Battle For Labour: Jeremy Corbyn & Owen Smith In Final Labour Leadership Debate

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7 жыл бұрын

The leadership rivals set out their vision for Labour's future in a debate moderated by Sky News Political Editor Faisal Islam.
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Пікірлер: 155
@gollypo448
@gollypo448 7 жыл бұрын
Smith is not very keen on democracy, is he? He comes off as very slimey.
@Kayzef2003
@Kayzef2003 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe its just me. but there is something about Owen Smith that makes him untrustworthy. I just keep remembering a young Tony Blair.
@chriscolyer2579
@chriscolyer2579 7 жыл бұрын
No, it's there for all to see. I started the campaign backing him, but he's been unconvincing and his EU stance boarders on comical. Overall better to give Corbyn the 2020 election, which he'll either miraculously win, or more likely miserably lose and can then be replaced by a better candidate than Smith. Sticking Smith in by contrast just means a reboot of the 'neither here nor there' Miliband leadership.
@nerdsville2299
@nerdsville2299 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriscolyer2579 this comment aged like a fine wine
@nrnar
@nrnar 7 жыл бұрын
Corbyn wins hands down.
@SandymoorFerrariClub
@SandymoorFerrariClub 4 жыл бұрын
Wait. What did Corbyn win?
@JT-sr2pl
@JT-sr2pl 4 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Good luck with that
@CuteTartanCat
@CuteTartanCat 4 жыл бұрын
@@SandymoorFerrariClub The 2016 leadership election which this whole debate was about.
@AyoAYO-cm6hb
@AyoAYO-cm6hb 3 жыл бұрын
He lost the election badly though and now tories reign untouched. Corbyn completely got it wrong despite good intentions. Now Labour is completely out the race because of him
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 8 ай бұрын
​@@CuteTartanCatIn the long run they were both hopeless candidates for Labour.
@alexsheene3810
@alexsheene3810 7 жыл бұрын
Owen looked lost when he turned up, like he wasn't sure where the party was.
@aidencurl
@aidencurl 7 жыл бұрын
Probably cos he's in the wrong party. (heh heh heh)
@RabbidTheNabbit
@RabbidTheNabbit Жыл бұрын
people say owen smith predicted corbyn losing but i really doubt he could've won against boris johnson in 2019, or even achieved a hung parliament against theresa may in 2017
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 8 ай бұрын
Exactly especially when he kept arrogantly saying they needed a second referendum, which is what Labour did in the end and suffered badly whilst Smith exited politics!
@RabbidTheNabbit
@RabbidTheNabbit 8 ай бұрын
@@Da1Dez yeah and a second referendum was extremely unpopular in 2016, in 2019 it had a decent chunk of support (but obviously not enough lol). but going for a second referendum in 2017? Labour would have been lucky to get as many votes as the tories are currently polling at now in 2023
@positivechange9121
@positivechange9121 7 жыл бұрын
I am 100% confident in supporting Jeremy Corbyn. He is the first politician who has ever inspired me. I am sure he will stay the leader of the Labour Party and I am sure he will be the next Prime Minister. Jeremy Corbyn is a man who has been working towards a fairer world in his whole life, he surely deserves to become the the next Prime Minister and he will make a great one.
@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347
@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 7 жыл бұрын
Hear, Hear
@samuelobree9489
@samuelobree9489 7 жыл бұрын
I am willing to bet literally everything I own that Corbyn will not be the next Prime Minister. He is a laughing stock of a politician, a back stabber, disloyal, deceitful and a bully. The man makes my skin crawl
@nunyabusiness7858
@nunyabusiness7858 7 жыл бұрын
+John Brown Whatever Rupert Murdoch says right?
@SandymoorFerrariClub
@SandymoorFerrariClub 4 жыл бұрын
How's your certainty about Jeremy Corbyn being PM going?
@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347
@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 7 жыл бұрын
JC owned that debate. I hear Corbyn speak & its like conversing with an adult, whereas Smith just comes across as yet another slimy self serving windbag in a long line of slimy self serving windbags. Constantly points out how divided the party is & how he agrees with JC on many many things yet instead of respecting the vote of the members by uniting behind the elected leader to accomplish the things they agree on he promotes the division he lays at the feet of JC. Just the same with his view on brexit. To hell with the democratic process we'll just vote again while making sure the murdoch media machine & the propaganda mouthpiece that is the BBC spit out enough crap to make the people do what the establishment wants. JC for PM, time for change.
@andrewballetto7641
@andrewballetto7641 7 жыл бұрын
well put
@JT-sr2pl
@JT-sr2pl 4 жыл бұрын
BOLLOCKS
@n100tey
@n100tey 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn will be our next elected UK and Labour Prime Minister . Please support and vote Corby and true labour :)
@Nightstalkercod
@Nightstalkercod 7 жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming.
@Nightstalkercod
@Nightstalkercod 7 жыл бұрын
uzza55 And?
@WitsEnds
@WitsEnds 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn will never, and I mean *never*, be Prime Minister of the UK.
@rupertoldham1031
@rupertoldham1031 7 жыл бұрын
Muhahahahahaa, hahahahaha. Hilarious.
