalinPuthery
@SivalinPuthery 2 ай бұрын
That is funny. As a local, I have been seeing crime here and there since I was born. Pray tell, which country, does not have crime? The government even to this day, reminds citizens that "Low crime does not mean no crime". And here you people assuming that crime is not reported in Singapore. Are you delusional?
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 2 ай бұрын
The garment has never ever since I am here 1995 reported there is no crime.
@atmamaonline
@atmamaonline 2 ай бұрын
Hello! Singaporean here. Thank you. It's especially hard for us to be critical about this place because there are literally laws that allow the government to just take down anything they deem as misinformation. It's incredibly frustrating being here - in a place so unapologetically capitalist and prejudiced, full of people who don't care because they've been taught not to. It genuinely keeps me up at night. I have a lot of unkind things to say about this place and at 30 I've come to accept that I don't think there is a place on Earth where I'll feel at peace.
@pivomanslovensko
@pivomanslovensko 2 ай бұрын
While i like where i live, if my family and friends were taken care of i would like to try living in Rojava or Chiapas.
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
Right, i agree. I hope it gets better tho esp with the rise of more politically active youth and progressive underground activist and organisation circles becoming more active and people becoming more aware.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 2 ай бұрын
Take down anything? If you read the Singapore comments under CNA videos, the garment's tolerance is huge. Most of it is .... disturbing.
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 2 ай бұрын
​@@espeon871 Funny treasonous loon . No need to go "underground" to setup civic groups .
@atmamaonline
@atmamaonline 2 ай бұрын
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 ah yes. Their lives are shitty, so mine has no right to be. Understood. I'm only allowed to feel bad if I'm the most marginalised person on earth cause someone else always has it worse. Please tell me more. Also so what if they're Islamist? Edit: you know what, don't answer that. I don't want to talk to you. Have a good day.
@solisholder
@solisholder 2 ай бұрын
adding some stuff as a social worker in singapore: we are severely understaffed, almost always, and we earn barely enough (2k a month, i myself need 1.8k per month for expenses). we're usually looked down upon, and it's really prevalent when we see the government handing out social service funding like prize money instead of like. an actual necessity. "meritocracy" is a concept held in the hands of the government and the ruling class
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
Thats actually so sad, i didnt know! Omg, thats so horrible for people who are actively helping people.
@ahn0x
@ahn0x 2 ай бұрын
understaffed, underpaid, under-appreciated. & maybe the entire structure of it all is colonial/patronising too. TCJ calling Jamus for being "fucking populist" when Jamus suggests merely making the process less Byzantine. Why is it so difficult to understand ppl are trying their best in the ways that they can? When you understand how much medical trauma there is buried in this country, ppl will understand that "meritocracy" is a lie. So many ppl are walking around with missed diagnoses & struggling their whole lives, not understanding why. so much medical "unknown unknown" still
@MsKateC2K
@MsKateC2K 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the hard work you're doing. You're criminally underpaid considering how expensive Singapore is to live in... I recently visited Singapore for the first time and it was really fascinating, but it definitely reminded me a little of (a cleaner) new york city, where the wealth disparity is jarringly obvious and exploitation of workers is high.
@ImSkyblu
@ImSkyblu 2 ай бұрын
Underpaid, under appreciated and over worked seems mostly universal for social services :( thank you for everything you do to help people! Social workers are the modern hero’s :)
@dt3688
@dt3688 2 ай бұрын
Which makes me wonder how social work in poly has such a low cut off point with the low salary and all
@JeddtheJedi
@JeddtheJedi 2 ай бұрын
So this is obviously not an issue that only happens in Singapore, but there is an overall hostility towards the arts here - if not hostility, then it's definitely looked down upon. Lee Kuan Yew famously said "Singapore doesn't have the luxury of poetry", and it seems that attitude has never really gone away (ironic because there is a stage musical about Lee Kuan Yew called LKY the Musical). There is an arts scene, and there are many very talented people here, but they often have their aspirations crushed out of them early. As in all capitalistic societies, there is a fixation on income as a gauge of a person's worth - to many people here, it's the only gauge of a person's worth. You're looked down upon if you aren't in medicine, law or finance (the finance industry being especially fetishised here now). So "you can't make money in the arts" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Recently, Singapore struck an exclusivity deal with Taylor Swift to ensure she would perform in Singapore and in no other Southeast Asian countries on the Eras Tour, so Singapore wants the economic results of the arts, but doesn't want the arts themselves. The arts exist to the extent that they can serve the government and disseminate their message: anyone working in the arts in Singapore will have directly or indirectly worked for the government, and most filmmakers have made films and short films commissioned by the government even if they don't agree with the government. There is also at least some connection to how artists can have dissenting ideas and can present them effectively and persuasively, which is something the Singapore government wants to tamp down as much as possible, as mentioned in the video in the context of Operation Spectrum.
@kohyan5511
@kohyan5511 2 ай бұрын
i agree. I was an aspiring art student that wanted to learn something along the lines of graphic design and etc but i was put down, judged and questioned alot by my family members so i had to take a turn into architecture which isnt that bad but not what i really wanted. Many look down on our local art and media scenes and its really sad because there are some really talented people that wont be able to shine here. Its always STEM areas that parents want their children to be in and many singaporeans hence never came to appreciate the arts
@RestingWoman
@RestingWoman 2 ай бұрын
this is very well written,thank you for articulating
@Glibbard
@Glibbard 2 ай бұрын
This addition veers a bit away from Jedd's point, but something I feel important to note to is that Singapore-produced media is very heavily regulated since the major film corporation in Singapore, Mediacorp, is state-owned. It's very easy, especially for the elderly that probably only scrolls through Channel U or Channel 8 to only consume what the government allows. Similarly, our newspapers, the second source of information, is also, surprise surprise, state-owned. There's a lot of control the government have in the soft powers they have towards the mindsets of Singaporeans (because of the we believe what we consume yadda yadda) so sometimes when they say one thing, like "we don't care about people's personal lives" in reference to the lgbt folks, they can very discretely prove otherwise by slapping mature warnings over any lgbt media, even if it's the smallest of things (buzz lightyear movie getting a NC16 warning because of "portrayal of homosexuality" when it was really just a 3s background kiss scene at the end of the movie), just to blow the "severity" of the situation out of proportions and make it worse/more vile than it seems. But of course, because of how controlled the media produced by Singapore is, the products that come out of Mediacorp has kind of a "bad" reputation (plays very safe, even when it comes to film technicalities like scriptwriting, choice of angles, editing etc etc) so many creatives looking for work tend to not want to work for them either (in the film industry here in singapore, it's an insult to have your film be compared to mediacorp), but they don't really have much of a choice anyways because the art industry is very unstable here in Singapore. The pay is low, and the only major player in this industry which can at least guarantee some pay is Mediacorp so 🤷‍♀. In addition to this, there's this odd mentality Singaporean has that anything western/east asian is better than locally made products, so even when there are good locally produced films, it does poorly within the country (again, points back to the point raised by Jedd of how the government's rather anti-art mentality trickles down to its citizens). I'm just really lucky to have been born into a family who has found success in their respective creative fields. Honestly, if it wasn't for their own experiences, I don't think I would've been given this chance to continue following my passion till this day (current an art student in uni).
@JeddtheJedi
@JeddtheJedi 2 ай бұрын
@@Glibbard Thank you for adding this context. I think the points you made about how difficult it is to make films and TV series in Singapore and how most local audiences' perceptions of local productions are primed to be negative are really good. It just feels like a self-perpetuating cycle that's difficult to escape from. The entities in Singapore that should be helping to nurture it instead seem to function mainly to curtail it. I think another thing that's funny is that there are two main media entities, MediaCorp and Singapore Press Holdings (SPH), both of which are state-owned. MediaCorp mainly focuses on TV and film while SPH mainly focuses on publishing and publishes the main broadsheet newspapers, but there are overlaps (both operate radio stations and have news arms). There is a rivalry between them (SPH radio DJs cannot host the National Day Parade, which is broadcast by MediaCorp) when most people wouldn't even treat them as separate companies because both are controlled by the state.
@vaporchild1821
@vaporchild1821 2 ай бұрын
well-put. don't forget the infamous IMDA (infocomm media development authority; essentially the government media censors) which have policies in place that disallow favourable portrayals of LGBTQ+ people in local media and who read through theatre scripts before they reach production to make sure they don't contain inflammatory material -- alfian sa'at has a great play out about IMDA censorship singapore theatre going on right now.
@duniaghaibku
@duniaghaibku 2 ай бұрын
tw: sexual assault i'm a singaporean citizen, and the story abt harvey reminded me of my own sexual assault case. when i approached the police, they at first turned me away. they didnt want to entertain my report. but i kept coming and coming, adamant about reporting my perpetrator. when i reported it, i was basically asked really victim blamey questions, like what i was wearing, how did i found myself in that situation, etc. the actual investigation process stretched out for nearly two years, and when i had to testify in court, i was retraumatised again by the judicial system while trying to testify my story against my abuser. in general, sexual assault is really not taken seriously in sg. on the surface sg seems safe, but hell for women and minorities.
@pingdragonify
@pingdragonify 2 ай бұрын
Not down playing your SA. But if you think it is "hell for women and minorities" in Singapore, may i know which country would you ever feel safe? Also, Singapore has recently convicted a few false SA accusers for trying to destroying their former partner's lives. Hence, there is more caution in their investigations whenever a SA case is reported. That said, "what you were wearing" and "how did u found yourself in that situation" are pretty valid questions to ask, no? You can't expect the police to solve the case if you refuse to answers questions the event that you specifically come to the police station to report.
@PurpleNoir
@PurpleNoir 2 ай бұрын
@@pingdragonify That’s not okay though. The question “what are you wearing?” doesn’t matter, it’s shifting blame of the horrendous crime to the victim, that’s not an appropriate question. It also implies that it’s her fault a man SA’d her 🤨 Men are NOT rabid, wild dogs with no self control, it’s not hard to keep your hands to yourself. In her account , the police weren’t taking her seriously and ignored her repeated attempts to report it. She should be afforded the same courtesy that every citizen has, the police sound corrupt and uncaring here. Just because a couple people have lied about SA doesn’t mean the authorities should just automatically assume she’s lying for money and/or attention, that’s basically stereotyping ALL victims.
@duniaghaibku
@duniaghaibku 2 ай бұрын
@@pingdragonifythanks for saying “not trying to downplay my SA” while effectively downplaying my experience. no one should ever come to you for support because of your devils advocate personality u got going. why don’t you put urself in my shoes for a second: if you fell down, let’s say, and your knees bled. someone knocked you over and you got injured. you go to the doctor, someone who you would trust will help you through your injury. and instead of immediately helping to treat you, the first thing they decide is to ask you: what did you do to make your knees bleed? what did you do to make this person knock you over? would you feel taken care of? would you feel safe in that moment, if your knees continued to bleed and the doctor is only asking you questions and dismissing your injury? as for my comment abt singapore being hell - i still stand by that, because you clearly have never experienced discomfort in ur own home country. women in singapore are harassed and assaulted constantly. just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. as a matter of fact you denying this reality for me is literally contributing to the problem. our cases are always dismissed, made fun of, we are manipulated and gaslighted into singapore’s safety that women do not want to speak up about it. obviously there are worse places to be in i don’t deny that but understand that this is a reality we go through. you are clearly an insensitive and entitled person and i hope you think twice before speaking if someone is sharing their own experience on something as serious as sexual assault. i was a minor when my abuser did it and still the police dismissed me. a minor. a child. do i need to pull up my police statement for you to believe me? do i need to give you my clothes, show you my abusers track record of horrendous crimes and abuse? what will qualify my experience for you valid? please let me know.
