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Have you ever tried to auto tune Bob Dylan?

@@lukasbarnes4905 Whatever it was, I didn't notice anything unusual until 9:05.

@@AJ-on-youtube Melodyne is way more advanced than Auto-Tune.

@@lukasbarnes4905 What happened to your civility?

they dont care if you can sing now....looks FIRST...talent a distant second

Conclusion No. 2: a good singer will make a hit.

@@markfrost2707 counterpoint: Adele

​@@counterfit5she's the outlier cause she was at the forefront of the "body positivity " bullshit

That shall depend on the ego of the sound engineer...

Then you have cases like me... that I guess I'd make children and dogs cry, WITH OR WITHOUT the technology. =P

He sings as well as 75% in the top 100 charts. This is what they call being an ARTIST these days. Because everyone is special?💯😆🤣

*Vocally challenged, technologically savvy

With AI you can be vocally challenged and technologically challenged cause you can just click the make it better button

Mortally challenged

nothing was fixed tho, it just went from extremely bad, to really bad

@@jipvandelaar7647 that's still quite a lot of improvement. Ever hear Fergi sing without auto tune?

I can easily sing it much worse 😂

He didn't really fixed it fully, sure it was better than without the auto tune but the singing was still off key.

​@@jipvandelaar7647you are deaf

🤣🤣🤣

With Melodyne it sounded like neighbors at karaoke late at night got a record deal.

Are you implying I don't sound exactly what I'm trying to sound like?

Especially Filipinos singing at a karaoke (locally known as a videoke) while drunk.

Hahahaha!

Elvis Presley, Roy Hamilton etc were amazing and no auto tunes etc.

And 80’s/early ‘90s.

Correct that's why there's so much crap about now when,they can,do this

Jim Morrison truly one of the greatest singers of all time along with more than 50 others, that I can think off the top of my head

@The Pug King Paul Rogers jess roden teddy pendegrass 👍

Same. ^^ It's really all about the little things it seems...

Haha what, really? That's awesome to hear! Thanks to you guys for watchin' : )

Yeah, whatever you do, don't learn how to effin' sing ☹️

@@andershenriksen6997 right! Isn't that just pathetic?

​@@andershenriksen6997 You speak truth and wisdom, kind Sir...and people wonder why today's music sucks. "It's okay...we got this!"

Don’t teach her to suck ffs

25 years* AutoTune has been around and widely used since the late 90s.

@@TheLuizSouza I blame Cher. Hated 'believe' with a passion ever since it started playing regularly in the late 90s.

​@Lee Daniel can't you feel something inside you saying 'I really don't think your strong enough, no!'

Keep complaining old heads

​@@SignofTheScorpion Cher was one of the few to use autotune as an artistic device, wasn't she? The problem is not with T-Pain or Kanye who crank it up to eleven, it's overproduction and homogenisation of your average pop song

whats funny is this guy actually has some sort of accent that i cant quite put my finger on. Like dutch or something. Basically its obvious (to me, first language being english) that English was not this guys first language. Maybe its cause Americans use so many slang words and dont fully pronounce things, but it's pretty interesting that you find this easier to understand than the average American dialect. Personally I can't understand half the words scottish or aussie people say, even though it's all 'english'. edit: He's from Finland

@@riley8209 why would american nglish be easier then english in the uk bud ... your the ones with accents bruh do u not realize that u have the accent ... genius your talking to someone whos first language isnt english and your acting like american english is like the main form or something are us erious rn

@@jasonanderson5034 nah i get that. Chill out it aint that deep

@@riley8209 it is that deep tho why are u americans so ignorant im canadian i know i got a accent i wouldnt say to a non native English speaker that brits have a accent and i dont cause thass just a low iq moment it is that deep bruh u made a mistake the mistake is deep at least by your standards at least own up to it

Well if one is a terrible singer, nothing will save him/her 😂

Yeah, your voice automatically slides in tune, haha. I know what you mean.

Oh, and if you watch someone dance out of sync/time while playing, they can sway your own sync to the drummer

I've heard singers who don't have this part of their brain, or is it my ears!.