@tommo9176
@tommo9176 7 жыл бұрын
haha good luck with that
@veronicathecow
@veronicathecow 7 жыл бұрын
Owen Smith. "Blah blah blah, Jeremy Corbyn bad, Blah blah blah, Jeremy Corbyn bad, Blah blah blah, Jeremy Corbyn bad." Am I beginning to see a pattern here? Perhaps people would vote for Owen if he didn't use every opportunity to put down another member of his own party and instead put forward good ideas and opposed the conservatives.
@BudFieldsPPTS
@BudFieldsPPTS 7 жыл бұрын
Especially when he spends evry other second saying that the election isn't about one man, but since I mentioned it...Jeremy bad, I'm not Jeremy!" That's his platform; that's his position. He seems to feel confident that such a position is sufficient to secure his election. What does that say for his backers, and especially the PLP?
@beatonthedonis
@beatonthedonis 4 жыл бұрын
Smith was completely stumped when Corbyn moved the discussion onto vision and policies.
@BudFieldsPPTS
@BudFieldsPPTS 7 жыл бұрын
"Owen why don't we...". Leadership in action. And, as witnessed here, completely effective. Thanks for the example, Owen. See ya.
@positivechange9121
@positivechange9121 7 жыл бұрын
Watch from 26:26 until 27:23 and also from 29:08 until 29:41 and pay attention on Owen's facial expressions, specially at 29:38 !!! Does Owen care about democracy and socialism or does he just pretend that he cares? Hmm....
@Samara.Weaving
@Samara.Weaving 7 жыл бұрын
Owen Smith = LIAR !!
@braindonor8753
@braindonor8753 7 жыл бұрын
Good day for Jezza. Thrashed May at PMQ's then Smith here. May is terrible and probably has the most difficult job of any PM ever. I reckon the Tories could well go through a split every bit as ugly during these brexit negotiations.
@syedakther6900
@syedakther6900 7 жыл бұрын
My vote is for Corbyn
@chamdotenzin1
@chamdotenzin1 7 жыл бұрын
what kind of husting is it with pre chosen questions and biases. What a disgrace!
@daniellowe9929
@daniellowe9929 7 жыл бұрын
Owen is a weasel vote Corbyn.
@MellorDR
@MellorDR 7 жыл бұрын
corbyn represents the Britain i love
@Nausea85
@Nausea85 7 жыл бұрын
love corbyn
@pauladams1814
@pauladams1814 7 жыл бұрын
JC4PM save NHS and the UK as we know it.
@danbh84
@danbh84 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Adams well that went tits up lol
@lewischerry3552
@lewischerry3552 7 жыл бұрын
yeah a centre platform for labour works great that's why we did so well in the last two elections when we were on a centre platform.
@lewischerry3552
@lewischerry3552 7 жыл бұрын
of course lefties run unions right wingers don't like unions because they don't let businesses walk all over their employees.
@MarineAqua45
@MarineAqua45 7 жыл бұрын
Big difference between Centralist unions & right-wingers who hate unions. Centralists are reasonable.
@walterpalmer6312
@walterpalmer6312 Күн бұрын
:) #Starmer2024
@lewischerry3552
@lewischerry3552 Күн бұрын
@@walterpalmer6312 because of seething public hate for the tories not because of Starmer or his policies.
@HaggardPillockHD
@HaggardPillockHD 7 жыл бұрын
Ugh. Is Labour even relevant these days?
@logician360
@logician360 7 жыл бұрын
Well, it's bigger than every other major party combined...
@rufusstewart762
@rufusstewart762 7 жыл бұрын
Corbyn is very relevant. The labour party itself isn't however.
@razabadass
@razabadass Күн бұрын
Thanke
@MrMjdc
@MrMjdc 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this after GE2017. How wrong was Smith!
@carrauntoohil86
@carrauntoohil86 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this after 2019 GE. How right was Smith.
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 3 жыл бұрын
@@carrauntoohil86 How wrong they both were actually!
@tomlinid
@tomlinid 7 жыл бұрын
I doubt either of this pair will ever be PM.
@ghulamnabi0
@ghulamnabi0 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@paulod27
@paulod27 7 жыл бұрын
Well Corbyn has a better chance than Smith anyway.
@eddie30991
@eddie30991 7 жыл бұрын
0:10 ".. the two men who want to leave it." What?
@myelectioneering
@myelectioneering 7 жыл бұрын
I believe that was deliberate, my friend.
@whoareyou1332
@whoareyou1332 7 жыл бұрын
Haha...I thought I misheard that - clearly not!
@romozanne3854
@romozanne3854 7 жыл бұрын
Psst!.. Sky!.. Your pro-establishment bias is showing!
@johnoconnell6096
@johnoconnell6096 7 жыл бұрын
Funny how Jeremy didn't mention anti-semitism carried out by a religious group called Muslims but referred to European anti-semitism, hmmm wonder why?