@pingdragonify
@pingdragonify 2 ай бұрын
​​@@duniaghaibkuYour analogy makes 0 sense. A doctor has 100% valid reason to ask you where you got your injury. I fell down Vs I got bitten by a dog. Fine, let's say the police are in the wrong here. How would you have approached the victim to get information from the SA they are reporting? How will you question them knowing that false SA accusations is also a possibility? We literally have a 12 year old falsely accusing his father of SA here in a recent case. There are also 3 cases on the top of my head where the women were convicted for lying to court about their false accusations of SA. You are a strong person that managed to follow through with your case, make no mistake, but the police and the courts needs as much information as possible to help you. A plain accusation without proof or evidence is not enough to convict. That said you did go to court in 2 years after reporting the incident, which is pretty fast. If the police were dismissive to your case, would you think that you saw justice in 2 years? Also, no my question wasn't if you think Singapore is a safe place (u already made up your mind). My question is which country on earth would you feel safe in if you think Singapore is hell on earth?
@pingdragonify
@pingdragonify 2 ай бұрын
​@@PurpleNoirthe investigation was closed after 2 years with the culprit getting convicted. As someone with friends with a former IO, that is very fast especially for a SA case. If the police were indeed corrupt or uncaring she wouldn't have seen justice and her abuser would be walking free right now. That was the whole point, the question posed by the police helped her case. The only failings I see here is that the police were cold and tactless in their questioning of the victim.
@SiriProject
@SiriProject 2 ай бұрын
"Singapore is Disneyland with the Death Penalty" - William Gibson
@SirBojo4
@SirBojo4 2 ай бұрын
Majestic fucking quote!
@chrisyeong
@chrisyeong 2 ай бұрын
That's the best you got?
@Tungku66
@Tungku66 2 ай бұрын
America is a big Luna hospital with guns!
@praisethelegendarymessiahs2617
@praisethelegendarymessiahs2617 2 ай бұрын
America has disneyland Singapore does not. US also have the death penalty.
@zodoplanet
@zodoplanet 2 ай бұрын
Disney is a multinational corporation that was started by fascists
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, the whole Singapore trip my family and I went to was based around “So clean, so safe, no chewing gum” And then I saw the non-affluent South Asians so I knew what was up.
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
Right, also as a singaporean holy shit the elitism is crazy, also racism. Its more implicit that goes into explicit, esp towards minorities who are non chinese or east asian or like even white western like eg, south east asian, south asian etc. Im south east asian and burmese at that so its like equally jarring cuz a lot of south asians and south east asians lead similar lives esp if they immigrated recently as labourers. My parents immigrated to sg pretty early so im fortunate enough to live a good life as a PR to naturalised citizen since i was born here but yeah the income disparity, elitism, and racism, and also exploitation of workers and justice system regarding foreigners suck. Like eg my parents cant get a divorce in sg since they werent married on sg soil so a lot of crimes that are commited against foreigners and even by foreigners wont be dealt with, esp if its against one another so foreigners or stuff like exploitation so if the foreigners are very very screwed since if they came from a bad bg they cannot get stuff done mostly since again, they cant go back, also recently a drag queen got beat up and the comments of the article posted to mainstream sg news is so scary but luckily our drag and queer and ballroom community are tight knit. Singapore had awesome infrastructure, good education, and great sights and cool people, but it also has systemic issues like everywhere else and MUST be addressed.
@sieteocho
@sieteocho 2 ай бұрын
@@espeon871 I'm not really sure what the point of this video is. The things that Singapore does better than other places are its selling points. The problems that Singapore has - elitism / racism / cost of living are problems that also exist everywhere else. Migrant workers have a tough life but they'd have a tough life elsewhere too ie in Malaysia etc. If you were Burmese and living in Burma, you might have spent the last few years fighting a war. Singapore has real problems and does not hide away from the real problems that confront itself and the region. It actually conducts a conference and encourages the US and China to sit down and talk. What is the stunning discovery that was unearthed by this video?
@constantinethecataphract5949
@constantinethecataphract5949 2 ай бұрын
​@@espeon871 You are not entitled to other people's land. They clearly don't like you so why do you try to force yourself in their spaces like a psychopath?
@Klock_Calle
@Klock_Calle 2 ай бұрын
Yeah i been there with my family can’t spit on the streets can’t spit shewing gum and it’s so nice and safe
@Ruruisinane
@Ruruisinane 2 ай бұрын
​@@sieteocho Some people think SG is a utopia and this video is geared towards them. If you already think that SG is not perfect than why are you even watching? Also its just dishonest to say SG confronts its problems. If it did, those problems would have been solved years ago because most of them have been around for decades. You're one of those SGeans who don't know how to check their privilege and it shows.
@pranavjulakanti7027
@pranavjulakanti7027 2 ай бұрын
If anyone wants to learn more about Singapore's history, the graphic novel "The Art of Charlie Chan Hock Chye" is a fascinating read.
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@bmno.4565
@bmno.4565 2 ай бұрын
It's not that great, the author was a Malaysian Chinese who has a chip on his shoulder. Paints the 'Chinese educated Chinese' as the biggest victims in Singapore when what they went through is nothing compared to what Minorities go through.
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 2 ай бұрын
​@@bmno.4565 Did the minority Malay experienced race riots in Singapore ?
@bmno.4565
@bmno.4565 2 ай бұрын
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Yes, not that it's relevant to this discussion, but both race riots in SG involved Chinese and Malays.
@NickWheelon
@NickWheelon 2 ай бұрын
@@teddiespicker It was never banned.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
As someone who’s thinking of moving abroad, it’s a futile exercise because dealing with bigotry is a universal experience. Also, I’m constantly thinking about brain drain.
@sahasraillindra
@sahasraillindra 2 ай бұрын
I see you everywhere
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
@@sahasraillindra Hello! Nice to meet you!
@tikimillie
@tikimillie 2 ай бұрын
Move abroad from where? Bigotry might be a universal thing, but there are places that are better than others. I’d like to believe my home country is pretty good.
@PeoplepersonOG
@PeoplepersonOG 2 ай бұрын
@@tikimilliewhat’s your home country?
@tikimillie
@tikimillie 2 ай бұрын
@@PeoplepersonOG not about to dox myself but its in northern europe Its cold as shit
@val8814
@val8814 2 ай бұрын
crazy how if an actual singaporean was the one who make this video they will definitely get in trouble 😭😭
@PrograError
@PrograError 2 ай бұрын
well... according to the government as long as everything is factual you'd be safe from POFMA...
@TPDTND
@TPDTND 2 ай бұрын
As they should. This coward can make all the hate he wants thousands of miles away
@rohanxdavis
@rohanxdavis 2 ай бұрын
Singapore and Dubai have alot of parallels. When I lived in Dubai, one of my close friends was Singaporean Tamil and Kashmiri muslim. He served in NS in the undercover department as well and would tell me about the blatant racism he'd face from the ethnic chinese majority for his dark skin within the force. I was speaking with my wife just the other day about the "maids" situations in both Singapore and Dubai. Alot of our friends had live-in maids and we always wondered how their own kids were faring. It was one of the long list of things i never accepted about Dubai.
@AnthemUnanthemed
@AnthemUnanthemed 2 ай бұрын
hey I dont live in dubai but my mom grew up in apartheid south africa and brought that mentality when highering for the woman that raised me, I no longer speak to my parents, it nauseates me how they treated and thought about people, and due to that mentality child abuse for them became a lot easier, so it also gave me quite a bit of PTSD, remember if the culture acts like that, the whole idea of personhood gets denigrated and kids become pets, and people mistreat their pets all the dam time
@SivalinPuthery
@SivalinPuthery 2 ай бұрын
So, what is so different from being discriminated in your so-called civilized western countries? Don't they have casual racism against minorities there too? And to take it to another level up, aren't there physical hate crimes blatantly committed against asians in the US?
@ImSkyblu
@ImSkyblu 2 ай бұрын
@@AnthemUnanthemed really happy for you recognizing this humanity that others were blatantly overlooking in front of you :) sorry to hear about the challenges you face due to that upbringing. But hope you find some happiness and peace in knowing your kindness towards others✌🏼
@ImSkyblu
@ImSkyblu 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope to find more resources on the Dubai issues as well! I thought about the labor force struggles and discrimination of Dubai a lot when watching this video. Seems the two small countries have ended up in pretty parallel situations despite being across the world. I know many countries have these struggles passed down especially from colonialism. But seems these smaller wealthy countries are able to be pretty blatant a with classism, racism and exploitation of different groups.
@fartbawls
@fartbawls 2 ай бұрын
yepppp sgreans (esp teens) display blatant racism with no shame since they’re very exposed to socmed and don’t face the consequences they should be since there’s really no one around to educate them. Casual racism is so common here.
@ZarquonZ
@ZarquonZ 2 ай бұрын
As a Singaporean, I genuinely do think that while some of the points you made are good, you are brushing over a lot of rather important aspects of Singapore's development. Specifically, I feel like it's very 'hindsight-judgment', like, gazing upon Singapore being so 'successful' now and going, "Eh, LKY wasn't THAT important". But really, forty, thirty, twenty, years ago? Singapore was very different. Singapore was much poorer. It did take a lot of work for Singapore to become what it is today. I do sincerely believe that many of our harsher policies were necessary. Anyway, yea, I disagree with what I consider to be a view that can only be taken BECAUSE Singapore is successful, and not BEFORE Singapore was successful, but I still wholly approve of you making this video and casting a light on the flaws of Singapore.
@lucyfiniarel2347
@lucyfiniarel2347 2 ай бұрын
Yeah. I think he did the impossible.
@constantinethecataphract5949
@constantinethecataphract5949 2 ай бұрын
Putting mentally deranged people who think that injecting hormones and Putting on a dress makes them a woman (and the other way around for ftm) isn't a flaw. It's actually a good thing. His counter argument about the inherent inequality of humans is straight up garbage. The only thing that might be a flaw is the migration situation. I agree it's a problem there shouldn't be any migrants at all, they are clearly a tool of the elite and should not be exploited. The way to do that is with repatriation and a tighter grip on business and closed borders. Singapore did fine without them. At best they can have like a "we only allow Chinese and east asians in" migration policy. Overall the video is mid to bad.
@Bell_plejdo568p
@Bell_plejdo568p 2 ай бұрын
Sigipore is controlled by global captial
@nicolebaggers7598
@nicolebaggers7598 2 ай бұрын
This is the most polite disagreeing comment I have stumbled upon on the internet. Kudos to you for being a stellar example of civil discussion 👏
@tennoki
@tennoki 2 ай бұрын
​@found13 From a moral standpoint, no. But it's really a question we only had the capacity to ask after being successful It's really easy to forget that even with favourable geography, Singapore wasn't guaranteed to have its success. "At what cost?" sounds deeply philosophical until you realise the turmoil and suffering a nation stuck in a vicious cycle can go through Over the decades, many countries resort to a charismatic authoritarian that promises to solve everything. Why? There's many things I'd like Singapore to reform, but I understand at least why the older generation was willing to make that tradeoff
@cloudpiercer7026
@cloudpiercer7026 2 ай бұрын
hey, i stumbled upon this video as a singaporean. i already knew around 60% of what you covered, but the 40% i didnt know was really eye-opening to me. especially operation high tide. thank you elliot, ori and carissa for this video ❤
@cloudpiercer7026
@cloudpiercer7026 2 ай бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 nope i'm still here. but a lot of what was covered isn't featured on mainstream or other forms of accessible media. definitely going to try and find more platforms where these things are discussed!
