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@MaryannRidiniSpencer
@MaryannRidiniSpencer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your WORK. It is beyond me why our mother and father have not been obeyed. I pray this will happen soon,
@melindedemmers264
@melindedemmers264 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining and reaching out. While the Church seems currently to be led astray by ‘pope’ Francis, the Good Lord blesses us by sending us messages from faithful believers like you and faithful Archbishops like Viganò and Sarah 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼.
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
@MelindaDemmers Yes, the Church belongs to Our Lord. God bless you and Our Lady Mary keep you!
@Pine_eagle_1985
@Pine_eagle_1985 Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, it is kind of odd that successive Popes have paid their own homage at the Shrine of Fátima in Portugal, but they have all fallen short of following these very clear instructions from Heaven. Odd.
@anng.4542
@anng.4542 Жыл бұрын
Marianna, so happy to see you on The Fatima Center channel! I'm going to catch up on episodes 1-9 today.
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
@AnnG I'm delighted to hear from you! I'm so grateful that you want to catch up with the "Signs and Secrets" episodes. God bless!
@citruslemon5111
@citruslemon5111 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU MARIANNA FOR SHARING EVERYTHING YOU KNOW AND UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE VISION, MESSAGES AND PROPHESIES OF OUR LADY OF FATIMA. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO KNOW NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
@lynnnlynnn3673
@lynnnlynnn3673 Жыл бұрын
Oh mother of sorrow, pray for us.
@princessmommy8
@princessmommy8 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying the consecration has not been done but so many think it has 😢
@cybereye2
@cybereye2 Жыл бұрын
Marianna great to hear from you again and Ty for clearing this matter up simply and completely, God Bless you and all whom you hold close to your heart.
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
@BrianO'Neill It's good to hear from you, too! Thank you, too, for your appreciation of the Truth of Fatima and for your prayer of God's blessings upon me and mine. I pray the same for you and yours.
@erinmarie99
@erinmarie99 Жыл бұрын
It is so plain and simple! It’s unbelievable that none of these popes can execute such a simple instruction! Is it a desire to be politically correct and not favor “Russia” that holds them back from doing this? I don’t understand!
@Pine_eagle_1985
@Pine_eagle_1985 Жыл бұрын
Popes 😉
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
Very sad.....
@nutran5534
@nutran5534 Жыл бұрын
God bless you for speaking about this🙏😬
@katdunn7934
@katdunn7934 Жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that some Catholics don't believe and even worse, say it was the devil, not our Blessed Mother, who was there. Saying things such as, "how could Mary show children hell?", because it was too scary for little children. If they were there, they'd be mad because their child was shown hell. What a shame.
@lucywork9260
@lucywork9260 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@boulevardofbrokendreams309
@boulevardofbrokendreams309 Жыл бұрын
Lovely podcast! Objective, informative, factual, without space filler and the usual endless shekel grabbing exercises the ecelebs sell. I think I may became a regular listener. Love your tone and delivery, surely all that pleases Our Lady. I will check you others podcasts, books and journey, the background always interest me, as I grow tired of fakes.
@lucywork9260
@lucywork9260 Жыл бұрын
Well that explains alot. Now I know why we are in such trouble.
@mikemurphy9927
@mikemurphy9927 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was done but I guess not ? I don't understand why these Popes can't do something so simple asked by your Blessed Mother - Listen To Your Blessed Mother and not Man .
@salvadoralmeida7294
@salvadoralmeida7294 Жыл бұрын
You are right. The popes have let Our Lady down, and all Catholucs as well. They preferred to listen to their advisers rather than to instructions from heaven. Catholics should acknowledge this is sheer disobedience.
@johnnyproctor
@johnnyproctor Жыл бұрын
Thank God for Marianna! 🙏
@ericpowell7547
@ericpowell7547 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that last consecration didn't seem to stick. It's over a 100 years later, our necks are as stiff as ever. Forgive us Lord.