Thankfully you've got awesome artists like me to cover all those other frequencies that the "pros" just can't handle 🎶🎵💥 (no thanks necessary, but feel free to say hi the next time you hear one of us helping keep 'Happy Birthday' real 👍)

It turns out that not all people have the unit installed to detect out of tune singing. I guess that's optional part of the brain. And some pop artists appear to be selected via beaty contents instead of because of their skills, so it makes sense some of them are missing the optional unit, too.

You watch people polish turds?

Omg. I'm not an English native speaker and I've never heard of the expression polish a turd! It's funny!

​@@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabrielelol it's funny how we often forget about the weird little sayings we all have in our own languages. One of my favorites is "it's raining cats and dogs," which means that it's raining really heavily / it's storming

@@msjkramey Another of my favorites is "Kill two birds with one stone," which for non-native English speakers means to complete two tasks with one action. But, I much prefer to say "Get two birds stoned at once." I first heard that from Ricky in Trailer Park Boys, although I know he didn't originate it lol. He did help popularize the saying though.

He's an alchemist, for he made gold out of a turd.

It's basically the same process, general editing and time-correction, then melodyne, then effects and MAYBE autotune. Although after pitch correction if the singing is good enough autotune might sound TOO fake. Same process, but you actually have to be very careful to NOT overdoit

your comment made my day ! I appreciate your sense of humor. cheers!

The best shit i heard in years

Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤣!!!!

It sounds like karaoke lmao

Galaaaaa🤣

Reminded me of Meat Puppets II

Sounds like morty from rick and morty

Not realistic....typed and liked by people who do not listen to punk at all, to have this skewed viewpoint of "any punk band". Listen to Flipper if you want horribly out of tune punk instruments and vocals. Listen to the Meat Puppets II if you want slightly out of tune vocals sang to tight and in tune music. Great songs on that album. Any Nirvana fan knows that, or should. I like stuff like Dr. Know Plug In Jesus and Unity You Are One, where the vocals are in tune, or at least not dissonant to the music. But I think you do not listen to any punk, to make such a generalized and inaccurate joke against the music. This video sounds like he is copying whiny Emo/Screamo music to me, not punk. DK

@@hyperluminalreality1 if "and i took that personally" was a person lol. Great list tho.

lol

well, they used to. now all of this can be done by good computers with good software during live concerts in the fraction of a second. you don't even know that what exits the speakers is not what entered the microphone.

@@moos5221 Exactly, you're hearing Autotune not their actual voice.

Were the same technology available in bygone eras of music, it would have been used to the same degree.

​@@thegreathadoken6808 it didn't exist back then because people with talent existed.

Now it is looks first, talent last

@@mickzed6746 It didn't exist then because the technology wasn't there. It has nothing to do with talent. The first song which openly used pitch-changing that I can think of was in a song performed by Cher, who also performed in this era of perfect godlike talent, where no production was required nor asked for, presumably. The ability to enhance a song, or make it the very best it can be via various production methods is desirable, regardless of the talent performing the song. What, so the Beatles NEEDED that string track in Eleanor Rigby to mask their lack of instrument-playing ability? Of course not. Cher didn't need her voice pitch changed in the mid 90s, either.

@@thegreathadoken6808 it had everything to do with talent.... No talent... No singing career. That simple. Everything today enables talentless people to look like they have talent to people that have no clue what talent is. Simple minds relate with simple things....And yes, the tech did exist.... It's was called a recording studio.

A.I. might eventually be able to, but we're a ways off from that. What makes pre-2004 singers so good, is the imperfections. It seems that the last vestiges of good music showing up in the top 100 ends around 2003.

@@manictiger That's pretty spot on. 2002 saw the emergence of people who sing like cats. Example, Sarah Blasko. Putting on that rounded tongue sound that sounds like a cat with a mouse in it's mouth. Billy Eilish is another example.

*a way off (I don't know why people keep saying "a ways", LOL @@manictiger

@@drinkinslimi don’t think people say “a way off.” It’s either “way off” or “a ways off,” the latter of which is a colloquialism.

