The Lansen is still better than average, but yes the AAT60 is better. Lansen has better mobility, because of its horsepower to weight ratio. Which makes it feel so much better for peaking and firing, as well as getting up to speed to reposition that much quicker.

I think nothing changed. The strongest aspects of the Lansen were always: 1. Size 2. Camo 3. Power-to-Weight The gun is good enough for what it is but the platform is so small and sneaky that combined with the fantastic camo and insane hp/t it can be anywhere and everywhere on the map, which lends itself to the "sniper" medium playstyle so well! AAT60 is better stat-wise, but its american butt is twice the size (which is a big deal for a paper medium!)... For the average player the AAT60 is probably gonna be better. But I love to play around the very unique strengths of the Lansen and be a little pest with a hard hitting cannon.

Vivi is watching HD "vacation" videos, while Skill is lagging playing WoT. 😜

Lags keep happening to me and its insanely annoying in tournaments and stuff from 140 fps to 20 for second when enemy appears in any distance which kills shoots sometimes

Every new premium tank is better then ones before, poor amx cdc 😢😂

Lag keeps happening to myself quite a few times in battles

The lansen will always be a 4 in my heart.

I think what Skill is trying to say is....power creep is real. It isn't that the Lansen is somehow now worse but instead the bar has moved so rating need adjusting according to the bar set. Like 10 years ago the Defender would be a five star top of the line tier 8 heavy that would destroy in pros hands but was also massively beginner friendly, these days it is a great beginner premium for sure but it is far outclassed by so many tanks and the rampant gold spam.

If wot has told me anything stats don't mean everything. Sometimes you can play 2 similar tanks and the one with worse stats just feels better and performs better. Seems to be each tank is different for everyone :D

Released AAT60 reminded me of my beloved, long not played Lansen - i re-equipped it and can feel all the love again. Standard shells are almost half the cost compared to AAT60.

I'm actually experiencing these lagg spikes too

What a blyadiful session that was! Great play, Skiiieeeeel

I don't agree with the evaluation since Lansen is way faster than this new tank

3:34 me when I'm playing T-10 on top once in a year, thinking I have armor.

Nothin changed, no need to cut balls to Lansen, that mobility and acceleration is mega useful and fun. Lansen was always played with gold because of ammo speed of APCR...

I have purchased Lansen C about 6 months ago and I was so surprised how nice it feels to play with it.

Vytautas has to talk more about removing one star from vehicle ratings. It works pretty well

I need to say this straight in the face. My par-a-meter for enjoying the skeeeel videos, is very, very, very nice. I am a bit paranoid at the same time, that I cannot see them all. I am trying to craft a better angle, to watch them more. Not much what I can change about this, I love the skeeeel video with all my heart.

Lansen C is more agile, has better camo, and is on smaller platform, so it has his advantages.

IMO why change the Lasen rating if it performs well? If you are rating it off of other tanks then all heavies from tier IX down should have their ratings dropped when compared to the BZ 176! A tank should be rated by it's performance alone and not how it performs compared to another tank.

I'm from UK and certainly last few weeks the lag has been considerably worse. Sometimes on the 30 second count down to start i can get 2 entries on the screen where i am actually 'in the game' and then 10 seconds of freeze...Not confidence inspiring 😬

What a great Paris game, sad to see the Lansen is not "meta" because of the new med

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Bravo and well done. I feel like like Lansen doesnt miss often for me. The AAT60 feels like I miss more. But overall I like both.

You should add half ratings as other people mentioned in the comments. 4 stars lansen, 4.5 stars AAT60. AAT60 is good in many aspects, but the lack of mobility holds it off, especially in late game when you need to relocate fast or early game when you need to reach a certain position. One trades gun for mobility, the other one viceversa

Hey almighty Skill, Lansen was always one of my beloved tanks and I disagree with your opinion about the Lansen in comparison to the AAT60 eventho I saw the similarity’s myself. Maybe it’s only me, but I think that lansen is far better shaped in order to bounce couple of shots. (eventho the armor isn’t reliable either) and the camo is also very good on the lansen. To be honest the camo of AAT60 isnt bad, but lansen feels a little superior in my eyes. But the main reason I prefer the lansen is, because of the insane mobility. The lansen got one of the best power to weight ratios and has a better topspeed. Eventho the gun may be trollish from time to time it gives me similar vibes to the Leopards and I enjoy that a lot. Lansen doesn’t need a turbo in order to be able to relocate fast and can drive uphill as fast as AAT60 downhill. Due to this I think it’s not fair to rank lansen as average. He is kinda outdated in terms of the penetration and gun handling, but is still a decent tank and deserves better then average in my eyes. Have a good day Baboon King 🍌

Nice game skill, 11 kills you got all team almost

Good intro! 👍🏻👍🏻 Useful information

Skills DAD: SON, I don't want to see a tier X in your eye! :)

Mine has been lagging for 4 days and stopped out of no were yesterday. I think a micro patch messed something up and was fixed a couple days after.

