Slicer vs Minsc & Boo vs Shorikai vs Thrasios/Vial Smasher

Slicer vs Minsc & Boo vs Shorikai vs Thrasios/Vial Smasher | CEDH Gameplay

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@Merc1987 Жыл бұрын

Especially in a slicer game, would love to see the commander damage everyone is sat on

@Catguyrussell Жыл бұрын

Yes please

@Merc1987 8 ай бұрын

So to answer my own question: Both Ashani and Alex were on 12 commander damage, Where Cal was on twenty.

@stats493 Жыл бұрын

Goaded slicer can't attack planeswalkers (Minsc and Boo)

@kenlikescarbs Жыл бұрын

RIP to Ryan needing to say "He gains control of Slicer" six hundred times

@Ragnarok633 Жыл бұрын

Up there with any game involving Norin the Wary. Was playing some casual and the Norin player got Norin and Confusion in the Ranks out and let me tell you that game was a test in endurance in figuring out what happened when ever anyone did ANYTHING.

@eloquentsilence6572 29 күн бұрын

@@Ragnarok633such a lovely and chaotic psuedo combo. Playing Norin is a great way to practice remembering the billion triggers he causes lmao

@DarkEinherjar Жыл бұрын

Oh, yeah... goaded creatures can only attack planeswalkers if they can't fulfill the "attack a player other than you if able" requirement, so Slicer shouldn't have been able to attack Minsc and Boo outside Drake's turn.

@rajburtonpatel6702 Жыл бұрын

What a long way edh has come. Imagine a player from 2006 coming into this game and seeing a planeswalker, a vehicle, two creatures at once, and a freakin TRANSFORMER in the command zone.

@vincentvallee9432 15 күн бұрын

its CEDH

@AidanWR Жыл бұрын

It's games like these that I'd like to see a commander damage counter. At least for the videos where commanders are smashing into other people

@BearClaymore Жыл бұрын

It si not always needed, but in this case I would've loved to see a commander damage tracker. I lost track of how much commander damage Slicer dealt. It wasn't relevant at the end, but wouldn't mind having that piece of info on screen.

@CosmicGiggalo Жыл бұрын

I love that Cal's copy of Slicer is Dan-Dan. XD

@blueberryblues5644 Жыл бұрын

I think dropping a tangle wire before slicer was a sad play. those turns of tapping essentially your opponents entire boards could have been spent killing them as well

@ChrisDavis-tt1dj Жыл бұрын

Agree. I won a game last week that way. I got two full turn cycles with Tangle Wire out before Slicer was removed.

@seanmurphy3430 Жыл бұрын

Okay, but Minsc and Boo has a second ability, though. It lets you draw cards and kill things; it's really good.

@waynecalvert2148 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering why he didn't go infinite treasures and sac boo to draw 10 and cast them all before torpor orb came down. Unless I missed something.

@darkfiire1647 Жыл бұрын

@@waynecalvert2148 yeah he had semur dockside loop right?, Unless there was somehow less than 5 dockside targets

@chrisjohnson8703 Жыл бұрын

@@waynecalvert2148 Blind obedience makes the treasure enter tapped and the turn he cast he's one mana short of recasting.

@Zackeus1992 Жыл бұрын

@Chris Johnson but he had the combo assembled before the blind obedience

@seanmurphy3430 Жыл бұрын

@@Zackeus1992 Didn't have enough mana to fire it off. (Needed 4 minimum - 2 for Sabertooth and 2 to recast Dockside.)

@nanceskiinanceskii4674 Жыл бұрын

My favorite part of the game is where slicer said "it's slicing time" and sliced all over the table

@TheDige Жыл бұрын

"In true fashion, it crippled opponents enough to let someone else steal a victory." Classic (and correct) commentary!

@switchback27 Жыл бұрын

Judging by the comments, some people have never heard of the concept of regeneration in MtG. Man I feel old.

