Skeptics Wrongly Claim Apostle Paul Didn’t Know Jesus

  Рет қаралды 46,883

Mike Winger

Mike Winger

Күн бұрын

What Paul the Apostle knew about Jesus is important if for no other reason than the dismantle poor arguments against the resurrection of Christ. This is a systematic look at what historical details Paul had about Jesus so that we can rule out the idea that Paul didn't know of a historical Jesus or that Paul was merely making things up as he went along.
Link to our playlist answering objections to God's existence. • Christians React to 20...
Evidence for the empty tomb - • A Bunch Of Reasons The...

Пікірлер: 1 100
@sherrylhenning5630
@sherrylhenning5630 5 жыл бұрын
When you study Paul's writings, its kinda weird to realize that he had to deal with Christian cults very similar to what we have today. He actually deals with most of the same false teachings with what is taught now including prosperity teachings and the groups that indulge in physical excess.
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 5 жыл бұрын
Good observation.
@stevenvanvuuren8394
@stevenvanvuuren8394 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly ...it was paul who created those problems and churches in the first place ...no false teaching works ...who is surpised paul initiated cultish things wherever he taught?
@KaoXoni
@KaoXoni 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenvanvuuren8394 I can't follow. What exactly ist your claim, and can you substantiate it? (Otherwise: nevermind. Literally.)
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaoXoni what I think Steven is saying is that most Christian denominations come from Pauline letters and taught as doctrine of God. Pentecostals with tongues(Corinthians), Baptist once saved always saved (Ephesians/Hebrews), predestination (Romans), and the list keeps going… seek and you will find.
@friedrichrubinstein2346
@friedrichrubinstein2346 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheShutterbug1968 Most of "tongues" is actually in Acts, which was written by Luke. Hebrews wasn't written by Paul either. And Romans doesn't support predestination. What else?
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 9 ай бұрын
Let's check and see how many quotes Paul has of Jesus. Tell us mr Winger.
@FDroid01
@FDroid01 5 ай бұрын
He has exactly 1, and it's virtually irrelevant 😂
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 5 ай бұрын
@@FDroid01 haha, yes it is so sad. Jesus said to abide in His word. If people and pastors knew Jesus words they would be able to see the error of Paul’s words.
@clintfogie2967
@clintfogie2967 4 ай бұрын
Give exact examples of “errors” in Paul’s words
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 4 ай бұрын
@@clintfogie2967 here is a good start; Paul's Contradictions of Jesus • Jesus Says Not To Eat Meat Sacrificed to Idols, But Paul Says It Is Ok. • Jesus Says The Law Continues, But Paul Says No. • Paul Says The Pharisees Followed The Law Rigorously, But Jesus Says They Were Lax About The Law. • Jesus Says Salvation Initiates And Continues By Repentance From Sin and Obedience Besides Faith; Paul Says This is Heresy. • Jesus Tells Apostles To Teach His Commands Given Prior to His Ascension While In The Flesh, But Paul Says Not To Do So. • Paul Says Elders Are Entitled To Pay for 'Preaching & Teaching,' But Jesus Says No. • Jesus Teaches There Are Only 12 Apostles Into Eternity, But Paul Adds Himself To The List As a Thirteenth. • Paul Exhorts Celibacy, But Jesus Clearly Says It is A Choice Not Within Everyone's Power. • Jesus Says There Is One Pastor and Teacher (Himself), But Paul Tells Church He is a Teacher, & There Are Many Pastors and Teachers. • Paul Says God Is The God of the Dead, But Jesus Says God Is Not The God of the Dead. • Paul Says God Does Not Live in Temples Made of Human Hands, But Jesus Says He Does. • Jesus says Nations Of The World Are Under Satan, But Paul Says Its Rulers Are Agents of God. • Jesus Teaches Rapture is Of Evil Ones First, But Paul Teaches The Opposite. • Jesus Says A Call Is Revocable, But Paul Says It Is Irrevocable. • Jesus Says Some Are Righteous, But Paul Says It Is Impossible. • Paul Excludes Eating With Sinners But Christ's Example We Are To Follow, and the Lost Sheep Parable, Is Contrary. • Paul Teaches We Are Eternally Secure, But Jesus Teaches Insecurity to a Sinning Believer. • Paul Teaches In Original Sin But Jesus Contradicts. • Paul Denies Obedience Grants Any Righteousness Unto Life, But Jesus & Exodus 20:6 Both Says It Does. • Jesus Sends The Apostles to Baptize, But Paul Says Jesus Did Not Send Him to Baptize. • Jesus Says Only the Merciful Receive Mercy, But Paul Says Only Those God Chooses Arbitrarily Will Receive Mercy. • Paul Says Salvation Does Not Depend Upon Exertion, But Jesus Says It Does. • Paul Says He Could Be Justified of The Sin that Never Could be Justified under the Law given Moses (Blasphemy), but Jesus says to the contrary that it is The Unpardonable Sin. • Paul Says Flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God, but Jesus in Flesh ascended to heaven, and promises to resurrect our bodies likewise to the Kingdom of the New Jerusalem, giving us the same physical resurrection that Jesus had. Jesus Says Not To Eat Meat Sacrificed to Idols, But Paul Says It Is Ok
@jimhelms7178
@jimhelms7178 4 ай бұрын
Saul is probably a disciple, no doubt, but he isn't an apostle. There are twelve apostles. Fact.
@trojenell
@trojenell 9 ай бұрын
The Most High said trust NO MAN. HE also said cursed is one who trust in man . JEREMIAH 17:5 Obey Chist. Thats it.
@Yodlemore
@Yodlemore Ай бұрын
Exactly. Paul is an antichrist. He preached an Apologetic gospel. This guys a real blind guide in video.. a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
@samynator0904
@samynator0904 Ай бұрын
Didn't Jeremiah (a man) said that? Like, why do you trust Jeremiah or any other writer of the bible if all of them were men? Actually, Jesus didn't write anything himself, how do you trust what John, Mark, Matthew and Luke said about Jesus?
@markreyes3173
@markreyes3173 27 күн бұрын
@@samynator0904 Gottem!
@MrMikemcmillan
@MrMikemcmillan 27 күн бұрын
I don't trust you
@FDroid01
@FDroid01 6 күн бұрын
​@@samynator0904 5 This is what the Lord says: “Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the Lord. 6 That person will be like a bush in the wastelands; they will not see prosperity when it comes. They will dwell in the parched places of the desert, in a salt land where no one lives. 7 “But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him. 8 They will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit.”
@themoonisthetruecalendar
@themoonisthetruecalendar 8 ай бұрын
Where in scriptures does it tell us that Jesus knew Paul/killerSaul?
@Yodlemore
@Yodlemore Ай бұрын
@@themoonisthetruecalendar Paul was the antichrist. Still leading people into hell today.
@amaynard65
@amaynard65 3 жыл бұрын
I had something like this happen today I have never heard anyone question Paul not legitimately being an apostle before. Crazy!
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 2 жыл бұрын
yes, but actually it has happened from the book of Acts and throughout the next 2000 years. President Jefferson believed Paul was a false apostle.
@shawn-wr8ux
@shawn-wr8ux 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheShutterbug1968 idc what thomas jefferson belived because hes only a man and some of our founding fathers were freemasons no disrespect to you though 🤙
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawn-wr8ux Exactly my point my. Paul was just a man like Jefferson and yet he is elevated above Jesus.
@paulwise6856
@paulwise6856 2 жыл бұрын
If Paul was an apostle then apostles still exist, anyone can have a similar experience as Paul if you didn't have to walk with him before the resurrection.
@MrEtzel81
@MrEtzel81 Жыл бұрын
@@paulwise6856 Correct, it is blatantly clear that Paul did not know Jesus when he was on earth. None of the evidence presented attests to the claim that Paul knew Jesus personally in his earthly ministry. Paul knew Jesus through his visions of him ONLY. He may have known about Jesus through his limited interaction with Jesus' disciples but never knew him personally.
@ruthbates9549
@ruthbates9549 10 ай бұрын
If I lie to glorify God, how does that make me a sinner? What is the actual answer to that question? And why would God rely on Liars to glorify him? Sincerely asking.
@FDroid01
@FDroid01 5 ай бұрын
"In Him there is no guile!"
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 5 ай бұрын
Very good question...John 8:44 Satan is the father of the lie. Reject Paul, Follow Jesus
@Voiceintheopen
@Voiceintheopen 4 ай бұрын
@@TheShutterbug1968 I like your answers, FOLLOW JESUS! an apostle of Jesus said if someone says I follow Jesus, then he must walk like Jesús walked!
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 4 ай бұрын
@@Voiceintheopen amen! And no where does John say to abide in Paul’s word; 1 John 2:5-6 NKJV But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. [6] He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
@ReinaldoKyesse
@ReinaldoKyesse 4 ай бұрын
@@TheShutterbug1968Paul tells me to follow Jesus so I don’t have any reason to reject him.
@ArgothaWizardWars
@ArgothaWizardWars 4 жыл бұрын
I just saw an ad for the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints when i clicked your video. Not sure if you can do anything about it, though.
@cherylshipley7258
@cherylshipley7258 5 жыл бұрын
To the last question... The actions of Jesus in the temple were righteous indignation. He had to make a point, but couldn't sugar coat it, or they wouldn't have taken Him seriously.
@Judahmangi
@Judahmangi 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how little details that I've probably never given a second thought to when reading the word are still consistent with and supportive of the truth of Jesus' resurrection!
@_the_watcher_2089
@_the_watcher_2089 3 жыл бұрын
Thats because Paul wrote down what was being said about Jesus, the oral traditions was around way before it was made in to a book so this proves nothing but that he heard stories from others.
@husseinpoliphilo
@husseinpoliphilo Жыл бұрын
Paul the deceiver
@biblegeekmanonamission7159
@biblegeekmanonamission7159 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike for your servant's heart! Love your teachings! Got a off topic question. What software/websites are you using to produce your KZfaq videos? Are you doing the split screens post production? Any help would be greatly appreciated! I teach at a homeless ministry and we are recording the teachings and would love to upload the videos.
@kimwestwood8840
@kimwestwood8840 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike I have never visited your channel before. Im curious do you teach in your church the gospel of grace and eternal security ?
