Sixty-year-old T-62s to become main battle tanks of Russian army, T-72 and T-90 tanks are missing

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Sixty-year-old T-62s to become main battle tanks of Russian army, T-72 and T-90 tanks are missing

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The analyst carefully studied satellite images, calculated the numbers and came to a startling conclusion. Twenty-eight months of heavy fighting in Ukraine have radically changed the tank corps of the Russian army, writes Forbes.
The army has lost so many modern tanks that the only way it can even come close to maintaining its front-line strength of 3,000 tanks is to pull more 1960s-era T-62s out of long-term storage, the analyst of Forbes said.
"In my opinion, it is likely that we will see more T-62s in the future and they will probably be one of the main tank types in the Russian army," he wrote after comparing T-62 inventories with those of the older T-55 tanks and the newer T-72, T-80 and T-90.
The advantage of the 41-ton, four-man T-62s is that they are numerous and, compared with newer tanks, relatively simple, making them more economical to rebuild and repair after decades of open storage. The 103rd Armored Repair Plant in Siberia, along with other factories, "appear to have built up significant capacity to repair this type," the analyst noted.
It is argued that this transition - from modern T-72s, T-80s and T-90s to ageing T-62s - is an ominous sign for the Russian army as its attacks in Ukraine turn bloody.
The numbers show how the Russians got to this point. In February 2022, the Russian army entered the war in Ukraine with about 2,100 late-model T-72s, 500 modern T-80s, and 400 T-90s.
But Ukraine’s mines, drones, artillery, and anti-tank missiles have taken their toll. Analysts have counted 3,000 Russian tanks destroyed, abandoned, or captured. That’s the entire pre-war force, and the losses are disproportionately in modern tanks rather than the older T-55s and T-62s that the Russians began pulling out of open tank parks soon after the war escalated.
No one outside the Kremlin knows for sure how many new tanks Russian factories produce each year, but well-informed estimates put the number at between 500 and 600. That's not enough new tanks to replace all the tanks lost, so the balance is made up of old Cold War stockpiles.
In 2022, these stockpiles were significant. According to a study of satellite images, they included 6,200 tanks. The dominant types were 1,800 T-62s, 2,000 older T-72s, and 1,400 early-model T-80s.
Just over two years later, the Russians had brought in about 700 T-62s, 500 T-72s, and 1,100 T-80s for repairs. That they neglected about a thousand T-72 Urals and T-72As from the early 1970s may have something to do with the tanks' finicky autoloaders.
Stockpiles of T-80s and newer T-72s are running low, but there are still 1,100 T-62s waiting to be refurbished and given a second chance to fight. As production of new tanks continues to lag due to a lack of money, labor, and spare parts, these 1960s-era T-62s will play an increasingly important role in the Russian military in the mid-2020s.
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@RobinSmith20 Ай бұрын

The only reason they are still usable is because they are so old, they never had modern electronics in thermal sights or laser range finders etc. so there was nothing to strip out so it could be melted down to recover the gold. Forget General Winter, Field Marshall Corruption is the MVP in this war.

@prozrel_ Ай бұрын

Когда начался выпуск абрамсов?

@RobinSmith20 Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_ Not sure what the M1 Abrams has to do with widespread and endemic corruption in the Russian military but ok. Maybe you should be wondering about why Putin is the wealthiest man in the world with 2 mega yachts, numerous mansions and billions in the bank and you’ll never be more than a peasant living in poverty ?

@CoffeeAndPaul Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_, back in the Seventies, but OP is still right. Also, Russia did similar to what the US did with the Abrams by keeping & using the T-72 chassis design for later models like the T-90. Sort of. They Russians did not do what the US did & constantly work to improve the basic, M1A1 design AND its overall production process. An M1A2 SEPv3 doesn't just have superior systems over the original, it's manufactured using technologies the original builders at Chrysler wouldn't see exist until at least 15 Years had passed.

@gullreefclub Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_The M1 initial design phase started in 1972 with the initial design phase lasting until 1975 because the US knew the M-60 tank design was extremely dated. The M1 Abrams went into production in 1979 and into service in 1980 and the upgraded M1A1 and later to the M1A2 variant

@prozrel_ Ай бұрын

@@gullreefclub 1972 so modern...