Where autotune shines is when it's subtle - taking a decent singer and making them sound great. Then you need a really good ear to hear it.

Lol, yeah, that's my favourite part as well - it's just got so much "I'm so DONE with this right now!" energy.

Haha thanks! Kind of an interesting dissection

Yeah, that's right. You never really know with these kinds of tricks. Thanks, more of this definitely coming!

I agree, but I do think autotuning can be heard if you pay close attention. The better people sang it to begin with though.. the harder it should be to spot. Not sure if there's already AI-driven auto-tuning resulting in a vocal texture to match, but it's not impossible to get flawless using 'the computer'.

If it produces a good track, and something good to listen to then, I do not really care. If someone is trying to pass them self off as an awesome singer, it would be dishonest. But then again, unless they lip-sync their music on stage, it will become apparent when they sing lol.

@@natepoodle9132 Not necessarily. While Melodyne and (even more so) the rhythm correction cannot be done live, Autotune is a realtime-effect which is often used in live settings. All you have to be able to is sing close enough to the correct note that the software gets it.

Bad performances still sound like bad performances with pitch correction.

I agree with you!

Thats kind of true but if you notice it works good when there are a bunch of tracks together with harmonies but if you notice when he solos a track it sounds pretty unnatural. So you can get away with harmonies to some extent but with a single vocal it starts to sound pretty bad really quick. And I would argue even this kind of sounded like Micky Mouse.

So doesn't work in real time. Or is there software for that also?

​@@jonbutcher9805 This is manual tuning, autotune does it automatically, thus it works live. Waves Real-time Tune also works like that, for example. Unless it's manual, it should work in real time

@@lucayaki awesome, thanks

@@jonbutcher9805 You're welcome :)

Is it because mediocre plastic surgeons cost more than great sound engineers?

Because it's not about art and talent. It's about influencing people.

​​​@@aguy446No its mainly about selling stuff to people, and influencing people comes second. And if we like it or not, most people like easy to digest text and texture. It sells best. And while i dont like the overwhelming majority of it, i still dont think there is anything wrong with that. Pop music isn't the most successful genre because the lables want it to (they are just taking advantage) but because people buy/ stream a shitton of it. Hate the game, not the player.

​@@aguy446Songwriting skill is better than talent dude.

How hard you all are splitting hairs to be right. To dipsh*t 1, you have to influence people to sell stuff. To dipsh*t 2, songwriting is a talent. The fact I have to explain all this is amazing.

Honestly the best part to me is how all of that is reproducible with only free tools if you try hard enough, i had a good chuckle because i did some weird stuff myself with audio lol

Have you heard the “worst rendition ever” version of “O Holy Night”? I can’t ever get through that one without laughing out loud.

Sure, grandpa

Frivolous.

"Back in the day" you also rode around in a horse and cart but time moves on mostly for the better.

Just don't play it in public 😂

It would be called the greate-shits by Moonic.

Made me think. You get lots of albums containing an "accoustic" version of a track. What about an album with an un-auto-tuned version?

You can use this bad track to quickly force a confession in court.

nah chloe x halle can out-sing half of the 70s stars

@@horizonkyun7203 I don't know who that is, but, of course, there are singers nowadays who can sing properly. It's just that they don't always need to be able to sing to make it.

The thing is, if you sing decently well, the producer can make it sound really good. So there is much less incentive for singers to really sit down and practice their part until they nail it 100% in the studio. Some singers are still amazing today, but I really like when people make a conscious choice to keep their vocal mostly unedited. Imperfection is something to practice minimizing but it can also add character. Character can very easily become strange when correction is applied

😂 I laughed out loud. I can imagine the feeling of watching the video.

You’re too pessimistic. First, just singing the right notes does not make you a great singer. If your voice doesn’t sound great, all the correctness in the world won’t make you a star. If it’s not special enough to be recognized, you will be quickly forgotten. Second, without a great song even the best voice in the world won’t make you a star. (And I’m not talking about meme songs like Gangnam Style which defy standards here.)