@jonathangee7304
@jonathangee7304 2 ай бұрын
If paul met Jesus after ascension. He didn’t meet “Jesus”. Jesus said his second coming would not be private. If it’s in a vision, ok. But he said he saw Him standing next to him. Johns revelation is through an angel from Jesus. If the Father delivered a message that was given to Jesus, then Jesus passed the vision onto an angel to hand deliver to John how is it that with Paul the same rules don’t apply?
@KeepingWatch95
@KeepingWatch95 5 жыл бұрын
Acts 26:14 [...] it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. This saying "it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks" is a quote from a Greek God within a Greek play from 406 BC. Jesus would have never quoted wisdom from an Idol from a Greek play. John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. John 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
@salman13
@salman13 2 жыл бұрын
Paul was probably an ambitious person and trying hard to convince the pagans lol
@platzhirsch4275
@platzhirsch4275 7 ай бұрын
Great summary. Also let's remember the power of the holy spirit to give knowledge. Paul being filled with the holy spirit also got knowledge.... not just Paul but all apostles and till today to all that God pleases to give knowledge. Amen
@FDroid01
@FDroid01 5 ай бұрын
Don't you think Paul's Holy Spirit would have been able to talk to the apostles before his trial? Rather than telling him correctly that they would not believe him? Deut 13: 1-5
@platzhirsch4275
@platzhirsch4275 5 ай бұрын
​@@FDroid01repent of such lies. One day I tell you you shall close your eyes and see your dead body from above before your spirit is taken away to face truth your now mocking. At this stage however your mockery will end. Repent therefore
@FDroid01
@FDroid01 5 ай бұрын
@@platzhirsch4275 Can you read Deut 13 for me and tell me what you think?
@sophianikolai8381
@sophianikolai8381 2 жыл бұрын
Mike I would LOVE to know your perspective on The New Perspective of Paul!!!! This is so troubling !
@Jesusinhaise
@Jesusinhaise Жыл бұрын
Can someone plz tell me which website Pastor Mike is using here. I find it very easy to maneuver scripture like that. Thanks in advance and God bless.
@jty1999
@jty1999 4 ай бұрын
Hey I know this is late but he's using the Logos software
@jami1730
@jami1730 3 жыл бұрын
People really tripped me up with their accusations about Paul. It really hurt my spirit & walk with God, and before you knew it...I had stopped reading the New Testament. I didn’t want to learn about spiritual warfare or anything Paul taught (I actually really loved reading Paul’s letters before!) I even became afraid to say the name of Jesus. I started doubting Jesus & who He claimed to be! I had just began my walk with God back in July, and wasn’t strong enough to stand firm when the deceivers & accusers came. It took me a very long time to recover from it. I have been back into the NT since, doing all that I can to eat it all up. I don’t believe our Heavenly Father would allow Paul’s epistles into His Holy Book for thousands of years if he was a false teacher or ravenous wolf. God is too good & His will is that not one perish.
@yochanan5506
@yochanan5506 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should try reading psalm 119 and then the gospels. Blessings
@alanshoebridge9987
@alanshoebridge9987 3 жыл бұрын
Paul had the position being the primary position as aposaleit to the gentiles. Peter being the primary apos
@rexrodecolt
@rexrodecolt 3 жыл бұрын
I know Jami, Right? No doubt.
@KaoXoni
@KaoXoni 3 жыл бұрын
It's about time that we warn and inoculate our young disciples against the kind of doctrinal crazy-making you described. It's spiritual gaslighting, basically. Very sneaky, very effective in stunting a believer's growth.
@rd5324
@rd5324 2 жыл бұрын
But the Holy Spirit within the believer should be our wittness. You were led here for a reason, probably for assurance
@Acts4Twelve
@Acts4Twelve 5 жыл бұрын
Watched one of your videos for the first time yesterday. I really enjoy your thoughtful balanced approach to the scriptures. I subscribed and God bless you!
@_the_watcher_2089
@_the_watcher_2089 3 жыл бұрын
It was not balanced as you say mike is bias toward Paul so he wants to believe it, but mike didn’t or maybe I missed it did you talk about a lot of the earliest Christians thought Paul was the antichrist? Just wondering mike kind of tells a sweet story of Paul, but it was not sweet at all Peter didn’t trust Paul at all most didn’t. The only gospel where Peter speaks about Paul is in 2 Peter but it’s known to be a forgery, it wasn’t from Peter but from someone wanting to make it seem like Peter accepted Paul. There’s a lot to learn on Paul after I did and saw how different he teaches compared to Jesus you have to make a choice follow Paul or Jesus.
@coloradodutch7480
@coloradodutch7480 2 жыл бұрын
No, 2Peter is not known as a forgery. It has been accepted as as part of the NT canon since the beginning. But say it is, you then also need to ‘fix’ Acts and Galatians, I don’t think that will work.
@ronaldeglewski3073
@ronaldeglewski3073 Жыл бұрын
@@coloradodutch7480 Remember the bible was was written 400 years later by Bishops some books got in some not , Paul even said he used trickery , he also did not believe the laws of Moses that god gave ,And Christ came to fulfil .
@coloradodutch7480
@coloradodutch7480 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldeglewski3073 The bible was not written 400 years later. The books of the NT were written by 100AD. Paul died in Rome before 70AD, his letters were written before that. Paul did believe the laws of Moses. He did believe that Christ fulfilled them.
@triciaburcell3241
@triciaburcell3241 2 жыл бұрын
Pastor Mike, did you ever make a video about the phrase “the twelve” that you mentioned in minute 11 of this video? I’m intrigued at your teaser of the fuller meaning of that phrase! (I’m guessing it’s rooted in there being 12 tribes of Israel, but that is a guess.)
@jimbeaudoin2037
@jimbeaudoin2037 4 ай бұрын
keep reading. how does the Torah prescribe adding writings to scripture? look it up, PLEASE.
@charlieboi6370
@charlieboi6370 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this.
@medleysa
@medleysa 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, have you thought about taking the audio from your livestreams and uploading them as a podcast on various platforms? I'm sure a lot of people love listening to your lessons, but KZfaq may be blocked on some networks (like at the office) and can eat through mobile data plans. Do you already upload these to a podcast platform, or is this something you'd be interested in doing?
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 5 жыл бұрын
I already do have a podcast like that. It is called “Bible Thinker”. It’s available on most podcast platforms though currently not on Spotify.
@user-jl5hd3ch9n
@user-jl5hd3ch9n 8 ай бұрын
I think that to really mount a cogent argument you need to not simply show where the epistles talk about Jesus but how Paul actually knew these things since he never met the person Jesus.
@scottybaby5884
@scottybaby5884 5 жыл бұрын
How do I learn about your live broadcasts?
@cfcameron7
@cfcameron7 5 жыл бұрын
I started listening to you this year and I feel led to thank you for defending our faith and to let you know that God will provide for you and your wife because this ministry is saving souls and we don't think you are wanting to get rich of Christians you are not saying God said sow this amount for a miracle you are for asking for support from who can give it that you are able to walk out your destiny and calling and purpose Godbless you brother Mike and family from sister Claudette in the UK
@bealightnthedarkness7662
@bealightnthedarkness7662 5 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered why Paul's physical eyes were blinded when He saw the resurrected Christ but nobody else seemed to suffer the same(Unless I am mistaken)...I know there is some significance to it, but can't find much on the topic. Any of you guys/ladies know or have a guess...?? I know that the father of John's voice was muted until he was born...?
@bealightnthedarkness7662
@bealightnthedarkness7662 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great answer. God bless. :)
@Bibliotechno
@Bibliotechno 5 жыл бұрын
And yet for so many it was and is sadly another sense (hearing) affected. Jesus said: This is why I speak to them in parables: "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
@salman13
@salman13 2 жыл бұрын
because Paul was making stuff up. In another place, he gets caught lying when he says the opposite.
@razorbeard6970
@razorbeard6970 Жыл бұрын
Light
@user-oh5gz4ue6r
@user-oh5gz4ue6r Жыл бұрын
Symbolically, you could take it as an inversion. Paul, who was blind about Christ up to that moment, is now as aware as he could ever be spiritually, and yet he becomes physically blinded.
@stevenvanvuuren8394
@stevenvanvuuren8394 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your opinion mike...
@pattrell5257
@pattrell5257 2 жыл бұрын
What about Paul's teaching on food sacrificed to idols and Rev. chapter 2?! Anyone?!
@FireShine-ss4sb
@FireShine-ss4sb Жыл бұрын
The phony 13th apostle went around teaching easy believism and watered down everything Jesus said. Never met with the 12 real apostles except to argue with them. Silas finally bailed on him and went with Peter. Rejected by all the churches of Asia minor. Never went to Jesus to get his unclean spirits cast out.
@justchilling704
@justchilling704 5 жыл бұрын
You're debating Matt? lol Sye debated him too may the Holy Spirit guide you!
@UncreatedWay
@UncreatedWay 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Brother. This topic has weighed heavy on my heart.
@Amanda-mw9su
@Amanda-mw9su 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about the GIFTS of the Spirit & WORKS for God? I love the way your brain works & how you explain God’s Word makes the most sense to me. I just need some clarity. It seems like everyone is expected to be a worship leader, pastor, teacher or evangelist but I’m not any of those things. I know I have the gift of faith, but what do I do with that? Encourage others because I believe & trust God? It’s confusing & disheartening. I want to work for the Lord & magnify Him through the gifts of the Spirit that have been given to me, but I don’t know how to find my place in the Kingdom. :/ help.
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Amanda. Jesus says call no man father and call no man teacher. The Holy Spirit will teach us the words of Jesus. Remember it is all about the Son. Like Jesus says you must die to your life, and pick up your cross and follow Him. Just always point to Jesus and the Word. It sounds like you are on the right road. Read Genesis chapters 9, 10, 11. Notice the command to Noah and family. Then what happened in chapter 11. The people wanted to make a name for themselves. Jesus gave similar command in Matt 28, go into the world and make disciples teaching all I have taught you. Notice Jesus didn't say build physical churches and collect monies from peoples for their teachings. Tower of Babel is the equivalent to men building religions. Blessings in Christ.
@deezynar
@deezynar 5 жыл бұрын
You were on staff at a church in L.A., are you not there anymore? I figured that the next time I went to L.A. I'd drop in there to hear you teach in person.
@ewipp1364
@ewipp1364 5 жыл бұрын
Catching it after the LIVE.... but thx so much for posting! I showed my husband (more of a scholar than I) the Video you did on Bethel tonight. You have GREAT biblical teaching. 😁😁😁💗 Keep it up.