@user-bd6cr4ni8t Ай бұрын

The metal recyclers are getting excited

@Firme-2-Ware Ай бұрын

L'abondance tue le commerce! Abundance kills trade!

@jamesschenk Ай бұрын

I wonder how many cars can be made from all those burned out Russian and Ukrainian tanks

@dennisyoung4631 Ай бұрын

A great deal of reinforcing wire/rod, for rebuilding…?

@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 Ай бұрын

@@dennisyoung4631 Bingo, tanks to rebar.

@bettiebundy Ай бұрын

How’s that great counter offensive going?

@robertfarr9186 Ай бұрын

It’s ok soon they will have the super modern 1950s tanks from NK

@u.s.1974 Ай бұрын

So the Leopard 1 is no longer that outdated. The cat can hunt it's prime prey.

@jamesschenk Ай бұрын

Those tanks should be put in a museum not on the battle field

@CoffeeAndPaul Ай бұрын

These still seem to retain the majority of their functions. That's the ~F>~50% performance standard in any professional military's force replenishment equation. I understand that these tanks are probably a bitch to operate & probably have moody engines, slow mobility, & gaping weak points, but come on, the US Army still keeps a "strategic" reserve of M60 tanks & that tank type served in the Korean War which was a looooooooong time ago. The more that I come to understand about this War the more I similarly come to understand some of the Pentagon's more seemingly wacky actions related to Army force preservations & retentions. M60's just sitting around chillin' in the desert seemed like a waste of money to me. But maybe it's not.

@davidellis4084 Ай бұрын

They are moving coffins. 😞

@burnttoaster6313 Ай бұрын

@@davidellis4084surprisingly your more likely to survive and escape from a tank than a regular infantry man in this war

Ай бұрын

@burnttoaster6313 You're more likely to be targeted if you're in a tank than hidden in the trees.

@edb3877 Ай бұрын

Imagine being a Russian tanker and having to serve in a tank that was older than your dad. 😒 No doubt, the lifetime of these old tanks on the modern battlefield will be very very short. ☠

@MsMsmak Ай бұрын

I wonder how Russian soldiers feel about these.

@gluteusmaximus1657 Ай бұрын

Will we see T-34 soon in the warzone?

@dennisyoung4631 Ай бұрын

Do they have those in any numbers?

@Lisa-vd5vu Ай бұрын

@@dennisyoung4631 they have thousands of them all over the country as part of war memorials. They are usually permanently placed on stone or cement plinths and likely had their engines removed and guns demilitarized for prevention of armed uprisings. What shape they’re in after half a century of Russian weather isn’t hard to guess. They likely could be restored to some degree but the cost would be prohibitive.

@dennisyoung4631 Ай бұрын

@@gluteusmaximus1657 hopefully, they will include the *mallet.* The T-34’s transmission, especially in the earliest ones, was sometimes disinclined to *shift.*

@anthonycoon6955 29 күн бұрын

The t54 was designed in 1946 t34 was 1934 thats over a decade difference @@It-che-Pu-whole

@It-che-Pu-whole 29 күн бұрын

@@anthonycoon6955 I know that .Thats what I ment by "a few years".

@user-gj1np8zd5t Ай бұрын

The other problem for the Russians is that the T72s in storage is that they were stripped for spares by corrupt members of the Russian military with the parts then sold to non Russian users of T72s.

@wayracz6691 Ай бұрын

what a joke! t-62 I thought I was old

@user-tr9gj4it4l Ай бұрын

Пользы от них столько же, сколько от Абрамсов

@yourstruly4817 Ай бұрын

@@user-tr9gj4it4lin your dreams, Boris

@cristo6007 Ай бұрын

Horseback and catapults here we come 😂

@sergiytokio7295 Ай бұрын

Не хотел бы я быть танкистом на таких танках, это почти самоубийство.

@QuercusQuest Ай бұрын

😂

@user-fv5ms4sz8e Ай бұрын

It's armored and it shoots, so it may be old, but it can still pose a threat.

@DarkCriimes Ай бұрын

Museum pieces that have been badly maintained or not maintained at all knowing the russian military.

@richlopez5896 Ай бұрын

It can be taken out by a simple RPG and is extremely likely to break down on the battlefield or on the way to it. The biggest threat it poses is to its crew tbh.

