How Sony (nearly) killed their golden goose: Helldivers 2 | This Week In Videogames

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@JDLaney-zk4wb
@JDLaney-zk4wb Ай бұрын
Too bad there wasn’t a huge studio closure just yesterday before this script was finished. That would be bad timing.
@frankvandermerwe1487
@frankvandermerwe1487 Ай бұрын
LOL!
@RetryOfHealGuy
@RetryOfHealGuy Ай бұрын
Would ShillUp even report on it?
@easygoingdude9990
@easygoingdude9990 Ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@ratchetryda
@ratchetryda Ай бұрын
Can't even use the timing as an excuse..it's just the new system he's got in place that caused this to fall through. This definitely deserves to be covered this week imo
@dragonwell7747
@dragonwell7747 Ай бұрын
Nice bait
@battlep0t
@battlep0t Ай бұрын
Sony "I've had the worst PR of any publisher this week" Microsoft _hold my beer_
@aguinchico6536
@aguinchico6536 Ай бұрын
Not really, they didn't lose anything they got exactly what they wanted They just use one game as a scapegoat to push it forward for other games. Y'all just fell for that...
@JardsonJean
@JardsonJean Ай бұрын
@@aguinchico6536 in terms of PR, Microsoft was way worse...
@Ziggyvu
@Ziggyvu Ай бұрын
@@aguinchico6536wow look at this expert over here 😂😂😂 shut up
@cemarz
@cemarz Ай бұрын
Microsoft bought everything just say they have it. But they have no idea what to do with it and they have no attachment to it outside of a fiduciary duty to shareholders.
@suzuplaza
@suzuplaza Ай бұрын
@@aguinchico6536xbox just shutdown one of their most beloved teams
@yoyothemanman
@yoyothemanman Ай бұрын
Isn't it magical how all those _"technical issues"_ and _"safety concerns"_ disappeared once Playstation realized the backlash they caused?
@Darion350
@Darion350 Ай бұрын
They were either excuses or it just wasn't worth losing a lot of the player-base over.
@dangerousmindgames
@dangerousmindgames 23 күн бұрын
Too bad xbox couldn't see that hint too lol
@easygoingdude9990
@easygoingdude9990 Ай бұрын
Back when I used to be very active with Tekken 7 I got my ass handed to me by an Eddy player. After a massive losing streak I turned and said to him, “I don’t know anything about this character”. To which he replied, “I don’t know anything about any character”
@ssj4922
@ssj4922 Ай бұрын
If Sony is Drunk and Nintendo is High, then Microsoft is straight up suicidal, genuinely don't know what they're doing closing the studio to what is arguably their greatest game in years
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 Ай бұрын
Meanwhile Valve be out here like...
@samreddig8819
@samreddig8819 Ай бұрын
Because the big name left. And as awesome as Hi-fi is, i don't think it was very profitable. Probably why its releasing on PS5. To recoup more costs
@Wailingllama
@Wailingllama Ай бұрын
​@@samreddig8819and yet it's never the execs that are accountable for...not promoting their more niche games enough?
@themagictoaster2472
@themagictoaster2472 Ай бұрын
Execs are afraid to take chances on new things, even if they’re profitable. They’d rather hash out the same old formulas because it’s what’s guaranteed to make a profit. They’re motivated by short sighted gains because it makes them look good to shareholders and they speedrun that 5 million bonus even if it costs good people their livelihood.
@Ziggyvu
@Ziggyvu Ай бұрын
You tried way to hard to be edgy😂
@dblundz
@dblundz Ай бұрын
Yup steam giving refunds was a GOAT move. Hit Sony where it hurt
@Dr.Akakia
@Dr.Akakia Ай бұрын
All hail to lord Gabe!
@KABLAMMATS
@KABLAMMATS Ай бұрын
Should all in for the refund tbh, after switch and bait on ff rebirth, stellar blade, and now this whole psn bs in helldiver 2, everyone should avoid Soyny all together
@SIrIvanErection
@SIrIvanErection Ай бұрын
@@KABLAMMATSafter all the Microsoft studio closures everyone may as well ignore Microsoft completely…. Now you can see how stupid that argument is, if everyone took that stance we would never buy another game again
@iDEATH
@iDEATH Ай бұрын
@@KABLAMMATS Yep. I really want Stellar Blade, was really looking forward to it coming to PC, even after the censorship (mods ftw!), but this Helldivers and PSN thing has me really hesitant to buy any Soyny published game in the future. Maybe if they start behaving themselves I'll reconsider by the time Stellar Blade makes it to PC. Soyny is going to have to be really well behaved, though!
@RunePonyRamblings
@RunePonyRamblings Ай бұрын
​@@Dr.AkakiaFriendly reminder that Valve had no refund policy whatsoever prior to being sued by the Australian government, and fought tooth and nail to avoid implementing one.
@sebbb_ch
@sebbb_ch Ай бұрын
Somewhere in the distance, Dunkey sheds a single tear at the news of another scrapped Donkey Kong project.
@luca_lwls
@luca_lwls Ай бұрын
Just a quick throw-in: Arkane Austin "only" made Prey and Redfall, Dishonored was made by Arkane Lyon, which is still active (for now), so at least we're still getting Dishonored, even though Prey was also a masterpiece
@TOnySchAnneL9000
@TOnySchAnneL9000 29 күн бұрын
No, Austin assisted with Dishonored 1. They were a satellite studio until after Dishonored released and then they scaled up.
@Ol_Keefus
@Ol_Keefus Ай бұрын
Alan Wake 2 could recoup its costs in a single day on Steam
@mikek9491
@mikek9491 27 күн бұрын
Though another issue may be its unusually high system requirements making it unplayable for large swaths of PC gamers. My own PC can comfortably handle any modern or "AAA" game at medium settings or so, *except* for Alan Wake 2.
@Ol_Keefus
@Ol_Keefus 27 күн бұрын
@@mikek9491 all the more reason to make it available to the biggest audience of PC enthusiasts
@XShrike0
@XShrike0 26 күн бұрын
It isn't about making money. It is about spiting Steam. Sweeny really, really, hates Valve.