@ellamae6360
@ellamae6360 Жыл бұрын
Hello. I agree that the formula that mama Mary said wasn’t followed. And even if it was said properly now it was too late. Our Lady is so sad and disappointed that her instructions were followed. What people don’t realise is that the sins of Russia (communism) has already spread. In terms of annihilation of countries… it has actually happened and people don’t know it. Many small nations are now under Communism (by the CCP) including Tibet, Cambodia, HongKong etc. the CCP is controlling the economy of many nations and is slowly infiltrating South America and Africa. You all have to look deeper into the political change that is happening in the world. A few years ago, Russia has committed itself militarily and economically to China. Both are now so close that it is alarming. Russia is recently moving nuclear missiles to Turkey and China is increasing it’s military activities in South East asia. Pray, pray and pray!!!!
@eileenhartmaher5444
@eileenhartmaher5444 Жыл бұрын
RUSSIA WILL BE THE INSTRUMENT OF CHASTISEMENT CHOSEN BY HEAVEN TO PUNISH A WORLD FULL OF SIN 'OUR LADY OF FATIMA 1917.
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
@Ellamae This special episode provides a few proofs that the consecration will never be "too late," including what Our Lord said, "It will *never* be too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary." Please know that the Fatima Center (FC) has, from its beginning, kept a keen eye on worldwide developments and in various ways shared that news. For example, you might want to see the "Church and State" videos, website, etc. The Fatima Center is thus aware of Russia's errors (plural), meaning those errors are not limited to communism but also include many others. In fact, FC also has---in articles, videos, and at various conferences---reported and commented on those errors. Moreover, if I may, the word "annihilation" is not synonymous with "assimilation" or "annexation" of nations. What you have mentioned regarding the countries are cases of assimilation or annexation. Annihilation means complete destruction or obliteration. Thank you for the urging of prayer. As Our Lady said at every Fatima apparition, the prayer for which She asks is the daily Rosary. God bless!
@IrenaRudenco
@IrenaRudenco 2 ай бұрын
😮😮😮😢😢😢​@@eileenhartmaher5444
@villagecottage2418
@villagecottage2418 Жыл бұрын
My favorite saying lately is "nobody does their job anymore." It looks like it is true in the church. I don't understand why the consecration was not done at once. I feel great frustration over this. It's not like I can force the Pope to do this. And I can't do it myself. I keep praying. Lord Jesus please bless us.
@salliemae9284
@salliemae9284 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sister in Christ Marianna in sharing these .I continue to pray that Pope Francis and all bishops will convene together and do the consecration of Russia alone to the Immaculate Heart of Mary . . If only the highest head of Catholic faith and the bishops have listened to the message of God through the Blessed Virgin maybe World war 2 could have been avoided .as Roman Catholic I just have to continue praying the Holy Rosary everyday , go to confession every first Saturday of the month . And I just have to pray The Novena to our Lady of Fatima for 9 consecutive days which I started 2 days ago. And you mentioned the commandments of Father God found in Exodus 20:2-17 . And Jesus has commandments too found in John 13:31-35.If only we follow those commandments our world will be peaceful and we all live in unity harmony and tranquility .
@davegaetano7118
@davegaetano7118 Жыл бұрын
How could things have possibly worked out for the worse if the popes had simply done the consecration right?
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
@DavidGaetano Indeed, how much better for the salvation of souls will be the promised worldwide era of peace---a peace which only God can bestow! Thanks and God bless.
@davegaetano7118
@davegaetano7118 Жыл бұрын
@@genesis_315 I really think that the promised peace Is our only hope. But I do wonder how much worse things will have to get before it comes.
@maxe_faxe
@maxe_faxe Жыл бұрын
In my humble observation, as I am absorbing this for only the second time, from this and one other source, men of ages continue to cling to pride, while dismissing or ignoring truly holy women of ages.
@maureen5132
@maureen5132 Жыл бұрын
We reap what we sow. Our blessed Lady has been ignored and now we are reaping that insult directed at her. Do the bishops and the Pope including past Popes not believe in her request?
@willys2747
@willys2747 Жыл бұрын
Even if the consecration were for Russia alone, the pope must personally promise to save by this means.