@jasons9895 Жыл бұрын

Love that your doing these cedh decks you don’t always see

@kristopherwatts9466 Жыл бұрын

Hey!! Boo doesn't have rabies.. he just followed Minsc's lead and took levels in Barbarian. GO FOR THE EYES BOO, GO FOR THE EYES. WRRRRAAHHYH

@thelastrebel13 Жыл бұрын

And possibly rabies 😂 im stealing this quote

@Jebrickothy Жыл бұрын

I love y'all, I literally just started building this deck yesterday and have been looking around for advice. Thank you!

@evanperkins3467 Жыл бұрын

Turn 1 you always cast slicer !!!!! Slicer also can’t attack planeswalkers when it’s goaded…

@Red_Mag3 Жыл бұрын

No ide why a Slicer deck would wait 4 turns, they should be dead by then. Too cautious

@alexandermalarkey3773 Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I said. Slicer needs to drop on t1. It is not a normal stax deck. You stax after slicer hits not before.

@MTG_Ronin Жыл бұрын

Not sure what Cal was doing that game.

@elijahmyers4331 Жыл бұрын

FINALLY! I've been playing cEdh slicer since a month after he came out. I've been waiting patiently for this episode and HERE IT IS

@RoyalScions 9 ай бұрын

Do you have a deck list for it?

@alexandermalarkey3773 Жыл бұрын

Generally speaking you want to drop slocer on t1 not t3. The deck is very fast but doesnt do the midgame very well

@tomfossell473 8 ай бұрын

Haven't watched in about a year, I like the redesign and new music!

@semicolon_cancer1243 Жыл бұрын

Variety!! Woo!! You love to see it.

@Red_Mag3 Жыл бұрын

*Sees Slicer game, hits play*

@P3rvenc Жыл бұрын

A goaded creature has to attack a player (not a planeswalker or battle) other than you if it can

@RobinRajamoosh Жыл бұрын

Take a drink everytime Ryan says Slicer.

@Kascep Жыл бұрын

Why didnt cal sacrifice the 7/7 boo in the beggining? Once the fading counters hit 2 I would assume that you would get more value just drawing 7 cards since there was a high likelyhood that a haste creature would come out and kill monsc

@gutsbadguy50 Жыл бұрын

Cal was misplaying the entire game, just wasn't his day.

@lucasoyarzun9902 Жыл бұрын

That and he always tapped his boo, at least do some damage attacking!

@vvGoose Жыл бұрын

i love how you tried not to laugh when you said the rabies part about boo!

@Floor Жыл бұрын

6:00 Slicer decks work much better when players actually know how goad works.

@matthewmartin9983 Жыл бұрын

My favorite part of the game was Cal using a dandan as slicer

@LightPink Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting months to see a slicer deck!

@TripsAhoy Жыл бұрын

Nice game. Def wonder how someone didn't die to commander damage!

@DayOfCasual Жыл бұрын

9:33 very tapped indeed

@justinveron698 Жыл бұрын

It's nice to see Slicer in a PWP video.

@JoseCabrera-up5op Жыл бұрын

gotta sac the hamster more!!!! FUN GAME

@bryantan4228 Жыл бұрын

Can someone explain what was up with Cal? I didn’t see anything blocking the infinite Sabertooth Dockside combo until 8:21 Torpor Orb, and I don’t see why he didn’t sacrifice the 7/7 Boo to draw which is surely enough.

@seanmurphy3430 Жыл бұрын

I think he didn't go for the combo because he was playing around open blue mana; I have no idea why he didn't sac Boo.

@bryantan4228 Жыл бұрын

@@seanmurphy3430 True, 7:23 Ashani had 2 open blue mana. That said you can't just play around that forever. IMO the failure to sac Boo was super omega greed. Probably was gonna keep ticking up to 20 at that rate.

@1ntegrator Жыл бұрын

He didn’t have enough mana to start the loop the turn Temur sabertooth came down and afterwards blind obedience stops him.

@seanmurphy3430 Жыл бұрын

@@1ntegrator Oh, I hadn't thought about Blind Obedience shutting down Dockside loops. Okay, now it makes sense.

