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Single 40 IDF Weber to Dual 40 Kadron Comparison
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Күн бұрынTest comparison on my Type 1 VW mystery engine 1800cc
74 X 88 with FK7 cam using stock Rocker Arms.
First impression....Dual 40 IDF Weber are best. Single 40 IDF are best for ruff and ready Baja racing. Dual Kadron Carburetors are really smooth for normal driving.
@smokepeddler 2 жыл бұрын
Just did the same thing. I bought a Baja with an 1835 . it has a 120 cam with a single delorto 44mm. I swapped the delorto with 40/44 Kadrons . Big difference. A lot more power every where.
@TheEZGZ 2 жыл бұрын
Good move
@MidwestMotoRider 8 жыл бұрын
Man its awesome that you just get to tinker with your bug so much! Never heard of Kadron so this was very informative. Thanks.
@brenton-lucas 8 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see the Kadrons back on, very interested in what results you are going to post in next video😉.
@vwmountainman9701 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched this one twice now. Well - honestly I've watched several of your videos at least 2 times each. Getting ready to switch my car from Dual 34's ( Baby Weber's ) over to Kaddy's. Still waiting on some Jets to come in. Excellent as Always !!!
@TheEZGZ 4 жыл бұрын
I hope your Kadrons have the 28 venturis. The Kaddy's should make a noticeable difference in mid range and top end and still give you some economy after a month or so. I say a month because I just know your going to have the peddle to the floor for a couple tanks of gas. LOL Hey, I just noticed the name. Good to see your comment. I kind of lost track of you. Looks like winter is moving in fast this year. Take care my friend.
@fernandomartinez5812 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEZGZ hi there, is there any chance that I can contact you direct? I installed my 40mm kadrons on my 1835. I'm getting a flatspot when shifting to 2nd.
@TheEZGZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@fernandomartinez5812 You just contacted me and it sounds like your accelerator pumps might need to add more fuel?????????
@fernandomartinez5812 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEZGZ Thank you for the advise I will make the adjustment. Also it seems to run better when I the air screw mixtures out by 1 turn & 1/2 out. Is that normal?
@TheEZGZ 3 жыл бұрын
Normal is a relative term. If it works for you so be it. Enjoy your ride, listen to your engine instead of your radio. Your engine is always communicating with you. It sounds like your good friends. Long live your friendship. Have a great day my friend.
@mrslugish3423 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Gotta love old VW's!
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Fun entertainment for this old coot
@AngeloC49 8 жыл бұрын
Those look awesome!!!!! Great work 👍🏻👍🏻 dual cold air ducting over the the rear fenders 👌🏻👌🏻 cheers 🍺🍺
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Well the true test for me is MPG and how well they work on the back roads. Thanks for the support
@bigwadventures7061 8 жыл бұрын
What's for dinner man. Great video I like the Kadrons I use mine for all around daily driver and love it. Keep on rolling buddy, we will all be watching. VW:-)
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Lot's of garden veggies this time of year. What kind of mileage do you get? Most folks don't care but when I get high up in the mountain roads where no gas is I like to have long range without carrying to much extra
@bigwadventures7061 8 жыл бұрын
+TheEZGZ I haven't really checked but off the cuff about 19. I would like to study that subject in the next few weeks . Want to put new plugs and air filters first they are original to purchase. Lots happening here at home not much time.
@choppersrule1 8 жыл бұрын
i have always like the duel carb sound mine use about the same amount of fuel as it did with the webba but towing was a bit different the twin car was better. good luck with it. have a great day mark
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Mark
@SandSquatchRacing 8 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great videos
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support
@playsportfun3356 6 жыл бұрын
Can't beat the dual kadrons. Always start and maintenance free. Glad to see you weren't running dual/ dual webber's. 1 into 2 will actually get more volume in your cylinders. A chain effect you can't get from 1 into 1
@raytrego8522 4 жыл бұрын
So underrated
@willcojak9650 8 жыл бұрын
I'm with you! I like a good running grocery getter too.
@alecberendt5238 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've also been also trying to figure out a center mount solution to keep things simple. Currently I have a weber progressive on my 1776, I'm curious if that would work better for you vs your single 40 idf.