@melindedemmers264
@melindedemmers264 Жыл бұрын
What is or could be the reason behind the clear reluctance of the consecutive popes to fulfil the request of Our Blessed Mother Mary? 🤷🏼‍♀️
@femaleKCRoyalsFan
@femaleKCRoyalsFan Жыл бұрын
JP2 almost did it in `84 but I suspect the lack of mention of Russia was his advisors did not want to offend the communists.
@melindedemmers264
@melindedemmers264 Жыл бұрын
@@femaleKCRoyalsFan OK, thanks for your reply. At the time I was not aware of the request of Our Lady of Fatima. The ‘hesitancy’/reluctance to fulfil Our Lady of Fatima’s request strikes me as odd; it seems as if the top clergy are unwilling to obey. Time for the Church to be transparent about this 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼.
@Pine_eagle_1985
@Pine_eagle_1985 Жыл бұрын
Odd indeed. 😞
@robertpatlovany1107
@robertpatlovany1107 Жыл бұрын
Pride. The only reason. The only explanation. Lucifer became Satan for lacking future honor of a woman. Popes likewise for the same reason fail to obey the Number One creature above all humans and angels. Temporary popes think they are above the Mother of the Church for 2000 years and forever. Pride. False Pride. Spiritual misogyny.
@1TheLove1ofWisdom1
@1TheLove1ofWisdom1 Жыл бұрын
Can you please provide the source for Sr. Lucia saying " Russia, and Russia alone, without any additions" is meant to be the object of the consecration?
@TheFatimaCenter
@TheFatimaCenter Жыл бұрын
A few days before the 1984 consecration of the world, Sr. Lucy (having read the text that the Pope would use) pointed out its defects: "Russia does not appear clearly as the only object of the Consecration. ... This consecration cannot have a decisive character." (Published by Fr. Pierre Caillon, The Seers of Fatima, January-April 1984.)
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
@theloveofwisdom Hello, and thank you for your sincere inquiry. Marianna here. Following is the complete quote from my written timeline (source follows): > The source is "Fatima: Prophecies of Tragedy and Triumph" by Frère François de Marie des Anges.
@1TheLove1ofWisdom1
@1TheLove1ofWisdom1 Жыл бұрын
@@genesis_315 thanks so much. I own this book. Can you please provide a page number?
@TheFatimaCenter
@TheFatimaCenter Жыл бұрын
@@1TheLove1ofWisdom1 Page 164.
@nightshift4587
@nightshift4587 Жыл бұрын
I see you have an interest in the Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe. I not making a claim about what I'm seeing on the left arm of the angle with its arms out stretched. The left arm as I see it has some legible text there that to me looks like numbers and text. I wont say what I'm seeing. It would be an interesting exercise to see what or if anyone else sees anything there.
@suzannespanier4492
@suzannespanier4492 Жыл бұрын
What does it mean to be consecrated..as a whole..exactly?
@TheFatimaCenter
@TheFatimaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this important question. To consecrate something is to set it apart from all other such things, dedicating it to a holy and sacred purpose. Sister Lucia, who had been one of the children-seers of the Fatima apparitions, described Our Lady's formal request for the Consecration of Russia in these words: "Our Lady said, 'The moment has come in which God asks of the Holy Father to make, and to order that in union with him and at the same time, all the bishops of the world make the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart,' promising to convert it because of this day of prayer and worldwide reparation." This consecration itself would take the form of a brief prayer led by the Pope, to which all the Catholic bishops of the world join themselves either in person present with him or from their own cathedrals in a separate solemn and public ceremony taking place at the same time. In this regard, Sister Lucia clarified to Fr. Pierre Caillon (the head of the Blue Army in France), “So that the bishops of the world be united to the Pope in this Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the Pope must either convoke all the bishops to Rome, or to another place - to Tuy for example - or else order the bishops of the entire world to organize, each in his own cathedral, a solemn and public ceremony of Reparation and of Consecration of Russia to the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary.” This second solution had the preference of Sister Lucia. In that case, the Pope must fix in advance, the DAY and the HOUR of this Consecration. Sister Lucia remarked that it would be easy for the bishops to accomplish this Consecration exactly at the same time all over the face of the earth. As she explained, “It is certain that there are twenty-four time zones around the world, but certain bishops could make the Consecration at night during the course of a Vigil of Prayer.” Russia is to be clearly and explicitly identified as the object of the act, which, as a well-known Fatima scholar has described it, is to be “a solemn and public act of reparation [to the Immaculate Heart of Mary] for the acts of wickedness and the crimes committed in that country.” By its consecration, the Russian nation will be set apart and specially dedicated to the service of Our Lady's Immaculate Heart, to fit it for a unique and instrumental role in Her coming Triumph over the evils and errors of our time - much as in biblical times when David, by virtue of his consecration by the prophet Samuel, was able to bare-handedly kill a lion and a bear and to successfully overcome Goliath (1 Kings 16, 17), and as Barnabas and Saul were fitted for their apostolic mission by their consecration as bishops: “Separate me Saul and Barnabas, for the work whereunto I have taken them.” (Acts 13:2) God bless you.