@sorinmarkov11 Жыл бұрын

love the amount of combat damage in this game (thats why I'm also a hugt najeela fan)

@g4greed502 Жыл бұрын

I haven't played cedh in a little while, but shouldn't chalice of the void been destroyed by that culling ritual?

@stevierickmoyersr.8681 Жыл бұрын

I loved this game. Let's see an all Transformers as commanders CEDH game. I think they are powerful yet funky, but funky brings the best gameplay.

@falconlord7811 Жыл бұрын

Minsc and boo are supremely underrated

@adams333 Жыл бұрын

Is there a rule in Cedh that prevent huge hamsters to swing each turns?

@tavinsfilmproduction9786 Жыл бұрын

One of these days I’m gonna get on one of these games with my selvala explorer returned!!!!

@kitsovereign4127 Жыл бұрын

It might be nice to also show the backside of DFC commanders in the intro so we get a chance to read it, especially ones a little less common like Slicer. (Also it's a little strange looking to watch it spin in with a regular Magic back!)

@jamescamaratta93 Жыл бұрын

Love Ashani's lands, great taste. How did chalice of the void live thought culling ritual?

@PlayingWithPowerMTG Жыл бұрын

It was regenerated through welding jar

@xelendar Жыл бұрын

I wish the lists were made in Moxfield

@Icecolten1 Жыл бұрын

Did someone gain control of Slicer? I don't think I heard you say that during this game.

@kalbz2991 Жыл бұрын

nice slicer❤

@apachee7511 Жыл бұрын

Didn't Cal have infinite treasures with Dockside and Temur Sabertooth ?

@slymcfly123 Жыл бұрын

He had 3 treasures at the time I believe. So returning it to his hand and recasting it wasn't possible. I might be wrong but I wondered why he didn't go infinite at the time .

@switchback27 Жыл бұрын

He had 3 so he couldn't go off, and then the next turn cycle Drake dropped Torpor Orb.

@TheGrifcannon22 Жыл бұрын

Also Blind Obedience came down immediately after.

@Kascep Жыл бұрын

He had untapped lands though...

@slymcfly123 Жыл бұрын

@@Kascep re-watch it. He doesn't. Blind Obedience hits right after.

@derekbryant5195 Жыл бұрын

I feel like that was Cal's game to lose and he fumbled the bag. It was a great game, but I feel like there should have been more interaction with the Timetwister. Excellent job as always yall

@DrakeSasser Жыл бұрын

Aw MAAAAAN 🦊

@WhiteWizard42 Жыл бұрын

I'm sad that 10:57 didn't flash Appetite for Brains on screen.

@connorl0204 Жыл бұрын

12:33 does the legend rule not cause a player to forcibly sacrifice one of the creatures? Therefore, since when an opponent gains control of slicer and it gains “cannot be sacrificed” the PhImage would have been the only option to sac?

@fnx.M Жыл бұрын

The legend rule doesn't make someone sacrifice: *704.5j If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are controlled by the same player, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.”*

@Justcallmeserr 11 ай бұрын

Why does Tangled Wire resolve before Slicer’s upkeep ability?

@PlayingWithPowerMTG 11 ай бұрын

They are both upkeep triggers that trigger at the same time. Since they do, you can stack them to resolve however you want.

@dasfabelwesen Жыл бұрын

Is cal's minsk broken? I thought you can draw cards or was there notion thief fear?

@entertainmentinc9735 Жыл бұрын

I think he’s just a bad player, that’s why.

@johnphilbrick Жыл бұрын

Is there a reason dockside is the only card that has a sound effect (which only happens the first time it comes out)?

@fosterdawson7339 Жыл бұрын

They’re sponsored by a company who makes custom treasure tokens

@matthewjohnson3656 Жыл бұрын

I think it’s the treasures that have the sound effect

@CrOeDdE Жыл бұрын

why did you use the 5 mana alchemy minds?