@blackrahk2037
@blackrahk2037 25 күн бұрын
Games do not sale like that on Steam. People talk about Helldiver's 2 like its sold 10 Million units on Steam in one day. Spider Man sold 33 million on PlayStation, 1.5 million on Steam. Sony says the sales for Helldiver's 2 is close to 50/50, PS5/Steam, which is the exception. Why do you think GTA6 doesn't even have PC release window? The biggest game EVER not going to be on PC at launch. Single player games on PC is just feeding the Pirates for not much return.
@Ol_Keefus
@Ol_Keefus 25 күн бұрын
@@blackrahk2037 I hadn't considered the console angle, but it still doesn't help sales on PC to not include the premier storefront on that platform
@DarkStryder360
@DarkStryder360 Ай бұрын
RIP Tango Gameworks
@milramas
@milramas Ай бұрын
I just want to make a gigantic katamari ball of all the funko pops in existence and throw it into the sun
@BartvG88
@BartvG88 Ай бұрын
Please do
@chriswihulu
@chriswihulu Ай бұрын
That feels needlessly cruel, what did the sun ever do to deserve that?!
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Ай бұрын
I was today years old when I found out there was a group of people that hate Funko Pop's but I don't understand the hate, is it simply because there's so many?
@brandonvelde5774
@brandonvelde5774 Ай бұрын
​@@philbarton2832 It's mostly just because they're overpriced and look ugly as balls.
@chriswihulu
@chriswihulu Ай бұрын
@@brandonvelde5774 I see them as the Beanie Babies of today, only they saturated the market so much, that no one wanted them in the end.
@SystemBD
@SystemBD Ай бұрын
31:51 Ouch! My palms hurt just looking at Aloy zipping down the rope with her bare hands.
@Mediados
@Mediados 29 күн бұрын
I don't see any hands, just the bloody, unrecognizable remains of what hands used to be.
@RasenRendanX
@RasenRendanX Ай бұрын
Hold on. Skill up didn't mention Tunic is also free on ps+. I got that with FIFA 24 And Ghost runner 2 instead of the destiny expansion. A lotta ppl seem to love Tunic so I thought it was important to mention
@DirkMcThermot
@DirkMcThermot Ай бұрын
I'm just as shocked as you are. Tunic tends to get lumped in with the (loose) "knowledge-based games" label similarly to Outer Wilds. Can't believe that one flew under the radar in this video!
@bencarlson4300
@bencarlson4300 Ай бұрын
“Instead of the Destiny expansion” lol, very fair
@LordSturm44
@LordSturm44 Ай бұрын
Came here to comment this, hopefully he comes back around to it and mentions it next week! Love Tunic and everyone with PS+ should play it :)
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Ай бұрын
Tunic is also the most critically acclaimed game out of the bunch so it is baffling how Ralph missed this
@StillWeRide
@StillWeRide 29 күн бұрын
Ralph has dementia confirmed
@wjaston4161
@wjaston4161 Ай бұрын
RIP Tango Gameworks and Arkane Austin
@nickguarino7592
@nickguarino7592 Ай бұрын
Shame Arkane Austin will only be remembered for Redfall rather than the excellent Prey.
@chriswihulu
@chriswihulu Ай бұрын
​@@nickguarino7592 and only to mock MS, so its double sad.
@esaedvik
@esaedvik Ай бұрын
@@nickguarino7592 Which failed cause Arkane Austin was forced to waste their time saving Fallout 76...
@selectionn
@selectionn Ай бұрын
rest in piss, you will not be missed, they enter the gates of hell with redfall and the mess they made themselves into.
@binglybingler2598
@binglybingler2598 Ай бұрын
​@esaedvik they were also forced to make redfall in the 1st place
@erikm8373
@erikm8373 Ай бұрын
Also of note in Destiny 2 is that in addition to Lightfall being on PS+, Bungie themselves are making the previous 3 expansions and the 4 Lightfall seasons accessible to all players until Final Shape.
@Tjways
@Tjways Ай бұрын
I disagree with you on one thing, I thought Arrowhead joking about cape was pretty cool
@leon320gb
@leon320gb Ай бұрын
I agree with you, it will also be a reminder to sony & to the players, of the extent sony's greed
@selectionn
@selectionn Ай бұрын
agreed. it serves as a painful reminder for sony and arrowhead. kind of like a trophy celebrating how much power the consumer has, when everyone thought consumers were powerless walking wallets.
@echinas0908
@echinas0908 29 күн бұрын
Agree. I don't understand any opinion that says you cannot joke about bad stuff (other than actually terrible or disgusting things).
@marzialalfonzocanada888
@marzialalfonzocanada888 Ай бұрын
its so baffling why they sold HD2 on 177 regions without PSN services in the first place
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 Ай бұрын
Likely incompetence. Whichever Sony team is in charge of making the Steam page and listing the game likely checked all the region boxes and didn’t even bother looking at the game requirements or didn’t cross check the game requirements with regions that could make a PSN account. Or even more lazy reason, they checked all the region boxes and thought “oh well the PSN requirement will sort it out”. Then when the game bypassed the PSN requirement, well they sort of found out this weekend.
@samthecaribbean6466
@samthecaribbean6466 Ай бұрын
At least people could buy the game and link PSN from any region. Now people refunded the game and can't buy it again, because Sony delisted it
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if Sony ever resold HD2 on those countries again. Is the game still unavailable?
@ASackOfPotatoes
@ASackOfPotatoes Ай бұрын
Fuck Sony and fuck MS. It's your job as a consumer to hold these orgs accountable. Tired of people only blaming the business. It's shitty braindead spending by shitty braindead people.
@Bazgracz
@Bazgracz Ай бұрын
@@leithaziz2716 Yes, it is still unlisted in these places.
