Scott pearce oh yes that's so true

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Right! Holly Crud!

Was wondering why it sounded so bax

but that adds to the challenge (put down the pitchforks humorless redditors, this is a joke, not intended to be taken seriously, you can go back to expressing zero emotion now)

+julie jaques Congrats! You just saved a bunch of money! Last I heard a smart dealership charges $180 for an oil change.

JoeyTai11 The worst thing to happen to my smart is the starter motor died. The car was under warranty otherwise it would have cost over $900! My smart isn't the smoothest ride on the road, but it's fun as hell to drive and I love cruising around town or zipping down the highway. BTW - I just made a new video showing how to fix a broken tailgate latch.

charles vereschagin I hear that. I consider myself lucky to be only 30 miles from my dealer, but I cringe at the thought of needing to go there. My friend had the smart dealer do his oil change and it cost $180!My next 'smart' video will be how to repair a broken tailgate latch. I needed to special order the part... FROM THE DEALERSHIP!!!

​@@Denb7 180$?! I would love to pay that price. I went to Smart Certified Dealership and they charged me 500€ (that's 591$) for an oil change & filter. I cannot believe it. Next time im just going to follow your video

@@zanhaler01 If you start the engine before adding the oil, I don't recommend making a video of it then putting it on KZfaq unless you're looking to amass as many haters as possible. PS - My dealership charged me $1000+ to replace the muffler.

It's a fun car to drive around. Enjoy it while you can. Mine is turning 11 years old this year and suddenly everything is breaking down all at once. The A/C stopped working a year ago, not the ABS stopped working, check engine light came on, brake light came on yesterday and the heater fan suddenly quit working in the middle of winter. My next car will hopefully be an Elio.

unless thats sarcasm your even dumber than guy in the video

+n0nka Maybe for you, but I'm old and overweight and ramps just make it easier for me. Besides, if I didn't run the engine once a year, for 33 seconds without oil pressure, what would all my haters have to bitch about?

Wanted to thank you again for posting the smart car oil change. I have now changed oil 3 times! I change at every 5k even though smart says it is a 10k interval. I drive hard and by doing this job myself, I am happy and save money vs having someone that calls themselves pros at and oil change shop. Note: Smart has a great downloadable maintenance schedule (10k/20k....etc). I have used these forms and added to my vehicle documentation history. Cheers, P

Look at you put it in front without oil, idiots where are you, what dwarf can I say ??

Draining the oil pan doesn't remove 100% of the oil. When you pour oil from the bottle, does every trace of oil flow out and into the engine? No! Not even leaving it inverted for an hour would drain the oil out. Internal parts are still coated. Please read what I wrote in my reply to judge dredd below.

Yeah you're right about that, it's impossible to drain all the oil from the engine. You're right about many things in the video, however you will likely never admit to your one huge mistake. Draining the oil pan removes all the oil from the oil pickup which means you have zero oil pressure. Yes there is a film of oil on the parts in the engine, but you destroyed it as soon as you started the engine and the metal began to make contact. Why not share the video with your dealership and see what they think.

justin Miller The video is public. If my dealer wants to watch it, I don't care. I've changed my own oil this way for 40 years and never had a problem related to metal-on-metal wear or excessive oil consumption related to worn rings or scored cylinders. You don't give today's high-performance lubricants enough credit. Next you'll get on my case for only changing oil once a year after around 8 or 9,000 miles. Geez!

www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3592919/1

justin Miller Ha-ha! It's like I'm getting famous for this. I knew I'd catch flack from 'car mechanic Nazis' but I don't give a crap! I like the first comment about how I think it's wise to run the engine without oil... I never said it was wise. How many videos are there on KZfaq where people deliberately run a dry engine just to see it blow up. It always amazes me at how long they run. Thanks for sharing!

Paul Billingham Thanks for commenting on my video. I catch a lot of flak for running the engine before topping off the oil, but I don't care. I avoid dealerships, not out of strength, but rather necessity. In the USA, smarts are sold and maintained by Mercedes dealerships as well. I'm lucky to be only 30 miles from a dealer, but some people are 300+ miles from their nearest dealer. An oil change alone is outrageously expensive. That,s why I do it myself.

Dear Ynonne Reilly, Please explain or provide some engineering data to support your unfounded response. Are you an engineer that can support your comment with empirical data? IF not than I find your comment rude. If yes, still rude and also bullying and would not expect from a professional. P

you are an idiot of enormous proportions

yes i thought the same when he put a drynoil filter on with dirty oil round the seal

Merci

Your 'no oil' remark has been discussed at length in other comments. The fact is that even after draining the oil pan, all engine parts susceptible to friction are still coated with oil. Operating the engine for 33 seconds at idle rpm, wasn't enough to remove that oil coating. So there was oil, just no oil pressure. Most affected parts might be hydraulic lifters, You hedged second concern by stating, "a significant amount of excess oil..." As you saw, the excess oil was marginal at worst. Perhaps enough to fill the empty oil filter that others have complained about. You failed in your list of potential engine damages because you didn't categorize them with respect to whether they would result from either operating without oil or with too much oil.