Had the Lansen for years... Good overall vehicle.

lansen is one of my favorite tier 8 premiums. love it

Crazy game. GG

In Paris your Map had delay did you notice that? Or is normal?

Lansen C is one of my favorit premium tank. Thx very much for your video my king Baboon.

one of my favorite tanks. I have killed 8 with it on a ridgeline. Speed, good punch, what is not to like.

hello skill im looking foward to see u playing whit TS-60

The lag for me has been horrendous lately. I’ve been trying everything from making sure everything is updated to lowering my graphic settings and disabling lots of features for better performance. Everything helped the lag be slightly less common but it still happened. As of now though I have had zero lag, so I’m not sure what gives… must be the servers

There's a lot of lag recently. I have missed a lot of shots because of it. The shots aren't going when I want them to etc.

I wouldn't decrease Lansen rating, there are things in which it is better than AAT60 and even if the new tank is more powerful, the difference is not so big. If there would be more tanks significantly better than Lansen (either by releasing new or buffing old and leaving him out), then you could say it has been powercreeped and deserves lower rating. But changing ratings every time better alternative for tank is released is imho pointless, rather updating ratings after some time, when META changes a lot (read as powercreep), is a better idea.

I like this 3D style for Lansen. And it's OK tank too . 🙂 Oh. And I'll buy (umm... probably) AAT60 but not from the lootboxes. Actually, I'd say that Lansen, so far, is much better, because you can purchase it from the store (from time to time, quite often) and you DO NOT HAVE TO GAMBLE to get it !

I noticing a lot more lag lately in the game , and my friend constantly have between 100-200 ping, he never had that before this update

Lol skill has a quickybaby moment who compared the 2 tanks a week ago if I’m not mistaken 😂

I think the biggest problem of the Lancen is the huge paper turret. Sure AAT60 have paper turret too, but it's harder to hit on medium and long distance. Also Lancen takes ages to aim wich is no bueno for me

Hey, Skill! I'm not sure you are right in downgrading the Lansen to average: maybe it is not as good as the AAT60, but it remains far better than most of the other tier 8 medium tanks rated average, so in order to avoid a (small) distorsion of ratings, you create a much bigger one which can confuse casual players in the choice for example of purchasing new Premium tanks. For me, 2 "good" ratings for both Lansen and AAT60 would probably have been better reflecting the situation.

That new aat60nhas ridiculous gun handling. I'm getting snap shot left and right as well as penetrated 😅

your ping is 300+ during the lag.

Amazing game!

it is still a fine tank, still not bad enough to keep company to Object 252U in the bond store...

well played

Lansen is my fav non auto loader premium. It’s not as good as AAT, but Lansen simply feels good to play. It’s super nimble, super responsive to your WASD controls. I don’t think I have the same responsive feeling on any other medium

It may not be as good as it's new counterpart, but it looks cooler by far.

0:00 Good day Skill, im pretty courious what is happening after AAT60 release, because it a better lansen, lets go! EDIT: 12:15 i wish for my self i will get some tourists in my game to

Lansen C Nerf incoming 😅

Yes speshul 😅 maybe we should all drive out all the Lansens that we have. Gravediggertime it is 🎉

skiiieeeeeeeel i miss your vlogs

8:45 for me the game is unplayable at night because i have these "lag spikes" every 2 second and my tank keeps basically teleporting...

got my Lancen in Paris

Amazing performance. I have only gotten eleven kills once.

Damn, couldve been 12 if that shot on the T-103 would've hit...

i saw 352 ping spike my lovely king... you are right

aat60 sadly outclassed lansen for me, but still they're good in own way. The only things lansen do better on paper is mobility, quite platform and it have -10 gun depression everywhere, rest its just outclassed. Even having better mobility in sweedish medium, aat still is a lot better for peeking and shooting no matter what situation is making it more universal and brutal in many situations (mainly because its tiny turret when facing + gun handling with enough mobility: this combo is truly deadly to the point having no armour isn't issue at all, still behaving like hulldown monster in some way). Lansen on other hand can use mobility just to be more sneaky cuz aat have quite issue with it, in some situations is easier for this tank to sabotage enemies but with accuracy problem, can be more valuable in certain situations later in battle. Still good overall, just became outclassed, and its a lot cheaper in gold heh.

