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Slavoj Zizek - Frankfurt School & Cultural Marxism

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@iwouldprefernotto49
@iwouldprefernotto49 11 ай бұрын
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@tevitamotulalo3909
@tevitamotulalo3909 2 жыл бұрын
A few more sniffs and this is an award winning lecture
@1982violinist
@1982violinist Жыл бұрын
😁😁😁👍👍👍 snifs is the only thing that this poor creature is good at 😉
@softycutie7785
@softycutie7785 4 жыл бұрын
Ends with "and so on and so on"
@kojak8403
@kojak8403 4 жыл бұрын
It always does
@chaiyamahaiya2830
@chaiyamahaiya2830 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a clear sign of a people who spout stupefying verbiage bullshit most of the time.
@relaxingsounds1386
@relaxingsounds1386 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaiyamahaiya2830 yep
@raharu000
@raharu000 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaiyamahaiya2830 No, not at all. He made his point very clear. He was using "so on and so on" at the end as a placeholder for all movements associated with progressivism, because the audience knew that was the topic, it was unnecessary for him to list them all.
@Browikx
@Browikx 2 жыл бұрын
bro fascist like you are so fucking dumb. No wonder why you love hitler
@azarael77
@azarael77 4 жыл бұрын
Actually this sounds as if there ist a ", but..." missing.
@thelaizardman
@thelaizardman 3 жыл бұрын
dude, what the hell is this comment section wtf this probably was the least controvert speak i saw of him in youtube and people are going insane
@Meladjusted
@Meladjusted 2 жыл бұрын
People have trouble with nuance.
@jorgelopez-pr6dr
@jorgelopez-pr6dr 2 жыл бұрын
"Though this be madness, yet there is method in it" - Hamlet.
@nikolademitri731
@nikolademitri731 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is fine, as long as we’re not confusing “traditional family values” for the values of the modern, nuclear family, and as long as we’re not confusing lgbtq rights as some kind of “anti traditional family values” forces. Granted, Zizek isn’t doing any of this, he’s responding to a question, and pointing out flaws in a lot of right wing and/or “western” and/or “liberal” (etc) conceptions and narratives about the Frankfurt School, Communism, “Cultural Marxism”, and so on, and so on. I’m just pointing it out as a side note, as no doubt people take these points and facts, and then sometimes run into some weird, often reactionary directions with them (eg, lgbtq rights being anti-family, and/or the modern/nuclear family being an accurate reflection of healthy traditional family values).
@GG.Sanchoo
@GG.Sanchoo 10 ай бұрын
I agree with you that traditional family values are not modern, nuclear family values. But how is pushing for LGBT rights not against traditional values? I’m a Catholic integralist but I’d also consider myself a Marxist, I follow Catholic liberation theology which heavily emphasizes Marxism and anti colonialism
@eduardhermesanschau9590
@eduardhermesanschau9590 7 ай бұрын
​@@GG.Sanchoocatholic and marxist? What a retard.
@DavidTitus_
@DavidTitus_ 4 күн бұрын
wanting to fk men in the ass with the blessing of the church is an anti traditional family value ass fkn does not lead to a family
@spicybbqtasty3960
@spicybbqtasty3960 2 жыл бұрын
The donald duck of philosophy.
@ToxicTurtleIsMad
@ToxicTurtleIsMad 2 жыл бұрын
But donald duck is a capitalist
@spicybbqtasty3960
@spicybbqtasty3960 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToxicTurtleIsMad Donald duck is a sailor
@equalizerfrank1469
@equalizerfrank1469 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@aoe2023
@aoe2023 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Factuel-ry7zi
@Factuel-ry7zi 6 ай бұрын
I would say daffy
@4455matthew
@4455matthew 5 жыл бұрын
Can we get the rest of this talk anywhere? I liked where this was going, is he saying that he sympathized with the eastern/&conservative critique of the elvis phenomena? And how was he linking that to lgbt?
@iwouldprefernotto49
@iwouldprefernotto49 5 жыл бұрын
It’s in the description.
@Jonasbcassel
@Jonasbcassel 11 ай бұрын
Did you remove it?
@nak807
@nak807 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't we hear the question?
@mangaman6833
@mangaman6833 4 жыл бұрын
To those who deny the existence of cultural marxism, stop rolling your eyes and saying “the world has gone insane” when SJWs introduce a new freak-show and give us an explanation.