@vincenttorrijos9680
@vincenttorrijos9680 Ай бұрын
Been such a messed up week that Xbox's stuff had to be pushed to another episode? What a wild 5 days
@njsteere
@njsteere Ай бұрын
I think he wants to gather his thoughts, SkillUp doesn’t really do the “ranty” knee jerk reaction videos
@vincenttorrijos9680
@vincenttorrijos9680 Ай бұрын
@@njsteere yeah and that's fair, I'm just saying that the Sony stuff was heavy enough for 1 weeks episode
@njsteere
@njsteere Ай бұрын
@@vincenttorrijos9680 strange time for gaming. I look forward to TWIVG every week but honestly it’s been a bummer lately lol.
@thelaughingrouge
@thelaughingrouge Ай бұрын
What Sony really meant: "We're sorry that we massively overreached. Steam was gonna issue a bunch of refunds and we were gonna be threatened with lawsuits in the EU for anti consumer business practices. We will be less obvious with our greed in the future."
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Ай бұрын
Aren't Sony currently being sued for monopolistic business practices regarding their PS store?
@Thrillkilled
@Thrillkilled Ай бұрын
obviously
@rohanmahesh8383
@rohanmahesh8383 29 күн бұрын
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@Void6-
@Void6- 28 күн бұрын
But let me fire the person who tried to help the community save the game. We are learning how to dea- I mean LISTEN to the PC gamers but that guy's gotta go 😂
@Yesnomu
@Yesnomu Ай бұрын
Goddamn those studio closures made me sad, I loved Prey so much. Mismanagement is so rife right now... Thanks for the episode!
@twooty2148
@twooty2148 Ай бұрын
It's funny how Genshin Impact's fanbase got in just as much outrage as Helldivers a few months ago and the company literally just sat there and watched
@acudaican
@acudaican Ай бұрын
It's the numbers. They only get genuinely scared when it's Chinese outcry.
@jakeryan2805
@jakeryan2805 Ай бұрын
Ive been out of the loop for Genshin for months. What happened there?
@maxttk97
@maxttk97 Ай бұрын
They only listen to their Chinese player base.
@themagictoaster2472
@themagictoaster2472 Ай бұрын
Helldivers is literally Sony trying to kill one of the greatest indie games made in recent memory. Genshin drama is just drama.
@zeikers
@zeikers Ай бұрын
@@themagictoaster2472Helldivers 2 was published by Sony. That’s not an indie title bud.
@iamalaser4185
@iamalaser4185 Ай бұрын
Xdefiant looks like the most unremarkable game I've ever seen and you couldn't come up with a better title for a game that will be immediately forgotten
@alexs_toy_barn
@alexs_toy_barn Ай бұрын
There's actually a lot of angry COD fans out there who like xdefiant and can't stand current COD and want to play the old style of COD game
@Drifter422442
@Drifter422442 Ай бұрын
​@@alexs_toy_barnThis is how I see it too. The audience for older COD games is scattered, this game could bring them together. Lots of potential.
@mitt993
@mitt993 Ай бұрын
That's why it'll be free. They know nobody will pay money for that basic shit.
@Rob-gp6yb
@Rob-gp6yb Ай бұрын
​@@alexs_toy_barnmyself included
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Ай бұрын
When I was watching the footage I immediately thought 🤔 this is COD lol. Never underestimate the low standards people will accept to consume their entertainment. I could never.
@hunterchapman4699
@hunterchapman4699 Ай бұрын
Spitz realized he fucked up bad, so he fell on his sword to save the game lmaoooooo
@peterdozal8825
@peterdozal8825 Ай бұрын
I shit you not, the second you talked about Spits possibly losing his job over this I got a notification from twitter confirming that Spits has in fact lost his job. Fucking wild coincidence.
@MisterK-YT
@MisterK-YT Ай бұрын
He should’ve swallowed
@bootleg_24
@bootleg_24 Ай бұрын
i love how sony were the dickheads of the week and then microsoft said “i can do you one better”
@SageWon-1aussie
@SageWon-1aussie 29 күн бұрын
Sony manages to slam its dick in the car door, Microshaft laughs and says "We've been practising that for years".
@KBrod
@KBrod Ай бұрын
Tunic is also included in this month's PS Plus line up! Truly excellent game
@Player-1313
@Player-1313 Ай бұрын
What I learned from this whole Helldivers 2 debacle, is that the official community managers and moderators are very unprofessional. Spitz and Baskinator were very aggressive and demeaning to the community. Misty basically just went completely silent, deleting her Twitter and everything, offering no communication. And Purple Squidgeon made sexual assault accusations against someone he didn't like. I personally would fire all of them. Two of them did their jobs very poorly, one of them didn't even do their job at all, and another one made SA allegations against someone they didn't like on the official server which is definitely not the place to be doing that kind of stuff. If they acted like this in any other profession, 100% they would be fired. The only CM that actually did their job, and did it well was Twinbeard.
@coopstain1728
@coopstain1728 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU! So glad someone said something EXACTLY how it is.. They are all immature children and should be fired.
@Calebe428
@Calebe428 Ай бұрын
What did you think Misty was going to do? She gave someone and answer to their question and she had legions of you dweebs telling her to kill herself.
@selectionn
@selectionn Ай бұрын
90% of community managers are like this. all community managers are, are just people who sit at home all day and are unemployed, its the twitter "people" if you know what I mean. the kind of people who sit in a discord voice chat with random people. **Those** kind of 'people'...
@nobletenshi7659
@nobletenshi7659 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I dont know why Baskinator is still a CM. Its asif shes protected by DEI. She openly mocked Helldivers for RPing superearth. And was found doing bans on her own feelings. She should be the first to go. She dragged Arrowsheads Image through the mud. And then she has pronounces and flgas in her bio which is a huge red flag.. yet shes still there.
@redleader4512
@redleader4512 24 күн бұрын
@@nobletenshi7659oh flags and pronouns, the horror, the west has truly fallen🙄
@leonardchurch814
@leonardchurch814 Ай бұрын
This week really emblemizes the issues with the industry, no matter what you do, or how good a game you make, someone above you will always take the shittiest most short-sighted decision to ruin it all for you.
@jackhealy3328
@jackhealy3328 Ай бұрын
Helldivers 2 players literally killed over 2 billion bugs in 14 hours to complete a major order. Sony had no chance.