@waywed
@waywed 3 жыл бұрын
Sloppy! - the title of the vlog is "Paul Didn't Know Jesus" but you immediately launch into "Paul Didn't Know ABOUT Jesus". This is a completely different issue. Paul did not know Jesus (ie never met in the flesh) but he certainly knew about Jesus, and later even claimed to have seen him in some sort of vision. Paul's vision (or whatever it was - the Bible accounts differ in some detail) is the only first-hand account in the Bible of someone encountering the risen Jesus. The Gospels are at best 2nd-hand accounts - which is probably why they suffer from the usual coherency problems with reported events. Nevertheless, I do admire the energy and enthusiasm you devote to defending Christianity and trying to fit Biblical square pegs into round holes. Most pastors and preachers avoid the issues and opt for the easy life by just cherry-picking Bible verses that they know their followers want to hear.
@ptk8451
@ptk8451 2 жыл бұрын
I dont yhink it is second hand
@334Emanuel
@334Emanuel 2 жыл бұрын
The book of Acts you see where Paul met Jesus.. the vision in 2 conrinthians is different that the initial Jesus encounter... Just like Paul seen Jesus. Muslims, Hindus and many more have seen Jesus in visions. Left their Religion to follow Jesus. And are being killed for it.. Don't forget paul spent time with Peter for many months and learned about Jesus's life on earth. All through his epistles Paul is in direct line with Jesus Teachings. Jesus affirmed him so should we
@waywed
@waywed 2 жыл бұрын
@@334Emanuel You say Paul was in direct line with Jesus teachings but many of the the early Christian-Jew sects of the 1st and 2nd century (e.g. Ebionites, Gnostics etc) did not agree with Paul's interpretation of who Jesus was and his teachings. Paul even argued with James the Just (head of the Jerusalem church and Jesus brother) and Peter over various points of doctrine (eg Mosaic law, circumcision, faith vs works etc) . Paul seemed to spend most of his letter-writing doggedly trying to persuade the wider diaspora to adopt his version of Christianity and ignore the others. For a time Paul's teachings were considered heretical and it wasn't until the 3rd century that the Pauline version of Christianity started to dominate and gradually become reflected in which writings/gospels were selected to be included in the New Testament canon. The idea that there was one holistic, integrated Christian doctrine from the beginning is a fallacy.
@334Emanuel
@334Emanuel 2 жыл бұрын
@@waywed Gnostics were skeptics of God.. ebionites were some what not saved.. many people disagree with Paul. But Paul followed Christ... look through the scripture Mike winger mentioned.. compare them.. read Galatians and see where Paul went to live with Peter for many months to learn about Jesus life on earth..that's no different from a non Believers finally See Jesus as he is. Becomes converted, and read the Gospels to learn about Jesus. Then the rest of the Bible to see how it all glorifies Jesus from Genesis to Revelations.. its all in there.. Also...... hit me up on IG jeston.bible.believer
@waywed
@waywed 2 жыл бұрын
@@334Emanuel Peter may have taught Paul a great deal about Jesus, however Paul developed his own ideas of what a true follower of Jesus should be - to the extent he and Peter were in opposition (Galatians 2:11). The story of 1st century Christianity with all its sects, squabblings, and the later "cherry-picking"of writings that supported Pauline Christianity for inclusion in the canon, gives me no confidence in the accuracy of Christian doctrine as generally accepted today. In fact, the more I read about early Christians the less credible divine inspiration of the New Testament canon seems to be.
@user-cy4nx2mb8y
@user-cy4nx2mb8y 9 ай бұрын
Can you please explain this verse from Paul for me 2 Corrinthians 12 verse 16?
@carla-sq9rb
@carla-sq9rb 5 жыл бұрын
Why did you say the gentiles were not expected to keep the law? Didn't you just quote Paul teaching the law to them in Timothy 5:8 "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain" Why would he teach such a scripture if they were not to keep it...that would be confusing.
@nathanieldiaz2845
@nathanieldiaz2845 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Mike as good as he is in many areas falls flat in understanding that Gods commands are for all his followers. Not for salvation but for obedience to God. Therefore, with your minds ready for action, be serious and set your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. As obedient children, do not be conformed to the desires of your former ignorance. But as the One who called you is holy, you also are to be holy in all your conduct; for it is written, Be holy, because I am holy. 1 Peter 1:13‭-‬16 HCSB Last verse qoutes lectivus. After various commands God would say be holy because I am holy. Following Gods law isnt about why it's about that fact that He is God not us. So obey. So sad that this simple thing has been lost for almost 1700+ years.
@rd5324
@rd5324 2 жыл бұрын
1 Tim 5:18
@bobthrasher8226
@bobthrasher8226 3 жыл бұрын
Paul also said that he received revelation directly from Jesus.
@T1tans777
@T1tans777 6 күн бұрын
The problem is so do people today and they claim that being gay is OK. You gotta be really, really careful about who you listen to and by the way, just because it’s in the Bible doesn’t mean it’s right King Solomon had a lot of wives and God said that he did not permit him to have them yet He still did it anyway. That doesn’t mean that King Solomon was right for that.
@melissaelliott2966
@melissaelliott2966 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot in words express my gratitude for this channel!!!
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 14 күн бұрын
Paul met the resurrected Jesus and would never have become a Christian without doing so.
@billmauer8117
@billmauer8117 9 күн бұрын
Paul claimed he had visions of Jesus. You are assuming it's true--it was a claim that he wrote down. Could he have been having hallucinations? If you say that's not possible, you aren't being honest.
@cameronchurchill2749
@cameronchurchill2749 Жыл бұрын
Crack up how he never gets into couter arguments, I bet this guy got nailed in the debate. These are old Christian tricks
@codyb4016
@codyb4016 Жыл бұрын
I just had a guy tell me that Paul made up the doctrine that Jesus died for our sins because Jesus never explicitly said that. I know he’s wrong, but I couldn’t refute it. Also he said sacrificing Jesus (human sacrifice) is a pagan ritual. Again, I know he’s wrong, and my faith isn’t shaken, but I can’t find answers.
@razorbeard6970
@razorbeard6970 Жыл бұрын
You don't know he's wrong. You believe him to be wrong. There's a significant difference there.
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory Жыл бұрын
It’s true that Jesus did not mention death burial and resurrection for the remission of sins. Although if you can’t believe paul then you can’t believe a single word out of the Bible and that’s sad that people would think that way. I need to pray for those that don’t walk in Paul’s understanding, because those who disregard Paul disregard the cross. May you be blessed and may you grow in the faith
@razorbeard6970
@razorbeard6970 Жыл бұрын
@@BrockJamesStory This is an interesting perspective I've never heard stated before about believing Paul. He was a murderer of believers and never met Jesus. The abdication of Jewish laws for converts in other churchs that he suggested is the biggest reason Christianity took off in the early days. Whether that was correct is unknown.
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory Жыл бұрын
@@razorbeard6970 we are told to follow Paul because Paul is of Christ, paul preaches the cross of Christ like no other, Jesus said what he did because he was under the law and the Old Testament, there is only a very few chapters in all the gospels that is not under the law, even though Christ had still not risen to the father yet.
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory Жыл бұрын
@@razorbeard6970 but if you deny Paul we deny the cross as a glorifying thing
@stevenvanvuuren8394
@stevenvanvuuren8394 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Jesus warning of a false Christ in the desert ....and then paul finds a christ in the desert? Or if Jesus was around why didn't he choose paul and teach him like he did the 12
@benwade7334
@benwade7334 4 жыл бұрын
False teacher in the desert = Muhammad
@Melody.Joy.23
@Melody.Joy.23 3 жыл бұрын
@@benwade7334 inner rooms = Muhammad desert/wilderness = Shaul
@benwade7334
@benwade7334 3 жыл бұрын
@@Melody.Joy.23 inner rooms?
@liberate-e4x
@liberate-e4x 13 күн бұрын
This is such a good topic. I was Jewish before coming to Christianity, and I really fixated on the Gospels and the Old Testament for the majority of my studies. When I got to Paul, something felt very different and off to me.
@corundergroundreligion8190
@corundergroundreligion8190 Жыл бұрын
Mike, you're good and diligent but how is it with the information on Darby and the rapture you still believe its Christian doctrine and biblical?
@mikebarnes7734
@mikebarnes7734 Ай бұрын
Importantly, Jesus did not know Paul.
@MrMikemcmillan
@MrMikemcmillan 27 күн бұрын
Jesus knows everybody
@mikebarnes7734
@mikebarnes7734 19 күн бұрын
@@MrMikemcmillan “I never knew you. Depart ...
@jackdupwny93crew40
@jackdupwny93crew40 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Keep spreading the word brother.
@user-nc2wi1xo7v
@user-nc2wi1xo7v Жыл бұрын
its gonna take an hour to explain when Jesus met Paul?
@daviddub
@daviddub 11 ай бұрын
You can read Acts chapter 9 in less than an hour.
@rjhinnj
@rjhinnj 4 ай бұрын
Also, remember, at the council on Jerusalem, Paul’s message was accepted by the apostles who walked with Christ in his earthly ministry. He was given the “right hand of fellowship.” See: Galations 2
@CliveChamberlain946
@CliveChamberlain946 5 жыл бұрын
Possible omission? *Paul spent 3 years with Jesus in Arabia* The wisdom of Paul, his plenitude of gifts and his authoritative reprimands against Peter made them sit-up and take notice that something very special was given to Paul (the mystery of the Gospel hidden in God to Gentile church, designed to cause jealousy among the 'elect' before they were cast-off until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled). Not that we should quote Calvinists at Ligonier ministries (1st quote I could find..), but even they had this to say about Paul: "he retired into Arabia for a time and not until three years later did he go to Jerusalem. Even then, the only apostle he met was Peter, and the only other leader he met was James, the presiding elder of the Jerusalem church. It has often been remarked that Paul clearly implied that he spent three years being taught by Jesus Himself (Gal 1:12), either directly or (perhaps more likely) through the study of the Word. Thus *like the other apostles, Paul studied with Christ for three years* before beginning his ministry"
@CliveChamberlain946
@CliveChamberlain946 5 жыл бұрын
Summary: Because Jesus had Paul's full attention right from the beginning, we might even submit the 3-years he spent in Arabia with Christ were less distracted (by the crowds and events) and far more intense. Little wonder God chose him to write and explain things more than all the others. Small quiz here: Are we Patristic or Pauline believers?
