Slabs and Waffles and Bakes, Oh My! A History of Soviet AK Magazines

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In recent months, a couple of interesting developmental varieties of AK mags have appeared on the market here in the US, and I figure folks might be interested in learning about the history of where and when they came from, and why they were used or not used. So today, we will look at the progression from slabside to ribbed to aluminum to "bakelite" magazines for the AK-47, AKM, AK-74, RPK, and RPK-74. Russian ones, anyway - we will leave magazines from other countries for another day!

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@wild50gunner 7 жыл бұрын

Fun fact the slab mags sides are the same thickness (1mm) as the standard stamped AK receiver

@Fireclaws10 7 жыл бұрын

For those extra special field repairs

@xxSgtXioXxx291 7 жыл бұрын

wild50gunner That's weirdly satisfying

@armchairgeneralissimo 7 жыл бұрын

@Rochyan Not just field repairs when you run out of ammo you can use those magazines as a makeshift baton.

@nikola12nis 5 жыл бұрын

So basically,the steel slab one stops a 9mm.Nice...lol

@notasoviet1016 5 жыл бұрын

Grassmasks greatest champion ouch..

@opraners 7 жыл бұрын

I recall watching a video where a US soldier stated one of his favorite things about AK's was the fact he could take a mag off the gun a beat some one to death with it.

@kalashloy4179 7 жыл бұрын

The image of Polenar Tactical's Manca beating the mannequin with one instantly pops out in my brain, lol

@vegaspapp339 4 жыл бұрын

Tape a grenade to it, boom, stielhandgrenada

@totalannihilation9065 4 жыл бұрын

They are heavy as hell with rounds on them so I believe it.

@Infernal969 7 жыл бұрын

Knowing Russians it was thick steel at first so the spare ones could be later converted into tanks.

@rossomachin 7 жыл бұрын

Infernal969 Funny (I'm Russian)

@ErnestoLopez-qj7iu 7 жыл бұрын

magazines so strong they were added to the armor on tanks

@robbiedickson3386 7 жыл бұрын

youre not joking, russian cigarettes were made in 7.62 mil so the machinery could be converted over to making ammunition if need be, heck even their car factorys were designed to be easily convertible to making APCs

@Timsturbs 6 жыл бұрын

same legend was about 7.62 macaroni pasta

@kozyrev82 6 жыл бұрын

Cigarettes, yeah. The same rumor goes about the Soviet pasta. That's bullshit.

@Prowbar 7 жыл бұрын

I'd be very interested in seeing another video on drum magazines.

@JonatasAdoM 7 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@plague46 5 жыл бұрын

You mean jamazines.

@PedroThePanda64 5 жыл бұрын

@@plague46 IZ WONDERFUL COMMUNIST INVENTION, DO NOT QUESTION COMRADE.

@Oberkommando 3 жыл бұрын

@@plague46 well since the russian "zaslon" special forces use 7.62x39 drum mags to this day - they seem to be very effective. I'd guess the reliability issues stem from the fact that most american import drums are old, have been used for ages thus having weak springs. That's the same reason people call Luger P08 mags trash. They are not trash - the springs are just old.

@LUR1FAX 3 жыл бұрын

@@Oberkommando Hmm. Interesting. Oddly similar to why American soldiers have issues with their M16/M4 rifles. Fragile mags plus old springs and worn out parts. If the magazine isn't 100%, you're always gonna have problems.

@OrcActual 7 жыл бұрын

Wake up to take a piss and now I'm forced to watch this. God damnit Ian

@Nukle0n 7 жыл бұрын

Just don't check your phone when you take a piss at night, go right to the potty and then go right back to bed.

@wcam7822 7 жыл бұрын

TMI!

@willowrabbit 7 жыл бұрын

why not do both at once?

@cardboard_shaft 7 жыл бұрын

+John Floyd congrats

@OrcActual 7 жыл бұрын

John Floyd I hope I'm as high speed as you one day

@chapiit08 7 жыл бұрын

I remember as a child back in the early seventies looking at a color cover photograph on an Italian magazine of an African (probably Ethiopian or Sudanese) woman holding an AK rifle equiped with a bakelite magazine as a flie covered child was next to her grabbing her robe. Back then I was totally in the dark in regards to guns and I wondered for years what that orange mag was made of or why it was painted orange...