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Probably around town if you get it dialed in. I almost bought one at the last swap meet but money is a issue and I am just trying to use what I have in stock. Eventually I will make a decision and get rid of all the stuff I don't want any more. I definitely would like to test your progressive set up.
@raymondheath7668 8 жыл бұрын
20 years ago I had the shop cut and modify a couple pair of 1600 dual port intakes so that I could experiment with 1972 1700 dual Solex and then an experiment of my own with dual PICT-34 carbs. Both were run on a 1676 with stock cam and neither worked out very well so I gave up
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
At least you tried. I respect folks that think out of the box and take matters into there own hands.
@raymondheath7668 8 жыл бұрын
Like you, I was trying to make use of what I had on hand. I was fortunate that there were other curious people out there and I was able to sell my two sets of custom intakes, carbs and custom linkage for almost as much as I had into them.... I wonder if anyone got them working...
@kodyweisbeck5026 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Very kind of you to let me know. I appreciate the support.
@bobbijeankisselburg6534 7 жыл бұрын
hey EZ GZ. great video again.. just wondering if you or anyone have any feed back on the empi hdmx 40's? single application
@TheEZGZ 7 жыл бұрын
I do not have any experience with them personally. Two 2 barrel carbs will give you better performance and you won't have to worry about heat in the intake manifold. The single centermount carbs need HEAT in the intake to work well.
@ImWayCoolerThanMost 6 жыл бұрын
Hey EZ! Where have you been these days? Also, what steering wheel is that? Hope you're well! -fellow volkshead
@RustyGlovebox 8 жыл бұрын
Some people swear by a pair Kadrons. Whats your gut feeling on fuel mileage? Sounds promising, looking forward to the report.
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
To soon to tell. Got to put some more miles down.
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
To soon to tell. Got to put some more miles down.
@charlesmartin7347 3 жыл бұрын
Great video EZGZ . I'm finishing up on my 1800 and I was wondering if I should run those Kadrons I'm not experienced like yourself and I'm afraid of the first cam break in . The price fits my budget what do you think EZGZ I used the Engle cheater cam 2 with panchito head's from CB performance for the 1800 . Tell me go for it or not no harm no foul .👍🤔 inquiring minds needs to know 😆🤣🤭 Thanks EZGZ as always blessings and more blessings to you and your family
@TheEZGZ 3 жыл бұрын
Go For it. Kadrons work great
@charlesmartin7347 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEZGZ your the man EZGZ !!👍✌️ THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE. as always blessings and more blessings to you and your family
@RodderFiles 8 жыл бұрын
i didnt even think about the Altitude, your adjustments on the carb would be way diff then say someone in Cali...
@johnmarks7243 8 жыл бұрын
Enjoying your self I see. Like you said, IDF's always seem to clog idles. I like stock 34pict, Kadrons, and 48 Ida's only. I know you have good luck with Delortos. I've never used those or IDF's. My favorite is a 1776 with stock valve heads ported and 48 IDA's. Putts around like a stocker till you get into it and surprise who ever try's to pass you. Vw's for life buddy
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Love my Dell's but now have the drip so will run something different until I figure it out. I some 48 dells I have run on the 2110. Sure makes for a touchy gas peddle at slow speeds
@stevenrubio5462 6 жыл бұрын
John Marks what ever happened to that one video of that vw engine you fired up on the bug chassis ?
@alec1451 3 ай бұрын
Trying to decide wether to get a set of used dual kadron 40's or dual AA 40 IDF's for my fresh 1835, w AA big valve head & ENGLE 110 build
@TheEZGZ 3 ай бұрын
No matter what you do dual carbs are a PITA The Kadrons are OK with that setup but a properly set Pair of 40IDF WILL BE smoother and work Great!
@alec1451 3 ай бұрын
@@TheEZGZ now the dude that i was building it for has decided to buy a 1776 that's already put together
@vwmountainman9701 5 жыл бұрын
What is your take on running a single - Dellorto 45 on a 1968 cc ? Going to do some trading with a friend. I would like a better selection of carburation until I decide what I like & works for what I'm running.
