Skip Townsend: We'd Go In The House If Tookie Was Near/ Monster Kody Always Sent People To Fight Me

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@sagcap7927 2 жыл бұрын

This interview was the most honest shit I’ve ever heard from a former gang member talking about how can a grown man follow anything started by a 13-year-old. Enough said on that part

@dgib9449 2 жыл бұрын

Never heard it in that form and it make the most sense

@brianhebert3311 2 жыл бұрын

Real talk Skip.

@kingloaf 2 жыл бұрын

Watch Charleston white. He speaks the truth

@FBA_Smoke 2 жыл бұрын

@@kingloaf truth with division. He's whole "movement" is counter productive. He's a clown.

@greddmyles3677 2 жыл бұрын

I mean it don't matter the age of the man when he started it most of the original organizations we're started by 13 year olds. They're not 13 now so what's the point. Ion know bout the gangs but I know about the Nation I'm in Chief was 13 and was whooping the older boys that was trying to push over on him.thd foundation of this nation was laid out by a 13 year old but it was for good.

@BenBen-kh1dm 2 жыл бұрын

Big skip seems like tha guy back in tha day that had all the new bikes an toys,video games an u could go ova to his house and play all day ..until momma came home😀

@trugame9749 2 жыл бұрын

Yes lmao 🤣

@SB1Films 2 жыл бұрын

😭

@shugbrown8385 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t let da smooth taste fool ya skip was a mf bacc in da day frfr🙄

@nardoEBK148 5 ай бұрын

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@realizeandwitness9505 2 ай бұрын

Always that one dude in the hood 😂😂😂

@logic6854 2 жыл бұрын

Humble, poised, honest, stand up and always showing humility!!! The living definition of a real one!!!!

@QUNYC7 2 жыл бұрын

Facts! Skip is a real reputable OG.

@hustlengrind8833 2 жыл бұрын

My momma from south central, 41st and Hoover. Even though we were in Alaska she had ALL that LA in her. She was a square too but she didn’t play when it came to us defending ourselves.

@kaykaywarlord6733 2 жыл бұрын

Shit I heard it's Black's in Alaska now, ? Right on fam, Much love from South Central L.A 59th & Western*

@hustlengrind8833 2 жыл бұрын

@@kaykaywarlord6733 you’d be shocked at how many of us are up there. Much love!

@user-dl8yo9dx6x 2 жыл бұрын

Man all the OG from 41st had a certain. 🔥 bout there self

@BrooklynsFinest34 2 жыл бұрын

@@hustlengrind8833 How is it out there? Please tell me more about it, I very curious about the life style? Is it safe for people of color? Please expand on it. BTW my step dad is from South Central but I grew up in Brooklyn NY. I miss my family in LA. Some of the best & most loyal people I know.

@hustlengrind8833 2 жыл бұрын

@@BrooklynsFinest34 it’s actually a lovely place. It does get cold and I mean some cold you ain’t never felt before. If you can last a winter you can live there forever. It’s pretty much nothing to see a moose or bear just out and about wondering around. People are very nice for the most part, I guess because there’s really nowhere else to go. It’s expensive but you’ll get paid pretty good, plus the yearly dividend check for living there.

@5sixxduce 2 жыл бұрын

Skipp is the man... I appreciate your help with 2nd Call classes. May God continue to bless you and the program.

@muskegontribune 2 жыл бұрын

Under a different environment, this man would have been a Professional in the Corporate World or an Educator. He was truly a victim of his environment. These gangs are aiding and abetting the demise of their own people, destroying potential.

@danielgawelczyk4695 2 жыл бұрын

FINALLY!!! Finally a Real Man talking real talk.

@KatoLaflare 2 жыл бұрын

This dude official. He been in damn near every blood documentary there was.

@socool9815 2 жыл бұрын

We couldn't tell my father somebody had a fight without him telling us we all should have fought

@ContextReallyMatters 2 жыл бұрын

Not us. We were there for back up in case someone tried to jump in but if it's one on one then you have to handle your own business.