@strykerdawn1
@strykerdawn1 5 жыл бұрын
@@CliveChamberlain946 what is ther difference between those two?
@CliveChamberlain946
@CliveChamberlain946 5 жыл бұрын
@@strykerdawn1 Most Dispensational believers are Pauline and try to delineate and clarify differences between passages written by Paul vs. Peter and others of the circumcision (some texts seem to have a 'bent' towards ceremony, works and loss of salvation without 'rightly dividing' as Paul said to Timothy). God in his mercy towards the Gentiles flung open the doors of access to a restored relationship by 'faith alone' leading to true repentance (this is _metanoia_ in the Greek, a change of mind) without the circumcision, celebrating feasts, going to the temple, or even baptism or communion (however harmless, we have a hard time shaking-off those two because we cling easily to works and traditions). Jesus and the disciples gave the Gospel to the Jews quite exclusively until mid-acts, so Acts is a critical book of transition and without it, going from John to Romans would be nearly impossible. Still when reading Paul, one must realize that wherever he went during much of his ministry, he went first to the Jews and then to the Gentiles. The KJV (or a good Greek interlinear like the Thomas Newberry) is very instrumental in understanding Paul's often plural uses of 'we' and 'you' to clarify comparisons between Jews and Greeks - clearly we have more freedom, and God wants to "provoke the Jews to Jealousy" Sorry for going long, just some random thoughts before heading to work! God Bless!
@iwilldi
@iwilldi 5 жыл бұрын
quote: Paul spent 3 years with Jesus in Arabia Let's assume this is true and paul was taught by the risen Jesus. What then do we do with the jesus from the 4 gospels? Trash him? Cause obviously jesus the jew validated the law as important. But Paul said, the law plays no role for salvation even for the jews themselves. Paul is teaching a different jesus!
@CliveChamberlain946
@CliveChamberlain946 5 жыл бұрын
@@iwilldi Precisely true. The law plays a role only to show us we can trust ONLY in Gods provision (as Leighton Flowers explains) to atone for us - works excluded. That's why it's important to understand the dispensations and the mystery hidden in God and hidden from the prophets, and revealed directly to Paul for this present age we are living in. It's also why understanding the book of Acts 'as transitional' when Paul taught that God was allowing Gentiles to receive the adoption of sons by Grace through Faith alone, in order to provoke the 'elect people of God' to jealousy (or they would be set aside until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete). I have found the 'Ask the Theologian' program by Dr. Randy White to be *the absolute number one resource on KZfaq for difficult scripture questions* (especially in the last 4-years, since he has pulled away from the largely ecumenistic evangelicalism, social gospel movements and inferior biblical texts). You'll also see more Greek there than other channels... the guy's an A-1 linguist! Brother, we are witnessing the closing of this Gentile 'Age of Grace'. After the Rapture takes place, God will turn His attention back to focus on the 'elect nation' once again. On the north border of Israel, Syria now exists in name only, whilst Turkey, Iran, and Russia have met with plans to carve it up (and Bashar Al-Asad is NOT invited - he owes $40 billion to Russia and cannot pay..). Presently, this declaration by the US regarding the Golan Height's (buffer zone) will be yet another catalyst in the mix, since Russia needs a cash payback on the debt from the 'supposed Syrian owned' Golan oil reserves. For more info, you may want to checkout a YT channel called *Behold Israel* which has weekly updates (and no 'date setting' whatsoever) on what God is doing back in the land. - God Bless!
@debras3806
@debras3806 5 жыл бұрын
Mike, I'm normally a big fan of your stuff, but I was quite surprised to see you use the end of Mark 7:19 as evidence -- with, I could see, the little letter indicating a footnote (which of course says this little addendum was probably not original to Mark) right there on your screen! Now certainly you may take the minority position that it was original (a position I would argue against, knowing some Koine Greek and some textual criticism -- and maybe more importantly, having read some on this passage by those who know both subjects better than I!), but it just seems frankly really flimsy and even irresponsible to cite it as evidence without even noting that this passage is highly debatable. By the way, I'm not arguing that the correct interpretation is debatable -- we actually agree on that! -- only that the text is debatable in how strongly it states that interpretation (ie, long story short, I agree with the commentator who added the addendum that Jesus was in effect declaring all foods clean -- I just don't agree that that commentator was Mark!) To overstate a case or state it with flimsy evidence makes it seem weaker than it actually is, bc it sets you up for attack -- and worse, in this and any similar cases, I think you're setting up Christians who have never heard of textual variants to be both destroyed verbally and even led into doubt of their own faith (I speak from personal experience ;/). Could you reconsider using passages with textual variants as evidence?
@alanshoebridge9987
@alanshoebridge9987 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely the entirety of brother is Paul's writings were prior to the gospels and John's and Peter's epistles.
@cabdirahimhussein8678
@cabdirahimhussein8678 3 жыл бұрын
Debra correcty if I am wrong but I think his misleading with his galatians 3.16. Children/offspring/seed don't need to indicate more than one in order to exclusively for Jesus (peace be upon him, pbh). And if we say missing s mean Jesus(pbh) than we can cite lots missing spelling and grammatical errors in earlier manual scripts that we hand written. I believe this is making it fit a narrative that Jesus is the descendant of Ibrahim and bypass all other descendants prophets like Moses, Jacob, Joseph, Sulaiman and his son(David) and more (peacebeuponthem all), in order to emphasize divinity for Jesus. This is misleading
@ksd593
@ksd593 3 жыл бұрын
Paul's sect will always be vulnerable to attacks of reason, common sense and evidence.
@user-oh5gz4ue6r
@user-oh5gz4ue6r Жыл бұрын
@@ksd593 this is so ill-founded. it's like you people think Christianity is the writing of the NT and then Martin Luther or something. Surely there is not a succession of knowledge within the Early Church that completely contradicts you, right?
@ksd593
@ksd593 Жыл бұрын
@@user-oh5gz4ue6r A very thoughtful but assumptive comment. Succession of abuse of power - check. Succession of which sect is better, your's or mine (read letters of Paul) - yes. Succession of struggle who has more press/print - check. Succession of mental speculation - plenty. Succession of knowledge coming from Holy Ghost (giving contradictory statements, by the way) - you are the judge. This tradition and abuse of it have caused so much harm to humanity but blind followers refuse to see it. Happy? provoking questions, adequate answers...
@Priscilla_Bettis
@Priscilla_Bettis 7 ай бұрын
Love your videos, thank you!
@Hodge863
@Hodge863 5 жыл бұрын
I heard in romans they were talking about Jesus washing his hands not about the food he didn’t eat unclean meat but he had unclean hands. And the Pharisees were mad because Jesus he didn’t follow oral law. Which most people believe that oral law was abolished not written
@Hodge863
@Hodge863 5 жыл бұрын
Also defiling and uncleanliness were 2 different words used in leviticus
@deborahdecker4161
@deborahdecker4161 Жыл бұрын
There is scripture that says Jesus chose Paul as a vessel to the gentiles. Acts 9:15
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory Жыл бұрын
Yes we are to follow Paul!
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory Жыл бұрын
@Hen Ry if you comment again I’ll find the verse, but paul basically says those who don’t believe in the cross refuse to follow paul
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory Жыл бұрын
@Hen Ry Philippians 3:17-18 Not saying exactly what I thought, but how can they believe Jesus and not Paul as well? The whole Bible is the word of God
@georgeabraham4148
@georgeabraham4148 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Saul spend few years with apostles before he became an apostle, for him to know first hand about Jesus, before the gospels were out?
@thatonechristian2487
@thatonechristian2487 4 жыл бұрын
They had a meeting and discussed doctrine and beliefs and such to be sure they were all on the same page.
@FireShine-ss4sb
@FireShine-ss4sb Жыл бұрын
Yes, Paul met with them to argue for easy believism, no law, until in Acts 21 they told him to repent.
@laureendutter2445
@laureendutter2445 Жыл бұрын
He spent 15 days with Peter Galatians 1:18
@MrWaterlionmonkey
@MrWaterlionmonkey Жыл бұрын
I'm confused. If Paul says he appeared to Peter and the 12, wouldn't that mean Jesus had 13 apostles? Peter is counted as 1 of the 12 in the gospels, why isn't he counted amongst them in Corinthians?
@gtslow7
@gtslow7 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Favorite channel. Thank you.
@Betcaligarcia
@Betcaligarcia 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike Ive been driving my pastor crazy about Paul !
@yochanan5506
@yochanan5506 3 жыл бұрын
How can you claim to know someone when you have never met that someone?
@daviddub
@daviddub 11 ай бұрын
The apostles didn't truly know the Son of God by meeting Jesus. They knew him, truly, as anyone truly knows him: by revelation, as Jesus said.
@yochanan5506
@yochanan5506 11 ай бұрын
@@daviddub John 1:49 Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you are the SON OF GOD; you are the king of Israel.” Jesus said, “You BELIEVED because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. Nathanael believed Jesus was the Son of God because of Jesus statement, not by revelation?
@daviddub
@daviddub 11 ай бұрын
@yochanan5506 if Nathanael truly knew the Son of God, it was not by meeting him. You will see that the Arm of the Lord, which you can see in Isaiah 53:1+ is a prophetic term for the Christ, the Son of God, is revealed. You will see also that Jesus told Simon son of Jonah (called Peter) that flesh and blood did not reveal to Peter that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God Matthew 16:16-17, but the Father, which is in heaven, revealed it. And again, in John 12: 37-38 they did not truly believe, and truly know Him because of the miracles: that the prophecy might be fulfilled, referring to that Isaiah 53 reference I gave you above, "to whom hath the Arm of the Lord been revealed." So, you have 3 scripture references that Jesus is not known, not truly known, by flesh and blood. This is out of Jesus's own mouth in the Matthew and John references, and of the prophet Isaiah. But also, reason must demand that the Christ, the Son of God, is a spiritual reality, not a natural one. As it's written, the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit. How could they possibly know by mere natural means what he was spiritually (Christ, and Son of God)? He didn't tell them so at such a time.
@daviddub
@daviddub 11 ай бұрын
@yochanan5506 also, please read the text you quoted properly. Jesus did not say, meaning declare, that Nathanael had believed because he had told him he saw him under the fig tree." Jesus ASKED him, is this why you believe, because I said..." Then Jesus told him he would see greater things, then he speaks of heavenly things, that is, spiritual things.