@Baebon6259 Ай бұрын

if only these can shoot safely...Let's be honest here, if America struggles with maintaining military equipment/ships...I don't think Russia can, especially with its smaller budget. Russia inherited the classic Soviet approach. Spend money on developing weapons but not put some of that toward maintenance.

@Wertyingf Ай бұрын

Even obsolete equipment can kill very effectively

@gutstompenrocker Ай бұрын

Same can be said about my old tool too.

@christopherlng753 Ай бұрын

Wonder if they just going to slap a barn on top of those :0

@denisoko8494 Ай бұрын

Russians like WWI tank cosplay!

@chriskoort5717 Ай бұрын

Quite soon we'll see Russians using M4 Shermans that were lend-leased by yanks during WW2.

@TheFrewah Ай бұрын

And not paid for, I think

@Firme-2-Ware Ай бұрын

@@TheFrewah In 41, the Russians were really pitiful. You don't get money for doing something for charity!

@jamesschenk Ай бұрын

They never gave us back the money cheap skates

@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258 Ай бұрын

They'll be using their ancient T-26 tanks...

@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258 Ай бұрын

@Firme-2-Ware They were hapless and helpless. Saved by America 🇺🇸

@russellnixon9981 Ай бұрын

Russia just doesn't get it, if they can't win with modern tanks what chance do they think they will with 60 year old ones

@neutronalchemist3241 Ай бұрын

They'll throw more human bodies at the problem, like they always do.

@Jkaninteangemittnamn Ай бұрын

its because they have trained 60+ years old drivers and cannoners to use and trained on them when they did heir tour - thats why you keep old stuff - young are trained at 20 years old and the vechile can be keept in storage until they hit about 70y and become to old to see , walk or move

@julianhardy6886 Ай бұрын

Ukraine has lost

@neutronalchemist3241 Ай бұрын

@@julianhardy6886 It doesn't seem so.

@dalegribble1560 Ай бұрын

@@neutronalchemist3241 That's pretty much how they beat the Nazi German Wermacht and Waffen SS

@DaDom07 Ай бұрын

Thats just ridiculous! 🤦🏼‍♂️😂 Russia go home thats better for all.

@ric247 Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_ Troll

@prozrel_ Ай бұрын

@@ric247 your mommy troll yes

@lingyjennifer8399 Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_ we are home - you're not

@prozrel_ Ай бұрын

@@lingyjennifer8399 go way from my land and house at Ukraine

@lingyjennifer8399 Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_ makes no sense not at all not on your land or country but I support Ukraine Slava Ukraini

@HewJorgan Ай бұрын

The Flintstones model - yabadaba doooo.

@Richard-pe4cx Ай бұрын

doesn't look like the rebuild / refurb has extended to the running of the engine the white smoke is unburnt fuel and the black is bad injectors

@sermandet2022 Ай бұрын

Poopin is enjoying life in his castles

@kentaylor2416 Ай бұрын

Mobile crematoria

@prozrel_ Ай бұрын

@@kentaylor2416 сначала смеялись над этим теперь все делают. Хавайтися наёмники нато и их прихвостни

@Thetequilashooter1 Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_Keep crying, Ivan. Everybody is not using 60 year old tanks. It’s just Russia.

@abcdedfg8340 Ай бұрын

@@prozrel_Are you just trying to avoid being a crew member in those mobile coffins?

@TheBigExclusive Ай бұрын

Newsflash: Drones don't care if your tank is new or old.

@don63 Ай бұрын

We're going Back To The Future

@stanleymcfadden6407 Ай бұрын

Well it will be easy to track these old tanks from all the large black exhaust plumes they put out when they throttle up.

@protorhinocerator142 Ай бұрын

The T-62 is pretty much the Trabant of tanks. The T-64 was much better all around. It was the template for the more modern Russian tanks. There probably aren't enough T-80 tanks left to be of any mention, and that was their best tank. The T-90 is an upgraded T-72 and not as good. The fact that Russia puts any hope at all on the T-62 shows that their military is a hollow force. I can't think of any time NATO ran out of modern weapons and had to revert 60 years. Imagine if WW2 countries in 1942 had to revert back to 1880. That's what we're talking here. This is some severe damage. Russia might as well not have an army.

@StephenGlencross-yg4nt Ай бұрын

Problem here is they still have a powerful gun and can still kill ,, artillery on wheels very dangerous.