@@magicmulder Forgive my pessimism. I spent 25 years getting screwed over by the industry, spending thousands of dollars to get jerked around by producers. We had guys charge us $1,000 per song, and after recording held our music hostage saying "It'll be $1,000 more per song to actually mix them and give them to you". We had a producer convince us to come to Detroit and record us for free, with the thought he could shop us around, but he lost interest and just never gave us anything... There are exceptions to my comment... it's not ALL MUSIC... People like Lady Gaga, John Mayer, Keith Urban, Brad Paisley, Chris Stapleton etc are talented players and vocalists in their own right. The industry isn't totally devoid of talent, but in most cases talent isn't the first priority... Look at Brittney Spears, Taylor Swift, or even Garth Brooks and Kenney Chesney. They are mediocre vocalists, have all their songs written for them, and can barely play cowboy chords... yet they are astronomically sucessful... Their success far outweighs their talent... Especially compared to people out there like Tyler Childers, Marcus King, Philip Sayce, Colter Wall, etc.... The days of another Queen, or Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson, Fleetwood Mac, etc are long gone... Artists are "developed" not "discoverd"

This shit started happening 25 years ago small scale but now it’s used all the time

@@magicmulder You're to naive.

​@@ChrsGuit I understand your bitterness. There have been many examples way before computer technology where looks and image have taken priority over vocals. I think it mostly began in the 1970s as a market reaction to the success of musician the 1960s. That's when it became a very profitable commodity and success over talent became possible. There have been many "artists" who had session singers singing for them instead. In 1989/90 Milli Vanilli famously got exposed and also the male singer in Boney M in the late 1970s (same producer) was discovered not to have sung at all.

Lmao! Yeah, I cracked up at that part.

@@Zero_Ego Copium much?

​@Steve Houghton On the one hand it's pretty remarkable how much he was able to improve the his singing. However, I still clearly prefer the sound of the original. So yeah, at least from this example, software can make almost anything sound good. But you still need a bit of talent to sound great.

@@Zero_Ego He does pull the thing back in pitch, but there are a TON of artifacts left over from the software, which is the limitation. The average person listening casually may not hear them but if you listen for them they are pretty clear.

@@Zero_Ego no...the quality of the vocal is seriously lacking after the pitch correction, sounds very robotic and wrong in a way. A truly awful singer will still not sound stellar after pitch correction. Pitch correction is great and almost not noticable when using it for relatively small corrections but doesn't do well when the pitch is off by too much.

If you put on headphones and listen carefully, there’s obvious signs of extreme pitch correction. There are weird artifacts left over from the pitch correction. Can’t tell if you don’t pay attention but any experienced audio engineer can hear it.

You’re right! It does! 🤣🤣🤣

For me it's the imperfections that are so appealing. Even the best old singers have small inconsistencies that create a whole different vibe other than this perfect pitch and artificial stuff all songs have nowadays due to corporate decisions...

adele uses pitch correction. mind you, that still doesn't take away from the fact that she is very talented. talent comes in different shapes than singing perfectly on-key.

@@dec5847 if a singer can consistently sing in key, there’s simply no need for pitch correction.

No NOT kudos to them, they're an essential part of music being so fuckin terrible these days. Without them, only actually talented and deserving artists could record palatable performances. No frauds.

no its not what if u want a robotic vocal .. electronic music exists bud .. people enjoy it

@@jasonanderson5034 no its not what if u don't want a robotic vocal .. electronic music doesn't exist pal .. people despise it

@@ThePsho then u dont maniuplate it genius if u want it then u do i if u dont then u dont ... your a narrow minded idiot every genre of music has people who despise it and people who enjoy it u think everybody likes your music ..

Thanks so much!

Bruce Dickinson: “you can learn an awful lot from babies. I mean, the racket that comes out of that tiny little thing. And it goes on forever - they don’t lose their voice, do they, ever? Babies have got no fear of just letting rip with all their diaphragm and everything. And they’ve got these tiny little lungs. My God, they make an amazing noise. So you think about that, and you think when people say, “Oh, I cant sing.” Oh, yes you can - you’ve just forgotten how to do it.”

Cool, thanks so much Russell!