@cloudpiercer7026
@cloudpiercer7026 2 ай бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 i'm still a student. but if there's a chance i can work or study overseas, i'd love the opportunity :)
@cloudpiercer7026
@cloudpiercer7026 2 ай бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 the standard of living is high in singapore, all things considered. so i still consider myself very fortunate to be living where i am. i hope things get better for you :)
@cloudpiercer7026
@cloudpiercer7026 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@thotslayer9914😳 of course singapore has its flaws. glaring flaws. its honestly sickening to see some of the news and how certain groups of people are being treated here. all i’m saying is i recognize that my life has been very, very fortunate compared to other people. but i’ll always be fighting for better treatment of marginalized groups and for various systems to be changed. my country has been good to me, and i will strive to ensure it can be as good to others.
@TPDTND
@TPDTND 2 ай бұрын
​@@cloudpiercer7026it needs those "flaws" to function well. we will double down on our bigotry and paranoia and become north korean
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
NOT ANTHONY BOURDAIN GAGGING GUESTS WITH THE BOURGEOIS CALL OUT
@edwardzita3479
@edwardzita3479 2 ай бұрын
That was funny AF lmfao
@ivoryas1696
@ivoryas1696 2 ай бұрын
@PokhrajRoy Honestly. He _said_ he was kidding, but he was _just _*_mostly_* kidding... -right?-
@WinterAyars
@WinterAyars Ай бұрын
@@ivoryas1696 He was definitely not kidding.
@notreallyici
@notreallyici Ай бұрын
Ok but the scowls on their faceeee - sent me 💀
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын
Bourdain projecting harder than a movie theater? Very common
@pikaplayx6064
@pikaplayx6064 2 ай бұрын
Well as someone that grew up in Singapore. I can definitely say that we are not oblivious to the problems. If there’s ever a country known for gossips and spreading of news is Singapore. The main issue isn’t solely the government, is also Singaporeans and I’m saying this as a Singaporean. We see the issues and the flaws in the system. However, majority of the nation just doesn’t care. As long as the government is taking care of 80% of the country needs, most citizens don’t care. We do voice out injustice through social media but then immediately go on with our day because all these issues don’t affect the average day Singaporean. Most of us are sympathetic but not empathetic in other words. Is Singaporean being like this the government fault, not really. I would say is the many generations before us aka our parents and our parents’ parents passing down the “Don’t kaypoh” (don’t bother with other people’s problems) mentality. Ba Sing Se maybe brainwashed but in Singapore we are taught to read between the lines, compare sources and to be critical or what we read or learn (Is a subject we learn in secondary school, social studies). We aren’t gullible pawns of the government, but we frankly speaking don’t want to actively make changes either because “their” problem isn’t “my” problem mentality. Which is perfect for what you would call a dictatorship. Of course if the problem effects us, we do voice it out and 9 times out of 10, if the problem effects majority of Singaporean it will be fix. The silencing of the minority isn’t done by the government, is more of other Singaporean inaction of pushing this issue to the government, because is not and immediate issue to us. Example of singaporean voicing out issues is the political issues ex transport minister S. Iswaran. If it effects us we care, if it doesn’t directly effect us we care but not enough to argue for it. This video is great, but is very one sided and biased. Which I believe is the intent, trying to show Singapore’s issues. These are problems that should be fixed and can be fixed if more Singaporean speaks up. (I’m also not saying that Singaporeans don’t want this issues to be fixed, we do but not everyone wants to actively take part in fixing it. Is like a case of oh dang someone littered on the ground, I pick up the trash and help dispose of it properly but nah) but nonetheless the video serves it purpose and serves it well. To educate those outside of Singapore that Singapore is not all rainbows and sunshine. Like every other country in the world is not prefect, is just better than most others. And also feel free to argue and share opinions, what I say is not true for everyone, that’s what I was taught in social studies, to critique and think for myself, so should you.
@PrograError
@PrograError 2 ай бұрын
well... let's see if this new generation of PAP will survive... this is basically the first generation without the Pioneer Generation in the politics (LKY and GCT announced their retirement almost 10 years ago, pre COVID) to essentially hand hold them to success... As GE result goes, the popular vote for PAP is going down as a general trend, outside of factors like COVID and the passing of LKY. Much to see if the Opposition can become more developed and more successful, but not becoming like the American politics or western politics in general...
@meownezz
@meownezz Ай бұрын
Was wondering how far I have to scroll down before I find a comment like this. This video is actually proof that Singapore as a country is doing well. Struggling neighbors in SEA don't have the luxury to complain about the "inequalities and injustices" covered here. I'm a public school teacher more than half of my teen students would trade a limb to be able to live in a country where 80% of their needs are well taken care of so long as they bear the daily grind. Hahahhahahahahhahaha!!! 😈 Oh. And Basing Sei didn't have the back story of being dirt poor, who, in less than a century, clawed its way up to become the great power it is.
@DrCruel
@DrCruel Ай бұрын
@@meownezz The problem with Singapore isn't crime or poverty. It's that it makes Left fascists look bad.
@jordanwhite8718
@jordanwhite8718 Ай бұрын
So basically it’s a lot like the US. 80% of your needs are met so most people just don’t complain. We’re all pretty aware of a lot of the problems going on in the US but if it doesn’t directly affect a lot of people, nobody will care. We just have a lot more school shootings than Singapore does.
@bakkei444
@bakkei444 Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@meownezzas a filipino-chinese raised in singapore, i can 100% confirm this. considering how much messier the political climate is in the philippines, many filipinos would prefer to live literally anywhere else in the world, and that includes singapore.
@DustyMusician
@DustyMusician 2 ай бұрын
Had a friend who wouldn't shut up about moving to Singapore wondering if they were an example of a "good" dictatorship 👍
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike 2 ай бұрын
It's always a good dictatorship when people can envision themselves on the side of the dictator and not as one of the victims. You'd think adults would have more self awareness, but apparently it's pretty rare.
@socialist-strong
@socialist-strong 2 ай бұрын
@@IshtarNikeremember those adults may have grown up under the « dictatorship » of authoritarian parents and/or teachers, which may have normalized such things for them.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 2 ай бұрын
LKY had some dictatorial traits. But he was a well-meaning man, and I personally believe he did every second what he was convinced to be good for Singapore. If you did not notice yet, what is now is much softened already. I can not call it a dictatorship, it is what is called a strict democracy.
@DustyMusician
@DustyMusician 2 ай бұрын
@@krollpeter I'm not even gonna argue with you lil bro. "Strict democracy" is crazy. Ngl tho I love the creativity
@sirerbse
@sirerbse 2 ай бұрын
​@@krollpeterreplace LKY with Hitler and Singapore with Germany and your comment would still be true, yk. Also wtf is a strict democracy? Either people are free to vote and voice their opinions and have all that stuff (democracy) or they're not (no democracy). A more fitting name would be "dictatorship with very occasional elections"
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
As a singaporean- dude, damn yeah. However we do have a good bds movement and a lot of underground activist circles and activity circles also, the most disheartening thing abt being from sg is how mainstream it is for people to have weird implicit biases abt minorities, also weird elitism and people treating foreign workers like maids like indentured servants. Esp as someone who a singaporean by birth but parents migrated here. Also foreign workers are exploited and treated like shit only for some losers to go and talk smack abt the foreign workers who took the jobs, and lower wage levels and higher work times, that no one wanted or is persuaded to do and become, only to be blamed for a lack of domestic manpower when the system incentivises white collar jobs and makes everyone since day one aim for it exclusively even with exclusive jc and uni affiliated sec schools. If ure a labourer in singapore ure seen in a very low light since ure seen as uneducated or cannot make it. Which sucks. All workers in sg deserve better treatment, esp foreign workers and blue collar workers, like live in maids.
@teddiespicker
@teddiespicker 2 ай бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 I'm a singaporean who's been planning to move overseas during my college/uni years, but to be frank, it's not really that good because singapore has an amazing infrastructure. societal problems aside, there is merit when people say that singapore is good because the healthcare system here is amazing, their subsidies aren't as amazing but still offer the citizens an alternative to being in debt,, the public transport is very well funded and thus covers a good major chunk of our country, and the education system is probably one of the best (and stressful) of asia major as a whole. So I can see why another singaporean who carries the same dislike and distaste in the government as me but does not have the safety net of being from the upper middle class (which I admit I have) would choose to stay here. it's already pretty good here in comparison to another country like the US, which is well known for it's overly privatised healthcare system putting people into debt and lack of regulation in country-wide and even state-wide education.
@markd.9042
@markd.9042 2 ай бұрын
It's interesting that there are cool underground movements there! Hoping they score some victories!
@kv9016
@kv9016 2 ай бұрын
"implicit biases" happen to every race, and also happen everywhere in the world. You must be pretty naive if you think some country is 100% free from this. Goes to show you probably never traveled the world. Also, proof that society "treats foreign workers like maids like indentured servants" is a bold and exaggerated claim from someone who knows nothing. 🤣
@TPDTND
@TPDTND 2 ай бұрын
​​@@markd.9042they can score being detained without trial😂. No one will escape in such a small island
@markd.9042
@markd.9042 2 ай бұрын
@@TPDTND 💀
@HiroZephyrr
@HiroZephyrr 2 ай бұрын
Bourdain was NOT joking at 17:10 😂😂 informative and excellent video as always man
@notarabbit1752
@notarabbit1752 2 ай бұрын
lol he definitely just noticed he pushed it a little too far and was freaking them out when he said communist stuff
@ahn0x
@ahn0x 2 ай бұрын
Bourdain was a real one. RIP
@syncswim
@syncswim 2 ай бұрын
@@notarabbit1752 The icy silence after said that was hilarious and authentic because talking communism is one way to get in big big trouble in most SEA countries to this day
@f.n.8540
@f.n.8540 2 ай бұрын
he went off on a crazy tangent, obviously people just laugh it off. i wouldn't even have heard half of it
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 2 ай бұрын
​@@syncswim Mainly in Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia .
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Ай бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that many people's positive perception of Singapore is when they are welcomed to the country through Changi International Airport, consistently ranked the world's best airport for features like the Jewel. This also doesn't mention how the government has tried to stamp out southern Chinese varieties and Singlish from being spoken in the past. A great example of the rivalry between Malaysia and Singapore is Singapore's Rail Corridor, a 26 km long right-of-way that used to have trains to Malaysia that's now a trail. There used to be six times daily intercity services between Tanjong Pagar and Kuala Lumpur, with Bukit Timah station as an additional Singapore station, but service was truncated to Woodlands Checkpoint as a shuttle between it and Johor Bahru (replaced by a rapid transit link in 2026). Under the Railway Act 1918, the land that made up the railway was given to the Federated Malay States government from the Straits Settlements for a period of 999 years. So basically, even after Singapore was kicked out of Malaysia in 1965, this land would still be owned by the Malaysian government. Singapore wanted the land returned to them. Singapore moved their immigration/customs from Tanjong Pagar to Woodlands in 1998, but Malaysia insisted on keeping theirs at Tanjong Pagar. In other words, people were granted entry into Malaysia before clearing Singaporean immigration, which made no sense. To circumvent the problem, Malaysian officers didn't stamp the passports, but by doing this...Singaporeans were arrested in Malaysia because they weren't stamped, thus bringing to light the issue of Malaysia keeping their customs/immigration at Tanjong Pagar. Malaysia and Singapore finally agreed to scrap the Railway Act at a leaders' retreat in 2010 (they first did so in 1990, but there was a deadlock), where Malaysia was allowed to remain at Woodlands Train Checkpoint while the rest of the line would be truncated and become a rail trail. Bukit Timah station remains conserved, while Tanjong Pagar station is preserved.