@ErnestHemingwayJr 7 жыл бұрын

I've had a similar experience, and eventually came to the conclusion that these were regular magazines wrapped in packing tape... Funny to think about it now

@zoltanbodnar9721 7 жыл бұрын

i always tought they were made of copper

@marpfel 7 жыл бұрын

Painted orange because of Health and Safety Regulations. xD

@Blido 7 жыл бұрын

When I was a noob I was convinced that they paint magazines orange to make them easier to find when dropped on the ground :P

@zoltanbodnar9721 7 жыл бұрын

i know but i just couldn't imagine a magazine not made out of some kind of metal. :D

@scottverge938 7 жыл бұрын

I'd imagine the polymer mags would be nicer to handle in harsh winter conditions as well.

@sillygoose210_6 7 жыл бұрын

Scott Verge they would become a little brittle in extreme cold but they would not freeze to your hands lol

@LazyLifeIFreak 7 жыл бұрын

Having spent 7 years in my life as a gardener, you come to realize how absolutely horrible a all-steel tool is to use without some kind of wood or plastic/rubber covering.

@scottverge938 7 жыл бұрын

Silly you got my comment completely backwards. I was pointing out that they would be nicer to your hands than metal in cool weather. I've found the same thing as a photographer. My aluminum tripod is murder in cold weather. Which is why I added foam sleeves to the legs.

@dranomilkshake 7 жыл бұрын

LazyLife IFreak see any combat?

@LazyLifeIFreak 7 жыл бұрын

dranomilkshake Nope thou I have worked under some of the same conditions at least weather-wise. Cold, wet hands on all-metal rake is god awful.

@Sshooter444 7 жыл бұрын

I took a drink every time you said "robust"...now Im hammered!

@HanSolo-iy3eq 5 жыл бұрын

When gun Jesus gets kicked out of the auction house so he has to go to a gun store and review gun magazines.

@killzoneisa 7 жыл бұрын

All that line up need is the green bakelite magazine.

@davidokeif8304 5 жыл бұрын

Do you have a Chinese all-stamped or Bosnian two-rib/Fleur-de-lis?

@mrguiltyfool 4 жыл бұрын

@@davidokeif8304 i think you can easily found chinese ones in Canada

@davidokeif8304 4 жыл бұрын

@@mrguiltyfool Chinese ones are not hard to find (usually are flat-backs), but there is a specific type that is wholly constructed of stamped parts, nothing is milled, which are really interesting. I have one of these that came from Yugoslavia.

@RustedCroaker 4 жыл бұрын

Green magz are only for FSB border guard vets. PS. There were never any magazine made of a bakelite in the USSR/Russia.

@johnsegertsons2143 3 жыл бұрын

It must've been a historical 1st ,when the Soviet military said " Yup those slab sided Magazines are too robust and durable" !

@DeanmC261993 7 жыл бұрын

waffles, slabs of meat and baked goods.....DAMMIT IAN now I'm hungry!

@hoangvan0925 7 жыл бұрын

DeanmC261993 Ribbs should also be included in the title of this video.

@andrewamann8855 7 жыл бұрын

DeanmC261993 and they're all bananas...

@WillMoon 7 жыл бұрын

Your generic eastern euro mag looks Romanian. It has the back rib so it's not Chinese, two tack welds at the front locking lugs is usually the giveaway. East German mags are typically finer quality than that and have a fairly rich bluing. Yugo mags are easy to identify by looking at the follower, which will have a little lobe extension to lock the bolt to the rear after firing. Romanian mags also have a number of spot welds on the back rib that are similar to what you've got. The dead giveaway is usually arsenals would stamp the ribs on the back of the mags for other manufacturers.

@WillMoon 7 жыл бұрын

In publication no, but I know AK mags, I've collected them for years and I know what I buy when I buy it.

@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty good with Chinese, and I know the Yugo mags, but the others are too similar for me (for now).

@Pdro-gw7lu 7 жыл бұрын

Will Moon what do you think of the green Bakelite mags that we're going round recently? Scam or legit?

@WillMoon 7 жыл бұрын

Probably someone dyed them, I've heard and read about some experimental colored bakelite mags from Russia but I don't think they were ever manufactured in any large numbers, if you're seeing them in the USA they're probably fake.

@nandong3954 7 жыл бұрын

Will Moon I have couple Chinese mags with rib back and matte finish. Can tell Chinese from the triangle 66 mark. Very interesting pieces.