Thanks! I like the shirt too. That's why I have two of them. Saw my first actual smarty while visiting the Great White Canadian North!

That's the sound of hydraulic valve lifters operating with no oil pressure. It's not the sound of parts wearing or grinding.

Yes, I could easily push my car off the ramps. And because of the slope of my driveway it would quickly roll directly across the street and into my neighbor's yard. What is your recommendation to prevent this from happening? As stated many times before, after draining the oil pan, there is a coating of oil lubricating all friction points of the engine. There is just no oil pressure while running it at an idle speed for those 33 seconds. Please advise which parts will be most affected by the lack of oil pressure during this process so I may keep an eye on them.

dave averesch Come on! It's coated in Mobil 1. All you need is a couple drops of Mobil 1! I knew I'd get trashed for that 33 seconds of video. It is worth it just to hear the motorheads complain. One of my earlier videos has over 8600 views and most of the viewers took the time to trash me in the comments. Like McDonald's says, "I'm lovin' it!"

Some oldeer smarts don't have drain plugs like the diesel. You need a vacum pump to suck it out

+danny lewis Geo engine was for prototype. Elio has an all new engine from the ground up.

Silver Cymbal In my younger days, I'd agree with you, but at 59 years old I'm overweight and out of shape, so I like using the ramps. I think, in the back of my mind, I drove off the ramps just for the shock value. It has really gotten people's attention. Watch some of those KZfaq videos where people run engines with no oil pan or rocker covers until it seizes up. It's amazes me how long it takes to destroy an engine when people are deliberately trying to do it. Thanks for watching!

Denb7 You are too funny! Best to you my friend, and God bless.

I've been changing my own oil since the early 70's and have never changed a gasket on a drain plug and have never had a leaky plug. The car only needs to be level to get a good reading on the dipstick. As long as the correct amount of oil is added, it doesn't matter. Thanks for watching!

Had a "mechanic" put in a litre too many in a little car I used to have. It leaked from then on.

Jake Hagen Thanks for not being another car Nazi! Every time I see a new comment added to this video, I have to cringe a little before reading it. Finally, don't be silly, everybody knows that Mountain Dew works better as a brake fluid than a coolant.

Haha I got your back. I'm not a "by the book" kind of guy, either.

Overkill? Have you ever tried to get dog fur out of that smart car carpeting? Don't tell anyone, but I ran the vacuum cleaner without a bag!

Denb7 well, I don't have a dog. BUT YOU DID WOT?! Running a vacuum for 10 seconds without a bag, there is no way I am letting near my orek. And thanks for the video, bout to change the oil out on mine and I know exactly what to do.

très bien merci d'avoir regardé

Sorry, but I cannot answer your question. Smart cars have been available in the United States since 2008, so unless it's imported, you won't find a smart in the US older than '08.

Did you say 300 bucks for oil change, wow what else are doing for that kind of money?

nemrac fiftyto $300! Wow. What convinced me to do my own oil changes was a friend with a smart who told me he paid $180 at our dealer in Hartford, CT.

Sorry. My smart fortwo is now a thing of my past. If you are destined to fix yours anyway, just video the process and upload it yourself.

@@Denb7 dang would of really helped me out guess I should spend the $300 to get it taken off and replaced by a professional

@@cooltraner567 Ha! You got off cheap. I let a smart dealership change my muffler. It cost me $1000.00.

+danny lewis If you like good "smilage," check out: www.eliomotors.com/ for a real head turner that's half the cost of a smart. Made in USA, 84MPH, $6800 new... .

I bought one. Had it for 15 months now

+boooooobiesrgreat My car has 38,000+ miles on it and I've been doing this since it was new. I've stated over & over that there is still oil coating the parts after draining the pan, but people will believe what they want. While the car is on ramps, accessing the oil filler by reaching over the tailgate is a pain in the ass so I run the engine a few seconds with only that film of lubricant to protect it. I would just roll it forward, shut it down and fill it, but my driveway is just too short for that. I'm no mechanic and I don't recommend people do what I do, but I'm sure enjoying the mileage from the shock value built into this video. Thanks for watching!

+Denb7 cheers for the reply

@@Denb7 Why would you use High Milage oil in a vehicle with only 38k on it? Is that too compensate for the huge amount of wear from running it without oil??🤣

I'd be wealthy iI had a dollar for every time I explained that to my critics.