@sailorpsyop
@sailorpsyop 2 ай бұрын
this reminded me of a critique i read a long time ago on how though _crazy rich asians_ is praised as a win for representation, it comes at the expense of the erasure of asian minorities in singapore. i didn't know anything about the country when i watched the movie, -- and of course i didn't see it as some sort of comprehensive education on the place -- but with my lack of understanding on class division in other parts of the world at the time of me watching it and my general lack of general inquisitiveness for some narratives i’d absorbed in my day-to-day life (especially in some media), had i not read that piece i wouldn't have thought that deeply about the movie's exclusion of the working class in order to tell its story and what effect that has on real people's perception of singapore. coming across that critique really opened my eyes to how it's so easy and subtle to influence people's understanding of other places and invisibilize marginalized classes, and helped me realize how important it is to always be challenging my own thinking. this topic/video also made me think about how you'll hear some (u.s. american) people laud canada as "better" than the u.s., but that comes at the expense of, for instance, invisibilizing its subjugation of first nations people; how nyc has a rep, especially online, as being a place only the ultra rich and influencer types can afford to live in, and this erases the existence of the many working class people who live here (there's a really good tiktok by @c.a.i.t.l.y.n that talks about this). it's just so interesting to think about how much visibility and lack thereof -- through interpersonal discourse, in movies, on social media, from the showboating mouths of politicians -- not only obscures reality but, in popular imagination, _creates_ it. all this to say, this topic/video was just a good reminder to be critical, to question the most dominant narratives, and to hold space for the fact that there are always people who are being oppressed. just because we can't always "see it" doesn’t mean they don't exist, and it's important to prioritize trying to give them that visibility, even if it's just to improve our own personal understanding. but yeah great video! and so much respect and appreciation to ori and carissa for sharing their knowledge and time.
@sasentaiko
@sasentaiko 2 ай бұрын
As a South Asian who cried watching CRA because I could relate to the family dynamics so much, I also had to cry during the one moment of screen time that South Asian Singaporeans got-when Awkwafina’s character freaks out at the mansion’s security guards. On further reflection, I realized that the scene had the potential to critique the society of Chinese Singaporeans, because it was making fun of the overblown racist reaction. I felt so conflicted. On one hand, the movie and book are exactly what they say on the tin, focusing on the “crazy rich” folks. Honesty is better than depicting lies about how minorities are treated. On the other hand, the wildly xenophobic action is just laughed off, and no one treats her like a terrifying bigot or even asks her to change. It’s messy.
@HoneybeeAwning
@HoneybeeAwning Ай бұрын
this topic/video also made me think about how you'll hear some (u.s. american) people laud canada as "better" than the u.s., but that comes at the expense of, for instance, invisibilizing its subjugation of first nations people; Well the US not only invisibilise First Nations it also has crappy everything else so yeah objectively Canada is better than the US.
@emilythefairy1
@emilythefairy1 2 ай бұрын
Quote of the day "imperial Japan, so many war crimes ya know, but Hello kitty does slap though" 😂
@TPDTND
@TPDTND 2 ай бұрын
they utterly lost due to an famous american warcrime (hypocrites) what more do you want from broken japanese people
@snoot6629
@snoot6629 Ай бұрын
@@TPDTND we can never criticize the poor japanese people - dont look up the rising imperial japanese "cult" uprising there
@insertnamehere1398
@insertnamehere1398 Ай бұрын
.. atleast japan is there for the girls nd they gays eheheeh
@AnneLives81
@AnneLives81 2 ай бұрын
Also, "but Hello Kitty slaps" 😂
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 2 ай бұрын
Yeewww... As if there's no Chinese fictional characters to choose from .
@nicholasas7786
@nicholasas7786 2 ай бұрын
Hello kitty is Taiwanese no?
@Soyapudding
@Soyapudding 2 ай бұрын
@@nicholasas7786 The character Hello Kitty is created in Japan but she is British and was Born in London
@yayeet6753
@yayeet6753 2 ай бұрын
just to add that Malaysia as a political project was, and still is, fraught with severe discriminatory practices against minorities, enshrined in the constitution, so... there is nuance with Singapore's ouster from the formation of the Malaysian state
@BlackLotusVisualArchive
@BlackLotusVisualArchive 2 ай бұрын
That's the point. The leftists that helped built up Singapore, knew Lee Kuan Yew's plans to join Malaysia would fail
@fredrickcampbell8198
@fredrickcampbell8198 2 ай бұрын
Just a clarification of the timeline for those that don't know about the history of the region. At least, the part of the history that is probably relevant. As such, I'll start from when the first part of what is now Malaysia gained independence in 1957. 1957 Malaya gains independence. Malaya is what is now modern day West Malaysia. Note that this does not include Singapore, which was broken off from the Straits Settlement when the rest of the Straits Settlement was merged with Malaya so that the British get to keep a colony there. 1963 after a whole lot of things happened in the past three years, (it's a lot, but it doesn't involve exchange of territory so I'm leaving it out) Malaysia was formed by the merger of all of the British part of Borneo with the exception of Brunei (what is now East Malaysia) and Singapore. (what is now still Singapore) The Sultan of Brunei decided not to join in the formation of Malaysia and will remain a British colony for the next few decades. Yes, decades without exaggeration. 1965 Singapore was ousted from Malaysia as a temporary measure due to a matter I'm not too sure of. It may have had to do with Lee Kuan Yew's party joining elections outside Singapore. It may have been something else altogether. Present The temporary measure has long been forgotten by the mass populace to be a temporary measure.
@fangjiunnewe3634
@fangjiunnewe3634 2 ай бұрын
Oh no, the reason was race riots, and it was not temporary. When Malaya was granted independence in 1957, the Malay majority were allowed a provision in the constitution to enact "privileges" for Malays and aboriginals over other races. Singapore was petitioned to join Malaysia for historical cultural ties, and finally joined in 1963, but had problems with the Malay Supremacy clause due to its Chinese majority population. Race riots broke out, and Singapore was ejected due to irreconcilable differences, the divorce of the century. (Malaysia would break out its own race riots at the end of the decade for the same reasons.)
@fredrickcampbell8198
@fredrickcampbell8198 2 ай бұрын
@@fangjiunnewe3634 From what I know, both leaders at the time considered reuniting the newly split countries sometime in the future, but it never happened.
@fangjiunnewe3634
@fangjiunnewe3634 2 ай бұрын
@@fredrickcampbell8198 I don't recall that at all, and being a Malaysian who went to school in Singapore, that's something that at least one side would have made a lot of hay out of. Look up the Albatross Files btw which was recently declassified (10 years ago) which detailed how both sides already came to agree that a split was necessary and secret negotiations took place before the "tearful televised explosion announcement by LKY". They were pretty clearheaded on the futility of the union.
@omicroncetiiii2665
@omicroncetiiii2665 2 ай бұрын
Some other problems of singapore include: 1. That one time in 2021 when a trans student named ash Lee was forbidden from socially transitioning despite (not allowed to use female bathroom and low-key forbade from going to school). When people brought it up it turned out that the school policy is to our students to their parents (though anecdotally not all teachers follow this rule). 2. When a couple of people protested the treatment of Harvey and operation high tide at pink dot 2023 (Singapore pride) pink dot shut them down and released a statement that implied that they were homophobic, which is very in line with you “there is no war in Singapore “ thesis. 3. In April 2022 the state executed a severely mentally disabled man for being a drug mule. 4. The ministry of education recently forced schools to do a presentation on the situation in Gaza and spread the misinformation that Hamas did not recognise Israel and wanted it gone. Excellent video. Thanks for shedding light on the situation. Side note: One of the Singaporean churches (Church of our saviour specifically) mentioned in the operation high tide thing once tried to infiltrate the biggest local woman’s rights organisation (luckily they failed) to make it more homophobic and used to run pray the away conversion therapy (though they always denied that what they did constituted conversion therapy).
@abrownmuffoin3543
@abrownmuffoin3543 2 ай бұрын
beauracracy
@monalizzy
@monalizzy 2 ай бұрын
Re: 4, well yes it's an illegal entity, an occupier, a gen 0 cider. Which is why we say from the rvr to the seeaaa, falasteeeeen will be free, free free.
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
Yep, thats very unfortunate, also shows how messed up biases and systemic injustice in sg is, luckily, we have a lot of underground and strong activist circles in sg that are actively uncovering this and reporting and protesting against it. So its not that singaporeans dont care, people care but not enough care, its changing but the government and people on top need to care as much and want to change but since sg is a country thats very nationalistic too like their citizens, pr and foreigners get like diff brackets, and also capitalistic, im not so sure abt the change. However on a positive note, on of our ex presidents are very vocal abt palestinian liberation. Sg is gorgeous with great people and nature and sights and transport, so i want it to be better for all not just selected people who happen to have the privilege to go on with life here w/o visible or active oppression. Thus, we need to address and talk abt the systemic issues.
@Joel-kw7jf
@Joel-kw7jf 2 ай бұрын
Nagaenthran K. Dharmalingam was not mentally disabled. His own psychiatrist testified in court that he was not mentally disabled. Can you radical leftists leave Singapore alone. We don't like extremists on both the left and right, you guys are always unobjective and too biased to form reasonable opinions on how society should function.
@SivalinPuthery
@SivalinPuthery 2 ай бұрын
"severely mentally disabled man for being a drug mule" Can you guys check facts first? This person is not a mentally disabled person, otherwise how would he even know how to cross the Singapore-Malaysia borders on so many occasions
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican Ай бұрын
There's more to the Singapore in Malaysia part than that. Lee Kuan Yew's party People's Action Party believed that Singapore's future lay with Malaya because they believed that reuniting with Malaya would benefit the economy by creating a common market, alleviating unemployment woes. But the communist wing of PAP was against this, and so they split off and formed the Barisan Sosialis party in 1961 (which later merged with the Workers' Party in 1988). In 1956, Lee supported a purge by the Labour Front of suspected "leftists" in the aftermath of the Chinese middle school riots, with arrests including his PAP rival Lim Chin Siong (in 1963, Lee launched Operation Coldstore to round more communists up). The ruling party of Malaya, the United Malays National Organisation or UMNO, was staunchly anti-communist and while initially skeptical of merger due to distrust of PAP and concern that the Chinese Singaporean population would alter the racial balance in Malaya on which their political power base depended, became supportive due to fear of communism. UMNO supports Malays being granted special rights, while Lee Kuan Yew coined the term "Malaysian Malaysia" for his stance of a Malaysia for everyone, distinguishing nationality from ethnicity. When the federation was proposed in 1961, UMNO leaders believed that the additional Malay population in the Bornean territories would balance Singapore's Chinese population. Indonesian president Sukarno however opposed Malaysia's formation and launched Konfrontasi. In March 1965, a bomb planted by Indonesians at Singapore's MacDonald House exploded, killing three people and injuring 33 others. Even after the merger, the Singaporean government and the Malaysian central government disagreed on many political and economic issues. Despite an agreement to establish a common market, Singapore continued to face restrictions when trading with the rest of Malaysia. In retaliation, Singapore did not extend to Sabah and Sarawak the full extent of the loans agreed to for economic development of the two eastern states. Talks soon broke down, and abusive speeches and writing became rife on both sides. This led to the 1964 race riots you mentioned, and thus seeing no alternative to the intense situation, Malaysian parliament voted for Singapore to be expelled in August 1965.