@Arthur-ux9ez Жыл бұрын

Would have given the most valuable card to blind obediance, stoping comboes and enabling one was relevant enough

@emarmy00 Жыл бұрын

❤❤❤

@matticus_p626 7 ай бұрын

I thought you couldn't play blind obedience without black? Is that only for hybrid mana in the casting cost?

@PlayingWithPowerMTG 7 ай бұрын

You can. The hybrid symbol is in the reminder text, which isn’t included when determining the color identity of a card.

@matticus_p626 7 ай бұрын

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG That's really useful info, thank you :)

@jessespence696 3 ай бұрын

They must have changed the rule of extort because usually you wouldn't be able to play blind obedience in a white/blue deck. I think that rule was a slight change that probably didn't need to happen..

@daflubbadubba1416 7 ай бұрын

I feel like with Ashani drawing as many cards as they did punishing them by putting counters on slicer with minsc and boo would have been a great play.

@nicolascasime9248 Жыл бұрын

Question. Why didnt cal use the temur sabertooth and the dockside to generate infinite mana?

@ChrisDavis-tt1dj Жыл бұрын

He didn’t appear to have a draw engine and there were two other Red Players at the table. He probably didn’t want to feed another possible Dockside.

@dsper7640 8 ай бұрын

Why flip slicer when he goes around the table? He has the same text no matter who controls him.

@RagingPoo 11 ай бұрын

Why didn't the Chalice die to Culling Ritual?

@ayejay7024 Жыл бұрын

I have 0 idea why everybody allowed the ad naus player to stay at that much life for that long.

@jonathanosagie1829 Жыл бұрын

i dont fully understand doesnt he only have infinite colorless mana? also he would only draw 2/3 of his deck since he would need to also always discard one right?

@angelasacchella3199 Жыл бұрын

Right, but he discard the card that he don't need (he Need only three cards of his deck in that Moment), he uses the mana from mox diamond to extort blind obidience

@switchback27 Жыл бұрын

"Draws his deck" is essentially shorthand for "he can draw as much as he needs to" and then he cast Mox Diamond to get the colored mana with the Reversals

@rebelofjustice Жыл бұрын

Temur sabertooth can block slicer easily by becoming indestructible through bouncing boo

@tysanthecreator Жыл бұрын

Why couldn’t he bounce dockside and go infinite??

@rebelofjustice Жыл бұрын

@@tysanthecreator short 1 mana

@justinlopez8977 Жыл бұрын

The mistake in this game was not attacking the same player with Slicer.

@MutantBamHammer Жыл бұрын

Slicer! No slicing!

@joesalmon778 10 ай бұрын

Doesn't Kal have infinite treasure's with Temur Sabertooth and Dockside? Why not make a gazilion treasures even without a wincon in hand?

@misterychest4265 Жыл бұрын

Maybe im missing sonething but why the minsc olayer didnt combo with temur and dockside?? He could won the game on turn four. Infinite mana recast minsc draw ten cards.

@PlayingWithPowerMTG Жыл бұрын

Iirc I was one mana short of actually bouncing Dockside the first time but I do not recall :(

@your_priscylla Жыл бұрын

Too many folks being harsh to Cal. M&B is a surprisingly difficult deck to play, especially the storm version. It can be really unforgiving if you don't know when you go for the -2 Still a really good showing Cal! If you're interested in the deck more, I'd love to help 🐹💖

@adamantlotus Жыл бұрын

Has anyone seen Drake play a non-red commander? Just saying.

@DrakeSasser Жыл бұрын

I know I, for one, have not

@adamantlotus Жыл бұрын

@@DrakeSasser I think it's great that you've found a theme and stick with it.

@gabesorci1638 Жыл бұрын

Minsc and boo player could have tapped due to tangle wire and then make another hamster because tangle wire happens before the ability to make another hamster. Missed 4 damage or an extra card.