@IrenaRudenco
@IrenaRudenco 2 ай бұрын
​@TheFatimaCwenter wow,thank You so much❤❤❤
@IrenaRudenco
@IrenaRudenco 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheFatimaCenteris IT possible or does anybody know about consecration of Romania to the Imaculate Heart of Mary,when Pope JP2 visited us?( I was there,very,very beautiful,Divine) I wish...but we Have those prayers,too,everybody knows them,they used to learn at schools when my parents were Little children
@emilirocamora3298
@emilirocamora3298 Жыл бұрын
louis XVI of france discovered that they were TOO LATE in the consecration of their crown...they did NOT ....Louis XIV....ignored the request from heaven through a very holy saint...think it was saint margaret mary alacoque😢
@oledocfarmer
@oledocfarmer Жыл бұрын
Annihilation of nations? South Vietnam? Eastern Europe (more a functional annihilation I'd argue)...there prob are more.
@IrenaRudenco
@IrenaRudenco 2 ай бұрын
😮😮😮😢❤
@catholic3dod790
@catholic3dod790 Жыл бұрын
Popes failed to consecrate of Russia. 1. World in 1942 2. Russia without Bishops in 1952 3. World in 1960's 4. World in 1982 5. World in 1984 6. World in 2000 7. Trust in 2013 8. Russia and Ukraine in 2022 9. ??? Russia is alone word by Pope and all bishops. Period.
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
14 goof ups in total
@catholic3dod790
@catholic3dod790 Жыл бұрын
@@quiricomazarin476 Oyi, mexicano...what denomination are you?
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
@@catholic3dod790 catholic nien denomination, muy cathalico. ☘
@catholic3dod790
@catholic3dod790 Жыл бұрын
@@quiricomazarin476 Bad grammars!!!
@p.netter8509
@p.netter8509 Жыл бұрын
By this time, the errors of Russia have already spread outside of Russia so the "Russia alone" doesn't apply anymore. Note the change in Sr. Lucia's request ( Tuy, Spain, 2nd of December of 1940): "In several intimate communications our Lord has not stopped insisting on this request, promising lately, to shorten the days of tribulation which He has determined to punish the nations for their crimes, through war, famine and several persecutions of the Holy Church and Your Holiness, if you will consecrate the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, with a special mention for Russia, and order that all the Bishops of the world do the same in union with Your Holiness. I truly feel your sufferings, Most Holy Father! And, at much as I can through my humble prayers and sacrifices, I try to lessen them, close to our Lord and the Immaculate Heart of Mary." (from the 1940 Letter of Sr. Lucia to Pope Pius XII)
@TheFatimaCenter
@TheFatimaCenter Жыл бұрын
(1/2) Thank you for your comment. With all respect, such a misrepresentation of the events vindicates Sister Lucy's greatest fears of the confusion that would ensue from her involvement in the matter of this request, which was not the Fatima request. Let's be clear about the true circumstances of Heaven's request for the consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. In March 1939, as the Second World War drew imminently near and neither of Our Lady of Fatima's requests (for the First Saturday Communions of Reparation and for the Consecration of Russia) were being acted upon, Our Lord urged Sister Lucia: "Ask, ask again insistently for the promulgation of the Communion of Reparation in honor of the Immaculate Heart of Mary on the First Saturdays. The time is coming when the rigor of My justice will punish the crimes of diverse nations. Some of them will be annihilated. At last the severity of My justice will fall severely on those who want to destroy My reign in souls." (Martins, Documentos p. 465; Michel vol. II p. 685) But Sister Lucia's repeated appeals were still unsuccessful. We should thank Our Lord for His great mercy, that (perhaps anticipating these deadly delays, and desiring at the same to answer the many prayers and sacrifices that were being offered for the intention of these requests of Our Lady of Fatima) He provided another means of averting some of the rigor of His justice. This came through another Portuguese mystic, Blessed Alexandrina da Costa, a contemporary of Sister Lucia. As a young woman, Alexandrina had been attacked by several men. She jumped from a window in order to escape them, suffering a broken spine as a result of the fall. Throughout the remaining thirty