good move and enjoy! Fun little boat.

Thanks Claude. I just need to add a clip of you doing the moon walk on the deck stepping the mast without using a halyard to help....

Thanks! Got so much help from the Siren FB group that I am giving back, one video at a time...

Congrats!

You are welcome! Enjoy her, it’s a fun and quite capable boat.

You are welcome.

Ha ha, that must make you appreciate every bit of summer! Thanks for the kind note. I am glad you find those helpful.

Thanks. One thing I do differently is that instead of pulling on the jib halyard while lifting the mast with one hand, I now just raise the mast with both hands and then, take out the slack from the jib halyard and cleat it ounce the mast is fully vertical and secure.

@@siren17 great idea - more stable and less wear. I'm enjoying learning about your rigging and sail sytems - ingenious!

You are welcome. Thanks for watching!

??? Not sure what you mean :)

@@siren17 If the bottom of the mast is square on the bottom when tilted back the mast must first rise to overcome the 90° portion because it has to rotate around the mast tabernacle bolt. Sort of like having square tires on your car or bicycle, it has to bump up then go down. So a radius must be cut or ground based on the radius From the bolt which secures the mast to the tabernacle. Perhaps the mast already has been modified. I had to do this for my Catalina 25 swing keel which I trailered often. I had a gin pole system which allowed this to be done. When I first unstepped the mast, the standing rigging was damaged due to this very reason. Live and learn. The forces can be quite great.

I have a 3.5HP 20" long shaft. I considered the 6hp Pro too but is I think it's a bit too heavy (65lbs vs. 35lbs) and requires an external tank... That said, the 25" shaft would be better.

One thing I changed in my mast stepping technique is that I now don't try to pull on the jib halyard as I am lifting the mast up. I just have it ready with the jib attached, lift the mast with both hands (more power and more secure) and once it's all the way up, I raise the jib with one hand while holding the mast with the other and secure the halyard in the swivel cam-cleat prior going at the bow to secure the headsty. And yes, you'd have to shorten the stay to make room for the tensioner and that model of tensioner only has 3 holes to make adjustments in 1/2" increment... It drove my rigger a bit nuts, he had to recut the headstry twice. Now, i am told the stock tensioner for the Catalina 22 fits the Siren perfectly without the need to shorten the headstay. It's a different model that threaded on one side a bit like a turnbuckle and I guess is the exact same length than the Siren 17 headstay turnbuckle.

@@siren17 Thanks so much for the tips. I have installed the cam cleats for the halyards and found it a little awkward lifting with one hand , next time I will try two. What do you think about adding another attachment point on the mast above the original in order to correct the difference in length when installing a quick tensioner?

@@michaellarkin4809 it is easier to make a shorter headstay.

Thanks! Glad you like it. Tohatsu 3.5HP, great choice for this boat size.

52mm Stainless Steel Fixed Snap Shackle for www.e-rigging.com . Only 5 bucks, good stuff. I use those all over my rig for quick disconnects. www.e-rigging.com/52mm-stainless-steel-fixed-snap-shackle_p_6741.html

That’s the way to. A loose foot main will perform better. I ordered one from Precision Sails I am eager to use when the season returns in the spring...

Oh I thought of another question. What hp outboard do you have? I have to get that too.

@@ew5841 Tohatsu 3.5HP 4 Strokes, 20" long shaft. I think it's the sweet spot for that boat. Not too heavy at 43lbs, and enough power to get you out of trouble in most situations.

where are you located? If in the US, you should reach out to www.dwyermast.com/ , they offer various mast step system you can retrofit on an existing mast.

@@siren17 thx !! Aim from canada quebec i give them a email

Probably around $1,000

Non, pas assez de tension dans la ralingue de solent pour que ça fonctionne enroulé partiellement. Un emmagasineur structurel (installé sur l'étai) est une bien meilleur solution mais ça n'existait pas en petite taille à l'époque où le Siren 17 était construit. Notre Flow 19 en est équipé et il fonctionne très bien.