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 4 жыл бұрын
What is called "cultural marxism" is liberalism. But neoliberalism have taken such a hold on everything, so liberals fight other liberals about defitionens, "not real capitalism" vs "not real socialism". Read about Marxism-Leninism and see that it has nothing to do with this liberal crap which is defined as "cultural marxism".
@mattp1235
@mattp1235 4 жыл бұрын
@@The80sWolf_ you're right that traditional marxism has nothing to do with cultural marxism. cultural marxism is all about manifesting the revolution through culture and institutions at the hands of the intellectuals in opposed to the proletariat.
@mangaman6833
@mangaman6833 3 жыл бұрын
@@The80sWolf_ cultural marxism was not propounded by Marx. It's an extension of Marxism made by Marx's followers.
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@mangaman6833 But if they are Marx followers, wouldn't they be actual communists, and not "cultural-marxists" with sjw shit?
@mangaman6833
@mangaman6833 3 жыл бұрын
@@The80sWolf_ actual communist is a mass murdering cult. They know people love their family, country, race and heritage. Cultural marxists want to break down all this and relegate the people to animals. This is the only way they will accept communism.
@yerusalem4832
@yerusalem4832 5 жыл бұрын
Cultural marxism is a good description of a certain leftist tendency. Combining psychoanalysis and marxism, left wing identity politics, deconstructing social values, ect. What are we supposed to call it? I think cultural marxism is an accurate description of most post 1960s leftists in the west.
@Kumaryoku
@Kumaryoku 5 жыл бұрын
Can you name a prominent thinker to combine psychoanalysis with marxism? I am genuinely curious, because they seem very much incompatible to me.
@yerusalem4832
@yerusalem4832 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kumaryoku eric fromm has an essay called "Marxism, Psychoanalysis and Reality" where he talks about how dialectical materialism and psychoanalysis are the only scientific approaches to sociology and psychology, respectively. Here is the opening paragraph: "During the last 35 years, I have written many works, in which - under different aspects - I tried to explain that there are not only points where Marxism and psychoanalysis overlap but that there is also an intrinsic interdependency between the two. This means, I do not only believe that a synthesis is possible but also an existential necessity." I thought it was pretty well known that psychoanalysis and Marxism are linked. They genuinely have similar starting points, especially a belief in the elasticity of human psychology and sociology (now disproven by empirical science). Freudo-Marxism is the whole tendency of the New Left, along with abandoning revolutionary activity in favor of gradually influencing society thru what amounts to infiltration and subversion (Fabian Socialists admit this).
@Kumaryoku
@Kumaryoku 5 жыл бұрын
@@yerusalem4832 Huh, that was a big knowledge gap for me, thanks for the info and quick reply. I've mainly been exposed to phenomenological and existential psychoanalysis, which I have (in accordance with Zizek in this clip) associated as the representant of psychoanalysis, which is of course incorrect. Do you mean by Marxism being empirically disproven that it has been shown that human psyche and its development is less dependent on societal influences than postulated?
@yerusalem4832
@yerusalem4832 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kumaryoku well, i think leftists would have to get rid of their idea of the human mind as a blank slate, which Marx seemed to take for granted. By disproven, i mean the debate over "nature vs nurture" does not skew to nurture nearly as much as most leftists would like to believe. Steve Pinker has talked about this in his Blank Slate book, how the social sciences have underestimated "evolutionary psychology." So maybe leftism itself isnt scientifically disproven but i dont see many of them discarding the outdated blank slate theory.
@ryancurnow5806
@ryancurnow5806 5 жыл бұрын
@@yerusalem4832 Leftists don't believe in blank slate theory. Or, if they do, they're kidding themselves. But it doesn't make a difference. Much of evolutionary psychology IS still subject to nurture, and many experts in the field dispute this very strongly. You'll find some saying that nature is the most predominent and others saying nurture. But to be quite honest, it doesn't make a difference. Morally speaking, we leftists want a society where we can help people live well and do the work they want regardless of their IQ or whatever. And honestly, unless you're a full blown nazi who wants to euthanize disabled people or something, I think you'd have trouble disagreeing with that.
@pedroenrique9613
@pedroenrique9613 3 жыл бұрын
Poor argumentation by Zizek. He mananged to avoid the whole question by clenching on family values. We didn't get to hear the question. What is this crap content? But the whole damn clip.
@Mr.Vitality
@Mr.Vitality Жыл бұрын
I think musicians had a bigger impact on society than philosophers. Wagner's operas inspired H*tler to create National Socialism, though Wagner was much more liberal than H*tler.