years of her life she was confined to her bed. In the tenth year of this confinement, on August 1, 1935, Our Lord communicated to her a request for the consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary: "Once I asked for the consecration of the human race to My Divine Heart. Now I ask for the same to the Immaculate Heart of My Most Holy Mother." (Michel vol. II p. 682. Our Lord refers to Sr. Mary of the Divine Heart, +1899, a religious of the Good Shepherd and member of the Drost-zu-Vischering family. At her proposal, Pope Leo XIII solemnly consecrated all mankind to the Sacred Heart of Jesus on June 11, 1899, and referred to this event as "the great act" of his pontificate. Sr. Mary of the Divine Heart died just two days before this consecration, on the feast of the Sacred Heart.) Sister Lucia's confessor, Don Manuel Ferreira (the Bishop of Gurza) knew that this request of Our Lord through Alexandrina da Costa was favorably looked upon in the Vatican, particularly by Pope Pius XII, who (as Cardinal Pacelli) had been closely involved in its investigation. Bishop Ferreira, then, having worked for years to persuade the Pope to make the Consecration of Russia as requested by Our Lady of Fatima, without any success, judged that the Fatima request had no chance of being favorably received in Rome unless it were modified to fit into the 1935 appeal from Our Lord to Alexandrina. He therefore ordered Sister Lucy to ask the Pope to consecrate the world, "with a special mention of Russia," to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Sister Lucia was greatly disturbed by this order. Bound to obey her confessor, she also realized the inevitable confusion that would come from her own involvement in an initiative that would likely result in a distortion of the Message of Fatima. On October 24, 1940, at a loss for how to proceed, she spent two hours before Our Lord exposed in the Blessed Sacrament, pleading for guidance, and received this reply: "Pray for the Holy Father, sacrifice yourself so that his courage does not succumb under the bitterness that oppresses him. The tribulation will continue and augment. I will punish the nations for their crimes by war, famine, and persecution of my Church, and this will weigh especially upon my Vicar on earth. His Holiness will obtain an abbreviation of these days of tribulation if he takes heed of my wishes by promulgating the Act of Consecration of the whole world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, with a special mention of Russia." (Martins, Documentos p. 467; Michel vol. II, p. 732) Thus it was indeed God's will, Sister Lucy learned, that she ask the Pope for the consecration of the world. This consecration, however, was not to be confused with the Consecration sought by Our Lady of Fatima, which will bring a definitive end to present chastisements and usher in the epochal Triumph of the Immaculate Heart through miraculous graces of conversion and peace throughout the world. Rather, Our Lord's object in His request for the consecration of the world was merely to shorten the duration of the Second World War: "His Holiness will obtain an abbreviation of these days of tribulation..." The distinction between these two consecrations was further emphasized by another communication which Sister Lucia received from Our Lord two years later, shortly after Pius XII had at last made that consecration of the world on October 31, 1942. Speaking to Lucia during a Thursday night holy-hour between 11 p.m. and midnight within the first few months after that consecration, Our Lord told Sister Lucia of the joy this consecration had brought to His Heart. He also renewed His promise to turn the course of the war in response to the Pope's act. But the conversion of Russia and the peace of the world would still await the fulfillment of Our Lady of Fatima's request for the Consecration of Russia. Sister Lucia wrote to her confessor: "The Good Lord has already shown me His contentment with the act performed by the Holy Father and several bishops, although it was incomplete according to His desire. In return, He promises to end the war soon. The conversion of Russia is not for now." (Letter of February 28, 1943 to Archbishop Don Manuel Ferreira, Bishop of Gurza. Martins, Fatima e o Coraçao de Maria, pp. 104-105; Michel vol. III, p. 18) Thus it was