@article504
@article504 7 жыл бұрын
"many Zionist Jews seem to me to be merely antisemites turned upside-down" - George Orwell
@danmcgill6169
@danmcgill6169 6 жыл бұрын
pretty sur the guy said at the beginning 'the two men who want to leave it' lol
@dennisbenn2065
@dennisbenn2065 4 жыл бұрын
A man telling the future at 42:14
@sanaypatel1134
@sanaypatel1134 7 жыл бұрын
Owen smith said 10 more years of Tories. So he already accepted defeat in 2020
@oliveroconnor5983
@oliveroconnor5983 7 жыл бұрын
Corybn is a man who could either bury the Labour Party or bring it into a new era of dominance
@ianheaver3217
@ianheaver3217 4 жыл бұрын
Fortunately it was the former . LMFAO !
@tomlinid
@tomlinid 7 жыл бұрын
Who likes Tony Blair? I guess George W Bush must like him?
@SuperFerdie1965
@SuperFerdie1965 7 жыл бұрын
Only because Tony likes to suck.
@tomlinid
@tomlinid 7 жыл бұрын
Francis Artanis I think Maggie Thatcher liked him and approved of his policies more than John Major.
@igorvaryvdin6714
@igorvaryvdin6714 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, Tony was a perfect labour PM for tories.
@tomlinid
@tomlinid 7 жыл бұрын
Igor Varyvdin I am surprised he didn't defect to the Tory party their interests are more in line with his. He introduced private finance initiatives and opened the door for privatization of the NHS by the back door.
@igorvaryvdin6714
@igorvaryvdin6714 7 жыл бұрын
tomlinid Nah, nah that's the point. No matter what party gets the power big companies will earn their profit with guys like Tony and friends. This is why they try to get rid of Corbyn before general elections.
@nogoingback1
@nogoingback1 7 жыл бұрын
Owen Smith behaves like a man who wishes to lead his political party and ultimately the Govt and country. Corbyn is quite content running an unelectable protest party. Sadly for Labour, Corbyn will win by a mile.
@jeremycaldwell6881
@jeremycaldwell6881 7 жыл бұрын
couldnt have been more biased if they tried
@paulduffy697
@paulduffy697 7 жыл бұрын
Labour has no future..
@rupertoldham1031
@rupertoldham1031 7 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@chriscolyer2579
@chriscolyer2579 7 жыл бұрын
Possibly. Who replaces it though? Looks like there's a real window now for a new party. If none emerges Labour will eventually come back, but it won't be in this decade.
@nunyabusiness7858
@nunyabusiness7858 7 жыл бұрын
+Chris Coyler I'm scared because UKIP is picking up steam in the North of England
@daniellowe9929
@daniellowe9929 7 жыл бұрын
Oh please don't boo.......melt.
@TheMrBennito
@TheMrBennito 7 жыл бұрын
congratulations Jeremy Corbyn. POWER to the PEOPLE
@alhassanmahmood361
@alhassanmahmood361 5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy corbyn your the winner
@SandymoorFerrariClub
@SandymoorFerrariClub 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this after General Election 2019. No, he isn't the winner.
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez Жыл бұрын
​@@SandymoorFerrariClub Smith wouldn't have won either.
@1ramises
@1ramises Жыл бұрын
How prophetic owen was he saw the writing on the wall and how crap corbyn was and a shame we had to lose massively for lab to learn we were on the wrong side of history with a very bad incompetent leader !!!
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 8 ай бұрын
Owen Smith would've been disastrous for Labour too, this was a case where there was no clear leader for the party.
@suziejones4750
@suziejones4750 7 жыл бұрын
No subtitles? :(
@roderickblakeman3430
@roderickblakeman3430 7 жыл бұрын
The unelectable v the unelectable, how pathetic, Labour need to disband and then for the former members to create a number of different parties so that the electorate can choose which way to go.
@article504
@article504 7 жыл бұрын
*+Roderick Blakeman* The electorate is choosing Corbyn.
@SandymoorFerrariClub
@SandymoorFerrariClub 4 жыл бұрын
@@article504 Not according the General Election in 2019.
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 5 жыл бұрын
Smith was a stalking horse candidate for the Blairites in the PLP
@ukpropaganda
@ukpropaganda 7 жыл бұрын
Labour ; will it become an artefact ir a farty act?
@carrauntoohil86
@carrauntoohil86 3 жыл бұрын
Owen Smith was right when he said Corbyn wasn't serious about winning power.
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 2 жыл бұрын
He was right about that, but was he right in saying a second referendum was needed, which corbyn ultimately did in the end and heartland voters turned against them.
@ianheaver3217
@ianheaver3217 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here post the 2019 GE and laughing loudly at the demise of Comrade Corbyn and the Labour party? I voted for them many years ago but now I hope Labour is finished forever!
@anneiv
@anneiv 6 жыл бұрын
Corbyn will never be PM. May will stay on as PM until Brexit is done then new Tory leader before GE2022. Labour is toast.
@RabbidTheNabbit
@RabbidTheNabbit 4 жыл бұрын
Well may is gone now
@SandymoorFerrariClub
@SandymoorFerrariClub 4 жыл бұрын
@@RabbidTheNabbit Good point. Is Corbyn PM now?
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