@perobusmaximus
@perobusmaximus 9 ай бұрын
He defended adorno and horkeimer, not frankfurt. Even less cultural marxism.
@luke-alex
@luke-alex 5 ай бұрын
His point, it seems, which many others have already made, is that 'cultural marxism' is a myth-such a thing was never promoted by the Frankfurt School
@Mr.X__777
@Mr.X__777 4 жыл бұрын
Zizek wants to be intellectually honest but not to his detriment. The best thinkers of today are found on the fringe and/or are working anonymously.
@Bigplatts
@Bigplatts 4 жыл бұрын
What good fringe thinkers or anonymous texts would you recommend?
@Mr.X__777
@Mr.X__777 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Bigplatts Start with Pierre L. van den Berghe and Kevin MacDonald.
@acc314
@acc314 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.X__777 lol, why the Fuck did you recommend a white supremacist. Jeez at least go for the relevant ones like Moldbug
@BioChemistryWizard
@BioChemistryWizard Жыл бұрын
A consequentialist could say the Nazis were right about Cultural Marxism and the Frankfurt school based on the results of it. I mean political correctness was THEIR idea and Marcuse etc go on to defend it. Nazis could be wrong about the Frankfurt school's intentions but not its consequences.
@PoetOfNoise
@PoetOfNoise Жыл бұрын
I don't know who told you that political correctness was an idea by the Frankfurt school and the fact that you seem to believe that (as well as apparently you think Marcuse is still alive?) makes me wonder if you have read a single text by any Frankfurt school theorist.
@du42bz
@du42bz 11 ай бұрын
​@@PoetOfNoiseThey only have read Tweets about Cultural Marxism by Pseudo-Intellectuals like Shen Babipo the other big philosopher whose name i forgot.
@GG.Sanchoo
@GG.Sanchoo 10 ай бұрын
@@PoetOfNoiseweren’t early Frankfurt school intellectuals like Marcuse and Horkheimer opposed to Jazz and homosexuality anyway? So I don’t get how PC culture came from them directly, but I could be wrong I’m not sure
@PoetOfNoise
@PoetOfNoise 10 ай бұрын
​@@GG.Sanchoo Adorno infamously wrote a hitpiece against Jazz - his biographer Detlev Claussen connects this to the fact that he was an exiled neo-classical composer who tried to fend off the pressure to economically survive by composing more popular stuff and that made him project his fears of humiliation onto Jazz. Homosexuality is a more complicated topic. They viewed the militarized, masculine group-spirit typical for fascism or fraternities as fueled by a certain homosexual libido, but that doesn't directly translate into a rejection of actual homosexual relationships. But nothing, by all means, supports the idea that PC-culture has anything to do with their ideas. Much to the contrary, in fact. They wrote a lot of stuff that can be viewed as a critique of PC avant la lettre, but not from the usual right-wing angle, of course.
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 4 жыл бұрын
Whats up with the nazis in the comments?
@justinkerrigan5863
@justinkerrigan5863 3 жыл бұрын
You’re epitomizing exactly what the Frankfurt school wanted... to label and call anyone with any opposing viewpoints and seeing through the obscured fraud ness of Marxist ideology to respond and degrade their argument by calling them “Nazis.” Enjoy the slaughterhouse sheep.
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinkerrigan5863 I oppose both nazis and the idpol leftist. That makes me a sheep? Hahahaha! What a fkn clown!
@acc314
@acc314 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinkerrigan5863 Muh Frankfurt school. Bitch i only follow Marxist line of thought.
@acc314
@acc314 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because of cultural Marxism in the title, and they genuinely believe that there are cultural marxists in the US government trying to destroy western society. Nazis are retarded
@Brother-Martell
@Brother-Martell 3 жыл бұрын
@@acc314 pretty much haha
@DonTerhune1200cc
@DonTerhune1200cc Жыл бұрын
Mr Pro Marxist sniffel dribble completely omitted the fact that during ww2 German students in Berlin burned Marxists books that validated & promoted Queerizm. Wish I was at his lecture to yell that for him & all Seton Hall students to hear.
@PoetOfNoise
@PoetOfNoise Жыл бұрын
What point exactly do you mean that anecdote to serve...?
@DonTerhune1200cc
@DonTerhune1200cc Жыл бұрын
@@PoetOfNoise 0% anecdote/ 100% fact. Next time B4U post an empty response, try looking up what you're responding to. "LGBTQ Institute in Germany Was Burned Down by Nazis" 👈 CCP that & look it up.