@Baebon6259 Ай бұрын

problem here too is that can it still shoot safely. You don't want that rusty barrel blow up when you are inside the tank. If anything, it becomes a liability to the Russians as well.

@user-nf9cc1hi1t Ай бұрын

They will build a massive cage on top, and use them to carry troops like its APC😂😂😂😂, BUT the fatality rate upon drone or artillery hit will be 90%

@MKD-fe5vf Ай бұрын

@@user-nf9cc1hi1t 90% that's an exceptable number for putin.

@pws354_8 Ай бұрын

Yeah, dangerous to the Russians too, because they are so old that it would often force tankers to maintain the tank during frequent mechanical failures or stalls, and even a high school friend of mine noticed how often the Bradley IFV breaks down when it is relatively younger in comparison.

@paulmaul2186 Ай бұрын

I doubt Russia can make 500-600 tanks a year.

@CoffeeAndPaul Ай бұрын

I also doubt this. There's Uralvagonzavod (❤ writing & saying that word) & there's Chelyabinsk Tractor & that's it. Due to the available resources of their factory the boys & girls at Chelyabinsk are stuck refurbishing tanks only, which just leaves Uralvagonzavod. Uralvagonzavod's pre-War, Monthly rate of production was between 12 to 15 tanks per Month. Now they work 24-7 around the clock so that production rate has risen to beyond 20 per Month, maybe 24-25 very tops. Let's be generous & call it 30 which frankly is unrealistically optimistic for even a factory as gigantic as Uralvagonzavod, but let's assume that. While they're building 30 new tanks a Month they're steadily wearing down their tools & dies and overtime production is still bottlenecked by suppliers, factory shop capacity (in other words the number of assembly lines), & the fact that Russia's railroads are maxed out already. People still gotta eat. Russia still has to move lumber, coal, chemicals, finished petroleum products, minerals & metals, and bulk foods for export around. All of that's done by rail in Russia, & all of those materials are just as important to the Russian War effort as those tanks are. None of those materials are economical to move by air or truck, at least not all the way from source to transshipment or final destination, & in any event the Russians are having trouble keeping planes flying reliably. (See the Sukhoi Superjet 100 crash the other day.) This news channel is grouping Chelyabinsk's & others' refurbishments with Uralvagonzavod new builds. 300 new T-90's a Year is the best they can conceivably accomplish with just the one working factory & assuming a perfect supply chain, no shop accidents or drone attacks, & a sufficient workforce for safe, effective working conditions. Chelyabinsk isn't set up for T-90's & reconfiguring, outfitting, & staffing it for that work is a project that will take anyone longer than a Year.

@lanceschaerer6875 Ай бұрын

Its not tank on tank combat so realistically the old T-62s and even T-55s still have a place in that war. New or old they still have a cannon and an mg or 2. And if theyre just gonna get destroyed why not send in the older equipment

@floydfanboy2948 Ай бұрын

You have a point. Tank on tank combat is rare. It's just these T-62 are easier to destroy compared to more modern tanks. But they all get destroyed anyway.

@williamjones7821 Ай бұрын

The USA sent over 100,000 STUDEBAKER trucks to Russia in WW2. They were so durable, that the term "STUDEBAKER" was actually another term for "truck" in the USSR for years afterwards. Will we see these trucks make an appearance? We've already seen the Ukranians remove the roof from 4-door LADAs and put a machine gun in the rear. So anything is possible.

@daviddelgado6090 Ай бұрын

Shoigu really made a number of the war. The new MoD must be regretting he took the job.

@CoffeeAndPaul Ай бұрын

Belousov is just as bad as Shoigu. He was on camera a few days ago threatening some random commissioned officer tasked to build a training barracks or some other training facility with prison time if he didn't keep to schedule. I thought that since Belousov is an economist he might do a better job despite he, too, having no military experience nor training. I'm happy to see that I'm wrong. At least Shoigu knew enough not to shit on his own officers in public. Belousov has no idea that he's collapsing his officers' morale with threats like that.

@daviddelgado6090 Ай бұрын

@@CoffeeAndPaul He shows up, looks at the books, looks at the map, and figures this war is going to bankrupt Russia for decades. Now he's chasing thieves. Russia doesn't have enough jails. Putin's been asleep for too long.