@Ilustre87 5 жыл бұрын

Funny, I remember arguing about who gets to carry the Bakelite mags. When you have to carry 4 of them for long periods of time the difference is huge.

@krugerblue 7 жыл бұрын

The stamped magazines are the ones I also used when I served. They were a massive pain in the ass, because they were all quite beat-up and old, and most of them were bent, hence the follower would remain stuck in inward indentations. We had like a template that you would put the magazine on (after taking off it;s butt plate) butt-first, and then with a rubber hammer we would constantly try to fix them, but once you dropped one down, most probably it needed hammering again. All in all - pretty mad mags....bad memories.

@belokonev-dan 7 жыл бұрын

I'm from Russia, Izhevsk, and it's cool and weird in some way to see magazines from Izhevsk in USA.

@tbone5040 Жыл бұрын

I like seeing comments like this.They make the internet cooler. Zdravstvuyte from Vermont,USA.

@filipmarkovski9695 7 жыл бұрын

The second magazine is for a Yugoslav zastava M-70.

@user_name_redacted 4 жыл бұрын

Let's all agree it's for a Bulgarian Zastava ;)

@user_name_redacted 3 жыл бұрын

@Mario Jurjević I'm Australian, so unless I e s c a p e, I'll probably never even fire one, though statistically and aesthetically the m70 seems like a better made weapon

@ProphTruth100 3 жыл бұрын

@@user_name_redacted escape to Texas

@alexgriffin2732 5 жыл бұрын

If its covered in cosmoline you know its good

@Whitefang8128 7 жыл бұрын

8:34 is that a shoe?

@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын

That's the armrest of my chair.

@rachaelstevens196 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha

@antdjones05 4 жыл бұрын

Whitefang8128 😂

@Vulcanized 4 жыл бұрын

Electric Avenue shoe.

@babakzekibi315 7 жыл бұрын

1500 likes and 0 dislikes. A very informing video as always. Thank Ian

@freshmemeington4128 6 жыл бұрын

Now it's 27 dislikes

@TodayLifeIsGoood 5 жыл бұрын

@@freshmemeington4128 now it's 34 to over 8k likes^^

@legil2954 2 жыл бұрын

Now its no dislikes again

@nunyabusiness3082 2 жыл бұрын

@@legil2954 lololol

@ryanstanley5634 7 жыл бұрын

Incredible information on the Bakelite! Finally, I understand why it not only costs more but why it even exists.

@panzerzh9864 6 жыл бұрын

Just in addition... Smaller size of 5.45 cartridge is also convenient for "first-out" ammo storage - boxes actually contain 15-rnd clips that superseded 10-rnd clips for 7.62 cartridges (the very same ones that go into SKS carbine). That's how RPK74 ended up with a 45-round magazine - not 40 nor 50... If you'd take a close look at Soviet-made Tactical Chest Rig Magazine Carrier Vest, besides four bigger mag pouches there are two smaller pockets. These are meant for ten clips, holding the other half of rifleman's ammo. The smallest pouch is for clip-to-magazine adaptor, which comes standard with a mag set.

@stewknoles4790 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian. I did not know the many variations. Now I can buy a plastic one and not worry.

@tangier23 4 жыл бұрын

watch out for some of the black plastic mags - especially pro mags

@superbun277 4 жыл бұрын

Generic Eastern European AK Magazine(TM): _Ribbed for her pleasure_

@Fixxate 4 жыл бұрын

Stop. Cease. Halt.

@hannahranga 7 жыл бұрын

Suspect an added bonus to the plastic mags is if it did get enough pressure to be damaged it'd just snap and be obviously broken instead of bending and then maybe feeding.

@rixille 6 жыл бұрын

I love how they colored the mags to be like the wood stock on the guns. Also, only Ian will go into depth over things like gun magazines, you are truly a well-informed and asset to gun history and studies.

@tbone5040 Жыл бұрын

@davidreinhart373 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the slab side magazines could actoally save your life id you had them in a two magazine pouch on your body. Thats 4mm of steel + the ammunition in them.

@acomingextinction Жыл бұрын

that's a solid chunk of metal. i bet it'd stop something like a .45.

@michaelwarenycia7588 6 ай бұрын

A bit late, but allegedly the North Vietnamese were aware of this and their chest rigs were considered to give some crude protection that way.