@gemsngold
@gemsngold 2 ай бұрын
singaporean here. the thing is a lot of us know that singapore has a very dark underlying history and there are a lot of things wrong with it. but majority of people don’t want to fix. their mindset is as long as it doesn’t affect them they don’t care. this is an engrained and conditioned kinda mindset from generations and generations ago so is very hard to let go now. even as a youth i see other youth just perpetuating this no-care attitude and discriminatory behaviours. it makes me sad why are we as a people so selfish. if i could leave most likely i would. only good thing about this place is the public transport LOL
@Actar_Raikit
@Actar_Raikit 2 ай бұрын
As a Singaporean myself, I noticed that when Singaporeans are presented with arguments that go against their worldview, they become extremely defensive. Instead of engaging with the arguments and refuting them with logical rebuttals, the common emotionally charged refrain is "X is how things are done here. If you don't like X, no one's stopping you from leaving". Not only is that highly callous and dismissive (not taking into consideration that sometimes people just can't leave the country), it simply silences discourse. How is it that we can improve anything in Singapore if we keep accepting things for the way they are or telling people to leave if they don't like it here? There is this general attitude of defeatism and helplessness mixed together with this misplaced sense of gratitude and pride. Complaining = being ungrateful. This, I feel, engenders a very discouraging and toxic climate. It is an attitude that reinforces the dominant discourse, encourages conformity, and marginalizes minorities. Worst of all, it prevents change for the better as no one seems to want to even begin by acknowledging the flaws in our country, regardless of what they are. If we love our country, we should find ways of making it better together instead of coming up with reasons why it's already as good as it can get. I feel that the old adage of "pride comes before a fall" is extremely pertinent here. This, I feel, is one of the reasons many young Singaporeans feel like they don't have a stake in their own country. I just worry for our country, because many young Singaporeans, many who care, are indeed taking the advice and are leaving the country (at an alarming rate). Be careful what you wish for. Just had to get that off my chest, because I'm starting not to care too.
@DragonGirl48
@DragonGirl48 Ай бұрын
Singaporean in her mid 20s here, and i empathize with you! I personally know the kinds of people you were talking out, and then later complaining about the very things we have grievances for. They just don't want to put in the work, or are guilty they missed their chance and are too stubborn to pick stuff up now. But we mustn't give up hope. The key is finding people with the right mindset as you, and hopefully, those same people will give you a chance to share your voice in an avenue where you'll be heard. Honestly, even letting your thoughts be known publicly on social media is better than nothing. If we're being told by those weirdos to shut up and bear it, then the logical way forward is to keep making noise
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 ай бұрын
~8:00 "Coolie" is actually more neutral in India, it can be offensive in some contexts but is also still used as a job title for certain people, particularly people who transport luggage at train stations. It's a lot closer to being a slur in other countries where a lot of "coolie" laborers were imported, like South Africa and various Caribbean and Southeast Asian countries.
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 2 ай бұрын
in indonesia the word coolie / kuli itself isnt exactly offensive. it sounds offensive just like the word janitor, etc because the job is mostly done by low-class people.
@MoeKyorosuke
@MoeKyorosuke 2 ай бұрын
50:48 It would be amazing if you could talk about the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile. I'm Chilean, and today a lot of right-wing politicians and commentators are pushing the idea that Pinochet's rule was justified and beneficial. Eitherway, awesome video. Thanks for bringing awareness to issues of this sort.
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
That is insane omg, i also do hope to see more chilean focused videos like this
@bohoasa
@bohoasa 2 ай бұрын
same with the Trujillo Dictatorship and really how it paved way to 20th century dictatorships like Pinochet I know Elliot being from a Dominican background like myself would like to talk about it
@theircdplayer
@theircdplayer 2 ай бұрын
same with the philippines and ferdinand marcos's martial law during the 70s. it's mostly the masses who think that his rule was justified and beneficial as well.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын
@@bohoasa he tried to fix hispaniola stay mad bro
@Lukaarionite
@Lukaarionite 2 ай бұрын
SINGAPORE MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥
@TheOtherOne7isBlueMaid
@TheOtherOne7isBlueMaid 2 ай бұрын
Since you said we could comment about places we would like you to cover... could you talk about Haiti?
@elliotsangestevez
@elliotsangestevez 2 ай бұрын
on the list, will have a haiti vid by the end of summer ak espwa
@carolinecanihan8718
@carolinecanihan8718 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this!! Any country that has become very successful under capitalism has done so through extreme exploitation and inequality - so I always side-eyed Singapore but never looked into the history. Super informative! :) Also the people in the Anthony Bourdain clip made me sick to my stomach.
@april9242
@april9242 2 ай бұрын
whats happening in singapore is similar to whats happening in s.korea too, even down to the history... like you said it's all curse of capitalism
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
@@april9242 i think all major asian hubs of capitalism are similar just with some differences, they have a lot of cool and as much of uncool, and similar histories except maybe jp cuz jp did a lot of colonialism and kr did too for a bit, but it was also colonised.
@IntrusiveThot420
@IntrusiveThot420 Ай бұрын
I would go so far as to say every country that becomes successful economically does so via extreme exploitation and inequality, though such exploitation is not strictly necessary to achieve success (as in many highly productive areas of modern economies). It's less a function of economic system, and more a question of institutions and their inclusivity (mostly in terms of social mobility). I would highly recommend Why Nations Fail by Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson for a further look into a framework that looks at institutions more than specific economic systems. Probably the biggest change to my understanding of national success. Of course, I'm also a liberal, but I eagerly await the successor ideology to liberalism, and think socialism was insufficient and we have yet to see something better. In general, I think liberalism's adaptability let it absorb the most salient points of socialist critiques (labor rights, toxic effects of increasing inequality), and incorporate them into its own mixed market economies, while avoiding the pitfalls of authoritarianism that plague socialist reality across the world.
@Molly-iw1rc
@Molly-iw1rc 2 ай бұрын
My friend just did a study abroad in Singapore. She didn't really say much about it, but I assume she didn't have a bad time for the few months she stayed. I want to send this to her in case she has anything to add, I don't hear a lot about Singapore in my day to day life, so this is so interesting.
@freshboy3968
@freshboy3968 Ай бұрын
It is interesting. Me like the naturalistic parks with monitors and the big green towers of flora.
@ab76254
@ab76254 27 күн бұрын
I feel like with Lee Kuan Yew, it's important to keep in mind that he and his administration were exceptional in the context of others in his era. Singapore *did* achieve outstanding things compared to it's peers. Of course he made mistakes (there is no success without occasional failure), and had erroneous ideas, but it is what he and Singapore *were* able to do in spite of their mistakes that makes Lee Kuan Yew and Singapore so impressive. There are many countries who were similarly positioned as Singapore in the 60's, but only few were able to achieve something comparable to Singapore.
@tribalationtron2872
@tribalationtron2872 18 күн бұрын
agreed
@rebootmyth8753
@rebootmyth8753 2 ай бұрын
I think there's a lot of problem with building the Singapore story on cherry-picked examples. It is often said that if you want to find out what a man is, give him power - and by that metric Singapore could have done a lot worse than LKY.
@campfiresnlasguns
@campfiresnlasguns 2 ай бұрын
The Singapore Govt probably wont give you a citizenship after this, but I'd still buy you a kopi here if you visit as a tourist. Singapore is not a perfect utopia and much beauty foreigners see is thanks to our tourism board. In reality, despite relatively low crime rates and peaceful circumstances, Singapore is still a nation under construction. Now that there's gonna be a change in leadership, much remains to be seen and I'm excited (kind of).
@Redl1me_
@Redl1me_ 2 ай бұрын
Dude should've known "drinking/buying a Kopi with you" means the secret police coming up to your doorstep to take you away in SG
@campfiresnlasguns
@campfiresnlasguns 2 ай бұрын
@@Redl1me_ Yea and I'll be sure to violate the Geneva (Suggestions) and every other human rights convention, because Singapore is considered a western country.
@PrograError
@PrograError 2 ай бұрын
so same as HK government huh? Art. 23
@campfiresnlasguns
@campfiresnlasguns 2 ай бұрын
@@PrograError as long as you've never lived a week in SG. Yea, we're a communist special administrative province. Senator Tom Cotton was right btw, so you guys dont deserve TikTok.
@joshjonson2368
@joshjonson2368 2 ай бұрын
​@@campfiresnlasgunswhat did you expect from a Chinese city lol, capitalist or communist its gonna be a authoritarian social darwinian paradise
@april9242
@april9242 2 ай бұрын
ur really good at talking about asian countries and cultures without being fetishy or doomeristic. loved the video! ❤❤
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
Right!
@alphestanley7194
@alphestanley7194 2 ай бұрын
I view that the explanation of the exit of Singapore from Malaysia was a bit too simplistic. It was far more than just Malaysia not wanting to accommodate Singapore but rather the fear that LKY’s populist stance would threaten the Malay hegemony in Malaysia. The irony however was that the decision of Tunku Abdul Rahman to remove Singapore was in order to reduce tendencies of racial tensions. Between those who supported LKY’s multiracial stance (the Chinese) vs the pro-Malay hegemony stance (the Malays), the consensus was that by the 1969 elections, LKY’s populist idea,a would have caused too much tension between the Chinese and the Malays. Yet in 1969, the same populist ideas were propagated by Gerakan (a Malaysian party) which resulted in riots anyways. LKY by no means truly wanted for a fair and equitable society for the races in Singapore, but one thing for sure is that he was a populist and at the time there was genuinely a divide between multiracial Malaysia and a Malay Malaysia and Singapore was of the former. But the true irony is how LKY enabled majoritarian politics which has trickled down into a privileged Chinese class, not so different than the privileged Malay class in Malaysia. Hence you see the stark differences between Chinese Malaysians and Singaporean Malaysians.
@PrograError
@PrograError 2 ай бұрын
TBH the pre-merger part was often overlooked. Even on the social studies textbooks... it's almost always "something something Malaysian Malaysia something something" and ... the end.
@feamn9916
@feamn9916 2 ай бұрын
A whole day and this video is still available in Singapore! Amazing
@xxnxx845
@xxnxx845 2 ай бұрын
watching this in singapore 😂🙏
@aaastooges
@aaastooges 2 ай бұрын
Goes to show how exaggerated this is lol. Just go on social media and you can see so many citizens shittalking abt govt and PAP but they didnt mysteriously disappear or get sued did they?
@humanshieldz
@humanshieldz 2 ай бұрын
6 days and counting lol
@lordbored7006
@lordbored7006 2 ай бұрын
@@aaastooges what's up with all the singapore hate? I get that it's the subject of the video but you would think it was the next china with all the fearmongering
@pingdragonify
@pingdragonify 2 ай бұрын
@@lordbored7006 Coz the video has 0 nuances and a lot of his talking points are missing a ton of context. His only perspective of Singapore is from a very very marginalised group (Trans) that even the most liberal western countries are struggling to accept. Is it no wonder he believes Singapore is like Ba Sing Se?
@LuciusHill
@LuciusHill 24 күн бұрын
I get the feeling Anthony wasn't just "Fucking with them" lol
@somethingintheway151
@somethingintheway151 24 күн бұрын
I am a Singaporean. I was put in jail for 7 days, for eating a THC edible. The thing is, when I got arrested, they told me I was going to be in jail for 1 year at least. They put me in solitary confinement. There were no windows, no clocks, and they tied me to a metal bed. The lights were always on 24/7, and there is a CCTV camera pointed right at the bed. If I wanted to piss, shit, or drink water, I had to ring a bell and a guard would come. Sometimes when I rang the bell, nobody answered, so I soiled myself. This incident was 2 years ago, and I have been going for therapy every single week up till now to recover from the trauma I experienced. I am blessed to have not been fired from my job, and that I can afford a good therapist. Most of my colleagues are European, and cannot fathom being put in jail for marijuana consumption. I am now relocating to the Europe in hopes of a life with more freedom. I don't think I would ever want to come back to Singapore again.