@ddm3116 2 жыл бұрын

So his mother made him violent AND kept him from his father?! Can’t believed they just skipped over that🤦🏿‍♂️

@JoshTall-lv6cy 3 ай бұрын

Your absolutely right ,she went overboard and influenced him to be violent, she was wrong and it caused him trouble and it could have got him kikled

@Urmak85 Ай бұрын

Growing up in LA in those times, unfortunately u had to grow up tuff n be violent if need be...with the gangs all around that's how it was smh...it is what it is...can't blame momma for tryna make her kid tuff

@ddm3116 Ай бұрын

@@Urmak85 rewatch video he literally said mom “kept him from his father AND made him violent”. I’m 42yo raised and still live on the south side of Chicago I understand gangs and those times. Went through it myself. Having a father would have helped A LOT. Hence me pointing out his mom keeping him from dad. That’s not right is all I’m saying.

@user-sv9uv6ut6e 6 күн бұрын

Wtf is just called not being a victim dumb fucks 😂 no wonder America is how it is today

@timpflo 2 жыл бұрын

To have gone threw all that he has gone threw SKIPP has a real cool level mindset. Respect to SKIPP.

@mrfabulous17 2 жыл бұрын

Skip could’ve been anything.. the LA gang culture in the 70’s and 80’s based on extreme bullying etc got to him.

@bambidane 2 жыл бұрын

Monster Kody too. He mentioned bullying out. He was a victim too.

@PottsyUK 2 жыл бұрын

I like Skipp and his mindset. From an outsider looking in he seems to be doing good work to stop the violence etc. Much respect from the UK.

@yahuda8749 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative about how it was growing up in south central L.A. in the 80’s could listen to skip tell stories for hours

@tcblightningfast5687 2 жыл бұрын

“My dad was around… but he was Easter, Christmas, sometime during the Summer. Three or four times a year.”’ Cam : So you didn’t see him much? Lmfaoooo

@davidmaez7253 2 жыл бұрын

Skip has been in L.A. gang documentaries for over 30 years. He goes way back

@uptownszn376 2 жыл бұрын

He seems to have vivid accurate memories to learning from the mentally of these specific era’s and learning the pros & cons of joining gangs to growing from them

@brettrogers5333 2 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 interview..shout out cam,shout out to the brother skipp

@gregorydixon6017 2 жыл бұрын

Much love to the big homie Skipp‼

@blazink50 2 жыл бұрын

This man is a lot more intelligent than I thought he was

@greatgatzyy 2 жыл бұрын

Never judge a book by its cover.

@imto5 2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for a skipp interview 👏🏽👏🏽

@lowbo47omsascotave 2 жыл бұрын

*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !* _Tappin' in from South Central LA_ Shout out to the Big Homie Skipp and his Mother for being Low Bottom natives. 🤜🏾💥🤛🏾

@dallen9011 2 жыл бұрын

Successful black man working hard to be a doctor. Black woman didn't want him around SMH #PAYATTENTION

@daguywhoknowz2638 2 жыл бұрын

These moms can’t keep their sons away from their father. The worst thing they can do

@TheOneAboveAll_ 2 жыл бұрын

This goes into the narritive that Charleston White would say about the gangs were nothing but bullies

@jankycuz11um88 2 жыл бұрын

Not all but crips were and brims

@TheOneAboveAll_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@jankycuz11um88 then those who weren't where just followers....one guy who wasn't doesn't change the narrative of the whole.

@VansSkully 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting take on the origins of gang banging. The behavior was started by 13 year olds. Protect Skipp at all costs!

@user-lb9ee2ur1k 2 жыл бұрын

Yea crips were made by 15 year old Raymond Washington on the Eastside

@sellyboy727 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-lb9ee2ur1k so is that why it's so childish to gangbang? That's crazy I never knew a kid started it but makes sense the principles they stand on. Usually juvenile in true reality

@VansSkully 2 жыл бұрын

@@sellyboy727 yes exactly you have 40-50 year olds now acting like children. Look at wack100 arguing with those bloods on clubhouse. Perfect example of kids in an adult body

@sellyboy727 2 жыл бұрын

@@VansSkully sickkk

@moblack5883 2 жыл бұрын

@@sellyboy727 Bro do some history on it man. These were youths when the crips were started etc. A lot of them banged for a years then grew out of it. Went to the military, got jobs, got married etc.