I don't believe it! /Victor Meldrew Love you Skill :)

Skill its not your internet, I have that lag too. Happens often when I walk infront and try to stop but the tank keeps going for another half second. Really weird. Well maybe its just both our internets 😅

all stars were aligned, his brain was working, matchmaking was good but only his hairline ran away :O

I think the lancen should keep the 4 star rating and the new tank should be 5 stars honestly.

The only premium tank that I want and still don't have. Maybe besides AMX Cda 105. I'd gladly give my LT-432, Object 703 II and 50tp Prot for it if it was possible.

My best was 14 kills with T-54 in a real game, no disconnect farming. Was many years ago in early days of the game.

Do this with a CS-52 LIS please?

I find that Lansen is much more flexible.

Hi Skill, I do have Lacen and it is one of my most played tanks and I still think is 4, AAT60 I do not have but I will buy one when come in shop, I didn't buy boxes!!! AAT60 is better for what I see from you and others.

I love the Lansen but I cannot deny that it is increasingly hard to play in today's meta

Still love lansen, it's a sneaky bugger

That was luck that the Obj.274a in Paris was a bot. If he would play correct and go to the city, the Lansen would struggle. Thats a good example that even the best tanks are useless if the player is bad.

Lansen is one of my favorite tanks, but its complete lack of armor makes it bad on certain maps

On the end of first battle you were running 300 ping

3:39 it is "nahhui" not "nanihhu" :D

the problem with aat60 is its terrible top speed compared to the lansen

I like, not love the Larsen C. Very good mobility, fairly accurate, and good alpha for a tier 8 medium. The other thing is it is a relatively small tank meaning it can hide in smaller spots, and is a small target. But, to me there are many tier 8 mediums that are better, not just the new one.

I agree but lansen still has the edge on mobility

For me, Lansen C was always 3 overall with a 3 gun, even before the release of AAT60

The new tank may well be better on paper but that doesn't mean the player base knows how to use it. It's competition but it doesn't make the Lansen less of a tank. I think you're being harsh, but what do I know 😂

Skill - Lansen is finished Lansen - GTFO!

I love lancen c , i marked him to 100% , but this aat60 IS better reload Time , pénétration of ammo , speed ammo , better view range better cammo , beter dpm , better aim Time , beter dispersion... Wouahou , but i dont buy loot box , because now a day i spot wot since décember and winter lootbox

That 11 kills was simply disgusting :D Paid actors :D:D

Maybe Lansen should stay in the good category and AAT60 be rated as epic?

I would keep Lansen at 4 stars! It is much more mobile and it feels more nimble than AAT60, compensation for worse gun performance... but when you think about it, in reality all those stats you speak of, are not so important. Lansen gun handling is very very good comparing with numbers, he snaps like nuts! Difference is DPM but taking into consideration the mobility, not worse at all!

At least lansen still has better mobility and camo

Great gameplay Skill. Lag spikes are happening to everyone. It’s got to be a WG,ing bug. Very irritating.

AAT60 has better stats, but in reality, I still enjoy the Lansen more, and the gun does not feel much worse than the AAT60, despite the stats saying otherwise. AAT60 is so sluggish, even with a turbo. I think the Lansen has better sigma than AAT60.

Lancen is still 4/5, it has waay better mobility

It’s Not your Internet Skill, Ever Since the 1.21 update the Servers have been Super Laggy. US Central Sever had a Micropatch a couple of days ago but it Barely Helped

Skiiiiil Lasen is Lansen i dont care about super duuper star trek tank i love my lansen because the nice Alpha, gun depression and camo

@skill4ltu I know why you got 11 kills. You scared the poor tank by reducing it in the index from "good" to "average" :D

i got these 2 tanks (lansen c & AAT60)) at the same time in the orc lootboxes and sinse then i have always compared them together...AAT60 is wayyyyyy better! Lansen gun is troll and view range subpar.

Compared to the autoloading mediums at tier 8 lancen was always average.

No u'r right the AAT60 is just a better Lansen C

lansen C dosnt deserve the nerf.. its still more mobile and doesnt need a turbo. still smaller. and the AAT60 has a stupid future skin thats just bullshit.

with your rating logic you have to rate all "average" tanks to 2 stars since the lansen is the new "average" in your logic... I think it will take a few years when powercreep is far enough that the lansen is really considered a "average" tank in wot.

I think its time for WG to make tier VIII. premium tank not seening tier VI. tanks. at all in MM. like if you want them to even consider this.