@onlyabusemejaegs
@onlyabusemejaegs 23 күн бұрын
Sounds like they had mental health concerns.
@internetsnobody
@internetsnobody 2 ай бұрын
hi. as someone that knows Harvey personally(i even created this account to not be identified by her and her “friends”), she is not all innocent here. while i empathise on her imh r-word case, she has made many threats to many people. calling the cops on people who oppose her, actually planning to send anthrax/drug packages to her now ex-friend’s parents and threatening violence to people whom she deems traitorous. this is just my personal experience with her and her group.
@-w-8429
@-w-8429 2 ай бұрын
get this to the top ong
@adambasri3397
@adambasri3397 2 ай бұрын
Idk bout anyone else, but I noticed the same trend over and over again when it comes to male trans. Was he/she really r word or was it one sided love? I wonder I wonder 🤔
@internetsnobody
@internetsnobody 2 ай бұрын
@@adambasri3397 for her r-word case, im treating it as if she really was. im just mostly here to highlight that she doesnt deserve the traction she’s getting because shes a horrible person. she does not deserve praise when she does things that she condemns.
@devofficialchannel
@devofficialchannel 2 ай бұрын
Well, I mean you can't exactly put victims up a pedestal either. She needs to work out on her issues. I still sympathise with her r-word case, but she really needs to improve as a person.
@espeon871
@espeon871 Ай бұрын
I feel bad for her and i hope she gets justice but while fighting for her justice its good to recognise that her as a person isnt someone to be put on a pedestal, and i hope she reflects or someone intervenes before it escalates, although we shld all still fight for justice for her tho since it means justice for all.
@booseeyang
@booseeyang 2 ай бұрын
Singaporean here. Too many points to counter here to keep this brief enough. So all i will say is, of course there are problems in every country, but the problems raised here are mostly one offs. For example, maids getting abused, yes it happens, and when it does happen, the justice system kicks in and jailed the employer. The flip side of that is, there are thousands of maids working in singapore today that are not abused and get to earn a good salary to send back home to their families. The narratives that are pushed by this video are mostly just that, narratives. Singapore is a great place to live, where everyone is treated equally under the law and have a high standard of base opportunities to get started in life.
@humanshieldz
@humanshieldz 2 ай бұрын
I've seen a video of this family whose domestic helper are allowed to drive their mercedes to do grocery shopping and i can't remember what else the family actually did for them but they were all smiles and lively when being interviewed. And those friends i have with helper all treated them well, some even bring them along for their holidays. We're not perfect and we're not for everyone, some people are not suitable to live here even though they are born here then they can move to a place where they can express themselves better. There are videos of Americans living in China that very much prefer it there while some swear by their own country and will never move. Everyone, including the country is just trying to do what it can to survive.
@owo4470
@owo4470 2 ай бұрын
you forgot to mention that the main reason for seperation of singapore and malaysia were the racism between both countries, which led to a racial riot
@ms.tinabiscuit
@ms.tinabiscuit 2 ай бұрын
Yeah
@youtubesewersocialist
@youtubesewersocialist Ай бұрын
It was literally mentioned at 12:05
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын
@@youtubesewersocialist glossed over
@MsKateC2K
@MsKateC2K 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the part in the Anthony Bourdain clip where every household has a maid, it reminds me of how most South Asian and SE Asian households have "help". Not that I don't think it causes an issue of inequality, but I think it's also very cultural and prevalent in the countries surrounding Singapore too. My Bangladeshi friend said she had a maid when she was a child and treated her horribly, and so did everyone else in her family.
@WabboGabb0
@WabboGabb0 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Even I, a Filipino, grew up with househelps who do most of the chores while my parents are at work. Historically speaking, pre-colonial Philippine society is stratified, which includes serfs or servants at the bottom rung. It has been carried on even through colonial and post-colonial times.
@brookb5890
@brookb5890 Ай бұрын
I had a friend from Singapore who is ethnically Malay, and the stories she told me about her school sounded so fantastical that when I was younger, I just brushed her off as exaggerating (we were preteens, after all) until we were in high school and she had to go back (something to do with her mom's immigration; I can't remember) and she would do video calls and send pictures for a while and I realized she wasn't exaggerating. The wealth disparity was just normal for her, so she didn't think to explain anything because she just saw it as a fact of life. It wasn't until I got to college that I realized that her situation wasn't unique to Singapore. I made a friend from South Africa who told me an almost identical story about being from a relatively middle-class background, getting a scholarship to attend a "good" high school, making friends with, and getting bullied by "rich" kids. Girls from Brazil, Ethiopia, and a guy from Uruguay had very similar stories. After college, when I joined the workforce, I realized these instances of wealth inequality and rigorous enforcement of education standards with false promises of meritocracy aren't limited to the global south. It happens in America, too. Because of who my parents are and where I was born and grew up, I wasn't exposed to this until after I was an adult. Of the people I mentioned, all of them have desperately tried to stay in the U.S. because the opportunities promised them at home didn't actually exist but because they attended University here, they've been able to build small but stable networks. There are people I've met through work who have similar experiences all over the U.S. They've worked hard, but are aware that the opportunities they've had make them the lucky ones. Their stories can be used as examples of meritocracy at work, but they all can name childhood friends who were just as if not more smart or hardworking who weren't given the same opportunities and suffered for it. There is a war in Ba Sing Se. There is a war in Singapore. There is a war at home. I find myself thinking a lot these days of two poems I read in high school for a WWII history class. "First They Came" by Martin Niemöller and "The Hangman" by Maurice Ogden. I hope we don't let history repeat itself again.
@chocolateaddictedartist5924
@chocolateaddictedartist5924 Ай бұрын
My entire grandma's side of the family are Indian Tamils who migrated in the early 1900s to Malaysia and Singapore, but my grandma's dad, who worked on rubber plantations there, and later as a bank teller, eventually decided to move his family back to India, although my grandma's extended family were still in Malaysia and Singapore, and remain there to this day. I was always fascinated by this side of my heritage, since my family never talks about what life was like in Malaysia and Singapore. So thank you for making a video shedding a light on the situation in Singapore. I found it very educational.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын
Hmmm
@suryapratapsinghdhaka3197
@suryapratapsinghdhaka3197 2 ай бұрын
Correction* coolie is not used as a slur in India infact it has been celebrated in many movies in the light of average hardworking honest men and even today coolies exist in india and it is not slave labour, it is basically another word for baggage handlers for railways
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
You’d think there’d be a thriving queer scene in Singapore because it feels like a fun place.
@ahn0x
@ahn0x 2 ай бұрын
Ppl have no time for fun
@skates4ever
@skates4ever 2 ай бұрын
as a queer person living in singapore, it can be fun. you just need to find a tight knit group of people and stay within populated areas to stay safe.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
@@skates4ever That’s the same in India too. Also, hope I can hang out with you all sometime.
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
There is! Im in the queer scene, theres a lot of balls, and pink dot and drag scene. We even have famous queens! Like vanda ms joaquim and opera tang and sapphire blast.
@espeon871
@espeon871 2 ай бұрын
@@skates4ever yep, also go into underground scenes like join vogue classes, go to drag shows, and slowly get into the community thru that.
@ziiiim
@ziiiim 2 ай бұрын
People usually don’t realize that Singapore is not actually a democratic country
@ernststravoblofeld
@ernststravoblofeld 2 ай бұрын
It's about as democratic as the US. You get to vote, and pretend you're having some say in things.
@ziiiim
@ziiiim 2 ай бұрын
@@ernststravoblofeld that’s a different issue that I have no expertise 😂
@Bell_plejdo568p
@Bell_plejdo568p 2 ай бұрын
@@ziiiimhow is not and what countries would u cosnider “democratic” than
@ziiiim
@ziiiim 2 ай бұрын
@@Bell_plejdo568p in my idea, a democratic country should not have a prime minister who can stay in office for two decades
@glenn84
@glenn84 2 ай бұрын
Byproduct of the Westminster style of government. We don't have proportional voting and it's more like semi-proportional. Winner takes all is causes large majorities in parliament where the party leader will automatically be prime minster.
@MuadMouse
@MuadMouse 2 ай бұрын
As a Finn I can attest to the neutralizing effect of having your sense of self tied to your country being the paragon of peace and virtue. We are conditioned from childhood to firmly believe in our social democracy being the best framework there is, or ever could be. It doesn't help when foreign socdems point to us as the ideal. The conditioning is so deep that someone suggesting otherwise feels like a personal assault. Our current regime, a natural alliance between rabid neoliberals, ethnonationalists and Christian conservatives, is hurrying the decades-long project of dividing and conquering the people with inhuman cuts, but criticism of these policies or the ideology behind them is widely considered unpatriotic. I imagine Singaporeans, also in a country that serves as a capitalist lackey at the edge of the Empire, might be in a similar trap of deliberate cultural conditioning. Capitalism makes all societies milkshakes made with feces; social democracy and its ilk make us compete on who has the most sprinkles in an effort to keep us from deciding that milkshakes shouldn't contain any feces. The struggle is international, and thanks for shedding more light on it!
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын
Oxymoron
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
7:43 Shoutout to the Natives of Bengal. We do get around.
@nananou1687
@nananou1687 2 ай бұрын
Yes!
@shubh.bapi_9423
@shubh.bapi_9423 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of our family from Barisal and Dhaka getting land schemes in Andaman and Nicobar Islands after partition. I didn't knew Bengalis even went to Singapore!!!😮
@LoveisStoredInTheLain
@LoveisStoredInTheLain 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. No one is talking about it and it’s driving me crazy.
@avdhutjoshi676
@avdhutjoshi676 2 ай бұрын
That whole conversation at 17:00 was so insane, everything from "I know how do my laundry in theory" to "Moving clothes from my washing machine to putting them in the dryer is therapeutic"
@Ravi9A
@Ravi9A 2 ай бұрын
bourdain said nothing wrong.
@Marbeary
@Marbeary 2 ай бұрын
I think most people in South East Asia already knew LOOONG time ago that Singapore is a police state. They made a shirt about it as souvenirs. You barely see them but they are always watching.
@tackyakiii
@tackyakiii 2 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness!! The Kontinentalist's shoutout!!! I love their writing. thanks for making this video!
@savitgupta9414
@savitgupta9414 21 күн бұрын
actually coolie isn't really a slur anymore in India. It refers to the people who carry your luggage, mostly for transporting luggage from trains to the cars.
@HanyaAngulooke
@HanyaAngulooke 2 ай бұрын
For those who don't have a background with genetics I want you to know that the UN in the 1950s have said after world war 2 that the ideas of race are a social construct and not based on scientific evidence. For one random mutation to occur in a population it takes roughly 70,000 years. So therefore, a population has to be genetically isolated for millions of years to have differences appear but something as nebulous as having a "smarter" race cannot exist within the species (we are all one species for a reason). For biological differences that we can measure and do see in real life, tibetan people tend to have larger lungs and higher counts of red blood cells. So that means the differences we see in life about how "smart" you are, are instead based on our environment/culture/experience. We even learn our environment has an effect on our biology as well when we started researching about epigenetics, microbiomes (did you know some viruses infect cells but actually help them?). The culture and idea of lineage and heritage often arise from cultures with a "noble" class to rationalise their superiority. The idea of family changes, families don't even necessarily exist? You could just as easily find every single life part of your family. It's hard to realise just how much your culture/experiences affects the way you think.