@TheEZGZ 5 жыл бұрын
It won't work. It will fall on it's face every time you give it gas. No mid range. You want Max of 40IDF with 28 mm venturis and it won't run much better unless wide open. One of those 36DRLA copies would be even better but you need HEAT in that intake manifold
@vwmountainman9701 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheEZGZ I ended up using the Weber 34's I just got rebuilt. They work super - winter came too quick - I didn't get a chance to put any miles on em yet. Thanks for the input !!
@ewetho 8 жыл бұрын
sounds like a winner. still think the center mount is cool.
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
It worked great except for the in town mileage. I'm not done with it. I might move it over to the 2110
@ewetho 8 жыл бұрын
+TheEZGZ were you not running preheat on the center-mount
@natedejong7575 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the stock brake line fitting was too restrictive on fuel flow with the Kadrons? Supposedly the tee that came with the original Kadron kits was larger diameter?
@TheEZGZ 4 жыл бұрын
Those small fuel lines will work fine around town at low speed but will not work if your going long distance on the Interstate Highway's. I got the car this way but later on changed to bigger fuel lines.
@natedejong7575 4 жыл бұрын
TheEZGZ hi thanks for replying. I enjoy watching your videos. I’m still gathering parts for my Kadron carb install. Did you make a video that outlines what fuel lines you changed to? I’ve had zero luck finding an original Kadron tee fitting that could mount to the center pivot linkage bracket. 👍🏼👍🏼
@TheEZGZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@natedejong7575 I just used a standard tee 5/16 barbed hose fitting and hose clamps
@natedejong7575 4 жыл бұрын
@TheEZGZ that sounds good for me. Thanks again.
@stevenrubio5462 7 жыл бұрын
How do you not have the huge flat spot like I do off of idle? You are even running an 009 distributor. How did u fix this
@TheEZGZ 7 жыл бұрын
drilling a small hole in the throttle plate for air to pass. You probably have some of your progression ports exposed. You also need the vwparts.aircooled.net/Weber-ICT-IDF-Pump-Exhaust-Valve-79701-000-p/79701.000.htm Watch more of my carb vids for complete details
@hectorotani27 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheEZGZ hey i just did as u stated and , glad i found this info , at 1st i was apprehensive in drilling holes in butterfly , but yes well worth it and i bought zero valve also blew carb out of any debris and running 2 pounds , i love my 40 idf in stock 1600
@wtbm123 8 жыл бұрын
Cool , i ordered a idle jet ,
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
I'm guess if it was a Weber carb the idle is 50 or 55. If it was Dellorto it would be 60??????
@wtbm123 8 жыл бұрын
50 , it had .50 stamped on it and looking up the carb it also said it came with a 50 . it may of still worked , but the ears that slide in the cap thing or what ever it is called ,were broke , well 1 broke the other bent over .
@stevenfoster5854 5 жыл бұрын
What fuel pressure are you running with?
@TheEZGZ 5 жыл бұрын
If I am off roading in the ruff I lower my pressure to 1 or 1/2 PSI If I am driving at interstate Hwy speeds I might go as high as 3 PSI
@1catbrains 8 жыл бұрын
Try some atlas nitrile gloves for general tasks. They wear like iron and will save your hands.
@TheEZGZ 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@TheStevemcqueen68 2 жыл бұрын
There is a saying , if its not broken ,don't fix it
@JoelPit 3 жыл бұрын
What heater boxes on a baja bug I didn't know that was possible. Being a VW noob is bitter sweet. I've always been a car guy in the last year I got my 1st diesel 5.9 cummins and air cooled engine 1600 Vw. It's so funny learning new engines
@TheEZGZ 3 жыл бұрын
Heat is good in winter
@VolkyHaus 5 жыл бұрын
What was the idle and main size
@TheEZGZ 5 жыл бұрын
Be more specific. idle and main of which carb. I can tell you this much. I have never had to change jet size from what they came with new. Thanks for watching and posting
@VolkyHaus 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheEZGZ the kadron set you installed in the video. Was a stock 16 hundred
@TheEZGZ 5 жыл бұрын
Stock Kadrons on a type 1. rebuilt 74mm stroker crank 88 pistions with FK7 camshaft 1.11 stock rockers on solid shafts with heavy duty single springs =1800
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