+MVP11489 Holy crap man. Do you think I really give a sh**? Are there not enough disclaimers to get through to you that I'm not really concerned about those 33 seconds with no oil pressure? How do you fill a filter that mounts sideways? I've had cars with side mounted filters. You want me to drain more oil out, but then freak out if I start the engine. Maybe the old oil I left in was just for that purpose. The extra dash of oil I put in was to compensate for the empty filter. I didn't top off the crankcase! Certified, schmertified... I don't care! Thanks for watching!

+Denb7 OMG, where to begin XD. First off, that rough tapping noise you are hearing are your soft babbit/ lead coated bearings slamming against a surface induction hardened steel crank journal. Do you know what oil even does? Do you know what oil pressure is even for? Obviously not. Oil PRESSURE keeps the parts floating over each other SO THEY DONT TOUCH, EVER. Ever pull apart a motor after running it 30 seconds without oil? Obviously not, because you'd know that the bearings are now scored up. Is this a problem? Nope. It will still run fine. Won't knock, won't really cause any issues. Only that you've greatly shortened the life of the motor. Why put 20-30k miles worth of wear on a motor, in a few seconds over pure laziness? I don't really care if you want to do it, but telling others to potentially ruin their car is a dick move. What if a guy with 200k miles on his car sees this shit, and ends up with a rod knock? I'm sure you won't give a shit. If you really believe you are not causing any sort of damage at all, then you have obviously never built a motor or know what's going on here. and telling other people to damage their cars is pretty messed up. If you want to ruin your own car, then by all means, go for it. but don't tell other people that its not causing any damage, when it clearly is. I know damn well that you have never put your theory to the test and taken a pan off after doing some retarded shit like that, or even cut open an oil filter after that, because if you have, that glittery puddle of metal ridden oil would have changed your mind quick. I've accidentally started motors without oil before, and found bits of metal in the oil pan from less run time then this. Hell, I once ran a straight 6 ford without oil down the highway (shitty fram filter case exploded), and it siezed on me. started right up the next day. did the motor knock, or sieze up from that? of course not. But there was a fuckton of metal in the pan. Uhh, what to do with sideways filters? Wow, how about fill the filter up most of the way, then get it close, then angle it in there quickly, the second you start to screw it on, the threads on the shaft will keep the oil from coming out of the hole as you screw it down, as the only place the oil can leak out of is the center hole. it certainly won't come out of the anti-drainback valve holes around it. The filter on my galant is like that. Really not hard to do without so much as a drip coming from it -_- man, you really have no clue XD I'm not saying all of this to flame you, or tell you to not do this. Its a free country, do what you want, how ever you want. But don't tell someone else to do something that could ruin their own car. Times are hard, cars are expensive.

+MVP11489 Well for someone who already knows far more than poor little old me, you certainly have an awful lot to say. As a mechanic I suppose you make money fixing cars. I would think you'd appreciate a video like this as it would certainly drum up more business for folks like yourself. Could that mysterious tapping sound possibly be coming the sound of hydraulic lifters operating without pressure? Be honest! This video is how I change my oil. I never tell people to do what I do. I have disclaimers in the description and within the video to warn people. If half the people who watch KZfaq videos did half the stupid things that other people have uploaded to KZfaq, then a quarter of the world's population should technically be dead by now. Tell me something... aside from the mortal sin of that particular 33 seconds during my video, was the rest of the video acceptable? Surely, oil does enter the filter even without pre-filling it, so I consider that point of your complaint to be moot. Assuming that starting the engine to circulate oil throughout the system, then rechecking the proper fill level would mitigate the issue of not filling the filter. Is there a considerable amount of damage done by not filling the filter, or is that just your particular SOP? I still can't understand why an ASE certified mechanic would be interested in watching a video of an old fat guy doing an oil change in his driveway? As a part time janitor, I know I have no interest in watching some other dofus dry mopping a floor or refilling a paper towel dispenser. So what attracted you to this video?

+Denb7 You answered my posts backwards, so it prolly would have made more sense the other way around but its not important I guess lol. Is it possible? maybe, most likely not. the lifters are sealed. they do not have a constant flow of oil going through them (unless they are bad). the oil passages only open once the valve closes completely, but they won't leak out since there's no air in the system for the oil to leak out of. The moment the cam engages the lifter, the oil passage closes. That noise is your rod bearings as a solid flat cam motor will make that same noise without oil. Even though I would not do it the way you did, there wasn't much wrong else with the video. Of course the engine would fill up the filter, but that's not really the point. the point is to minimize run time without oil. Of course, there will always be a second or 2 it will run without oil. That can't be helped, but 2 or 3 seconds, is no where near an issue as 30 straight seconds of no oil. My point wasn't to flame you, or bash you. My point was to inform you of the damage you are causing. These motors aren't known for lasting much past 100k miles. That's what happens in a 1 litre motor, pushing over 90hp with 11:1 CR. Most cars are making the same power with almost double the size of the engine, so its already pushed pretty hard for its size.