@ArcDemonStudio Жыл бұрын

But you cannot activate playnswallers at instant speed so he had no way of sacking boo with tangle on the stack

@AidanWR Жыл бұрын

Boo definitely does not have rabies

@kablamio5736 Жыл бұрын

Then bring a decent slicer deck xD

@alessioc6219 Жыл бұрын

At 12.10, how did the calice survive culling rit? He sacced the other artifact to regenerate it, but it was before the culling rit resolved, so useless? Not getting the interaction there

@primepanda9855 Жыл бұрын

Please say Slicer again XD

@venomousspawn4086 Жыл бұрын

I might be wrong but wouldn't the chalice of the void have been destroyed by the culling ritual because it would have met the converted mana cost to be hit by the spell.

@durza7173 Жыл бұрын

It was regenerated by some effect

@Snaglbeest Жыл бұрын

Welding Jar was sacrificed to regenerate it, preventing the destroy effect.

@uphillwalrus5164 Жыл бұрын

Regenerated by welding jar

@venomousspawn4086 Жыл бұрын

@@Snaglbeest Oh ok i missed that part

@Funder1Nk Жыл бұрын

Surprise ending

@Urros Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't chalice of the void pop when the culling ritual happened? It's cmc is 0 on the battlefield.

@ilpomaitre2929 Жыл бұрын

The welding jar regenerated it

@coriandyr Жыл бұрын

They were missing torpor orb so much like the pilot that blocked after the lanawar elves should have been tapped but was still used to block 😅 and other similar patterns but magic is hard I understand

@Silas_MN Жыл бұрын

torpor orb doesn’t tap things

@coriandyr Жыл бұрын

@@Silas_MN you're right I was confused my bad

@MRHaloman832 Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about, Slicer was definitely MVP

@fnx.M Жыл бұрын

Hey PWP! I know y'all need to pay the bills and all.. But is it really necessary to put the plug for your socials *after* the deck introductions? We already sat through the intro/advert, feels kinda bad to have the flow interrupted yet again by something us regulars likely already know anyway. I mean, thanks for the content, do what you gotta do, I respect the hustle and whatnot. Just a thought. :)

@ccadet3298 Жыл бұрын

If Goaded Slicer is cloned wouldnt you have to sacrifice the clone to legend rule since goaded slicer can't be sacrificed?

@noahpetrasko6777 Жыл бұрын

704.5j If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are controlled by the same player, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.” The legend rule doesn't actually sacrifice

@switchback27 Жыл бұрын

That's the reason why Ryan narrates that "it's put into the graveyard as a state-based effect." It's not being sacrificed.

@DayOfCasual Жыл бұрын

All I hear is... Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer !

@ChrisDavis-tt1dj Жыл бұрын

Man, great game. Congrats (Slicer) to (Slicer) Ashani (Slicer) for (Slicer) the (Slicer) win.

@colethompson8561 Жыл бұрын

Am I missing something, the minsc & boo player had infinite mana dudnt they?

@rhettbright1076 Жыл бұрын

Alex would have had to sacrifice his PhImage Slicer for legend rule since the original Slicer can’t be sacrificed, right?

@MTHW4390 Жыл бұрын

Legend rule is not technically sacrificing, you just choose one to keep

@rhettbright1076 Жыл бұрын

@@MTHW4390 gotcha. I wasn’t 100% sure. I saw mixed answered when I checked online

@MtendoTheSkunk Жыл бұрын

Did I miss something? Why is Chalice in play after Culling Ritual?

@switchback27 Жыл бұрын

Welding Jar regenerated it

@hydra1259 Жыл бұрын

Why didn’t the chalice die to culling ritual?

@switchback27 Жыл бұрын

Drake sacrificed Welding Jar in response to Culling Ritual to regenerate Chalice.

@MuteSpectre Жыл бұрын

This did not feel like a cedh game

@lococelsos Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but culling ritual dont destroy the Chalice of void?

@entertainmentinc9735 Жыл бұрын

Put good players on the next video. I guess Cal wanted a 40/40 Hamster, and Drake could of done a turn 1 Slicer.

@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 Жыл бұрын

Dear Ryan, maybe you crack your absolute monstrous jokes a bit later in the middle of the video because I laughed so hard on Boo probably having Rabies I wasn't able to continue to watch.