@yochanan5506
@yochanan5506 10 ай бұрын
@@daviddub let’s go back to two important verses in John 1:45 and 1:48 Verse 45: Philip went to look for Nathanael and told him, “We have found the very person Moses and the prophets wrote about!….. Who was that person? The Messiah! Yes? Nathanael like most Jews were well aware of this. Now verse 48: How do you know about me?” Nathanael asked. Jesus replied, “I could see you under the fig tree before Philip found you.” This statement was the reason Nathanael believed. Hence his (Nathanael) declaration in verse 49: Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God (another title for Messiah); you are the king of Israel.” Followed by Jesus rhetorical question “You Believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree.
@the3lewisgirls
@the3lewisgirls 11 ай бұрын
Why do Paul lovers never teach Hebrews 10: 26-31 in proper context of the 'unintentional' sin offering in Lev 4, called out by name several times in Hebrews 10, along with Jesus' call for obedience, and prefer to bend to the evangelical surface doctrine of "just say a Jesus prayer and you are fine?"
@stephenallen4813
@stephenallen4813 Жыл бұрын
I hope you will answer mine because I find some of the evidence people are giving very compelling about Paul.
@daviddub
@daviddub 11 ай бұрын
Answer your what?
@stephenallen4813
@stephenallen4813 11 ай бұрын
@@daviddub my question down further in the comments. I'll repost it here
@stephenallen4813
@stephenallen4813 11 ай бұрын
@@daviddub I'm not trying to be argumentative but isn't there a possibility that Paul got all of this information from someone telling him in passing what Jesus had said maybe one of the apostles told people what happened at the last supper? I just think there's other ways that Paul could have gotten this information without getting it directly from Jesus. Not to mention Paul was literally trying to destroy Christianity before. Who is the false apostle spoken about to John in Revelation about the church in Ephesus? Who else went to Ephesus calling themselves an apostle other than Paul? Wasn't Paul turned away by the Ephesians? Didn't the holy Spirit forbid him not to go to Asia and he went anyway? I'm not a Bible scholar and I don't know anything about this I just really need some help as a Christian because it all seems awfully odd. Like why did Paul lie to people to get them to come to Christ, that doesn't seem right. Why did Paul treat the other apostles like they didn't matter saying stuff like he didn't care what they were appointed for and that he didn't need anything from them. What about the 12 tribes of Israel how does that work? Wouldn't Paul be the thirteenth apostle if you add in Mathias? Please help me because I'm lost. I don't know how to make sense of these things that seem to make sense when looking at Paul as not such a great guy.
@peterji3013
@peterji3013 5 жыл бұрын
For those of us who want to support Mike so that he can do this full time and take care of his family, I think maybe this might work. We've all got people to take care of and bills to pay but I think $1 is something we can do. I'm hoping there are enough of us out here that it will take care of him and his family to do this ministry.
@nicholasjames5181
@nicholasjames5181 5 жыл бұрын
peter ji this is a false ministry so hopefully not to many people actually pay this guy who should get a job and leave Bible teaching to real pastors!
@codyehmke1218
@codyehmke1218 5 жыл бұрын
Nicholas James he is not a false teacher.
@peterji3013
@peterji3013 5 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjames5181 James, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt here. If you are going to accuse someone as a false teacher you better make an argument otherwise, it's irresponsible speech and more seriously you are in danger of slandering another follower of Jesus Christ. That's serious. You better bring the evidence. He has tons of videos uploaded. People can make their own minds up. I have watched some and have yet to come across anything remotely in the false teacher ballpark. So not only should you as a follower of Christ back up your serious accusation but you need to also define your criteria for a false teacher.
@realdealdaveabramyk9005
@realdealdaveabramyk9005 4 жыл бұрын
Bankhead 1 there’s a difference between getting rich off of, and being taken care of. We can see in acts, and the epistles (look at Paul’s thank you a and greetings) that the church took care of the needs the apostles, and others ministering on behalf of the gospels. Mike has had some tough words for the prosperity preachers most famously represented by Joel olsteen.
@realdealdaveabramyk9005
@realdealdaveabramyk9005 4 жыл бұрын
Bankhead 1 I think that’s debatable, we see the early church did give (and give extravagantly in some cases like selling land) to support the gospel. I think the hard rule of a tenth shouldn’t apply, but the giving of our first fruits (off the top of the budget) is a good takeaway practice. All that said I do struggle with giving and really wish to do better, I think a lot of giving issues is a trust and security thing. Hopefully I can grow in this area as time goes on.
@user-oh5gz4ue6r
@user-oh5gz4ue6r Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Christendom has come to this. Can you imagine the amount of people that hear someone say "Paul was not an apostle" and then accept an incorrect set of beliefs for lack of better wisdom? And can you imagine the risk these deceivers are putting themselves into? The knowledgeable christian would just laugh them off, yet sadly he's been found missing most frequently. What a shame.
@koreyoneal2623
@koreyoneal2623 11 ай бұрын
Have you actually looked into the arguments against Paul ?
@user-oh5gz4ue6r
@user-oh5gz4ue6r 11 ай бұрын
@@koreyoneal2623 have you looked at yourself in the mirror? all of your grounding for truth is flawed
@adamguy33
@adamguy33 6 ай бұрын
​@@koreyoneal2623In the earliest days of the Christian church, the church was comprised predominately of Jews. In Acts chapter 8 the gospel spread to the Samaritans (who were ethnically mixed Jews-Gentiles), and many Samaritans received Jesus Christ as Savior. In Acts chapter 10, the apostle Peter was the first to take the gospel specifically to the Gentiles, and many received Christ as Savior. In Acts chapters 13-14, Paul and Barnabas had a very fruitful ministry among the Gentiles. All of these Gentiles turning to faith in Christ caused concern among the Jewish believers, first expressed in Acts 11:1-18, and the issues that caused concern were ultimately decided upon at the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15). The issues centered on two questions: Do Gentiles first have to become Jews before they can become Christians? Do Gentiles have to observe the Mosaic Law after they become Christians? The impetus for the Jerusalem Council is given in Acts 15, verses 1 and 5, “But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, ‘Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.’ . . . It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the Law of Moses.” Some Jewish Christians were teaching that Gentiles had to observe the Mosaic Law and Jewish customs in order to be saved. Since this teaching clearly contradicted the fact that salvation was by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone (Acts 15:11), the apostles and church leaders held the first Christian council to settle the issue. In verses 7-11, the apostle Peter spoke of his ministry with the Gentiles, as recorded in Acts chapter 10. Peter focused on the fact that the Holy Spirit was given to uncircumcised Gentiles in precisely the same manner the Holy Spirit was given to the apostles and Jewish believers on the day of Pentecost. This led Peter to the conclusion that there should be no “placing a yoke on the neck of the [Gentile] disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear” (Acts 15:10). Jesus’ half-brother James, who had become a leader of the church in Jerusalem, agreed with Peter and declared, “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God” (Acts 15:19). The Jerusalem Council then proceeded to give four “rules” that Gentile Christians should live by. These were not rules the Gentiles must follow in order to be saved. Rather, the rules were to build harmony between Jewish and Gentile Christians in the first century. The four rules the Jerusalem Council decided upon were that Gentile Christians should abstain from food polluted by idols, sexual immorality, the meat of strangled animals, and blood. The instructions were not intended to guarantee salvation but to promote peace within the early church. It is interesting that the issue the Jerusalem Council was dealing with is still very much an issue in the church today. There are groups still teaching that Christians must obey the Old Testament Law. Whether it is the Sabbath day or the food laws or all of the Old Testament Law outside of the sacrificial system-there are groups that declare observance of the Law is either required for salvation or at least a crucially important aspect of the Christian life. Sadly, these groups either completely ignore or grossly misinterpret the decision of the Jerusalem Council. The specific goal of the Jerusalem Council was to decide what aspects, if any, of the Old Testament Law Christians must observe. The Jerusalem Council, for the sake of melding the Jewish and Gentile cultures within the Antioch church, said that the Gentiles should eschew their former pagan practices associated with idolatry. There was no mention of the Sabbath whatsoever. Further, the Jerusalem Council made it abundantly clear that these rules were not requirements for salvation by reaffirming that salvation is by grace for both Jews and Gentiles (Acts 15:11). How many arguments would be solved if the church today would simply follow the principle set by the Jerusalem Council-limit your liberty for the sake of love?
@sulongenjop7436
@sulongenjop7436 Жыл бұрын
The Holy Spirit told Paul everything about Jesus!
@trojenell
@trojenell 9 ай бұрын
Paul was not there at the death and burial nor was he there when Christ spent time with the disciples after the Resurrection, where was Paul??? GOD is the Savior Isaiah 43 1-3
@yamabushiwarrior996
@yamabushiwarrior996 5 жыл бұрын
That statement that Jesus sinned because he turned over the money table and was angry was a little bit farfetched. But, to add to Mike's point Paul tell the Ephesians to be angry and sin Not. So it is possible to have righteous anger.
@peterji3013
@peterji3013 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, if yall think the $1 idea is doable, maybe click the thumbs up so everyone can get an idea if it will work.
@stevemoyer1909
@stevemoyer1909 Ай бұрын
Next time you attend a meeting in a 😮 is incorrectly called a church), pay close attention how many times paul's name is mentioned. Also, look at the first word in all 13 books of paul and notice what it is. Prayers for you to be led in Truth by the HOLY SPIRIT.
@heleniyahabukarsh513
@heleniyahabukarsh513 7 ай бұрын
You have to ask this in honesty. If someone tells you that they lie, and if they tell you they play pretend a lot, how much should you believe from them? How do you know what is truth and what is lie, what is real and what is a play? Romans 3:7, 1 Corinthians 9:22
@daveunbelievable6313
@daveunbelievable6313 5 жыл бұрын
The gospel according to Paul
@lutkedog1
@lutkedog1 2 жыл бұрын
The Lightning strike to Paul's head.
@jerrylong6238
@jerrylong6238 Жыл бұрын
Mike Winger, Paul never knew Jesus personally. He had a daydream about Jesus, and that's all.