@reginaldklewis 2 жыл бұрын

this a good conversation to soak up

@aaawindowcleaning9394 2 жыл бұрын

You talking about mom locking the door , brought back memories from my childhood. I was an only child and in the projects of Bmore. My grandma did the same thing to me. I haven't had a problem since then. Thanks grandma!

@quanbrooklynkid7776 2 жыл бұрын

Sellout

@brax0210 2 жыл бұрын

4:20 mark Not one person can argue this point most honest think ive ever heard on any of these videos

@dennisking1445 2 жыл бұрын

I love when this guy talks he is very analytical and intelligent very calm and articulate I laughed when he said they all would go inside when tookie came around tookie was like a big swole Freddy Krueger in the hood 🤣 Everybody was terrified of him

@romankerimov2852 Жыл бұрын

Rip tookie

@robertervin3881 2 жыл бұрын

Wisdom fr bro respect

@willdogg4200 2 жыл бұрын

Man when is the movie coming? 💪💯😎

@bowa1977 2 жыл бұрын

best interview i've heard as fas as material goes

@hectormorales6175 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, my boy Cam Capone need some interviewing skills. Lol Anyone else with a small temper would go off on his questions lol…

@Geez01 2 жыл бұрын

I would've learned to see a interview with Skip and Monster... Two very intelligent brothas from the same era.

@jonjones7137 2 жыл бұрын

Monster Cody? A simple sherm head?

@Geez01 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonjones7137 I don't judge people I didn't know personally.

@jonjones7137 2 жыл бұрын

@@Geez01 his book about the harm he did to the black community is enough to judge the nimrod

@Geez01 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonjones7137 trust me I feel that... I don't mean to sound like Im giving him credit but hate him or love him his name will live longer than he did and will be spoken by many!! Can you say that about your name?? I know I can't!!

@jonjones7137 2 жыл бұрын

@@Geez01 to my children and local community yes. And black people should not be celebrating this scourge on the community. He was a scum killer.

@theghettoracle 2 жыл бұрын

Skip is the homie, Gotten a chance to tap in with him onetime and he really is about the youth and has great ideas unfortunately not many of his peers carry the same focus or energy.

@stomper1234 2 жыл бұрын

You tapped that?

@mclovin7484 2 жыл бұрын

He said tapped in as in got in touch , contact, communication , geez stomper stay in school kid!

@stomper1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@mclovin7484 ooooooohhhhhhhhhh

@donny357tx 2 жыл бұрын

Salute to big skip...i stay on his channel..i first saw skip on that slippin 10 years with the bloods doc bac in the 90s...sht blew me away when i got older and heard skip say that doc was script..one of the best doc

@donkee9 2 жыл бұрын

He was on slipping? I’ve watched that hella times. Uncle jumbo. And when he cuss the dude on the pier for his rapping being weak was the best parts.

@donny357tx 2 жыл бұрын

@@donkee9 lol exactly..shit classic

@pryncegambino6581 2 жыл бұрын

Much respect to this man .. yuu heard

@markburn4943 2 жыл бұрын

Damn big facts!!! when he said why would u be 35 and follow something that was designed by a 13 year old 🤔 😳

@kidd5952 2 жыл бұрын

Those first 2:20 seconds is how mother's today needs to be raising their CHILDREN. He kept it 💯 about his dad. Not brought up the negativity, lack of knowledge of that his dad was also a PERSON. "Even tho I seen him 5 times a year, he was still my dad"💪🏽💯

@indigospirit9638 2 жыл бұрын

Speaking good sense brother.

@hatman8749 2 жыл бұрын

My pops used to fight alot too in the early 90s got shot 9 times after beating up two niggas for jumping his brother when they left the club he got hit 9 and survived

@YellowMafiaMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Skip is a real hood fixture. #Respect

@FYLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dude just told you he saw his father 4-5 times a year and you ask “so you didn’t see him that much?” right after 🤦🏾‍♂️

@garnettprice5333 2 жыл бұрын

Right

@bookerforte 2 жыл бұрын

That's deep. Hearing fight everybody from both sides

@Youtubesucks916 2 жыл бұрын

RIP monster my favorite all time book

@Anthony-jd8pg 2 жыл бұрын

Real talk, that book started my love for reading at 19 years old.