@ramcharger9449 Ай бұрын

Nothing says your winning like having to replace your modern fleet with 60 year old equipment

@michaelbuchholz2164 Ай бұрын

The russians also have many T34 tanks. 😊

@maxidaho Ай бұрын

I'm sure the targeting system and other computer components are just fine on the T-62's.

@adler1964 Ай бұрын

There is not a single computer component on that tank.

@sergiytokio7295 Ай бұрын

А потом что?

@vegas1a Ай бұрын

Chariots......

@bear76009 Ай бұрын

T55

@leonfernandez1086 Ай бұрын

mas faciles de destruir,si el blindaje de los mas modernos no resiste es evidente que estos viejos tanques no tienen como resistir

@aocg1914 Ай бұрын

Esa es la cuestion, ya hay muchas armas antitanque que los va como minimo a desabilitar de un tiro..

@hendrikmoons8218 20 күн бұрын

We are 6 months away of the same news here for T54/55 to make it back, shortly folowed by T34.

@TheFrewah Ай бұрын

So they have run out of newer tanks than t-62 in all of russia? I guess very little will be done to make it safer for the crew.

@neutronalchemist3241 Ай бұрын

It had already been shown how many supposed ERA plates on frontline tanks are only filled with rubber pads.

@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson Ай бұрын

They still have T-90s being made. Just not many.

@StormkoopaCV03 Ай бұрын

Easy pickings by the drones... RIP to those are in metal old coffins.

@SteffiReitsch Ай бұрын

An old tank is better than no tank. At least they can be used as artillery, not for going up against modern tanks , of which the Ukrainians only have a few. The orcs have thousands of T-62s in reserve. The Amerikans scrapped thousands of their old M60 tanks which were still good. That's typical of them. Ukraine sure could have used those tanks.

@rainolahtinen4968 Ай бұрын

🤭....✌️🇫🇮

@bafon Ай бұрын

what's up with all the AI talking?

@jamesschenk Ай бұрын

Obsolete tanks russia running out of modern tanks whats next t34s from ww2

@scottmorley7738 Ай бұрын

I mean they have lost 11 T-54 & T-55 variants so far. 161 T-62's so far. Won't be long before the T-34 is dug out of retirement.

@giovanninespolon9131 Ай бұрын

In this war they need aircraft and drones not tanks ...

@mafiasoft1 Ай бұрын

Slava Ukraina

@atuanredjo6685 Ай бұрын

Not just tanks ,also the soldiers and tactics from 60s😂😂😂

@gutstompenrocker Ай бұрын

Russia sends its obsolete equipment to Ukraine so it doesn't have to provide upkeep when destroyed. The US sends its obsolete equipment to Ukraine so it doesn't have to provide upkeep period. The US still has all of its professional army. Does Russia even have trained personnel left?

@Smile200-z4y Ай бұрын

No.

@ScottPittman-jc7ph Ай бұрын

over 2 million trained personnel. Ukraine has little over 50,000 and that includes females.

@gutstompenrocker Ай бұрын

@@ScottPittman-jc7ph Then why can't the Russian military take out 50k troops if they have over 2 million? Something doesn't add up, or are they that incompetent?

@maxmustermann76 Ай бұрын

and they dont have reactive amor . it is just a scam

@paulmasterson386 Ай бұрын

An analyst reported that T-72s are being left in storage while T-62s are being brought back is that the auto loaders have not survived well in storage,and are too expensive to repair.

@CorporalCookie Ай бұрын

Read something similar. T-80s are new enough that even when more expensive, it made sense to upkeep them. T-62 and older were maintained because no autoloader and simple and inexpensive to maintain. T-72s kinda fell in-between. Autoloader so more expensive,but also older so they simply weren't maintained as well.

@drawingdead9025 Ай бұрын

The 500-600 is including refurbs, new tanks is about 100-150 a year.

@ivanflores-ramirez8105 Ай бұрын

Bro, they’re really old tanks

@MrDogbrain Ай бұрын

The average age of Ukrainian soldiers on the frontline is 40+ years old but Russia is losing? Okay lol

@jamesmilton6529 Ай бұрын

Should we start shipping M60s to match.

@dextercochran4916 17 күн бұрын

If Ukraine ever gets a way to protect its own tanks from drones/anti-tank missiles, they can tank rush the Russian lines.