@shanemcguire5347
@shanemcguire5347 Ай бұрын
No he had a vision on the road to Damascus I never met Jesus but he still filled me with the holy Ghost and I've heard his voice so yeah I have met him you don't have to meet them physically to know them when it comes to God Paul said he was born one out of due time
@brandonwhitfield1278
@brandonwhitfield1278 24 күн бұрын
..That’s not at all what the Scriptures say lol
@jerrylong6238
@jerrylong6238 24 күн бұрын
@@shanemcguire5347 Yeah, that makes you a fricken skitso. If you are hearing voices from people who do not actually exist, you are in bad need of professional help as soon as possible. Paul never received the help he needed and went on to cause millions of other weak-minded sickos to start a huge cult that has lasted for a couple of thousand years now. Schizophrenia is a very serious mental illness that shouldn't be taken lightly. That one poor old Schizophrenic Paul/Saul infected more innocent people than any other skitso in history. The only thing you got right is the fact you never actually met Jesus. But please don't feel like the Lone Ranger because nobody else on Earth has either, not even Paul/Saul. Like I stated before he just had a daydream about meeting Jesus. Gods, angels, spirits, Demons, and everything else religions come up with are only brain farts nothing real about any of it, except the terrible damage it does to society. But thanks to the internet and this new information age we are in now we should evolve out of religion soon. I can hardly wait myself. This nightmare has gone on long enough.
@francisboateng1257
@francisboateng1257 6 ай бұрын
Please can you teach me how you do this video
@junelledembroski9183
@junelledembroski9183 5 жыл бұрын
Some people think the brothers of Jesus were his step brothers. Joseph’s sons from a previous marriage.
@RUT812
@RUT812 2 жыл бұрын
Proof of that?
@whaddoyoumeme
@whaddoyoumeme 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as usual!
@lenorevelez6563
@lenorevelez6563 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor Mike for another great video. On your next live have your wife come on for a few minutes so we can meet her.
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 5 жыл бұрын
She’s probably way too nervous to do that. :)
@carmy_v
@carmy_v 5 жыл бұрын
@@MikeWinger If your wife is a bit nervous, please let the cat come sit in on the videos! I saw the ball of floof on another video and it made the video even more interesting. Thank you for taking the time to present quality Bible based content. I have only been watching for a few days now. I like the way you have set up the discussions, but most of all I enjoy that you deliver content with such patience and kindness so that the audience is more likely to listen and think, rather than take offense. The comment section seems to reflect the respect you show others when you do take a position on some matter in the Bible. It's refreshing and eliminates the anxiety that may come when watching a video where the comment section will be so hostile that it drives the stress levels up.
@stevenvanvuuren8394
@stevenvanvuuren8394 4 жыл бұрын
But in the last days " knowledge will be increased" And all hidden and in the dark will be revealed. The light will overpower the darkness and the truth revealved ...and every knee shall bow to the Lord. Till then remember our Lord " the world will be decieved" And the tares wont be removed till judgement . Would God turn his face from those who dont love the truth? Would the Lord allow false teaching right beside good doctrine ? Will the world be decieved by a false profit? Depends who you believe ..JESUS ....OR..... may you all ask and be guided by the spirit ... ( who Jesus sent to lead and guide us ) Its ok Jesus himself devoted only 30 YRS TO STUDY ! keep it up those who seek will find and those who knock ....a prayer and a blessing to all who are of the Lord
@llcoolray3000
@llcoolray3000 Жыл бұрын
If Jesus' response amounts to "yes, pay your taxes," then it isn't a clever response at all. It is clever because it sounds like he is saying to pay the tax, but he says give to Cesaer what is his (nothing) and give to God what is His (everything). The religious leaders could not argue against this teaching, and they couldn't convince the Romans he was saying not to pay taxes because to their minds the taxes belong to Cesaer which they heard Jesus say.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 9 ай бұрын
I agree. This is so OFTEN misinterpreted by clergy. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians... "Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar or not? Should we give or should we not give?" "Show me the tribute money," the Son of God tells them. They show him a coin. There's an image graven on it. Inscribed beside the image is a title. The image is of a man (a guy named Augustus). The coin's superscription in Latin reads, Filii Dei, 'the Son of God' "Who does this image belong to? And who does this title belong to?" This was not a question they had prepped for, and they fall into their own trap. And so in the audience of all the people, they answer, "they belong to Caesar" (They say that both the image and the title 'Son of God' belong to Caesar.) In light of this, the true Son of God says: "Give, therefore (by your reasoning), to Caesar all those things which (which you deem) belong to Caesar. And give to to God those things which belong to God" They now stand there holding a coin: mouths closed. With their own question thrown back at them in an astonishing way. As you put it, he managed to clearly answer the question showing both their hypocrisy and idolatry (and revealed the thoughts of their minds) AS WELL AS throw it back at them in a way that ensnared them in their own net. (Psa141:10) Mat22:22 > When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 9 ай бұрын
it really bothers me when self-styled theologians misrepresent our Lord.
@PaperclipProphets
@PaperclipProphets 9 ай бұрын
Jesus never spoke to Paul. Paul was a self appointed apostle. We need to focus on the words of our Savior, not the man who contradicts Jesus numerous times. Anyone can claim to hear from the Lord or see Jesus. We should not believe those who contradict what the Risen Messiah, even if it goes against what we’ve been taught.
@PaperclipProphets
@PaperclipProphets 9 ай бұрын
Mike, nice exegesis of Romans 14:14… Paul contradicts what Jesus says & by saying that Paul has some special insight from a man he never walked with is common in Christianity. Paul is not the author & finisher of my faith. Jesus Christ died for me & as such I choose to follow what HE said. I am grieved how easily Christians follow the teachings of others, especially when they directly contradict what Christ said. True saints of God will be persecuted in these last days, so seek discernment as to not lose your salvation 🙏
@brandonwhitfield1278
@brandonwhitfield1278 24 күн бұрын
Name a single contradiction.
@PaperclipProphets
@PaperclipProphets 24 күн бұрын
​@@brandonwhitfield1278 There are so many, please look into it and study to show yourself approved. Did Jesus ever say it was ok to eat food sacrificed to idols? No, but Paul did. How about calling someone "father"? Jesus said not to do it, yet Paul repeatedly calls men his sons as if he's their spiritual father. Read the words of Jesus then read the words of Paul and sense the difference in tone. Rome promoted Paul, Jesus never spoke to him or about him.
@LoveAcrossAmerica
@LoveAcrossAmerica Жыл бұрын
If he knew Jesus, he would have quoted him more than once. Also, he had 3 different stories about his experience on the road to Damascus. (No two are alike) Jesus said "many will come in my name" and I think the light he saw was satan who masqueraded as Jesus so he could fool the masses. After all, he is called an angel of light.
@Captain_Fantasy
@Captain_Fantasy Жыл бұрын
Except Paul is the one that wrote that in 2nd Corinthians. I have my doubts though because Paul didn't know Jesus's teaching to test all spirits to see if they were from God so his vision could have been demonic and he would not have been able to discern it. We expect Mormons to question Joseph Smith's visions and we expect Muslims to question Muhammad's visions, so I think as Christians we should rightly question Paul's visions. I just find it surprising more scholars aren't doing this and most people that are proponents of Paul being a false apostle all over the place with their other views. If Paul is an author of confusion removing his writings should bring clarity, but it seems to bring more confusion.
@daviddub
@daviddub 11 ай бұрын
​@@Captain_Fantasy it is Peter who wrote of Paul's writings in all his epistles, some of which is hard to be understood, that they that are unlearned and unstable pervert Paul's writings to their own distruction, as they do other scriptures.
@lightoftheworld5455
@lightoftheworld5455 11 ай бұрын
Yeah good point. Apostle James quoted a Lot of what Yeshua say. Word for word and he quoted torah. Paul does quote torah and prophets and psalms but it seems like he uses it to preach wrong doctrine.
@stevenvanvuuren8394
@stevenvanvuuren8394 4 жыл бұрын
Oh your Lords warning he took his short time to say ...like many many times...
@platzhirsch4275
@platzhirsch4275 Жыл бұрын
Great summary 👌 👏 👍
@marklevy9314
@marklevy9314 4 жыл бұрын
If Christians had followed James and Jerusalem church ie Torah for Jews, laws for gentile residing in Israel for non Jews, conflict between Jews and Christians would never have reached the levels they did. Paul's teachings were confusing, he infuriated the Jerusalem church and minimised the importance of the Torah for Jews. I can understand why he did this as he was an ancient "lefty" trying to bring Jews and non Jews together but ultimately opened the door for Torah hating gentiles to enter the church and bring in gentile anti semitism.
@MrEtzel81
@MrEtzel81 Жыл бұрын
I would only point out that anti-semitism at that time would be synonymous with anti-nomianism.
@DH-kl3ob
@DH-kl3ob 5 жыл бұрын
If we can clearly show how Paul lies using his own letters, why would you trust a single word he says?
@rivereuphrates8103
@rivereuphrates8103 2 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, it is Zizek that made me reassess Paul after years of deriding him as a conman or unhinged liar. His appraisal of Paul's accomplishment in developing doctrine and the Gospel message as a unified project (one of universal, transnational, transhistorical, transtemporal import) made me take a closer look at Paul the apostle and theologian and eventually martyr and made Christianity a viable path to me again. All it takes is one altered perspective, and a lifetime of handwaving and negativity can be tipped aside and the floodgates open. I understand Badiou has also written extensively on Paul but I haven't ever read him, I'm sure his take is interesting at the very least.
@crochester8187
@crochester8187 Жыл бұрын
Jesus said Matthew 5:17 - (NRSV) 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. It is very confusing because Paul in his letters directly contradicts what Jesus said. Paul said Romans 6:14 - (NRSV) 14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 9 ай бұрын
Matthew 23:23 now see Galatians 3:12
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 9 ай бұрын
you use the NRSV which translates those two verses consistently, but most other modern versions, those designed for evangelicals, render the word πίστις inconsistently between those two verses. Hmmmm wonder why? 🤔 (see the KJV, Young's Literal, RSV or NRSV for consistent translation between those two verses)
@ilovegod7539
@ilovegod7539 3 жыл бұрын
One misconception most Christians have which is why I believe you have the Paul skeptics in Christianity is that Paul taught against the law. Paul only spoke against the law and that it does not save you other than that he’s teachings Align with Jesus in the Old Testament the way it should be.