@davidreinhart373 6 ай бұрын

@@michaelwarenycia7588 Interesting

@michaelwarenycia7588 6 ай бұрын

@@davidreinhart373 random info but since you replied and you seem to have interest, I'll mention...I live in Ukraine (a small city southwest of Kyiv, though my family is from Ternopil). A lot of AKMs in use here. New production but old 7.62 style. And you see all the mag types, except the slab ones, far as I can remember. So at least two gun shop owners tell me, what everyone wants is a Soviet (Radyanski, in ukrainian) AK. Should have asked why but yeah. I know inrangeTV did their mud test and all, but in the trenches/crappy conditions , apparently some of the same reliability problems with ARs that American veterans mentioned since Vietnam (then keep getting told they are wrong by KZfaq) surface again. Also if you can get AP ammo for your AK (I'm assuming you're American and maybe that's why you're interested...you can buy them:) , it really works. I've seen results...not that tungsten cored 556 probably couldn't do the same thing, just we aren't given any whereas we do get tungsten 5.45. and when I say works, I mean on everything from crude steel plates to (based on visual inspection) ceramic.

@PotatoGunsRule 7 жыл бұрын

I bought a Romak 5.45x39 AK variant back in 1998 and ordered 8 of the 30 round bakelite mags for it from Classic Arms. I am so glad I did! That weapon is a bullet hose and the mags made it very fun. I have since found a couple of the 45 round bakelite mags for it (featured in this video) and I may order a couple more. The "waffle" mags are only found on gunbroker now and order a premium. More are expected to come into the country. Distributors do have the "slab sided" mags, I may order some here in a moment. Ian, thanks again for a great video.

@Matvei22420 6 жыл бұрын

Handling mags in cold weather is also a consideration. Freeze your fingertips on metal ones

@theonethatfliesfiller4098 4 жыл бұрын

If the weather is that cold then you'd wear gloves

@sakadabara 4 жыл бұрын

@@theonethatfliesfiller4098 , or you could pee on your hands and warm them up, or chuck them into freshly sliced dog - simples !

@brownmsoe Жыл бұрын

Funny thing, as a kid watching VHS movies in the 90s like Goldeneye, I thought they were made of wood (or at least had a wood covering).

@rapskallion 3 жыл бұрын

Thanls Ian. Your knowledge and articulation are spot on, as always.

@JenniferinIllinois 7 жыл бұрын

I love the look of the bakelite magazines. I need to hunt some down. -Jen

@nefftrooper 4 жыл бұрын

I like that in your videos when you don't know some obscure fact you identify it and make it know. Professional grade videos that feel like a conversation I'd want to have.

@evilcaliberbutt3269 7 жыл бұрын

i loved this video and would like to see a similar video with AR mags if that's at all possible. Thanks Ian.

@mikellwehrer 7 жыл бұрын

I really love this sort of informative video, please keep it up!

@RyanInSD 6 жыл бұрын

They need to have a TV series "to catch a thumbs-downer" I want to know what these people look like. Great video as always Ian, you the man :)

@cannedgoose3259 5 жыл бұрын

I like the Bakes because they're really smooth and flat. There is a video somewhere of some troop using a Bake to open a bottle, and then dine off of the surface of the mag.

@Oktokolo 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. This is all the information about AK mags i needed to know. I will likely never own or use an AK or any other gun. But it was an nteresting and informative watch.

@vasyavasili4713 7 жыл бұрын

Как и всегда, великолепный эпизод! Спасибо!

@Hubert_Cumberdale_ 5 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@Pommezul 4 жыл бұрын

For sure sir

@icu_corey_rn_903 4 жыл бұрын

I ordered a flat bottom NOS Tula Bakelite and I can’t wait for it to come in.

@drake0145 7 жыл бұрын

More magazine history please Ian.

@parchment420 5 жыл бұрын

i have 3 of the 40 round bakelite mags in my collection. :) had four but i gave one to a friend a few years back

@myramadd6651 7 жыл бұрын

I wondered about the orange mags Now I know

@FirelordRob76 7 жыл бұрын

subscribed for more awesome guns as well as your really professional and informed narration.

@m4rkm4n 7 жыл бұрын

So is there a reason why these bakelite magazines look like wood?

@Todd_Coward 7 жыл бұрын

_A E S T H E T I C_

@perfectionist2032 7 жыл бұрын

Deliberate or not, it is a result of poorly mixed polymer ingredients. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bakelite_color_chart_1924_Gifts_to_Treasure_Embed_Art_Company_Jewel_only.tif en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite#Phenolic_sheeten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenol_formaldehyde_resin

@perfectionist2032 7 жыл бұрын

iatsd, pray tell the grades of plastic used.

@m4rkm4n 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying! I actually used to think that the magazines were encased in thin sheets of wood because it fits the AK color pattern. It's just that they even have the typical wood patterns.

@Simon_Nonymous 7 жыл бұрын

I wondered too if it was accident or chance. But I like the 7's veneer explanation best iatsd! Thanks for the info all of you. NB - Bakelite does not have an R in it ;-)

@warmachine_1396 7 жыл бұрын

Great video Ian. Wunderbar!

@stormthrush37 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! From having owned a number of 7.62 AKs, there are a surprising number of 7.62 AK magazine variants out there. There's another kind not touched on here: Chinese. They're just like the Eastern European, but with no rib on the spine (flat back), so a little easier on the thumb. They also seem to have slightly better fit and finish.

@billburns9260 7 жыл бұрын

Great Video Ian!.. I have One of Those Exact Same Heavy Duty Ribbed Mags! the 0 stamp identified it! mine is Polish & Came a with my C11 Polish Parts kit Akms! Great Gun! Great Mag!.. Thanks For The info! Have a Great Day & God Bless You Brother!.

@kennyvancleave2422 7 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fascinating.

@FPSMurdock 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video. Thanks for the education 👍

@RigamortisTortoise 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Can you please do a similar video about all the different G3 magazines?

@boodmyster 7 жыл бұрын

I always wanted to know what the differences between AK mags were about, thanks for making a vid about it

@tamahawkins2815 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Gun Jesus My Dad is Gun Maori from New Zealand. He first started watching your videos to see if he could catch you out with misinformation. As yet he has not been able to so doesn't bother anymore, hence last night's comment. He add's 'If I didn't look like a Mexican I'd immigrate to gun heaven.' (Arizona) Who Dares Wins.

@BrokenRRT 7 жыл бұрын

Tama Hawkins - we here in Arizona accept and love all legality immigrated or visiting Mexicans. We even have a bit of Australians and kiwis living here. I use to work with a few at the county hospital.

@tamahawkins2815 7 жыл бұрын

BrokenRRT thanks for clearing that up, so can we imigrate there. gun laws in NZ suck

@karlrobbers 7 жыл бұрын

Try living under Australia's gun laws then tell me how bad new Zealand's are.

@tamahawkins2815 7 жыл бұрын

karlrobbers That is true, you guys have it pretty bad compared to us

@nevileasterling648 7 жыл бұрын

New Zealand has fairly good gun laws. You can even own full autos. Don't know about new ones though, you can only own the ones made before 1986 in the US though.

@nicholasmaugeri759 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative! Thanks for posting!

@redcat9436 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see more magazine videos like this one.

@chillios2222 2 жыл бұрын

pay attention to the lugs, there are some out there especially the all polymer Bulgarian 40 rounders where the front lug of the magazine goes all the way across and needs to have the edges trimmed to look like these

@thetaconator1234 7 жыл бұрын

I just watched this now i want ak mags i don't even own an ak Dammit Ian

@caseyjoanz 4 жыл бұрын

TheTaconator123 - Wanting an AK is a rational thought. Wanting anything made out of Bakelite? No. Google it. Talk to owners who value function over nostalgia. Bakelite meant it was time to develop polymers and stop trying to perfect plastic. Diallyl Phthalate (DAP) replaced Bakelite on the newly introduced home telephones.

@michaelpetrovich5353 4 жыл бұрын

Do you own a AK now?

@RustedCroaker 4 жыл бұрын

@@caseyjoanz Not a single mag for an AK where made out of bakelite in the USSR/Russia. Steel, aluminum, non dyed or dyed fibre-reinforced polymer (FRP) only.

@mrporbig 3 жыл бұрын

i'm 14 and i've only held a gun once

@cherniqhs 7 жыл бұрын

IN Bulgaria we have all of the types. I have use only the steal and both Bakelite as well as 40 rounds mag for RPK. The first type and the aluminum I only see on ceremonial rifles.

@gregoryfilin8040 5 жыл бұрын

First types are rare. Aluminum are too fragile.

@Nick_Dobru 4 жыл бұрын

cherniqhs болгарин,ты по-русски понимаешь ?

@cherniqhs 4 жыл бұрын

@@Nick_Dobru I understand a lot , can read a bit but unfortunately can't speak it

@Nick_Dobru 4 жыл бұрын

cherniqhs that’s cool, and I’m also can read in Bulgarian

@Nick_Dobru 4 жыл бұрын

cherniqhs do you have an ak rifle ?

@TheRoopex1 7 жыл бұрын

cool, finns also used those steel mags for rk-62 quite some time. Nowdays we use plastic ones insted.

@andrigorosetti8176 7 жыл бұрын

Ian, i think you may have found a new fan favorite video series (well, for me at the very least) in magazine videos. Any chance we will get to see a drum mag video for the AK?

@Quert_Zuiopue 3 жыл бұрын

East germany did also use bakelite mags for 5.45x39 aks. But we used different ak types at the same time. Besides the AK47, we also had the KM-72, the east german successor to the AKM in service. It was chambered in 7,62x39. So, on pictures from the early 80s you see both mag types, because different calibers were in use. But later, in the late 80s, only the border guards used the KMS-72. All other Units were equipped with AK-74N, AkS-74 and AKS-74NK (The east german PDW).

@funshootin1 7 жыл бұрын

love those steel 30 rnd tantal mags for the 5.45 . kinda have good service from promags 40 rd plastic waffles for the 545 also.. they have two magazine follower lips molded into them where you can cut down a 40 to a 30 and even a 20 ish rnd mag just by cutting just below the edge.. 40 rnd mags are a Lil tall for the range and the bench or prone. . dirt cheap and reliable. the bakelite 45s are just too nice to beat on so I try to limit the use.

@fluuglue 7 жыл бұрын

Another advantage that the plastic bodied magazine has over a metal one is when you dink your magazines against something hard. If you have a metal magazine, you can slightly dent it so that it doesn't really like to feed that well but still look kind of working, causing unforeseen jams during battle. In the other hand the plastic magazine either basically always works in that regard or it is completely obliterated.

@cabbot420 7 жыл бұрын

I believe Bakelite mags are actually Bakelite (or similar thermosetting plastic) with glass fiber reinforcing. They pass most Bakelite tests such as simichrome and if you heat them a little by rubbing or warm water you smell a little formaldehyde.

@bitfreakazoid 7 жыл бұрын

Oh man. Going into AK mag variants is a whole can of worms. So many cool different ones out there to collect. I've mostly stuck with AK74 mags and even then there are so many different variants. My prized mag would be my black polymer 50 round quadstack mag for the 74.

@gergemall 2 жыл бұрын

Love your channel

@shaggydoo2495 6 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a video on the AEK-971 or the AK-12 if you ever get the chance. Not exactly forgotten because of video games it would be really cool to see them

@tarkin1980apa 4 жыл бұрын

LGR would go nuts about the wood grain like pattern on that AK-74 mag.

@MichaelJones-ny3ot 7 жыл бұрын

awesome video thanks Ian

@snoopypingas5426 6 жыл бұрын

In the finnish military we were frying sausages on top of the RK mag springs 😂 those are also plastic mags but they have an enforcing pattern like those metal ones.

@DeviantOllam 7 жыл бұрын

heh, took me until the very end of the video to figure out that thing moving on the lower left of the wide shots was (i think) the arm of your chair! (it kept looking like a shoe, and i was all "how the hell is a shoe floating randomly up off the floor like that??) also, i was of course thinking "daaaaamn, Ian kicks out some goddamn awesome content!" :-)

@tannerb5716 6 жыл бұрын

nice , keep up the great work .

@AluminumStud 7 жыл бұрын

I saw some slab side mags for sale for a very good price a few years ago, but was too slow to get them. The reds keep trickling in and some online sellers have them for sale right now (Dec 2016).

@tacticaltrex6490 7 жыл бұрын

awesome Ian... thanks

@juliuspeperwood1128 4 жыл бұрын

AK mags are what sparked my interest with firearm history and started my collection.

@830UFO 3 жыл бұрын

So you just collect and don't fire with them?

@jackmcslay 7 жыл бұрын

8:57 optical illusion - it looks like the first one is larger yet all but the last one are the same size

@JoeyP322 7 жыл бұрын

Another informative video... thanks

@gregoryfilin8040 5 жыл бұрын

So if we're talking the AKM, that means Soviets adopted these around 1965-1970, which would mean they adopted polymer mags before pretty much anyone else. That's pretty far forward thinking on their part. And it does make sense, since all Russian made mags and drums are polymer, and are considered the best to own in the Eastern Bloc.

@maddmac9473 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for actually having a video for this nerd info I was looking for while laying in bed at midnight

@davidokeif8304 5 жыл бұрын

I find the Chinese all stamped AK mag to be one of the most interesting. Got one about eleven years ago when one place online was selling bulk packs.

@thebrandon9287 2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation, thank you 👏

@ajgrant9954 7 жыл бұрын

Ian, are you going to talk about the unicorn 5.45 quad stack "coffin" mags? Surefire did a pretty good job copying them.

@benjamindavidovichwaals2899 4 жыл бұрын

Used one of those polymer magazines when I was served last year. Pretty durable they are

@YHM15 7 жыл бұрын

love the "Bakelite" mags!

@plasot 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, I was using steel mag for kbk wz 88 Tantal

@isaac4048 5 жыл бұрын

There is an OTK stamp on bakelite mag, which is Quality Control.

@andorpetrei663 4 жыл бұрын

My father who had mandatory military training in he hungarian army said, that the bakelite magazines were 'throwable' but they had to keep the steel magazines to use them.

@scoink3 7 жыл бұрын

Could you do a video on the AN-94? Maybe its not forgotten but its a very interesting gun, and maybe i would actually understand how it works if you explained it haha

@johnwizeman3894 7 жыл бұрын

Are you going to do a series on AK mags? That'd be cool

@elbenstrs9221 5 жыл бұрын

0:47 for -6.5 seconds I thought you said slav side magazines

@crunchysuperman 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you. So many guys say "bakelite" and think they're actually made of that.

@D8W2P4 7 жыл бұрын

Well it does look exactly like Bakelite and from what people who've handled em have said it even feels like Bakelite (the combination of texture, heat transfer, and way it gives is very much like Bakelite) so the error isn't unjustified.

@RustedCroaker 5 жыл бұрын

@@D8W2P4 Real old Bakelite has much darker color and has no fiberglass in it.

@caseyjoanz 4 жыл бұрын

Fiberglass! Now we’re talking the 60s and real polymers: vinyl, nylon, dacron, acetates. A whole new world and they haven’t even substituted any hydrogens with chlorides and fluorides, yet!

@user-wn7qf4pm3z 4 жыл бұрын

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@SiaarZH 6 жыл бұрын

Wow you had “Vom Uhrsprung der Selbstladepistole” a year ago and reviewed it only recently!

@michaelangelo9079 4 жыл бұрын

In Syria, we still and have always been using slab sides. I have never seen polymer mags except in soviet movies about Afghan campaigns. It’s funny to think about it just now. We are fighting amongst ourselves with weapons made in the 1960s and 50s.

@jamescoppola5545 7 жыл бұрын

Plum mags have the added capability to make one cream their pants.

@zakkyummms 6 жыл бұрын

Aluminum does oxidize similar to iron/steel. It's usually harder to notice and determine the depth of.

@aghouser4159 3 жыл бұрын

"You see comrade, you must make sure that your enemies are well fed with breakfast if you are to win a war".

@cthulhu6697 4 жыл бұрын

+Forgotten Weapons What are the dimensions ( height, width, and depth ) of 30 round AK47/AKM mags? I moved to a different state and, with so much stuff to pack on the first run, I brought my AKMs and forgot the box of mags ( and never bothered to measure them ). With me in the middle of middle age, I,m going to chest rigs ( lighter than plate carriers ) and I'm looking order stuff like 200 round SAW gunner pouches ( looking to fit 6 30s in those ) and other, various pouches I can MOLLE on. I noticed in the vid, and with my AK mags of various countries, that size varies. Thanks if you can answer

@jukkapaananen1202 7 жыл бұрын

What is the purpose of those indentations on the front of the polymer magazines? And the 7.62 one looks like it also has a steel insert about halfway down the magazine on the front.