@BenjaminBoslet-rm6jr
@BenjaminBoslet-rm6jr Ай бұрын
We dive together or we don't dive at all✊️
@SomeRamdomName
@SomeRamdomName Ай бұрын
In the latest patch Arrow Head revealed that number was calculated wrong. It was counting kills of the whole squad and adding it to the total per player. If a 4 player squad killed 200 bugs, that match counted for 800 bugs.
@S_raB
@S_raB Ай бұрын
​@@Secret_Takodachi Super Citizens... UNITE!
@horrorfan117
@horrorfan117 Ай бұрын
We slayed 2 billion bugs in less than a day. We broke Sony's will in two. Imaging what we could do with a goal and a week.
@freelancerthe2561
@freelancerthe2561 Ай бұрын
@@horrorfan117 Lose Malevelon Creek again?
@Jago-pl7op
@Jago-pl7op Ай бұрын
As a Filipino myself, the addresses or regions you have to make for PSN accounts are usually Hong Kong or Singapore addresses.
@martinargota
@martinargota Ай бұрын
I didn't get this. So, entire countries can´t actually have PSN accounts? What's the reason?
@Jago-pl7op
@Jago-pl7op Ай бұрын
@@martinargota They would have to get PSN accounts from other regions. Because Playstation doesn't provide any services and addresses when making an account for countries like the Philippines.
@dikkeroege
@dikkeroege Ай бұрын
@@Jago-pl7op Why though? I imagine Philippines has a bunch of potential Sony customers.
@Lemonidas_of_Sourta
@Lemonidas_of_Sourta Ай бұрын
​@@martinargota Two things. 1) Some countries have a very restrictive view on western companies demanding data from their citizens. Especially as the console itself is a blackbox and many countries' top officials are nervous about having one in their living room. So they ask very restrictive measures to have PSN instituted in the country. Heck some of legit countries had you entering your biometrics like face and finger print to make a PSN account. 2) Because third world country currency exchange rate is not good at all and the number of people who can even afford a PS5 is very less in those countries.
@Jago-pl7op
@Jago-pl7op Ай бұрын
@dikkeroege I don't really know about that. It could be those times when Sony tried to make an HQ in the Philippines, but the workers kept going on strike and they shutdown the one in the Philippines.
@laranjo5999
@laranjo5999 Ай бұрын
Companies hiring Community Managers: "Are you an idiot with bad social skills and completely removed from reality?" "Yes, I am very incompetent." "Hired." I swear, these devs/publishers only seem to miss with their moderators.
@KABLAMMATS
@KABLAMMATS Ай бұрын
DEI hire moment
@gungan5822
@gungan5822 Ай бұрын
If I see one more cm with inclusivity in their bio, it'll be too soon. If the last 10 years have taught me anything it's that gatekeeping in hobbies and franchises is more important than ever.
@Nickulator
@Nickulator Ай бұрын
They have been known to hire Reddit moderators that would mod for their game's respective subreddit. Should tell you anything you need to know.
@thebigcapitalism9826
@thebigcapitalism9826 Ай бұрын
​@@KABLAMMATS They don't just hire people because of who they are. They still look at qualifications.
@esaedvik
@esaedvik Ай бұрын
@@gungan5822 So you haven't learned anything. Nice one.
@Thiagoslaw
@Thiagoslaw Ай бұрын
I did not play Alan Wake 2 for two reasons: No physical release on consoles and no steam release. They made their mind and so did I.
@samuelquintanilla6338
@samuelquintanilla6338 Ай бұрын
Facts
@ladylad2763
@ladylad2763 Ай бұрын
Wish I had access to it but they didn't give me the option to pick it up
@idontbuyit101
@idontbuyit101 Ай бұрын
Same.. no physical no buy..
@ShimodaNexus
@ShimodaNexus Ай бұрын
Seriously. I wouldn't have even gotten it at 70, but if it was physical, I would have at least gotten it on $10 off sale, or a gift card.
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Ай бұрын
Fair
@stefanchiric3691
@stefanchiric3691 Ай бұрын
Sells studio to Activision. Activision cancels project they really liked. Gets upset project got cancelled and leaves studio to make another studio. Solid logic
@dtanobo
@dtanobo Ай бұрын
Spitz is no longer a mod on the discord apparently so that is an accurate report on that one
@OKMBVideos
@OKMBVideos Ай бұрын
Good, honestly. He didn't suggest putting those refunds and negative reviews in because it was for the benefit of the game, he did it so people would leave the Discord alone. He already nuked the HD1 Discord when it wasn't going the way he wanted it to.
@makasete30
@makasete30 Ай бұрын
There’s another one who should be fired for slander, too, I heard.
@givemorexp
@givemorexp Ай бұрын
Baskinator, a community manager, is the worst. She literally said she is happy with players abandoning the game as then she has an easier job when it comes to banning people. Bro, AH are based, but their mods and community managers are fucking tools.
@MisterK-YT
@MisterK-YT Ай бұрын
Did he spitz or swallow?
@selectionn
@selectionn Ай бұрын
good, but the entire community interaction staff need to be fired. ban all the unpaid janitors (discord mods) and fire the community manager.
@TheWindwall
@TheWindwall Ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to report on these Studio closures completely. I look forward to that next video.
@PhoenixNoKiseki
@PhoenixNoKiseki 29 күн бұрын
I want Summer Games Fest to be renamed Geoff Keighley’s Trailer Palooza.
@yomanyo327
@yomanyo327 Ай бұрын
177 regions still don't have the game back, not over with the bullshit yet
@willymobile
@willymobile Ай бұрын
Yeah but to be fair that's probably because of steam paperwork. I'd imagine sony is trying to appeal that.
@luciusliu9417
@luciusliu9417 Ай бұрын
I'm hoping gamers' short term memories don't let them forget that, but many already have.
@yomanyo327
@yomanyo327 Ай бұрын
@@willymobile God, I hope you're right, I just managed to convince some friends to buy it when this whole thing kicked off, talk about bad timing.