Thanks. If I had a wrench that size I would have used it.

A unit of liquid measure.

Ha-ha-ha! Oh my goodness! You sure gave me a zinger! WOW!

umaxen01 Thanks for the tip! I'd never heard of such a thing, but it sounds like a good way to make the job easier and neater.

Denb7 It's called a Fumoto Oil Valve. It's the most brilliant automotive part on the face of the Earth. You can get one that you connect a hose to, or just a simple one like I have, it just drains into a pan. Here is the web site. www Fumoto usa dot com I spelled it out because they usually don't allow web addresses...

umaxen01 Thanks, but I already looked it up after reading your 1st post, but I appreciate the effort. I'm sure others who read this might be interested too. Removing the drain plug isn't all that difficult, but that Fumoto valve should be standard equipment. It's brilliant!

Denb7 For Denny and his friends. It's NOT only that the Fumoto oil plug value is easy to use, it's also the fact that many engines DO NOT have an oil pan and THUS IF you strip the part that the traditional plug screws into? You have basically stripped a part of the engine case. THAT could mean leaks forever unless you have a GREAT mechanic who is willing to re-drill the engine case simply to attempt to be able to put a bigger plug into the engine to be able to stop the oil leak. It's MUCH safer to put a Fumoto into the Aluminum engine of a Lamborghini ONE TIME, rather than to keep on tightening the plug into the engine simply to change the oil?

I mention that it's a 2008 in the first 5 seconds of the video.

Denb7 KZfaq is the home of the anonymous critic, don't let them bother you. One thing I like to do is find a piece of ground with some angle to it and lean the car toward the drain plug. Nothing dramatic, 5-10 degrees. Seems to get more old oil out faster.

+Denb7 Let me give you a couple tips to be fair, Let all oil drain, you probably left 1/2- 1 qt behind, also let all the oil in the filter and then put it back in the box and then the bag so it doesnt leak out. and An adjustable wrench can strip the plug. Also never let a smart car 3cyl run without oil. It has very small parts that have 0 tolerance for that kind of running. Even cold starts have some oil to pump. Let the e brake up, neutral and let it roll. Use common sense sir. I may be young but I`ve never seen so much wrong in my life.

+Jason Kaplan Thanks for playing fair. The video is edited for expediency, the oil is drained and there is nothing close to a ½ qt left in the pan. Though it's off camera, the video does show me draining the filter before bagging it and I double bag as well, but not on camera. The adjustable wrench was not my 1st choice, but it became necessary because the drain plug is larger than my largest metric wrench. The drain plug is 10mm larger than the 15mm lug nuts that hold the wheels on. It may not be an ideal choice, but when used properly, the adjustable wrench is sufficient. Running without oil isn't recommended, but I do it and I don't care how other people feel, I had hoped the disclaimers plus my commentary would be enough to fend off critics, but apparently not. Why don't people make similar comments when someone makes a video of themselves deliberately destroying an engine by running it without oil? I have also discussed rolling off the ramps which, in my case, can't be safely done by me alone. Had I started the engine only long enough to begin rolling off the ramps (4 seconds) I'm certain that I would have aroused just as much ire as I do running it for 33 seconds. To be honest, I ran without oil just to get a reaction... and it seems to be working. I've defended my position on this to death, so I won't entertain it any longer here. This video is for entertainment purposes only, so people should just cool their jets. Thanks for your feedback!

+Jason Kaplan I agree 100 percent with every thing you said here, i wonder if he still has this car and if he has had any engine trouble. lol

+nemrac fiftyto Just changed the oil again a month ago and... yes it's still running just fine with no engine trouble.

Yes hopefully goes through soon

You should not let it idle long as the gas washes the oil from cylinder wall and you increase wear. 0w40 and 5 w 40 flows in 2 seconds all over. Just drive it very slow and easy till is warm. Put a litre of 0w40 in your freezer over night. See how well it flows for yourself. Open oil cap and see in a morning. It flows in 2 seconds. Have some common sense man. Is not the 70s any more.

@@mihairadupop2491 Petrol is not a gas it's a liquid and my car is diesel which is an oil. It adds to the fact that diesel engines run for longer without any issues. We don't have very low temperatures where I live, last year -1 Deg C for a few days was the coldest, with 8 being the norm in the winter.

@@tonyciantar6417 that is hardly cold climate that would affect a full synthetic oil. To warm up in such temp is pointless. 1 min idle and 5 min easy drive to get up to temp. I also have diesel. Bmw 635d. I have a oil pan pad heater that i plug in in winter. My oil is warm at start so there is no need to warm much .