@ThisNinjaSays_
@ThisNinjaSays_ Жыл бұрын
Mr Pro Marxist sniffel dribble will be remembered long after your useless existence has ceased 😉. The man has tics get over it normie.
@dieu_et_maitre
@dieu_et_maitre Жыл бұрын
sad that you weren't there to show everyone what a fool you are
@mangaman6833
@mangaman6833 4 жыл бұрын
He is spitting lies. Literally.
@noumena9463
@noumena9463 4 жыл бұрын
@@moreno4821 what about nazbol here?
@jerryholbrook13
@jerryholbrook13 4 жыл бұрын
He's lying his ass off
@kojak8403
@kojak8403 4 жыл бұрын
I can't decide if he's just lying to the students he's recruting or also to himself... Either way he's very convincing in his Marxist standup act.
@sonofsanto
@sonofsanto 2 жыл бұрын
always has been
@shway1
@shway1 Жыл бұрын
he's not
@oioi9372
@oioi9372 2 жыл бұрын
Zizek always tries to turn things upside down, with his tautological balderdash and always carries a baggage of irrelevant references, so it can appear as he has something important to say. In reality, he is just participating in creative talk that only fragmentary resembles philosophical reasoning, and while occassionaly making some valid points, they are oftenly bunch of trivialities. Zizek is a meme precisely for his character, which is a comical and neurotical pseudo-genius npc that poses as a philosopher
@matthewbean395
@matthewbean395 Жыл бұрын
Ironically this post gives the appearance of deriding Zizek for having nothing important to say, while at the same time saying nothing of any importance. Zero examples given to support your claim that Zizek gives zero examples to support his claims. Lots of "creative talk that only fragmentary resembles philosophical reasoning" used to accuse Zizek of creative talk that only fragmentarily resembles philosophical reasoning. Trivialities leveled against Zizek for speaking trivially. Use your brain before using your words, my friend.
@soundsofsilenceandsleeping
@soundsofsilenceandsleeping Жыл бұрын
I think Slavoj would appreciate this critique of him
@PoetOfNoise
@PoetOfNoise Жыл бұрын
Since you apparently see right through him, I'm sure you won't have a problem pointing out the trivialities, tautologies and pseudo-philosophemes in his cross-interpretation of Lacan and German idealism, right?
@oioi9372
@oioi9372 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbean395 So, you basically admit that it is trivial to say that Zizek is trivial? I couldn't agree more! It is well known fact that Zizek is a clown. Thanks for proving my point you fckn imbecile!🤣
@YM-cw8so
@YM-cw8so Жыл бұрын
Read at least one of his books before typing this out 😂
@Studiosmediamilk
@Studiosmediamilk 2 жыл бұрын
EC comics
@stephanmaier5634
@stephanmaier5634 5 жыл бұрын
I hope that intelectuality is not dinosaur.
@1982violinist
@1982violinist Жыл бұрын
A sniveling backwards, Stalin-loving jert
@tear728
@tear728 4 жыл бұрын
Sophistry
@inco9943
@inco9943 4 жыл бұрын
read his books then
@spin6668
@spin6668 4 жыл бұрын
How so.
@absitinvidia3948
@absitinvidia3948 Жыл бұрын
Its so stupid its funy...
@bradhamilton4290
@bradhamilton4290 Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with daffy duck? Coke proplem
@kojak8403
@kojak8403 4 жыл бұрын
The term "cultural Marxism" is strictly Marxist. It was first presented by Trent Schroyer in 1973. He was a Marxist scholar from the core Marxist academic organization, the New School in NY. "The Critique of Domination: The Origins and Development of Critical Theory", 1973, ISBN 9780807606841. The term is very imprecise though. The correct one should be: "anticultural Marxism".
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's just this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism but with another name. Created to use as a slander and a great way to define enemies.
@kojak8403
@kojak8403 4 жыл бұрын
@@The80sWolf_ - no it is not this. You are wrong. On the contrary - what you are doing here is slander. Trying to tie Marxism with discredited Nazis as their invention, as a form of stygma. Nazis were socialists, another straing of far left anti-civilization racist movement. Targeting culture for destruction was invented and declared much earlier - by Karl Marx in 1844 and by Rousseau as an even earlier precursor. The Frankfurt School developed this idea to the modern mutation as neomarxism and it is obviously apparent, especially nowadays.
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