@sirjazz5776
@sirjazz5776 Ай бұрын
@@luciusliu9417 We won't. And neither will the devs, 'cause : fun fact, they're planning on making the events of the last weekend part of the game's History, by giving us a custom cape reflecting the Review Bombing... even if some people forget or there is newcomers unaware of what happened during those 72 hours, we will have a permanent reminder of what one community can do if they stand their ground. We dive together, or not at all.
@LPCelllule
@LPCelllule Ай бұрын
@@willymobile I think it's not. From what PirateSoftware said (developer of Hearthbound), you can change which countries have access to your game in one click, whenever you want.
@wuurlii
@wuurlii Ай бұрын
Ralph, you make my slow shifts so much more enriching when I need it most, and I really appreciate it. thanks a bunch for everything you do.
@coopstain1728
@coopstain1728 Ай бұрын
Maybe get a better job.
@JRay80
@JRay80 Ай бұрын
Bro. I have never been so proud to be a part of a community of gamers. Helldivers 2 has quickly become one of my all-timers. I'm now level 75, topped up on all my samps and medals, everything unlocked, and I still can't stop playing. This community is incredible. I love you all. SWEET LIBERTY MY COMMUNITY!!!!
@zeroDOLLARg-Ro
@zeroDOLLARg-Ro Ай бұрын
I really appreciate these weekly updates. It keeps me in the loop. Always look forward to listening to these at work.
@Nanoqtran
@Nanoqtran Ай бұрын
You know what i love most about the helldivers 2 shitshow? It heavily reinforced Swen talking about how bad conditions were when thry were under a publisher. Line that up with the success of indie devs the last few years and im hoping we can pull power from pubishers and give them back to the developers.
@aSinkingShip
@aSinkingShip Ай бұрын
Let's not kid ourselves. Sony backed down once refunds started flooding in. Those reviews are as useful as thoughts and prayers. Money speaks loudest.
@mad_elf
@mad_elf Ай бұрын
If I go to steam and see a game that has mostly positive reviews. I'm more likely to take a look. If I see a game that has negative or lower, I leave the store page and I don't give it a second glance. Steam reviews definitely play a role in purchases.
@jfells4838
@jfells4838 Ай бұрын
Idk much about the Xbox or PlayStation reviews but in terms of steam they play a pretty big role imho. If I see a game on steam that has negative reviews or even “mixed” reviews then I’m straight up not going to consider buying it, on the flip side, if I see a game with positive reviews then I’m more willing to give it a chance. Might just be a steam thing idk
@BobisOnlyBob
@BobisOnlyBob Ай бұрын
the review bombs created a feedback loop with the refunds - the numbers of refunds wouldn't have happened without a coordinated community push, and the steam reviews helped make that collective action clear. No, the reviews didn't directly influence Sony, but the flurry of both the reviews and the refunds brought Valve's attention to it, and that led to a wider scope of refunds, which Sony in turn noticed. Not all collective action is direct, a lot of it is just building hype and cohesion, but you don't get the numbers and the result you want without appealling to people's social desires as well as their financial drives.
@Ziggyvu
@Ziggyvu Ай бұрын
Not entirely true. Sony still probably uses reviews as a metric but it definitely is not as valuable as mass refunds tho lmao
@Miriam_J_
@Miriam_J_ Ай бұрын
​@@mad_elf Really though? People review bomb more often than not over trivial things. It's not trustworthy at all, imo.
@Xmgb331X
@Xmgb331X Ай бұрын
Really happy to see ol Shillup give Dread Delusion a highlight in the video. I’ve gone through almost all of lovely hellplace’s (the dev) previous work leading up to the current version of DD and I loved seeing the evolution over time. It’s become one of my favourite games and I know it will earn the success that it deserves.
@spectre-8
@spectre-8 29 күн бұрын
@31:15 I didn’t think you’d be one of those people to say ‘could care less’ when you meant ‘couldn’t care less’ 🙉
@freerunner2011
@freerunner2011 Ай бұрын
"30 countries only able to sign up for PSN"? I believe it was more like 69 actual countries who can sign up for PSN, but the ~120 countries that can't got blown out of proportion due to non-existing countries, states etc. Still, 177 vs 120 - it doesn't matter. People who buy the game should be able to play. edit after fact checking:
@Xyler94
@Xyler94 Ай бұрын
Some countries in that 69 can only make accounts if they have a PlayStation Console. Effectively making a PSN account an up to 500$ account. A Ukrainian for example showcased that they couldn't make an account, and PlayStation support told them it's because they need to make it on a PlayStation.
@faithlessarv
@faithlessarv Ай бұрын
The 5 people living in Antarctica and the Pope are sad.
@chrisadamec900
@chrisadamec900 Ай бұрын
The community manager was an Arrowhead employee, not a Sony employee.
@Lividicuss
@Lividicuss Ай бұрын
V Rising also goes into 1.0 release this Thursday and the game is incredible. So many things have been added since the start of Open Access. Such a great surivial/vampire game. Highly recommend
@NionAeon
@NionAeon Ай бұрын
Wasn’t Spitz the same person Arrowhead had to apologise for before? For mocking players who were upset about nerfing.
@DrEcho
@DrEcho Ай бұрын
You guys talking about Animal Well?
@MrCoolinschool
@MrCoolinschool Ай бұрын
It’s really hard to be excited about gaming these days because of the seemingly omnipresent specter of death looming over every developer, especially those under a big company
@Keithustus
@Keithustus Ай бұрын
The tweet of the week is from game developer Maisie O. Dorchaidhe. She wrote: “things that will no longer keep you safe in this industry: - a good game - a profitable game - a viral game - a big publisher - a small publisher - a big team - a small team - a rich parent company - an "ethical" parent company - experience - long hours & sacrifice” May 7 @modorchaidhe
@Sexnuf4u
@Sexnuf4u 29 күн бұрын
You can apply that to everything. Capitalistic hell hole.