@videotosse Ай бұрын

subtitles would be nice. I have no idea what´s going on :-/

@richardwarfield7386 Ай бұрын

So in 4-5 years Russia will be out of tanks at the current rate.

@davidbaptista7904 Ай бұрын

It's that and washing machines. Sure. That's why they're retreating forward... Damn, those washing machines just don't work. :(

@AzraelVDV Ай бұрын

Firstly this is a joke the RUAF hardly uses tanks now ask the 4 tank divisions pulled off the front in 23 but the t-62 they will make good drone bait kinda looks like a t-72 if you squint really hard.

@AzraelVDV Ай бұрын

Tanks are a joke in this war. Not mobile enough too heavy and easy targets for drones. The T-62 is junk that works it's a problem when you don't have ammo and Ukraine is running out of ammo, and men, and guns and it's just running out of time.

@emanuelhendrikx5233 Ай бұрын

The Russian federation have 100 000 plus older tanks in storige...so don't worry...

@davegravitt210 Ай бұрын

Drone conversions?

@julionahualt6113 Ай бұрын

Was written! from so much evil decadence is happening.

@johnd.5601 Ай бұрын

There's a shortage of pellet guns! Russian cannon fodder has been spotted with a new small arms.

@TotalyRandomUsername Ай бұрын

The russian recycled from the beginning of the war all their old cold war stuff of wich they have like and endless amount. Wich is cheap and smart. Everyone likes to turn it into a sign that they are out of gear. But the results on the battlefield do not show this at all.

@Wertyingf Ай бұрын

Sounds to me like Ukraine has some work to do in sibera

@derrick1989 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@jackcat3745 Ай бұрын

Spain was ruled by blacks for 750 years. Blacks defeated Italy. In the battle of Singapore, Japan lost 1000 soldiers and took 100,000 POWs.

@Walrus2112 Ай бұрын

The war in Ukraine has demonstated that tanks are now obsolete, much like how people discovered that battleships were obsolete in WWII.

@iwantyourcookiesnow Ай бұрын

Putin is a hip vintage dude

@abiliofernandes-ik4xl Ай бұрын

Se não tens um cão, caça com um gato!!!🤣🤣🤣

@CT9905. Ай бұрын

More Ukraine 🇺🇦 propaganda!!!

@Vaal12 Ай бұрын

🤭🤭🤭

@davidnelson5474 Ай бұрын

☠

@tonywestvirginia Ай бұрын

What a joke!

@robcalkelme Ай бұрын

😂

@stuff8575 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@TenylegMinekez-uc7co Ай бұрын

Well, we red this in 2022, too. And Russia is still kicking and Ukraine is losing ... I mean advancing backwards

@Thetequilashooter1 Ай бұрын

Russia at one time held 27% of Ukraine, but now it’s less 20%. You call that winning? 😂

@TenylegMinekez-uc7co Ай бұрын

@@Thetequilashooter1 Ukraine once had volunteers to the front line, now they are literally grabbing people from the streets to the trenches. What do you think?

@TenylegMinekez-uc7co Ай бұрын

@@Thetequilashooter1 And Russia never held that amount of territory, they tried to bluff and scare Ukraine to negotiating, what worked until BoJo arrived. But they had no occupational force for holding territory at all with the ridiculously small army they went in. No they switched to attritional warfare where they have advantage. Ukraine runabout of soldiers earlier, thanks to the size of the countries and the Russian advantages in artillery and air force. When Ukraine collapses, they could take what they want.

@Thetequilashooter1 Ай бұрын

@@TenylegMinekez-uc7co Why are you lying? Russia surely did control 27%, but Ukraine retook it. It’s when Russia became the largest donor of tanks to Ukraine when it was retreating. Ukraine’s not going to collapse. Russia took only around 200 sq miles in 2023, while losing hundreds of thousands of men. Russia’s going to need to mobilize more troops if it continues losing men at this same pace.

@TenylegMinekez-uc7co Ай бұрын

@@Thetequilashooter1 I'm not lying. Holding an area means controlling it. Russia held Crimea after 2014, it was controlled and pacified. The SMO looked scary, but they not really did anything, just waited for f.d up logistics and commands. Then they retreated, not even really fighting. In typical cases Ukrainian Army waited 1-3 days to enter to these areas. So using word 'retook' is a little bit strong. And this year does not favor Ukraine at all, they are grindef continuously.