clear - and should still be clear, whenever someone tries to suggest that a consecration of the world would satisfy the Fatima request -- that Heaven regards these two distinct requests without any confusion. They were different requests, for different ends. Our Lady of Fatima's request for the Consecration of Russia is Our Lord's inflexible will for His Church, without which He absolutely will not grant the conversion of Russia or peace in the world. Our Lord's request for the consecration of the world was a distinct, interim measure by which the length (and possibly the projected outcome) of World War II was mercifully changed. We can read in Winston Churchill's history of the Second World War, in his volume titled The Hinge of Fate, how Our Lord kept His promise. The war would go on for another two years, but Pope Pius XII's October 31, 1942 consecration of the world marked its clear turning point. Until that time, the Allies had been consistently losing its battles against the Axis powers, whereas after the consecration the Allies began consistently to win them. Churchill wrote, "I have called this The Hinge of Fate because in it we turn from almost uninterrupted disaster to almost unbroken success. For the first six months of this story all went ill; for the last six months everything went well. And this agreeable change continued to the end of the struggle." (Sir Winston Churchill, The Second World War, Vol. 4, Houghton Mifflin, 1950, p. 33)
@TheFatimaCenter
@TheFatimaCenter Жыл бұрын
(2/2) But as Sister Lucy rightly feared, her involvement in the request for the consecration of the world had lent weight to the inevitable misunderstanding and confusion that immediately began to surround this point. She was interviewed by the eminent historian and author William Thomas Walsh on July 15, 1946, and he was very faithful to her wish to clarify Our Lady's request. He wrote: "Lucia made it plain that Our Lady did not ask for the consecration of the world to Her Immaculate Heart. What She demanded specifically was the consecration of Russia.... She said more than once with deliberate emphasis: `What Our Lady wants is that the Pope and all the bishops in the world shall consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart on one special day. If this is done, She will convert Russia and there will be peace. If it is not done, the errors of Russia will spread through every country in the world.'" Professor Walsh asked Sister Lucia to what extent those errors of Russia would spread (barring Our Lady's intervention, when Her requests were granted). Did Lucy think that the whole world would be overrun by Communism? Sister Lucy said, flatly, "Yes." Mr. Walsh thought that perhaps Lucy hadn't understood the question. Father Manuel Rocha, who served as Professor Walsh's translator, relates that Mr. Walsh asked him to repeat the question, this time asking her specifically if she meant to include the United States of America in her answer. Lucy said again simply, "Yes." Walsh: Does this mean, in your opinion, that every country, without exception, will be overcome by Communism? Lucy: Yes. Walsh: And does that mean the United States of America, too? Lucy: Yes. (William Thomas Walsh, Our Lady of Fatima, MacMillan Co., New York, 1947, p. 226; and Louis Kaczmarek, The Wonders She Performs, Trinity Communications, 1986, p. 160) One of Lucia's most emphatic attempts to clarify Our Lady's request for the Consecration of Russia and settle the confusion occasioned by Pius XII's recent consecration of the world, was recorded by the American sculptor who carved the statue of Our Lady on the great façade of the basilica at Fatima, Father Thomas McGlynn, O.P. In the course of his work on the statue, he had many opportunities to speak with Sister Lucia, and he wrote a book in 1949 about his visits with her. He notes that at one point in their discussions she interrupted him energetically to correct him about this very point. He had been reading aloud to her the text of the first two parts of the Secret, phrased as if Our Lady had said, "I ask for the consecration of the world...." She stopped him at once, saying, "No! Not the world! Russia! Russia!" (Fr. Thomas McGlynn, O.P., Vision of Fatima, Little, Brown & Co., Boston, 1948, p. 213) Father Umberto Maria Pasquale, a Salesian priest who had been a confidant of