@liva9994
@liva9994 28 күн бұрын
Okay, porbably the most important fact in regards to the Helldivers 2, the reason Sony backtracked was most likely legal reasons, as on their public website, it stated "Signing in to PSN is optional when playing a Playstation game on PC", which they changed (the same day the update hit) to "Some Playstation games may require you sign in and link to an account for PSN." And that's false marketing, which they would most likely not win, as that's their official website. So that was most likely the reason they backtracked. Not saying the other part might not also have had an influence, but it rarely does for these huge companies.
@JakubDi
@JakubDi Ай бұрын
Oh, my tweet is featured towards the end (33:06). Thank you.
@Stevewebstermusic
@Stevewebstermusic Ай бұрын
Tango closing gutted me. Both evil within and hi fi rush had amazing potential to continue. Rip
@ericneo2
@ericneo2 Ай бұрын
Redfall still hasn't released the DLC people paid for...
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Ай бұрын
Imagine paying for a product that doesn't exist
@esaedvik
@esaedvik Ай бұрын
@@philbarton2832 I wonder how many millions of people bought into Fallout 76...or any Bethesda game.
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 29 күн бұрын
@@esaedvik a lot because people are idiots unfortunately 🤷 There are countless examples of people Preordering games then being burnt once the product comes out broken, unfinished or trash but they never learn because they're sheep
@Paladinbaroque
@Paladinbaroque Ай бұрын
Cheers for another one bub, best of luck in the upcoming travel Much love to you, Stew, Austin and Edmond Take care folks x
@stevenesbitt3528
@stevenesbitt3528 Ай бұрын
Woke up today actually excited about this video dropping, need to get out more 😂
@Apocalyptico100
@Apocalyptico100 Ай бұрын
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2 was great, really sad they won't make 3+4.
@NateRunner2049
@NateRunner2049 Ай бұрын
Just wanted to shout out that intro to dread delusion. Letting thst score swell in was a goosebumps moment. Great job by the editing team
@whattodo3116
@whattodo3116 Ай бұрын
Hi Skill Up, will you cover the news about Steam being blocked in Vietnam next week? Would love for people to know about bs happening.
@John-nf9wo
@John-nf9wo Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention Tunic and Animal Well are free games for PS this month.
@umphreak9999
@umphreak9999 Ай бұрын
Tunic, yes. Animal Well, no.
@John-nf9wo
@John-nf9wo Ай бұрын
@umphreak9999 it's coming to PS Extra day one. Still worth mentioning.
@Adloquiem
@Adloquiem Ай бұрын
For anyone who still plays D4, do you still need to kill all enemies to fight the boss in a dungeon or do fetch quests or did they remove all of that? It was so annoying
@neil5861
@neil5861 Ай бұрын
Yes! I was wondering when you'd mention our Lord and Saviour 3ddy! As a Tekken fan, this cracked me up more than you know and thanks for another episode of the best KZfaq series out there.✌️
@LuisPerez-129
@LuisPerez-129 Ай бұрын
Spitz as a CM won the award of jumping the gun without understanding the whole situation, taking sides without literally having discussed with the team what is happening, without information he then proceeded to blame the player base, then he sided with the player base to then blame the publisher (he was right on this though) and then he got fired, probably the most interesting CM story in gaming.
@hotch4421
@hotch4421 Ай бұрын
“Most interesting CM story in gaming” you need to familiarize yourself with more CMs every single one I’ve encountered is absolutely insufferable
@LuisPerez-129
@LuisPerez-129 Ай бұрын
@@hotch4421 maybe I should but I am good lol, I would rather not after this awful helldivers one.
@Kurogane3
@Kurogane3 Ай бұрын
I really wanted this week's episode to be called "Sony and Microsoft's race to be the worst company."
@lucasmenchone2826
@lucasmenchone2826 Ай бұрын
Points to make about the Helldivers situation: - Spitz's comments were childish and people should stop behaving unprofessionally when representing companies. - Sucker Punch's statement makes me wonder if Sony's future plans involve blocking online functionalities behind a ps plus subscription on PC as well. - AAA studios, as DJ Khaled says: are "suffering from success", because as greater the scope and popularity of the studio properties become, the greater the chances for the publisher's executives to destroy them with greed.
@charliem5604
@charliem5604 Ай бұрын
I genuinely don't understand why people are making Spitz out to be some hero. Most of the CM's at Arrowhead are showing how mentally unstable they are and one of them is literally making up false rape accusations against one user
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 Ай бұрын
WTF does PS+ have to do with anything? You had to sign up for a FREE PSN account, not a PS+ subscription. The same thing Microsoft, EA, 2K, Ubisoft, WBGames, etc. require. It was also said out loud before the game launched, at launch it was literally in the ELUA screen, they literally said that they were giving people until May 30th....I cannot stand people who cry about everything and are so pathetic they feel the need to make things up, a PS+ subscription was never going to be a requirement on PC.
@Xyler94
@Xyler94 Ай бұрын
If they try PS+ on PC... they'll be in for an awakening. Microsoft tried that with Games for Windows Live... that failed so hard that Microsoft isn't doing that anymore.
@iekue
@iekue Ай бұрын
​@@lutherheggs451the whole "sony is gonna require ps+ subs for online on pc" bullshit speculating ppl are doin is so sad lol, thats just fearmongering (and ppl eat it up and instantly act like its true).
@teeman7137
@teeman7137 Ай бұрын
The ps+ need to come with MEGA value because we already have discord and free better platform and gamepass exist
@fezmonkey4389
@fezmonkey4389 Ай бұрын
31:08 - It wasn't mentioned in the video for some reason, but Tunic is also part of the PS Plus free games this month. Very good Zelda-like with a cute fox as the protagonist, definitely recommend.
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Ай бұрын
Tunic is also "free" for PS plus extra subscriber's, not sure how Ralph missed that one but here we are. Enjoy 😀
@TheGallicWitch
@TheGallicWitch Ай бұрын
As someone who's favourite game of all time is Dishonored, I'm kind of shattered by the news. I'm just numb. I was so hopeful for more. I can only cross my fingers that Arkane Lyon, the original Arkane, will take up the mantle but I'm not confident; this is soul crushing, genuinely.