@Firstnameunknownfr 2 жыл бұрын

F that book! That book made a lot of kids monsters

@Malitubee 2 ай бұрын

@@Firstnameunknownfr I guarantee it steered more kids away from that lifestyle, than it actually made monsters

@Firstnameunknownfr 2 ай бұрын

@@Malitubee cap

@exoticverify637 2 жыл бұрын

wish we could all get along fr , shit would be unstoppable

@marcellusbeasley9749 2 жыл бұрын

That part, “on code” movement

@Malitubee 2 ай бұрын

I swear we would

@chrisrobinson3831 2 жыл бұрын

I was the youngest of 3. New Orleans. 90s. My mama, cousins, brother, sister, uncles, aunt's, they Ain play that getting beat up shit. Well u can get beat up, but not without fighting back. We fought like a mf. I was skinny as hell. We fought but we didn't HATE eachother.

@user-lb9ee2ur1k 2 жыл бұрын

Monster was tryna make him tough

@NoName-is2es 2 жыл бұрын

Monster Wanted Him To Be 8Trey 😂

@user-lb9ee2ur1k 2 жыл бұрын

@@NoName-is2es no doubt skip wasn't givin in that's where he grew up at so they were coo wit him the 60s did him colder cause they didn't know him

@TonyVega123 2 жыл бұрын

"I helped Tookie commit his first murder. I showed him how to bust on fools." - TK Kirkland

@rickimhotep1236 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Frank.and.Beanzz 2 жыл бұрын

Dry

@mannypacbeloud5786 2 жыл бұрын

What u mean by that? - Druski

@kingmontague1926 2 жыл бұрын

Lol good one

@fareedthetailor 2 жыл бұрын

This brother real cool hope we can connect someday for our youth org here in CA

@jamesmarks6390 2 жыл бұрын

I can make that happen with Skipp

@ral8672 2 жыл бұрын

Monster Kody had his own way to show you love-Crazy seeing the difference between him and Wack100, all the money in the world can’t fix ignorance.

@BrooklynsFinest34 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm going to send people to rob you & beat you down to show you love. Really‽

@mookfarooq 2 жыл бұрын

Smart Guy...@Skip.👍🎯💯✌️

@StoNeC_TheTable 2 жыл бұрын

Classic interview

@djflash7503 2 жыл бұрын

Why in the Black community it’s always the fathers fault when a young man turns to the streets.I grew up in one of the worst housing projects in America and never thought about getting involved in the streets and me and my brother was raised by a single mother. As a 54 year old African American man I will never let me not having a father in my house hold be the blame for the way I carried myself as a youth. As well as a grown man.And just to add one of my homeboys is the owner of TDE.

@bossknight3238 2 жыл бұрын

because it's the truth, just like if a young man is successful without his dad he is viewed as a "success". Studies have shown for years the likelihood of a child's success is greater in 2 parent homes. This is not the case for our community as a whole because we've been broken since we got here. As someone born and raised in South Central L.A. I can attest to what Skip is talking about because it's our reality out here.

@alphonsomorris793 2 жыл бұрын

@@bossknight3238 I wouldn't say necessarily that we've "broken" since we got here. I'll say we've have problems at the foundation of our cultural identity. The black family was really at it strongest during Jim Crow. But it pretty much stayed together up until social integration. silent Generation black American leadership sold out what worked and was industrious about the culture black people were able to cultivate.

@alphonsomorris793 2 жыл бұрын

@@ws6258 u get a ٪, it also takes a "village" community to raise up the next generation overall in a positive direction.

@JamesJohnson52990 2 жыл бұрын

Man if you actually sit here and truly believe that a child with two parents doesnt have a greater chance at success becuz yo ass was somehow was an exception to the rule then you arent living in reality. The fact is, especially as black people we need our children raised in two parent households. We have little to no room for error. We need to do things as right as possible. Shout out to yo momma or whatever but stop acting like a positive male role model for a young nigga in the hood wont do wonders for his development.