Sister Lucia since 1939, was another to question her on this matter. In an interview of August 5, 1978, Sister Lucia told Father Umberto in no uncertain terms that Our Lady had not requested the consecration of the world in general, but of Russia specifically, and only Russia. Father Umberto writes: "At a certain moment I said to her: `Sister, I should like to ask you a question. If you cannot answer me, let it be. But if you can answer it, I would be most grateful to you. ... Has Our Lady ever spoken to you about the consecration of the world to Her Immaculate Heart?'" "NO, Father Umberto! NEVER! At the Cova da Iria in 1917, Our Lady had promised: `I SHALL COME TO ASK FOR THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA.' ... In 1929, at Tuy, as She had promised, Our Lady came back to tell me that the moment had come to ask the Holy Father for the consecration of THAT COUNTRY [Russia]." (Published in L'Osservatore Romano, Italian edition, May 12, 1982. Cf. Frère François de Marie des Anges, Fatima: Tragedy and Triumph, Immaculate Heart Publications, 1994, p. 218. Emphasis in original.) After this conversation, Father Umberto asked Sister Lucy to put this clarification in writing. She responded with a handwritten signed note, which was duly published in a 1980 pamphlet produced by Cavaleiro da Imaculado, establishing beyond any doubt that the consecration of the world would not suffice to fulfill Our Lady's request at Fatima. Her note reads: "Reverend Father Umberto, In replying to your question, I will clarify: Our Lady of Fatima, in Her request, referred only to the consecration of Russia. "In the letter which I wrote to the Holy Father Pius XII - at the direction of my confessor - I asked for the consecration of the world with explicit mention of Russia. Yours devotedly and in union of prayers. Coimbra, April 13, 1980." A photostatic copy of the pertinent portion of this note is reproduced on The Fatima Center's website on page 9 of the document here: web.archive.org/web/20170702143910/www.fatima.org/news/newsviews/newsviews120313.pdf Here Sister Lucy confirms to the whole Church, in an indisputable signed document in her own handwriting, that the consecration of the world is extraneous to the Message of Fatima, and that her own role in urging Pope Pius XII to make a consecration of the world had been prompted not by Our Lady of Fatima, but by the order of her confessor. But in fact this distinction had already been confirmed most emphatically by Our Lady of Fatima Herself. Speaking to Sister Lucia in May of 1952 - almost ten years after Pope Pius XII's 1942 consecration of the world - Our Lady gave her this message for the Pope: "Make it known to the Holy Father that I still await the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart. Without this consecration Russia cannot be converted, nor can the world have peace." (Published in the Italian bishops' journal, Il pellegrinaggio delle meraviglie, 1960, p. 440; cited in Frere Michel, vol. III, p. 327) God bless you.
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFatimaCenter Just a comment & no disrespect on the work for God you do at the fatima centre, understood you use historical events to explain things. But do you need to quote from that stonecutter~ heretic & Genocidal satanic war crimminal churchell.
@confiteorde
@confiteorde Жыл бұрын
@@TheFatimaCenter I have a friend who joined a sect where they teach that the name "Jesus" is the name of a demon created by the catholic church. And the proof of this is that the original names are yeshua or yaohushua and if you call another names God will not hear you. With a simple translation trick the "evil catholic church" blocked humanity from having access to God. They see God as a grammatical idol and you have as shallow a spiritual understanding as they do. I say more, the consecration was done twice. The first done imperfectly, in 1984, having the effect of delaying the chastisement, not mentioning Russia, and now in 2022 mentioning Russia and doing the full Consecration with all the bishops of the world. Two separate acts that in eternity are one.
@najafi464
@najafi464 Жыл бұрын
Most accurate comment ever! Nobody is praying daily around me any more. Nobody. Errors have spread definitely.
@AnneFallible
@AnneFallible Жыл бұрын
Fatima and Francis fatigue. Make it stop, Lord.