@Road_to_Dawn
@Road_to_Dawn Ай бұрын
I feel that. I’m a huge fan of Evil Within, and I feel like I lost Dead Space all over again like when Visceral closed down. Then again, we also got news that Dead Space 2 won’t be getting a remake. Ugh. I’m so frustrated.
@omerpockard7212
@omerpockard7212 29 күн бұрын
Arkane Lyon made both Dishonored games I think.
@DANNYonPC
@DANNYonPC Ай бұрын
Good thing there was no news at all that Ralph could miss out on yesterday
@alexstewart7414
@alexstewart7414 28 күн бұрын
Microsoft is the equivalent of Kendrick Lamar if he wrote diss tracks about himself.
@thedude7250
@thedude7250 Ай бұрын
As someone who lives in a country where psn isnt active in im glad this whole thing happened so hopefully they can work on getting it too more places
@timwhitman3207
@timwhitman3207 Ай бұрын
I completely understand why you changed it, but i wish i could have gotten to hear/read the original opening for this show. It sounds like it would have been funny, and I'm sad we missed out on it.
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 Ай бұрын
7:02 I read a review on Steam of someone saying "My friend can no longer purchase this game in his country, so I bought myself to leave this review and get a refund", so yeah screw Sony
@DFGdanger
@DFGdanger Ай бұрын
Seems counterproductive to give them money if that's what you wanna do
@Calebe428
@Calebe428 Ай бұрын
is it really surprising that they delisted it from those countries considering one of the main points of criticism was that it was available to those countries to begin with?
@omarcarrero3623
@omarcarrero3623 27 күн бұрын
​@@Calebe428 thats the unintended consequence of of making an issue over it. Technically it shouldn't have been available in those countries, however circumventing it was as easy as selecting an available country when creating an account to link to the game.(note this is how it works with nearly every other publisher) But now going forward you cant they are gonna go by the books and just not sell it where in places where PSN doesn't operate in
@Rinienna
@Rinienna 23 күн бұрын
There were so many huge indie games that landed on the 9th, I wish there was more attention given for how many neat entries there were. My shoutout would definitely be Rabbit & Steel, an insanely well made Roguelike meets Shmup meets FFXIV raid mechanics??? It is genuinely quickly one of my favorite roguelike games ever, it is insane how well it works for being a solo dev project. Besides that there's also 1000xRESIST, Cryptmaster, CorpoNation, Asleep and Brocula. There were so many entries just for the 9th. We're in an insane space for indies currently.
@Sam54345
@Sam54345 28 күн бұрын
For next week, you should cover the deep dip 2 competition in Trackmania! Over a dozen mappers spent 18 months building the most difficult map ever made with a prize pool of over 27k, it's insane and it's been so fun to follow!
@Nyoteng
@Nyoteng Ай бұрын
The Sony thing has been dwarfed by the MS thing
@Chopzi11a
@Chopzi11a Ай бұрын
Nah fam, not really 😂
@NoName......
@NoName...... Ай бұрын
At least they walked it back. Ain't no walking Tango Studios back...
@hgyuuuuhj098
@hgyuuuuhj098 Ай бұрын
@@Chopzi11alog in, Phil Spencer.
@themissingpeace7956
@themissingpeace7956 Ай бұрын
Sony released their announcement on a friday thinking people would forget about it only to get a phone call from Japan like: "WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING?!"
@susan7527
@susan7527 28 күн бұрын
No PSN in Japan too
@spaceman_256
@spaceman_256 29 күн бұрын
Not sure why you wouldnt mention Tunic for this months PS plus, was super stoked to finally pick that up
@TheSypher9990
@TheSypher9990 Ай бұрын
RIP to KSP2 as well. Intercept Games also lost 70 staff this week.
@Petrical
@Petrical Ай бұрын
Ive wanted an Evil Within 3 for so long, its sad that this is how it ends. Thank you to all of the shuttered studios for all of the great experiences.
@makasete30
@makasete30 Ай бұрын
Didn’t get on with the second one but loved the horror survival in the first. I would have loved a return to the more linear aspect of the first.
@Petrical
@Petrical Ай бұрын
@makasete30 I definitely can understand that. I loved RE4 style action survival horror shift personally. Regardless they were great games and it was a studio with a lot of potential still. Sad to see such a waste occur.
@SirQuantization
@SirQuantization Ай бұрын
The best part of my week every week. Thanks, as usual Mr. Up!
@ossifyn3221
@ossifyn3221 28 күн бұрын
Btw Sony still has helldivers unavailable to a lot of countries and no ones really paying attention to it
@Compound1080
@Compound1080 Ай бұрын
im so happy you shouted out dread delusion. been looking forward for it for a while
@Cyanid3Child
@Cyanid3Child Ай бұрын
Remember a few years ago when journalists campaigned to get rid of public facing reviews and tried to frame review bombing as harassment and hate?
@LogicalError007
@LogicalError007 Ай бұрын
It's sad to hear about Tango. Others I understand, 2 mobile game companies and other Redfall creator. Core Prey team was already gone. So it was a shell left. Hi-Fi Rush and Ghostwire Tokyo were liked by many but didn't meet sales/players quota. 3 good back to back games not played by people much. I don't know why western based companies want to move their studios away from Japan. First Sony moved yheir PlayStation HQ to USA and vlosed all Japanese studios and now Microsoft closed their only jaosnese studio in history that they just got. They made such good games. Not a single bad game in their portfolio. This makes me concerned for Ninja Theory and Obsidian. Hope Tango was closed because of talent leaving with Shinji Mikami to his new studio.
@chicagoparker
@chicagoparker Ай бұрын
Respectfully, I don't think the PSN thing was about data. I think it was about showing investors the 100k PC players as "active PSN" users to investors during quarterly earnings calls.
@mintcake2668
@mintcake2668 Ай бұрын
I can't believe SkillUp themed PC is a real thing LMAO.
@BlackTone91
@BlackTone91 Ай бұрын
What do you mean only 30 countries can legally make a PSN account when the actual number is around 70?
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 Ай бұрын
Some countries require you to buy a PlayStation console in order to sign up for a PSN. Ukraine for example.
@BlackTone91
@BlackTone91 Ай бұрын
@@Ceece20 This is not true, on reddit many people from Ukraine were able to create a PSN account on their phone
@TriFekt
@TriFekt Ай бұрын
Well considering the official statement from Sony is that you need the console, I'm more inclined to believe Sony over some random person on KZfaq. No offense.
@bdbgh
@bdbgh Ай бұрын
I'm doing my part 👍
@walalon8719
@walalon8719 Ай бұрын
For democracy soldier!!
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 Ай бұрын
I’m doing my part. 🫡
@SuperStarWarsFan1138
@SuperStarWarsFan1138 Ай бұрын
Bethesda should hire some Helldivers to take care of all the bugs.
@AndersHass
@AndersHass Ай бұрын
AC Mirage will also be on iPhone 15 Pro (and Max), so any device using A17 Pro (presumably A18 and later will also be available). I guess it will be available on Apple Silicon Macs because of the iOS store integration, otherwise I am not sure if it will be on Macs.
@Scarecr0wn
@Scarecr0wn Ай бұрын
Arrowhead should do some deep review of their community management. As a whole. Spitz absolutely is not the only one not doing what good CM should do over there. Glad the whole situation got resolved tho. Rare occasion of gamers pushing together and winning.
@charliem5604
@charliem5604 Ай бұрын
One of the other CM is literally making up false rape accusations against one user
@Scarecr0wn
@Scarecr0wn Ай бұрын
@@charliem5604 Yep. And there are some stuff going on around the main mod as well, quite anti-gamer behavior.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Ай бұрын
Sounds like the industry needs a review of their CM as a whole. its too common of a occurrence.
@Calebe428
@Calebe428 Ай бұрын
spitz is fired now
@omarcarrero3623
@omarcarrero3623 27 күн бұрын
I don't think gamers really 'won' , i thenk we shot ourselves in the foot with this one
@TheNoobyNoob1
@TheNoobyNoob1 Ай бұрын
Idk if anyone remembers Hastings. It was a pretty big Southwest pop culture/movie/game/book store. There’s probably equivalents. I worked there for 2 years back in 2015.. and lemme tell you I remember the wave of Funko when it hit. People would spend HOURS in looking through our probably 400-600 stocked pops on those shelves to find one freaking green Darth Vader. A year after they arrived, we were easily in the thousands in that store. It was a straight up invasion. The chaos it brought can’t even be described. When someone would ask if we had one, the policy was literally to search it, say yes, and then say “good luck”. That being said, my head canon is I’m part of the reason for this game existing even if all I did was help sell a green Darth Vader to 45 year old man at 2PM on a Wednesday. I’m buying this damn game, and I don’t even know why. It’s like a piece of my past I need to go back to and fight😭.
@MarluxiaKH0014
@MarluxiaKH0014 29 күн бұрын
Idk why he didn’t mention it but Bungie is letting anyone play Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, Witch Queen, and Lightfall plus the 4 seasons from this year until Final Shape releases
@hbeau1900
@hbeau1900 Ай бұрын
Arkane's closure sucks, but Microsoft didn't kill them, previous management's push for Redfall did. You can't just "Ship of Theseus" through 70% attrition, it will rot a studio to the bone
@chadstudd1616
@chadstudd1616 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure they never wanted to make redfail.... MS made them make it
@hbeau1900
@hbeau1900 Ай бұрын
Production started and was announced before the Microsoft acquisition of Bethesda. MS is a true blue American capitalist with all the classic sins of leading cartels, bribing politicians, and strangling innovation in the crib, but Redfall, for once, ain't one of them
@hbeau1900
@hbeau1900 29 күн бұрын
@@chadstudd1616 Production on Redfall started way before the MS acquisition, hence the cancellation of the planned PS5 port
@prw56
@prw56 Ай бұрын
Even Spitz's rollback pissed me off, I already don't buy games that require a 3rd party account b/c its a terrible practice and I don't want to support it. I am one of those people that get mad any time I am asked for personal info without a good reason, the idiotic "well it only takes a couple minutes" is the same hand waving shit that's gotten all kinds of consumer hostile stuff to become standard. It reminds me of the "its just cosmetic" excuse for microtransactions.
@Keithustus
@Keithustus Ай бұрын
He apologized and learned and wanted to rectify things. That’s who we want in those positions! Not more PR BS say-nothings.
@prw56
@prw56 Ай бұрын
@@Keithustus It looked like he only rolled back b/c this time there was an easy to understand, immediately present consequence from rolling this out. Absent that, I get the impression he would wave off all the concerns just like any other PR person, b/c usually the concerns around third party accounts are about what can go wrong, not what has gone wrong. And in his mind that doesn't matter (hence the "it only takes 2 minutes" bs). And the way he waved it off, only for the shit to hit the fan, kind of mirrors the pattern that companies doing anti-consumer stuff usually follows (they ignore concerns, stuff goes wrong, they rollback), so that similarity might be why his followup rubs me so wrong.
@mattleonard8412
@mattleonard8412 Ай бұрын
Skillup forgot that Gears Pop was a thing when he was talking about Funko Fusion. And we got gators in Florida, not crocs!
@darkrinji
@darkrinji Ай бұрын
8:20 This is basically their 'dont you guys have phones?' moment.
@docicusalignjon
@docicusalignjon Ай бұрын
Uncle Phil screwed up ShillUp yet again lmao
@Brogert.
@Brogert. Ай бұрын
Much love but I don't know about the 'best headsets on the market" when there are so many audio companies to compete against. Content is on point as always, cheers.
@gracelandtoo6240
@gracelandtoo6240 Ай бұрын
Same thing with keyboards (as a custom mech kbd snob, I think I can speak to that). The mouse I have from them is really nice though, aside from the software lmao.
@Brogert.
@Brogert. Ай бұрын
@@gracelandtoo6240 Yeah, the two Steelseries mice i owned were absolutely solid. Software hasn't changed then, huh? :D
@llamatronian101
@llamatronian101 Ай бұрын
Yeah their mice are good, and the software is… optional at least.
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