@theseed3402
@theseed3402 9 ай бұрын
Paul is a self proclaimed apostle with no named witnesses. There are 12 apostles according to Jesus listed in Matthew 19:28, not 13, the requirement to replace Judas Iscariot is listed in Acts 1:21-26 spoken of by Peter himself, after which they elected Mattias as the replacement of Judas. Jesus' apostles numbers 12 in total: this is also confirmed in the book of Revelation 21:12-14. Peter, the man who Jesus said "I will build my church upon this rock" to in Matthew 16:18, was the apostle to the gentiles listed in Acts 15:7, but Jesus said he would be taken captive in John 21:18, so then his church by proxy had been prophesied to have been taken captive.paul hijacked Peter's responsibility that the gentiles might hear from his lips and believe. Also the rest of the 10 remaining apostles (Judas was dead at the time, Mattias was not yet elected) they too were charged with going out to all nations (Translated from greek: "Ethnos" this means heathen, gentiles) to teach in the way of the Father/Son, Holy spirit and to obey everything jesus had commanded them to do, Matthew 28:18-20. James and the Elders and the other apostles also gave gentiles basic instructions - such as what is listed in Acts 21:18-28 (verse 25 specifically for the gentiles) where paul is called out for teaching apostasy contrary the things he should have taught indicated by in Acts 15:19-20 and Acts 21:25 about how the gentiles shouldn't bear the yoke of the Jews, but rather stick to certain laws... not "grace"(which is mercy) by paul's idea of faith alone, which goes about as far as acknowledging Jesus as you would Santa claus. paul was teaching the Jews who stayed among the gentiles to forsake Moses and even the EVERLASTING Covenant of circumcision described in Genesis 17:4-14... which if Jew neglected, they would be cut off from Abraham's blessing... cut off from a blessing from the God of the living: Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. After paul was called out for teaching apostasy(lawlessness, do as thou wilt, let no man judge in you in any matter of food or drink and so on), he tried to 1 Cor 9:20-22 his way out of it (to the Jew he became a Jew to win the Jew etc...) by going through with what was known as a Nazarene vow, already discussed prior to this paragraph, listed in Acts 21:18-24. Rather than explain the law away like he usually did - calling it nailed to the cross indicated in Col 2:13-14(yet there are no reports of him being there at the crucifixion) calling the Law of God a "ministry of death" in 2 Corinthians 3:7 (when God's law are precepts which preserve our life according to King David in Psalm 119:93), rather than declaring that he and anyone else "in christ" was dead to the law by his own arbitrary means and arbitrary gospel of grace (mercy) through faith alone listed in Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19 - Rather than all of these things, paul was found trying to complete this vow by the Jews who knew he was teaching apostasy before he was able to complete it, 6 days into the ritual. He was rightfully thrown out and found himself standing before the courts for teaching apostasy, lawlessness, a crime punishible by death. He has no named witnesses to his conversion stories, his conversion stories do not line up, there's translator bias surrounding his text and even in 2 Peter where it is deceptively translated in english to make paul seem like too much of a genius to understand, when in reality Peter called his writings "dys-noetas" meaning to destroy understanding - which others would take and twist to their own destruction, like constantine in 324 AD when he used paul's lawless gospel to cause people to disregard the sabbath and worship his sun god on sunday. the paul we read about in the bible, who takes up more than half of the new testament, is an anti-christ Jesus prophesied would come in his name, performing signs and miracles even to fool the elect if possible: According to paul the sign of a true apostle is in signs and wonders or 2 cor 12:12, but according to Jesus, these are the sign of a deceiver, or Matthew 24:24, and he said not to believe the person who said they saw Jesus in the wilderness like paul had in Matthew 24:26. paul taught no parable, quotes nothing Jesus said(other than take this cup and drink, last supper), and Jesus himself never taught "grace" through faith but rather obedience for grace, and to build upon his teaching or else build upon sand (matthew 7:24-27), that the law wasn't over until heaven and earth disappeared and to exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees in order to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven(matthew 5:17-20) and that in the end, everyone is judged by their faith as well as their works (Revelation chapter 2 to 3, also in the final judgement - Revelation 21:8, 22:12.) Jesus said that the only way through to the Father is through the son and whoever doesn't gather with him only scatters. Ask Jesus how to be saved and you'll see that you must do the will of his Father in heaven. In order to do that you must worship him as he desires, by the power of his spirit or John 4:23-24, in order to obtain what is necessary to worship God is John 14:15-17. AND NO WE ARE NOT SAVED BY OUR OWN WORKS - there is only one who is good. Good deeds can only come from the holy spirit. We are saved by doing the work of the Father, or by doing the will of the Father, or as Jesus so adequately put it - his mother sister and brother are those who do the will of his Father in heaven or Matthew 12:49-50. If one wants to be saved, simply become family. If you want to inherit eternal life, look no further than Matthew 19:16-19, or God's law, precepts which preserve our lives as King David would say(Psalm 119:93).­­ Blessings
@yosefavraham9819
@yosefavraham9819 11 күн бұрын
Absolutely amazing comments! I am a Jewish believer in Yeshua as the Messiah. I do not think Paul was an apostle. I do not think his letters are scripture. Loved your comments. Thank you!
@allentobolewski7273
@allentobolewski7273 6 ай бұрын
Do you really think that THIS came from Yahuah??? For Paul Said, "That which I Speak is According to MY GOSPEL, I do NOT Speak After the Master, but as it were Foolishly. And I Think that I have the Spirit of Elohim, but if Any Man Thinks he Knows Anything, he Knows Nothing, so Bear with me in my Folly / Foolishness..." Rom 2:16 "...in the day when Elohim shall judge the secrets of men through יהושע Messiah, ACCORDING TO MY Good News." He made up his own story, and bragged about it. Something to think about. Shaul never said, "YHWH told me to say,,," or "YHWH sent me,,," We have no use for fake Paul who goes against Yahweh 40 times.
@T1tans777
@T1tans777 6 күн бұрын
This is what I’m telling people a lot too is I’m pretty sure that if you were to say that Paul was 100% perfect on everything then you would have to say that King Solomon was 100% perfect on everything but he really wasn’t because he committed acts of polygamy. Or you would have to say that King David forcefully making this woman cheat on her husband is a good thing. Which it isn’t. I can understand where Paul is coming from where everyone is free through Christ because that’s how that works but it definitely doesn’t feel right
@maygolmafie5523
@maygolmafie5523 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you Mike
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory Жыл бұрын
All these people who want to take Paul out of the Bible, you should just chuck out the whole thing, why should we believe anything out of it? Jesus didn’t write anything down himself, and surely we believe Old Testament prophets when they simply said “I am of the Lord” like why should we believe them? Because they said so? Also Peter affirms Paul so if you can believe Peter now either than what can you believe?
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 9 ай бұрын
Actually, you raise a good point. We should not believe any prophet just because he says "thus saith the Lord." Jeremiah 14:15 concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jeremiah 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. Jeremiah 23:32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 29:9 For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD. The Scriptures provide us ways to test / to prove whether a prophets words are from the Lord. Deut18 And if thou say in thine heart, *How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?* When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. AND If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder AND the sign or the wonder *come to pass,* whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. Balaam spoke true prophecies which have come to pass (Num24) but Balaam cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel teaching them to commit fornication and eat meats sacrificed to idols. (read Rev2:14) Though Balaam performed signs and wonders and his prophecies came to pass, yet he instructed the people in a way that the Lord had not commanded them. _ fulfillment of prophecy AND right doctrine If he fails either of these, he fails. And there are other tests.
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory 9 ай бұрын
@@AnHebrewChild yeah but someone wrote those tests, God inspired scripture the only thing he wrote with his hands were the first 10 commandments.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 9 ай бұрын
@@BrockJamesStory what's your point? Are you discounting those tests? Or suggesting they logically have no purpose? That seems odd. If you actually think about this, these tests aren't circular reasoning at all, since affixed to these tests are both doctrine / commandments & prophecies. (Things which themselves are subsumed under the tests). I mentioned other tests. "By the mouth of two witnesses, or three, shall every word be established" is another one. There are more. If you want to actually take God's word seriously, you'll have to engage your mind: a thing God calls you to do.(Mat22:37 & Mrk12:30) But... as a man once said, "If thou art, as many in this pretending age, a sign or title gazer, and comest into books as Cato into the theatre, to go out again, - thou hast had thy entertainment; farewell."
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 9 ай бұрын
@@BrockJamesStory concerning your statement, 'God inspired scripture,' indeed. Jesus states the Spirit spoke through David's psalms, "How then does David, by the Holy Spirit, call him Lord?" Mrk13 The reformers believed that scripture was inspired, but then they saw fit to determine that certain books previously called inspired by the Romans Church were not, in fact, inspired: so they took them out. Whether any or all or none of those books are inspired is a different discussion. The point is, that the question here is: what is the word that the Lord has spoken? How to identify it? By tradition of men? Or by the tests which God gives us. You've been shown three so far. Be blessed.
@BrockJamesStory
@BrockJamesStory 9 ай бұрын
@@AnHebrewChild that’s what I’m saying, but people deny Paul just because he said “I had a revelation from the Lord and people say why can we believe him? I would say mainly because Peter also confirmed his words were scripture
@GodlessGranny
@GodlessGranny 3 жыл бұрын
You destroy your own arguement when you admit Paul wrote before the gospels were written. This was my entire point. Paul never heard Jesus teach anything. The vast majority of what he knew of Jesus was all based on hearsay. THe rest is on a vision of his. While hearsay can be reliable, it isn't always. You spend much time talking about what Paul thought about Jesus based on what he heard from people who believed in Jesus. But this doesn't show that Paul knew Jesus, just that he knew what people were saying about Jesus. Thus he is creating a theology based almost entirely on hearsay.
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@lutkedog1
@lutkedog1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheShutterbug1968 The Egyptian god Amun (which is sometimes also spelled Amen)
@lutkedog1
@lutkedog1 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly Paul imagined Jesus after being hit in the head by lightning.
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 2 жыл бұрын
@@lutkedog1 that is interesting
@TheShutterbug1968
@TheShutterbug1968 2 жыл бұрын
@@lutkedog1 could be, or he was visited by another that was not Jesus.
@stevenvanvuuren8394
@stevenvanvuuren8394 4 жыл бұрын
I heard your weird conspiracy explanation ....what do you think of fruits ...and the clear warnings of deception of the world ...yes "even the elect if possible"
@dia8013
@dia8013 3 ай бұрын
Paul was a character composed by the Gnostic Marcion in the first canon of the new testament. The original person who many did quote in the first century is Simon the Magus, the father of all heretics. Even Tertullian said that Paul is the Apostle of the Heretics.