@HanyaAngulooke
@HanyaAngulooke 2 ай бұрын
@@user-wg1fp4zn6s Who says? Spanish people back in the 1600 trying to come up with a reason why to hate their muslim neighbours and jewish population? The creation of the idea of race literally came from christian spanish people as they took back control of "modern spain" from their african muslim neighbours across of gibraltar. People always argue that humans are doomed to become racist because of tribalism but what if we were just maintaining these ideas? What if we rewrote culture to become more self aware, we have already been able to let humanity understand complex topics from particle physics even quantum physics all the way to astrophysics. People could just as easily be exposed to this sense of cultural self-awareness as well. Race can be so intrinsic in daily life that it seems impossible for it to not exist just like the idea of love. Western culture's ideas of love has changed so much throughout history and ideas of chivalry, courtly love, love for love's sake were picked up from the middle east by crusaders once they returned to europe. I mean we literally globally use the arabic numerals now. We are just merely products of history, where only you are the one that drew those lines of differentiation yourself. Why do you think it's such a hard concept for people to understand that there is no self? We can argue it's a useful evolution to have and all that but what is the self? It doesn't exist, we just want to believe in it's vague notion that I am seperate from other things. No you are not, every person you come close to, your bacteria mingle, their ideas and yours interchange, your brain chemistry is altered, the chaos theory of it all slowly changes you. Here's a helpful way to think of yourself, your personhood is like a climate and maybe your emotions are like the weather in how it can affect your decision making. Your actions can affect your climate which then affects the characteristics of the emotional weathers you may face in the future.
@HanyaAngulooke
@HanyaAngulooke 2 ай бұрын
@@user-wg1fp4zn6s Bro are you like frantically googling this stuff lol? Like you've told me this one thing that appears later in research of how we track populations but you don't even know how we got there 😂 little bro forgot to check what the point was. I'll try and summarize it but it's basically a trend we're basically touching on. Like it's not definitive what we're looking for here ok? When we use scientific data we can only really describe trends of genetic population data using allele frequency and messenger sequences, etc. but depending on the sensitivity of the test we're doing can really affect what we're measuring of course (you can think of it like magnification or our scale). I can focus on very few genetic messenger segments of like nice repeating sequences since it's easier to count the changes of genetic diversity there based on the differences in repeated sequences (keep in mind we are talking about genetic differences caused by SEX and sexual reproduction here, NOT genetic mutation, again for it to appear in a population it takes millions of years for random mutations to take in a population). Here we then arbitrarily determine two separate measures we want (the two cultures you listed) and measure the trend that these populations had, I dunno, more interactions between the genetic groups let's just say. THAT is what we're talking about here, that is the scale of what we're talking about here. Hence why science communication is important because humans have a habit of having reasonings shape fact/reality first. Literally the language we use forces us to think in I, you, self, literally just read 1984, if we want to be able to empirically see things we must be able to distinguish our biases and to that you must be able to question everything about yourself, to understand something better, you must see it for it's full context trying best to avoid the biases we have. So basically with this same idea that we can track trends in genes populations with a much wider focus we can do some silly thing, example; why I can send to 23 and me (other genetic data hoarders are available) DNA from whatever the fuck can still somehow send me back results that I'm suddenly half bulgarian with a hint of Ha'waiian eccentuated with a Sumerian garnish ontop. It's just selling us a nicer narrative to make you feel special 🥺🥺. Try it, send your pet's dna, maybe they'll start realising it and banning it 🤣🤣 cause people have already done it.
@HanyaAngulooke
@HanyaAngulooke 2 ай бұрын
@@user-wg1fp4zn6s little bro doesn't want to know 😭😭 🤖🤖I AM USER WG1FP4ZN6S, I AM DESCENDANT OF ROME AND VIKING BLOOD, I DON'T BELIEVE IN HOROSCOPES BECAUSE IT'S FOR GIRLS! INTJ btw 💅💅. Sure bro, believe in your "facts" ✊✊😤 Goofy ah fucking reply thread 😭😭
@HanyaAngulooke
@HanyaAngulooke 2 ай бұрын
@@user-wg1fp4zn6s I swear to god if youtube will ever let me reply to my own youtube comment. Sure bro believe in whatever you want man we got flavours for everyone. You are the rare descendant of GREAT ROME mixed with VIKINGS and you only shower in cold water and know the REAL TRUTH! Zodiacs are stupid!!1! AND FOR GIRLS!1!!! Though you are INTJ 😌💅💅 I get it bro, you really dismantled me there. Ignorance is truly bliss.
@hazaubel6532
@hazaubel6532 2 ай бұрын
are we seriously taking the UN words seriously ? the same org that has iran china and russia in the security council ?LOL it remains as a matter of facts that selective breeding does work on humans the me way it works on animals ? does that mean that it's ethical ???? HELL NO there's no need to lie and be delusional just to recognize that something is WRONG , in fact even breeding animals is ethically questionable at best
@JMoore-vo7ii
@JMoore-vo7ii 2 ай бұрын
Crime is everywhere, especially where you dont see it
@cormoran_strike
@cormoran_strike 19 күн бұрын
Singapore doesn't hide it's colors. It's actually telling everyone that she plays by her own rules or go somewhere else that sucks.
@token7752
@token7752 2 ай бұрын
Ayyyyyy! I didn't ever think Singapore would get a video on this channel
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
16:07 Yeah, this feels eerily familiar to us in India too.
@miguelquintero6117
@miguelquintero6117 2 ай бұрын
great video! as always
@saladspoonami4563
@saladspoonami4563 2 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched finished yet but as a Singaporean was surprised to see the title will watch Soon I am excited
@Redl1me_
@Redl1me_ 2 ай бұрын
Born and lived here my whole life Singaporean here (been 2 America twice so far), that whole clip of the maid thing with Anthony Bourdain was an exaggeration, not every Singaporean can afford a maid and my family never personally have one (my mom does the chores ^_^). However my Aunt did suffer a stroke back in 2021 so we were forced to hire a maid from Indonesia to take care of her as a necessity.
@q38333
@q38333 2 ай бұрын
Its not an exaggeration, its a fair generalisation of the reality of MOST singaporean families ; having a maid to do chores. No one is pointing fingers at specific families.
@vincentmoh8253
@vincentmoh8253 2 ай бұрын
​@@q38333" MOST" , it is still a minority that has a maid in their household
@lucylucyinred
@lucylucyinred 2 ай бұрын
The clip makes me so pissed which I know isn't really the point of the vid. But just seeing how proud those people are about being able to push their chores to some underpaid help and stating that's the reason women are able to have time to join the workforce. Like no, a lot of us are just poor and have to have every one in the family work just to survive. And do all our own chores. What a poor representation of Singaporeans
@SkyFireYZ
@SkyFireYZ 2 ай бұрын
@@lucylucyinred Its simple economics. They make more money working than doing the household chores by relegating that part of the job to someone else. If you made 10k a month would you give up your well paying job to take care of your children full time or just get a maid? What you see in the clip is simply children being spoilt by their parents, absolutely nothing to do with maids
@TPDTND
@TPDTND 2 ай бұрын
​@@vincentmoh8253depending on the era i would say 7 out of ten households including hdb in the 90s and 2000s had hired a maid before, it was much cheaper then
@user-gt7im7rx7j
@user-gt7im7rx7j 2 ай бұрын
I agree with the points you brought up about Singapore's issues, but if I can make one criticism, the ATLA framing was really jarring in a video about a real life country. Also someone has probably warned you already, but Singapore is very online, so apologies in advance if you start getting angry Reddit users in the comments.
@ahn0x
@ahn0x 2 ай бұрын
I respect your right to have an opinion. I find it extremely apt, as a real life person in that real life country
@feamn9916
@feamn9916 2 ай бұрын
This is stupid no Singaporeans are patriotic enough to get angry lmfao
@Geostationary0rbit
@Geostationary0rbit 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for makeing this video about Singapore, i feel like there really isn't a lot of English speaking political overview videos of Singapore at all, and have been looking for something like this for a long time
@ultraferal6138
@ultraferal6138 2 ай бұрын
been thinking about some of this stuff lately ima give this a watch
@yvenz218
@yvenz218 2 ай бұрын
hi elliot. i stay in singapore and having found out about operation high tide when it happened, i felt like speaking out was dangerous and humiliating. ur work is so important
@peainpod
@peainpod 2 ай бұрын
as a singaporean and avatar-lover, i appreciate this deep dive and was so hyped when i saw the video title HAHAHA
@milesoyasumi
@milesoyasumi 2 ай бұрын
Well edited Well spoken Well researched, learned a lot !!! Keep doing what you’re doing
@iphacus
@iphacus Ай бұрын
Hello, I'm a Burmese that has been raised in Singapore by immigrant parents from childhood. The case you brought about the Burmese worker is extremely disheartening(my family at the time were extremely sad to hear that it happened to a burmese national who worked as a maid), but you portray it as if every single house worker is abused in that way. I have had family friends who had to work as maids to support their families and improve their incomes. However, very rarely they are abused by their Singaporean employers. I feel like this is a little disingenuous to do. It would have been more appropriate to list worker that work in construction. I am not educated enough to talk about construction, but from rumours of my local area, there has been a death in a train line which halted construction for a while. I agree with most of the video's reports on crimes and I agree with the fact that Singapore doesn't necessarily have the medium to freely speak your opinion. Although I do not quite understand the cult following of the late Lee Kuan Yew, he led Singapore through tumultuous times after separating from Malaysia. His policies were there as a response to the communist insurgency in Malaysia at the time. In the case of a country that had recently been seperated from Malaysia and diplomatically tense with its neighbours, it moved towards some would call a 'dictatorship', enacting policies that took away rights and having a lot of rules in place. "Safety" back then was being an anti-communist and having anti-communist policies. You can argue if this is still relevant today, but most of the laws date back to this era. (To note because this may be a point of bias; I am not a fan of communists. I'm Burmese.) Despite this, the government introduced a lot of quality of life infrastructure and policies that helped the average Singaporean (eg. easy scanning of passport when you're entering and leaving Singapore to name an example from the top of my head). This led to Singaporeans obviously being reliant on their governments or people of authority to do the work that most people deem a 'hassle' for them. The example you list of the four people in the hawker centre conversing about doing laundry and their lack of ability of knowing how to do so of comparing it to the 'communist party' is quite interesting to me because of that. This just means Singaporeans are just not independent as compared to western countries. The quote from Lee Kuan Yew in 1983 was; "What we discovered in the 1980 census, which I think has to be brought out, is that we are really discarding our able parents in the next generation and doubling the less able." This sounds horrible on a vacuum. But if you know a little bit of Lee Kuan Yew's philosophy, he sees Singapore as having no natural resources, nothing in particular. It is primarily getting its resources from imports, even its water. Singaporeans themselves are the Singaporean's valuable resource. “The only resource we have is our human capital. This remains the most important and single most crucial resource for us. We will continue to invest heavily in workforce development by equipping all our workers with relevant skills to meet the demands of the changing economy while providing additional holistic support to uplift more vulnerable workers.” This is not said by Lee Kuan Yew himself, but the party that he founded, specifically by the Minister of Manpower. Do note that the practice of Eugenics was still being done in 1979 in California. Although it stopped in the same year, it would not be a surprise to say that Lee Kuan Yew, with his all-divine-thinking thought that this practice would still be acceptable if brought to Singapore. Obviously, this speech still blemished his party's ratings for quite a while, but understand his philosophy before misconstruing it into thinking that the Singaporean government hates poor people. You can criticise the average Singaporean for being too reliant on the government and having other people to do their jobs for them. You can criticise the education system for being too hard or tough. I wouldn't have an issue about that. But this video has underlying tones of misrepresenting LKY's equality quote (without full knowledge of his philosophy), misrepresenting the housemaid incidient and LKY's policies is what is not quite convincing me. The research is done well, but you might have rushed your conclusions.
@iphacus
@iphacus Ай бұрын
Nvm I just saw the Bibliography you used and its Wikipedia and actually listed it as a primary source jokes on me for saying the research was done well, it would seem that you already had an agenda and used any evidence you could find to support your view
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын
@@iphacus bruma bros
@Unixlbit
@Unixlbit Ай бұрын
Thank you! As a Singaporean, some of the things he said rlly confused me, but I think this critiques this vid very well. Even though I do agree with some of the things he raised, such as racial discrimination, lgbtq+ discrimination, sexual harassment (even though I don't believe that any society can completely prevent these things) he was def missing a lot of points from the other examples he gave. I also just thought the LKY example was out-of-touch? considering LKY stepped down in 1990 and Singapore has def changed over the course of 34 years not being under his leadership. Singapore has def taken steps to be more inclusive abt minority groups (heck we basically have to support ppl in the lower tax bracket) + Our law and order has improved, workplace safety has improved and anti-corruption practices has improved. So it's rlly not that bad as he explains it!
@Thirteenth-cs2cm
@Thirteenth-cs2cm 2 ай бұрын
As someone who has firsthand experience of being in a anti- LGBTQ church in Singapore, I think it's pretty safe to say that, yeah, the bias is still there and the government doesn't care about the issues we face XP
@elaineoh3984
@elaineoh3984 2 ай бұрын
For a start, I feel our migrant workers seriously need more rights and protection. Other than 1 day off a week (which can be bought out), I just learned live in domestic helpers are only entitled to 7 hours of uninterrupted rest each day. My own 9-6 sometimes already drive me up the wall, having to be on standby to serve my employer for 17 hours is so unfathomable.
@monimuppet6132
@monimuppet6132 2 ай бұрын
First of all, I DID remember that from the beginning of the vid. Don't judge me. Second, this was something I didn't realize I needed to know. I was born in the 80s so there were pieces that I do remember, but I haven't given Singapore or it's role much thought in my adulthood. Thanks to you and your friends for bringing it back to my awareness. (All hail ATLA references 🙌🏾). And lastly, this is a very nice look on you 👌🏾 😊 See you next time!
@thekonkoe
@thekonkoe 2 ай бұрын
I’m a foreigner living in China, and I think a huge aspect missing here was how obviously some of Lee Kwan Yew come from a Chinese perspective. Even the anti-Marxist obsession is almost certainly at least partly a result of the Malay Emergency when almost all ethnic Chinese were suspected as potential Marxist rebels. How could that still be relevant into the late 80’s? Because LKY and other elite were still running things 30-40 years later. Mostly though, Lake Laogai is barely even a reference to 劳动改造 it’s just the standard name. It’s the system of labor camps across China. There seems to be this notion that Singapore is a mostly western entity in Southeast Asia, which you push back on partly. Parallels to modern China and Chinese history are also very important to understanding Singapore. Singapore is multiethnic but a large ethnic Chinese community (which official policy unites into a single group) is a basic fact shaping many aspects of the country which can’t be ignored.
@owlsantuary
@owlsantuary 2 ай бұрын
the migrant domestic workers thing reminds me of the situation in taiwan, as well as the "well it doesn't affect us attitude" I've encountered here, especially when it comes to stuff like blackface in the cosplay community (and on halloween but that's not every day so). I brought it up in a seminar talking about the differences between social policing in our own countries and in taiwan and then my lecturer brought up the example of a singaporean official doing brownface and then the people who called him out on it being labelled racist instead of the actual perpetrator, so this video was very interesting to get a wider picture on the context of that incident's reaction
@katehartley2333
@katehartley2333 2 ай бұрын
Everything you touched on here is 100% applicable in Vancouver, BC. Right down to the perps and root causes.
@katehartley2333
@katehartley2333 2 ай бұрын
Also congrats on another banger of a vid
@Bricky_tan.productions
@Bricky_tan.productions 2 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? There is no crime in singapore…… there is no crime in singapore……..there is no crime of singapore
@user-wp3gb3us5d
@user-wp3gb3us5d 2 ай бұрын
Yep the worst crime here is.... ... chewing gum
@SkyFireYZ
@SkyFireYZ 2 ай бұрын
12:00 The real reason that they ousted singapore was because at the time the amount of chinese people in singapore suddenly becoming malaysians would have caused the malays to no longer be a majority of voters. He was also really popular among the malaysian chinese and his party taking over the whole country was a real threat.
@SkyFireYZ
@SkyFireYZ 2 ай бұрын
First result from google: Lee Kuan Yew, the first Prime Minister of Singapore, cried in 1965 during a press conference when he announced Singapore's separation from Malaysia. This emotional moment was a result of the deep disappointment and sadness he felt over the separation, as he had worked hard to build a unified Malaysia. The separation was a result of political and racial tensions between the Chinese-majority population in Singapore and the Malay-dominated government of Malaysia. It was a difficult and emotional decision for Lee Kuan Yew, as he had envisioned a different future for Singapore as part of a larger Malaysia.
@tansbizarreadventure
@tansbizarreadventure 2 ай бұрын
when i found out that in singapore you get a cainning along with a prison term i was like huh something is not right, and after this essay im not surprised but also still genuinely appalled. keep staying informed guys and join your mutual aid
@ca-ke9493
@ca-ke9493 2 ай бұрын
(you don't want to know what happened in our schools then) :))))
@teddiespicker
@teddiespicker 2 ай бұрын
@@ca-ke9493 BROO I think I've walked past seeing some of the students being prepared to get caned in my old secondary school (not the one I graduated out of) when I was walking into the GO for suspension and I still remember the odd feeling that I got that day very distinctly.
@PrograError
@PrograError 2 ай бұрын
@@teddiespicker TBH canning in school is for the worse stuff that are below juvie, and are really rare... (presuming near indoctrination to submission and the like) also, canning is nothing like the western kind of canning (slave canning). The apparent process is that the person is strapped up, the “conductor” use a thick rattan stick to dish out the lashes on the butt. If the person faints or anything, it's stopped. The procedure is to be done in one-go, with the person getting some sort of medical treatment for the soreness after (I believe) also the prison system is more like the Norwegian system where rehab is the way, even if the general complex design is more American...
@putra4101
@putra4101 2 ай бұрын
The thing is, SG is connected umbilical to the "west", it was so weird when last time Russia invade Ukraine, SG follow suit to sanction the Russia, but then when You-know-who doing the "g" words, SG need to self-censor, even Malaysia can say bluntly to the German PM, and to some extend Indonesia.
@_xiha_
@_xiha_ 2 ай бұрын
As a Singaporean, i can say that it is not a great place to live in. Yes it is safe, yes we are rich, but there is nothing to do other than partake in endless conspicuous consumption. Classism is extremely rampant, if you are not rich you are not a respected member of society.
@kino_mara
@kino_mara 2 ай бұрын
​@@thotslayer9914The question is how? when everyone is conditioned to think that this place is "safer" than any other place on earth. And when everyone on school jokes about school shootings in America, who would think of ever leaving? And the Singaporean passport, of course. you can travel almost anywhere with one, how convenient (I'm sarcastic). Do you see now? We are like people in ba sing se in a way 😂😂
@tankfire20
@tankfire20 2 ай бұрын
i used to hate ur videos, but overtime i realized that theyre bangers.
@PotatoCider
@PotatoCider 2 ай бұрын
waiting for the day ill start hating your videos :PPPP (jk) (i hate everything) (not jk)
@Bell_plejdo568p
@Bell_plejdo568p 2 ай бұрын
Y did u hate them?
@fancy0485
@fancy0485 2 ай бұрын
This was an insightful video, thank you. Love the ATLA reference.
@elliotsangestevez
@elliotsangestevez 2 ай бұрын
pleasure as always fancy!
@claytonchim7861
@claytonchim7861 2 ай бұрын
the crossover i never knew i needed ❤ (Singaporean and major ATLA fan)
@theimpossibros39
@theimpossibros39 2 ай бұрын
Let this be a random comment to remind you for no reason that there was that one American politician who believed that the CEO of TikTok is from China despite claiming that he’s Singaporean 7 times. Like I said, for no reason. 🙂
@BumHoleTickler
@BumHoleTickler 2 ай бұрын
Westerner stupid sia
@EspeonMistress00
@EspeonMistress00 Ай бұрын
The same politician people like him made fun of, what's your point here lol? 😂
@Yui-ee9mw
@Yui-ee9mw 2 ай бұрын
Whenever someone is claiming a country is perfect, the economy is blooming, i will look at eonomical diversity, education stree, youth mobility and birth rate to question, Is it that good?
@ahn0x
@ahn0x 2 ай бұрын
SG is along with Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, where they will make things so hostile for young ppl, then release articles in the newspapers asking "why are 1 in 4 youth having a mental health crisis/not having babies??" it's bc ppl have barely enough time to breathe, & everything is expensive. who has the space for themselves, nvm "children" lol
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
2:44 Sultan Mosque is even more beautiful IRL
@paolaarnez5840
@paolaarnez5840 2 ай бұрын
I'm a little bit worried about El Salvador for just the same thing. I'm super happy that they are more safe now but I'm still scared of the unbalance of power that could be used wrong
@reclusecruise6652
@reclusecruise6652 Ай бұрын
As a Singaporean living in her undoubtedly greatest town named Yishun, there is no better place to call home. All of us are satisfied. There isn't any other opinion. We are all happy. There's nothing else we should be feeling.
@havenprice
@havenprice Ай бұрын
Lmao. When i saw the headline i thought the main reason why singapore isnt ba sing se is cause we singaporeans love to complain. Its as if it our hobby lol
@CatrinaDaimonLee
@CatrinaDaimonLee Ай бұрын
we love to bitch because at our core we are deeply unhappy
@princessnek8458
@princessnek8458 2 ай бұрын
there is also a recent event about Kira Moon, A Drag Queen in Singapore that was assulted physically but the police "could not arrest" people that assulted her despite evidence and she had to push for her case in order to have something done while meanwhile other people were getting arrested left and right without reasons which includes sex workers etc. Being a Singaporean myself I really agreed with your video (and zuko) with Singapore feeling like a prison. We get so much praise about how good our city is and how safe it is but I nvr really felt safe, being trans myself, and I cant escape this city if I have no money. It really feels like we r trapped in a prison that from the outside is seen as a free country and all that jazz. Amazing video!!!
@allorophotosynthesis
@allorophotosynthesis 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video Elliot, great critical uncovering of a topic that a lot of people are not familiar with, but is so relevant!
@takiller237
@takiller237 2 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say that the Graduate Mothers Scheme was taught to me in school as objectively as possible. There was no attempt to hide it. Students decide for themselves if it was good or bad.
@eypu999
@eypu999 2 ай бұрын
Can you talk about the diverse citizens ( multi ethnicity) of Saudi? And how two sides can have harmful views that parallels Western racism (unironically from both sides lol) and the government not really attempting to look into that. And how governments ignoring issues doesn’t help the citizens at all.
@sleezysanti8240
@sleezysanti8240 2 ай бұрын
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT ROMANI CULTURE. their history is very interesting, because they have been oppressed for centuries all over europe
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