@rickimhotep1236 2 жыл бұрын

It's just a cliché bruh! One of my buddies has killed at least two people, he grew up with both parents in the house AND his pop was a preacher! It's a personal thing when we choose a different way, not sure if it's rebellion or what but it does have a little to do with the dad not being thee IF your mother is ghetto or is hardly there because she works. You'll find time to do things with the outside that you wouldn't dare do when she's home! Now that I think about my other old head buddy he's killed at least two people(went to prison for one) and he was raised with both parents, plus 6 siblings. His shit is just in his blood. He cool and I trust him with my life but......

@orlandomorris6628 2 жыл бұрын

Skip remind s me if my friend fred step dad that lived in dallas tx on centerville road ,he was a real guy just like skip he use to give me and fred lecture s about building at a young age and he told us to work for ourselves I miss fred the older guy like skip there mom was cool and his sister

@Doepeshiomc 2 жыл бұрын

I remember SKIP in crips and bloods made in America documentary... glad to see him grow he always kept it real. Hard to not like him

@wpbdog1625 2 жыл бұрын

If you listen to him you wouldn't have to ask the same question or him say something you already had asked. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@blakk000 Жыл бұрын

Exactly how my mother was.

@Koj0 2 жыл бұрын

Realist shi ever .. Salute

@westl.a3380 2 жыл бұрын

Salute Big skip..

@CG_800 2 жыл бұрын

Skip you a legend

@Enveonline 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting O.G had a Physician Assistant as a father but his father was mostly absent. I’d imagine if his father was present his outcome would be a lot different

@reggiekaz4147 2 жыл бұрын

@1:37 that's crazy his moms didn't want to be around his dad but dude was an educated black man. I thought he would be a brother out there running these streets. Wow some black women really think they can raise three boys by their selves smh wow

@blvdquan9215 2 жыл бұрын

You don’t know the circumstances

@noexcusestv2027 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently he didn’t want to be around

@musak.4068 2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@darthspork7194 2 жыл бұрын

My generation was the same way,dont let anyone push you around and fight em...then the parents wonder why we got into it all the time

@ab.420 2 жыл бұрын

Real G💯😎

@Eighties_Baby 2 жыл бұрын

Skip is a genius

@drakotv9240 2 жыл бұрын

I remember I had a fight outside before they had opened the doors to let us in the school in 6th grade n got suspended…My sperm donor told me I should’ve went n told the principal while my mama said I did the right thing….I stopped respecting my sperm donor after that

@godscience7821 2 жыл бұрын

Tookie was like the boggie man lol shit I would go inside lol respect brother skip.

@lifestraight 2 жыл бұрын

@WaRREN DAVId IS THAT A GOOD THING??!?!?!

@mariohannon4665 2 жыл бұрын

Think brother... think....why would a KID run in the house... because of a GROWN MAN coming down the street??? I doubt most are catching the point because he is R.I.P and extremely hood famous...do ur on math brother it's obvious. Peace 2 u

@lifestraight 2 жыл бұрын

@@mariohannon4665 What are you talking about?

@mariohannon4665 2 жыл бұрын

@@lifestraight where I'm from....when we were told 2 come in the house because of a GROWN ass man is coming and we were kids...it's wasn't because he was a gang member or a street fighter. U have heard of a grown man that's hood famous fighting kids ? NO!!! I'm sure u heard other things that aren't favorable to talk about that grown men may do to little kid's. I'm sure ur intelligent enough too figure that part out

@alanbrown3172 2 жыл бұрын

Damn Big Skip lived right around the corner from OOOG Cutes, Mouse, Rusty, . How often did y'all come to blows ? Or were they older than you

@Nonstopfilms100 2 жыл бұрын

My mom did the same ..raised me the very same way

@brandofoster6195 2 жыл бұрын

Always thought it was Greg Townsend from the Raiders.