@PaperclipProphets
@PaperclipProphets 9 ай бұрын
Mike, nice exegesis of Romans 14:14… Paul contradicts what Jesus says & by saying that Paul has some special insight from a man he never walked with is common in Christianity. Paul is not the author & finisher of my faith. Jesus Christ died for me & as such I choose to follow what HE said. I am grieved how easily Christians follow the teachings of others, especially when they directly contradict what Christ said. True saints of God will be persecuted in these last days, so seek discernment as to not lose your salvation 🙏
@jessicaarmstrong7236
@jessicaarmstrong7236 4 жыл бұрын
Paul's gospel is based on his incorrect belief that Jesus came only to save the Jews. He then misquotes almost all the Prophets, and builds his gospel on his false interpretations. I watched your video on Calvinism, how can you deny Calvinism when Paul was indeed the first Calvinist? The 5 points are based not on Christ's teachings, but on the great deceiver Paul's. Paul taught Calvinism and his teachings have birthed even more heresy than that! Look to Christ for truth.
@KeepingWatch95
@KeepingWatch95 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@markmelds
@markmelds 2 жыл бұрын
🤦🏻
@SamAdamsGhost
@SamAdamsGhost Жыл бұрын
You clearly haven't read his letters then
@Highfivechurch
@Highfivechurch 4 жыл бұрын
Great word!
@elaineyoung9672
@elaineyoung9672 2 жыл бұрын
Reading Acts 6 : 9ff you read about the Synagogue of Freed men. Who came from amongst other places, Cilicia ... when i read that after watching this video I thought bingo, Saul must have been amongst them and was consequently amongst those who stoned Stephen.
@esmeraldagreen1992
@esmeraldagreen1992 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that this teaching that Paul was not a real apostle is spreading among so called Christians. An apostle is a more than a mere eyewitness of Jesus, he is also a witness of the divine sonship and redemptive mission of Jesus Christ. An apostle speaks the message or messages the Lord gives him and leads people to Christ. Paul had a vision of the Lord on the way to Damascus, repented of his sins and was converted, later on in another vision he was taken in what he calls the third heaven and saw and heard things he was forbidden to speak of. He received revelations from God all the rest of his life and worked tirelessly to bring both Jews and Gentiles to Christ. We only have fragmentary information on his life and we don't know exactly when he was called to the apostlehip, but called he was, the other apostles never disputed his right to be called so and to minister as such. So who are you to say differently. As for his supposed misquotes of the Old Testament, the Jews of Jesus times had access to other ancient records that did not reach us, as a matter of fact Jesus on occasion quoted scripture differently from what we have today so was he also lying? Some so called Christians believe that Paul, not Jesus organized a church, but a careful and prayerful examination of the Gospels, the book of Acts and the letters of the other apostles paint a different picture. Jesus did organize a church, not Paul or Peter or James or John, they were only his servants in the church. When Jesus organized his church it was perfect, but them after he went to heaven and the apostles were killed or died naturally, unholy men under Satan's influence hijacked it and turned into something not of God. Paul was not the founder of Christianity, Jesus founded it as he saw fit. Going back to Paul, if you don't like or understand his teachings and you dont think they are from God, instead of relying on scholars and experts and enemies of Christ, get on your knees and ask the Supreme Scholar and the Ultimate Expert to enlighten you and reveal to you what you wish to know or understand. You love to talk about a personal Savior then put your knees where your mouth is.
@Brandon-ju5pg
@Brandon-ju5pg Жыл бұрын
Wow very well said.
@HASIJOMAGNETON
@HASIJOMAGNETON 3 жыл бұрын
One can read the scriptures and understand that Paul was a false apostle. One can not contradict the Messiah and his Apostles. And yes Mike, you are “making it up” just like Paul.
@christhatsall8926
@christhatsall8926 3 жыл бұрын
Name ONE thing paul contradicts Jesus
@yochanan5506
@yochanan5506 3 жыл бұрын
@@christhatsall8926 Galatians 3:21 Is therefore the law contrary to The Promise of God? God forbid! For if a law had been given which was able to GIVE LIFE (eternal life), truly righteousness would have been by the law. Matthew 19:17 .......If you want to ENTER LIFE (eternal life), keep the commandments."
@KeepingWatch95
@KeepingWatch95 2 жыл бұрын
@@christhatsall8926 I can name alot that Paul writes that contadicts Jesus. However you ask for ONE. If your shown one, will you believe Jesus over Paul? If not how many things would you have to be shown to believe Jesus' sayings over Paul's?
@codyalexander3290
@codyalexander3290 2 жыл бұрын
@@KeepingWatch95 also God predicted Paul in Isaiah
@KeepingWatch95
@KeepingWatch95 2 жыл бұрын
@@christhatsall8926 _From even the very first claim by Paul to have met with Jesus on the way to Damascus is false per Jesus' foretelling and forewarning._ _Jesus forewarned of false prophets to come. Jesus told what they would claim and instructed not to believe them._ Matthew 24:23 *Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.* Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, *and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;* insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:25 *Behold, I have told you before.* Matthew 24:26 *Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert;* go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; *believe it not.* Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Note: Matthew 24:26 the word “Desert” also means wilderness.) G2048 ἔρημος erēmos er'-ay-mos Of uncertain affinity; lonesome, that is, (by implication) waste (usually as a noun, G5561 being implied): - desert, desolate, solitary, wilderness. (In Acts 9:3 Paul claims he met Jesus in the wilderness/desert.) Acts 9:3 And as *he journeyed, he came near Damascus:* and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: (Acts 9:3 the road to Damascus was in the wilderness. See 1 Kings 19:15 which records the way to Damascus is wilderness/desert.) 1 Kings 19:15 And the LORD said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria: (Note: 1 Kings 19:15 the Hebrew word “wilderness” H4057 also means desert.) H4057מִדְבָּר midbâr mid-bawr' From H1696 in the sense of driving; a pasture (that is, open field, whither cattle are driven); by implication a desert; also speech (including its organs): - desert, south, speech, wilderness. _If one truly believes Jesus' warning they can not believe Paul's false claim. The only way to believe Paul's story is true, one has to discredit Jesus' warnings and instructions as false._
@davidhutchins2600
@davidhutchins2600 7 ай бұрын
Why do people think that Paul didn't know Yeshua. He would've been witness to His whole ministry as he was the one who went after the church. He was never ignorent to Christ's ministry , join that with the revelation knowledge of Christ plus Paul's knowledge of scripture. It is such a ridiculous statement to say Paul never knew Christ or even to say he only knew him a little is foolish. Thanks Pastor Mike appreciate your sharing of the Word. Be blessed brother from Australia
@spiritofeli
@spiritofeli 7 ай бұрын
Because no one but Paul claimed Paul met Yeshua, also because most preachers and Pastors purposely ignore Acts chapters 21 through 24 because they incriminate Paul and destroy his gospel. The reason you will hear preachers say "Paul said" more than "Jesus said" is because Paul contradicts the teachings of of Jesus, so they say, "we teach more from Paul because he was sent to the Gentiles" Then they will teach about the things Paul said in accordance with Yeshua but they will not teach the parts that contradict in order to save faith and face. So I suggest we all read what Yeshua said about anyone who claims to have met Him in the desert in secret, and why He said "because you have been with me" We all must read and understand Acts 21 through 24 and what it really says was going on. And we must study the Church of Ephesus (Ephesians/Asia) and why The Almighty congratulates the jews of Ephesus for calling out false apostles and placing them on trial, and why He would tell those Christian converts from Ephesus to return to their first love (Torah/Tanakh), and do the "First Works" unless He turn against them. If we ignore this evidence in the bible it makes us no better than any other cult practice. An apostle is one who walked with Yeshua and was chosen to go. Only disciples who walked with Him for the 3.5 years and were taught personally are apostles. The 12 apostles represented the future chosen 10th that will be chosen from the 12 tribes according to Isaiah 6. A 13th apostle does not line up with scripture or prophecy, nor was he personally chosen by Yeshua during His 3.5 years of His Ministry in the flesh. Paul "Self Appointed" himself and admitted to lying in order to save "some." Yeshua never taught His apostles to lie to convert anyone. Infact He promoted Isaiah 6 which is the very reason He spoke in parables as not to lie and to only call those who were chosen. Paul said "To the poor I became poor, to the rich I was rich, to those with Torah I became as one under Torah, and to those without the Torah/Nomis I became as one not under Torah/Nomis (except the Torah of Yeshua?), I BECAME ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN that I might obtain SOME. That is not even close to what Yeshua or the 12 apostle taught. We do not attract pagans by pretending to be pagan. We do not attract worldly people by pretending to be worldly. That's what prosperity preachers do. If you here a preacher teach more from Paul's epistles than from the very words of our Creator in the flesh it is a red flag 🚩 that most ignore.
10 Questions with Mike Winger (Episode 23)
1:17:26
Mike Winger
Рет қаралды 49 М.
Как бесплатно замутить iphone 15 pro max
00:59
ЖЕЛЕЗНЫЙ КОРОЛЬ
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН
Playing hide and seek with my dog 🐶
00:25
Zach King
Рет қаралды 33 МЛН
Cool Items! New Gadgets, Smart Appliances 🌟 By 123 GO! House
00:18
123 GO! HOUSE
Рет қаралды 17 МЛН
ЧУТЬ НЕ УТОНУЛ #shorts
00:27
Паша Осадчий
Рет қаралды 9 МЛН
The Trinity: Can We Defend it Biblically?
1:25:50
Mike Winger
Рет қаралды 1,4 МЛН
Understanding the Apostle Paul: A Two Hour Conversation
2:05:26
James Tabor
Рет қаралды 62 М.
Did Paul and Jesus Have the Same Religion?
25:45
Emma Thorne
Рет қаралды 60 М.
Responding to Calvinist Arguments for Limited Atonement
1:26:21
Mike Winger
Рет қаралды 227 М.
20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 46)
1:30:09
Mike Winger
Рет қаралды 148 М.
10 Questions with Mike Winger (Episode 7)
1:11:41
Mike Winger
Рет қаралды 219 М.
The Complete Story of Paul: The Apostle to the Gentiles
30:13
Bible Unbound
Рет қаралды 5 МЛН
20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 105)
1:49:15
Mike Winger
Рет қаралды 165 М.
Why Apostle Peter calls Paul "the man who is my enemy"
10:50
Blogging Theology
Рет қаралды 73 М.
Как бесплатно замутить iphone 15 pro max
00:59
ЖЕЛЕЗНЫЙ КОРОЛЬ
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН