I appreciate that!

@@slaverace1 and Merry Christmas Jeff.

It might be honest but it’s overly picky. I trust a ton of what slavens says but I think a lot of people are getting turned off by this bike and it is an awesome platform. We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it. We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

Thank you. Greg at www.factorysuspensionworks.com can make you happy for under $1000. Give him a call.

We ride nasty rocks and slick single track all day long here in Arizona. We took a guy out the other day from PNW who “cuts his teeth on single track for the last 20 years”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride where he turned around and went back. It’s been raining all week here and I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike today. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail” is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has $6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

Thank you.

Good idea to wait for a W.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

The suspension will break in and be a little more compliant. I rode a `23 300XC recently that had a lot of miles on the stock suspension. It felt like all KTMs do after the components break in. It retained the harshness and got wallowy on the whoops.

@chopperz127 We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

Thanks, will do!

Come on Bill, buy a new KTM and burn rubber in Belize. Life is toooooo short to be without a good scooter in the garage.

You're welcome.

Thanks Jeff! These things aren't cheap, This might help someone decide to check out their options.

Hello: Changing to correctly revalved suspension components will give a more compliant ride but the chassis is not compliant. I also love the motor but in it's current state of tune it is not friendly for hard enduro.

I'm not sure what part of the chassis or motor is non compliant for hard enduro? This bike is great in the gnar. Currently running a 14/50 final drive, gnarly/turbincore 2.1 combo. I installed the tusk fan because it has the lowest draw. You can run that fan with the s1 head light and the stator will support both. The bike also runs Cooler than my 17 did stock.

@@slaverace1 with all due respect sir it is not an all out Enduro bike that bike is on its way as an XEW stay tuned

We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

Brian: The 6500 kit is a quality product but the set-up is aimed at motocross. It can be re-valved and set up for off-road use, but where do you find a tuner that has done R&D for off-road on 6500s and has also sorted them for the new chassis? I don't think that person is out there yet. I prefer the MX Tech Raven cartridge inserts that come with springs and are tuned for your intended use. They also have more advanced technology, a better anti-bottoming system, better customer support and are made in the U.S.A. 6500s are $1420 with springs, Ravens are $1500 with springs and custom tuning.

You ride mostly moto but you bought a Cross Country model? Please explain.

@@chadrides914 XC's are very much jack of all trades, so many ride moto with them, then also ride the trials. That is most likely what he is doing with it.

Thank you.

This has all been cleared up from other KZfaqrs. Top end reliability is the same as all other 2 strokes for the last 40 years.

Morgan at Highland Cycle had that same concern with the tank. He tested and confirmed…the left side will suck dry and the right will contain a very minimal amount of fuel. It’s initially odd though, I agree.

Hello: The piston is the same part number as the TPi models, so I don't see an issue there. One guy posted an ugly picture of an exploded top end. He hasn't given any details so I wonder if it inhaled dirt, if he forgot to premix the fuel, if he was revving it hard in 6th gear or one of many other operator caused issues. I don't see a problem but I'm sure the internet will make a mountain out of a mole hill. Most guys are reporting the fuel tank drains completely but a few have posted the opposite. I don't buy into most internet garbage. Prefer to spend my time riding. You're welcome.

My 2023 300XCW currently has Slavens Mule Lucky Blackjacks and the 2023 300XC has Slavens Mule Raven Blackjacks. I have a suspension video in the queue. Stay tuned.

Interesting.......the only change will be the colour, stop kidding yourself.

Run it at 60:1. When you add excess oil you reduce fuel and end up with a leaner burn. The engineers did the testing, don't believe random crap on the internet that contradicts the professionals with 0 supporting data.

Hello: Good question. I don't anticipate any problems but the stator is a little wimpy. Summer temps have come and gone so the fan hasn't kicked on much.

Unfortunately my crystal ball is on the fritz again. My guess is the `24 W will have a stiffer frame and the new engine without oil injection.

Yes, they sell a 250 version. Normally I would go for a 300...and I own three, but I have to tell you the TBI 250 is an animal and seems to be more playful than the 300.

yep. good carpenter never blames his tools

Yes. The TBi is a monster.

What? I haven't blown up anything.

@@slaverace1 Lol, praising it funny guy 😂🤙

Might be a few months for flywheel and mapping options. KTM recommends Motorex slavensracing.com/shop/cross-power-2t-by-motorex/ but I use Amsoil Saber slavensracing.com/shop/saber-2-stroke-premix-amsoil/ at 100:1.

Tony: I have not experienced that.

slavensracing.com/shop/led-projector-headlight-dot-for-ktm-by-sicass-racing/

The FN3 fan kit fits with out modification. slavensracing.com/shop/radiator-fan-kit-for-ktm-husaberg-husqvarna-by-trail-tech/

@Slavens Racing Awsome, thanks for the help!

SXS! slavensracing.com/shop/burly-handguards-by-sxs/

Hello: The suspension will become a little more compliant with time. As to clickers and PSI, start with the comfort settings and back off the fork pressure.

@@slaverace1 I will relay your advice as soon as his bike shows up... was supposed to be October, but no sign of it yet!! Thanks again!!

That $1000 is usually the best money you will ever spend. With a good tuner it turns your bike into a magic carpet. How do you design and manufacture a suspension that is awesome for 500,000 different riders of all sizes ,weights and skill levels? You could also just buy a Kawasaki like Patrick Barry. Evidently the KX250X is fantastic right of the showroom floor.

Trail Tech. slavensracing.com/shop/radiator-fan-kit-for-ktm-husaberg-husqvarna-by-trail-tech/

@@slaverace1 thanks, the universal fit?

@@Jodab8 No. The one listed in the fitment chart.

We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

@@josephflaherty3918you reply is my reply to the tee. I agree with you 100%

Hello: The TT fan kit slavensracing.com/shop/radiator-fan-kit-for-ktm-husaberg-husqvarna-by-trail-tech/ connects to the battery. We have plenty of fan kits and skid plates in stock for your `23. slavensracing.com/product-category/guards-2/skidplate/

@@slaverace1thx Jeff. I called your shop and your guys got me hooked up with everything I needed. Great customer service.

@@slaverace1 any problems with the fan draining the battery? I read somewhere people were unsure if the stator was powerful enough on these. I also have a voyager pro that I’d like to hook up but don’t wanna run outta juice in the middle of the woods.

Good question. I can't find any dealer that can tell me the wattage output on a 23 XC for a Voyager Pro and headline.

Headlight

I’ve had my brake pedal pivot bolt out several times. Sounds like yours needs a little persuasion. You need to get more aggressive with it and it should pop loose.

Lyndon: At this time there are no aftermarket tanks available. I'm sure they are busy finding a solution to the pump location.

@@slaverace1 I ordered one for my 23 xc from IMS a couple of weeks ago it's supposed to ship mid DEC. 2.8gal with a low pickup they said.

Hello: Congrats on the new scooter. It will do what you want except the moto. The 300XC is a better choice but only if you are willing to spend some $$$$ on the suspension and add a bunch of goodies. If dealers let guys test ride dirt bikes they would have a bunch of looped out/damaged bikes and hurt customers. Yes, they are expensive but what isn't and it is still cheap fun and keeps your head on straight, aka throttle therapy.

@Slavens Racing can the xcw ride moto with a few suspension mods? When I say moto I mean just going to the track once or twice in the summer. Not gonna be sending it over 100ft jumps just want to be able to ride out there for fun. Just Seems like the xc is is lacking in every way for a woods bike and it even would need suspension work and the w comes with everything right out of the box. Thanks for your videos great job

We ride rocks and slick single track all day long here in Arizona. It’s been raining all week. Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

@@josephflaherty3918 hell ya good to here. The only thing I could possibly compare it to is my plush xcw or insanely stiff 09 250sxf which was brutal in the woods.

Kyle: I've been doing short 20-30 mile test rides and haven't done a big loop to test the mileage.

@@slaverace1 oh okay, I’d be curious if 50-60 miles can be achieved. Thanks for the reply

Thank you. I have not because they are made from aluminum which is known to fail when rock bashing.

@@slaverace1 Oh I didn't know that thanks for the reply.

@rusty6314 If you are talking about the Fastway Ext models, the Air is aluminum and the Evo is steel. I bought the steel ones due to needing extra support after Achilles rupture.

@@kevinearls7496 Thanks for the info Kevin ouchy on that achilles!

Yes!

Yes. It's a VE33S gummy and it works very well. slavensracing.com/shop/volcanduro-ve-33s-rear-enduro-tire-by-irc/

I’ve been told the W will be TBI.

@@slaverace1 people are saying it won't since the top end has the bungs for tpi.

Hello: The factory guys actually drilled a big hole in the frame gusset, not the bolt-on motor mounts.

@@slaverace1 Oh wow now that's gangster. No going back there. Thanks!!

I'm also in California and ride similar type trails....lots of challenging/technical riding. I'll be keeping my 2019 250XC. Love the bike (especially with the Lucky fork cartridges, and other Slavens Mule parts on it). Also, it will be grandfathered into the "green sticker" program here in CA in a few years. Silly California over regulation, but have to deal with it.

Hello Robert: Since your living in the Republic of California, a 2021 300XCW is a nice bike. The relocation kit slavensracing.com/shop/slavens-mule-get-race-kit-upgrade-for-ktm-hqv-250-300tpi/ is good but you'll get a bigger bang for the buck with a Coober ECU slavensracing.com/shop/ez-ecu-for-ktm-hqv-gas-gas-300-tpi-by-coober/ or we can re-flash the O.E.M. ECU.

There are ways around these new regulations. There are services now that will help you register your bike out of state. You will have to make it “street legal” to get plated out of state. Then you will be able to ride in CA.

@@JuanM759 I have a 23 KTM. Have a title and registration (red sticker) until '24. Most new 22 and 23 bikes are being sold and registered because DMV has no idea what's going on.

I think my reply was removed. Just do some research it’s not hard to find the info. In 2024 you won’t be re-registered in CA per the new law. So you’ll have until then to get an out of state plate for your bike.

Sorry, I have not ridden a KX450.

The O.E.M. clamps are high quality billet clamps. I changed because I need a more forward bar position.

Amsoil Saber at 80:1.

Hello Sounds like you are comparing it to a bike setup/resprung for your weight, not comparing it to a stock ‘22 XC. Not comparing apples to apples.

Exactly right. Not apples to apples at all. I was comparing a stock 23 250xc to my own set up bike. I’m 185 lbs.

@@slaverace1 but isn't that what you are doing comparing to a W mule?

Hello: My current set-up is temporary. It's Xtrig PHDS with a riser spacer. I'll be soon changing to the XC Gear Mako 360SX slavensracing.com/shop/mako-360sx-handlebar-mount-for-ktm-husqvarna-gasgas-by-xc-gear/ . I'll post a video soon.

@@slaverace1 Thank you Jeff, this is good info! I was interested in the exact same thing. Much appreciated.

@@slaverace1 THANK YOU

@@slaverace1 Just Ordered...

It's an all new motor and transmission that will likely be in the 2024 XCW.

There's always a bright side if you look for it.

Most guys are reporting about 60 miles on the stock tank.

Not sure I understand your question. They are already programmed from the factory but we will have ECU and reflash options in a few months.

Yes. revalve the suspension, install some guards and personal items and go rip!

Yes. The `24 TE should be a good choice. Sorry, I haven't heard much yet about the enduro models.

We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZfaq has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

@@josephflaherty3918 thanks for this insight. Can’t believe you can rock 120psi on those aer forks and have decent hold up. Isn’t there a minimum PSI they recommend staying above?

@@omarjensen4629 I’m running 126. I’m 175lbs dry and still 1.5 inches from the bottom. Dealer just said don’t run under 120. If you run them at 141psi like ktm says they are pretty stiff. AEO is one of the legit dealers and knows what’s up. Our KTM suspension Tuner out here said the same thing to run them in the mid 120’s.