@HoustonMade91 2 жыл бұрын

We hear to much of "my mother taught me" it should be my FATHER. Thats why our community is fucked up

@drewscagnetti6225 2 жыл бұрын

OG skip townsend

@TRogers13 2 жыл бұрын

That’s right SKIP ❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯

@user-bl1qn3of5t 2 жыл бұрын

4:19-neve4 heard it explained like that

@jwill03 2 жыл бұрын

Wow explain a lot everyone fighting cause was told fight everyone never back down

@alexreddick.jr.8886 2 жыл бұрын

Monsta was clouted up, he wasn't duking you Skipper.

@mallwilliams8695 2 жыл бұрын

3:30s knowledge begins

@Son1UPTu 2 жыл бұрын

Like he said you have Mature and get out the streets

@darrellebutler324 2 жыл бұрын

These young boys now a days would smoke Tookie ass they not playing all that Bully shit

@jankycuz11um88 2 жыл бұрын

Why u think the shootings in the 70s with shotguns and 22s started happening all the time

@mariohannon4665 2 жыл бұрын

All I knew is when ur a kid,and there is a grown man in the neighborhood...IM SPEAKING FROM WHERE IM FROM...u ain't running in the house because of fear of this grown ass man may hit u....it's another reason why u would...I will let u guys figure that out. Sum of us may not like 2 be REAL when it comes 2 HOOD or CELEBRITY legends...but I love what Skip is saying.... peace 2 him and everyone on the post and no disrespect 2 anyone. But there are certain individuals that are street legends and information about sum of there behavior IS LEFT out from the general public.4 a reason!🤔

@lornepatterson1393 2 жыл бұрын

All these so called gangsters die broke wit nothin to show.

@yaseen5121 2 жыл бұрын

Thats how the game go, ain't no retirement plans or 401ks

@koolyp2444 2 жыл бұрын

@@yaseen5121 they do have free housing, food and all the booty weed you can smoke in the pen:)

@HollyCain44 2 жыл бұрын

Great observation Charleston White Jr.

@koolyp2444 2 жыл бұрын

@@HollyCain44 just a lil joke:) nigga act like i lied tho??

@seanmichaels3591 2 жыл бұрын

Willie D Said That

@TonyBMoviehood 2 жыл бұрын

So Tookie & Monster was real life Debo

@vincentharris2259 2 жыл бұрын

Tony B Moviehood.... Back in the day they was able to get away with that but catching a fade with a nigga was starting to play out.

@TonyBMoviehood 2 жыл бұрын

@@vincentharris2259 Yea absolutely. Different day today

@vincentharris2259 2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyBMoviehood People keep saying that they fought like men back in the day They were shooting instead of fighting back then too.

@TonyBMoviehood 2 жыл бұрын

@@vincentharris2259 Not as much shooting tho. Way more gun access now x3

@vincentharris2259 2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyBMoviehood That's true.

@brianlarkin8208 2 жыл бұрын

I understand what he is trying to say but when your 12 and 13 you have a lemonade store. When your 25 and up you have a lemonade franchise.

@eastside313yahdig.2 Жыл бұрын

When CW said this @4:00 (Grown men still in gangs) He was considered a hater and they was mad at him. ??? Why?

@ODDMALTV 2 жыл бұрын

So she was very much street 🤷🏾‍♂️

@billpeart4809 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not a gang member or gang banger but if someone puts hands on me I’m going to defend myself once you put hands on me there’s nothing to talk about whatever the consequences are I’ll deal with it I’m not looking for trouble or starting trouble and I know how to reason as a man but once it gets physical there is nothing to talk about

@whodat1884 2 жыл бұрын

@hustlengrind8833 2 жыл бұрын

Said the same thing Charleston White said

@peteybeatstraw7010 2 жыл бұрын

facts

@Guru-7eight 2 жыл бұрын

Come on skipp. Lol that shit come afterwards. It’s about teaching your kids to defend themselves. The parents cud figure out what, why & how.

@Oats665 2 жыл бұрын

🕊❤️

@moreala6275 2 жыл бұрын

I never heard anyone break it down like that way follow something a 13yr started

@blast4me754 2 жыл бұрын

If the Crips or Bloods were more of a mafia style organization with real leaders, structure, co leaders, presidents and treasurers it would be more understandable being an adult still being involved.

@svchief21st 2 жыл бұрын

They don’t do it for money