@albertpost-wx7tb
@albertpost-wx7tb Жыл бұрын
Mary specifically said she is asking the pope with the bishops to consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart. This means it is a request and not a command. Therefore the pope can only invite and not command or demand that the bishops join him in the consecration seeing it is only a request. Also we are talking about private revelation and therefore the request doesn't have the power or authority of dogma or even doctrine that needs to be obeyed since no one, not even a bishop has to accept a private revelation to be in good standing with the Church. Likewise Mary merely ask that the faithful do the first 5 Saturday devotion. There was never any command given that the pope had to officially promulgate or declare that all faithful do the first 5 Saturday devotion. Likewise Mary asked for the consecration of Russia. She did nor specify that it must only be Russia. Besides eastern Ukraine have more Russians than Ukrainians meaning that a case can be made that Ukraine is and was part of Russia. Since our Lady didn't specify only Russia it allows for several countries to be mentioned alongside Russia as long as Russia is mentioned. No wonder that the pope and bishops still have not fulfilled the command since there was no command given, but only a request. A request doesn't have the force of law behind it like a command does. So based on this difference the consecration request has been fulfilled last year. If we don't have peace yet it is because it was done so late. At least we know that peace will come and the world won't be destroyed as what would have happened if the consecration wasn't done last year.
@alexisrodrigues4767
@alexisrodrigues4767 Жыл бұрын
Our Lady did not command but instructed what should be done. What happens if not done, we will have the consequences, and those have happened all around us. The consecration was not done since the very start for fear of USSR and then for the reasons of Church going astray from its true path. Now we all reap the harvest. No need to cry, just enjoy the fruits.
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexisrodrigues4767 & @AlbertPost The Virgin Mary, speaking in Portuguese, used the word "pedido." The English translations of this one word are many. It is the *order* or *command* of a superior to a subordinate; a polite "request," and more. The Virgin Mary, as Mother and Queen of the Church, has the right and authority to command the Church. As she is Virgin Most Amiable, her commands are gently but directly made. In fact, Pope Pius XII expressed the depths of the mysteries that Jesus is King and Mary is Queen, in the following way: “Jesus is king of the Eternal Ages by nature and by right of conquest; through Him, with Him, and subordinate to Him, Mary is Queen by grace, by divine relationship, by right of conquest and by singular election. And her kingdom is as vast as that of her Son and God, since nothing is excluded from her dominion.”
@genesis_315
@genesis_315 Жыл бұрын
@Albert Post Yes, the papal promulgation of the Five First Saturdays is another command. It is historically documented in the greater amount of Fatima literature.
@femaleKCRoyalsFan
@femaleKCRoyalsFan Жыл бұрын
King of France disobeyed Jesus request to consecrate France to his sacred heart in 1689....100 years later the evil French revolution happened.
@alexisrodrigues4767
@alexisrodrigues4767 Жыл бұрын
@@genesis_315 I will not dispute if it is order or command. I will be humble to accept it.
@justthink8952
@justthink8952 Жыл бұрын
The Pope consecrated Russia and Ukraine. And when Russia invaded Ukraine to claim parts of the territory occupied by majority speaking Russian, the pope won't recognise these territories of Ukraine as Russia. So why did he consecrate Russia and Ukraine?
@michaelverbakel7632
@michaelverbakel7632 Жыл бұрын
I knew that when Pope Francis consecrated Russia and Ukraine last year that it was going to fail. Ukraine was never supposed to be mentioned by Our Lady in the original Consecration at Fatima.
@allenwinston9225
@allenwinston9225 Жыл бұрын
It took place last year 3/25/22.
@CG-dl5cj
@CG-dl5cj Жыл бұрын
There would not be a war in Ukraine/Russia right now if the consecration was done properly.
@helenamrowka7592
@helenamrowka7592 Жыл бұрын
If was not done correctly! Only Russia! Why are they not listening mother of God?????
@allenwinston9225
@allenwinston9225 Жыл бұрын
Friends Even on this Channel they covered this and said it was good enough with a live feed.
@oledocfarmer
@oledocfarmer Жыл бұрын
If Francis is not the Pope (and there are strong LEGAL -- not legalistic -- arguments that he is not the Pope), the "consecration" was not done.
@robertpatlovany1107
@robertpatlovany1107 Жыл бұрын
His actions corroborate legal shortcomings, from the rotten, putrid fruit of a tree known by its fruit. Recall Jesus cursing the fig tree lacking fruit. Imagine his curse upon a fig tree supporting clot shots as "an act of love."
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