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8 ай бұрын

Friendly Discussion about Speaking in Tongues?
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@deenewgumbo
@deenewgumbo 6 ай бұрын
Allow your guest to speak without cutting them off. Don't be so anxious in being right when you invite others on your platform
@VLEEZY1
@VLEEZY1 8 ай бұрын
Coming together and peacefully talking about Gods Word is healthy. I’m blessed every time I tune in.
@LindseyDisney
@LindseyDisney 8 ай бұрын
*_"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries."_* -- 1 Corinthians 14:2
@kellyeckert1
@kellyeckert1 8 ай бұрын
This is better translated, “to a god.” The Greek text has no definite article (see similar translation in Acts 17:23, “the unknown god”). Their gibberish was worship of pagan deities. The Bible records no incident of any believer ever speaking to God in any other than normal human language. Corinthians using the counterfeit ecstatic speech of paganism were not interested in being understood, but in making a dramatic display. The spirit by which they spoke was not the Holy Spirit, but their own human spirit or some demon; and the mysteries they declared were the type associated with the pagan mystery religions, which were espoused to be the depths that only the initiated few were privileged to know and understand. Those mysteries were totally unlike the ones mentioned in Scripture (e.g., Matt. 13:11; Eph. 3:9), which are divine revelations of truths previously hidden. This is why context matters.
@LindseyDisney
@LindseyDisney 8 ай бұрын
@@kellyeckert1 : Thanks for your opinion, but I'm going to stick to the translation that I got. Have a good day.
@kellyeckert1
@kellyeckert1 8 ай бұрын
@@LindseyDisneyie… I don’t care about proper hermeneutics and Biblical interpretation I just wanna believe what I believe. Got it… so if you aren’t open to correction then please don’t comment your “opinions”.
@LindseyDisney
@LindseyDisney 8 ай бұрын
@@kellyeckert1 : I love quoting the Bible. It's a two-edged sword. The devil has no power against it.
@kellyeckert1
@kellyeckert1 8 ай бұрын
@@LindseyDisney Satan quoted scripture too. You must know the context and use it correctly. Satan celebrates when people twist God’s word. Quoting scripture out of context is one of Satan’s greatest tricks.
@sandiabdi4352
@sandiabdi4352 7 ай бұрын
My experience🎉 is when I pray and cry out to God and I dont know what else to say or cant, The Spirit takes over and tears fall and flow and I go into tongues knowing and believing Im being built up in the Spirit being filled by Him. I come out and up relieved and restored by God. Amen
@JoeyAnthonyGuerra
@JoeyAnthonyGuerra 6 ай бұрын
Speaking gibberish is a construct of your own mind. Tongues are real but they are LANGUAGES not psychobabble that has no meaning. Please don't deceive yourself. This is a learned false form of tongues. Just because other sheep do it to seem "Set apart" doesn't mean you should follow them off a cliff of deception. YAH bless you, beloved.
@courtneydyer6922
@courtneydyer6922 6 ай бұрын
@@JoeyAnthonyGuerra We as the Body of Christ filled with the Holy Ghost and given the gift of speaking in tongues is not Pyscho jibberish. Your are speaking against the Holy Ghost and the power of God that he chooses to give unto His people who are Born again, Repented and Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. John 3:3, Acts 2:38. You are help accountable for what you speak of against God and His chosen people. You really need to do some serious in depth studying up on gifts of the spirit and what is available to us today as the church and body of Jesus Christ. God forbid we don't walk in no power through Christ and operate in His spiritual gifts for the Kingdom. There is a very good reason God tells us in His word that " My people shall perish for a lack of knowledge".
@justinianoamado3980
@justinianoamado3980 6 ай бұрын
Amen
@EarlMaphike-st5pl
@EarlMaphike-st5pl 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, to say, that is a very dangerous way to believe that.please report back to God, by what you just said. You will be surprised, by the answer you will get. The devil's spirit is all over. Be careful that you not busy with the wrong spirit's just a worning?
@icemanred
@icemanred 6 ай бұрын
The purpose for tongues is to spread the gospel. The scripture tells us in Acts 8:26 - "26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.". The Spirit knows what our deepest groanings are and intercedes on our behalf to the Father.
@JoseRodriguez-vj2vv
@JoseRodriguez-vj2vv 4 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how someone can say that they used to speak in tongues and then say I don’t need it!
@jaiwills6867
@jaiwills6867 Ай бұрын
he never spoke in tongues, he spoke in a fake made up tongue that he forced himself to do, and assumes everyone who speak in tongues is faking like he was.
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 8 ай бұрын
Another question would be , why would we need to speak to God in tongues ? Jesus Christ never told His disciples to pray in tongues when the Holy Spirit comes .
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 8 ай бұрын
Yep, I agree
@duanemarrow6281
@duanemarrow6281 6 ай бұрын
But did Jesus tell them to tarry in Jerusalem Luke 24:49 ? Now if this the same Jesus I know , did he not know what would occur on the day of Pentecost ?
@JoBo301
@JoBo301 3 ай бұрын
Eer yes he did - Mark 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
@Eldertalk
@Eldertalk 3 ай бұрын
@@JoBo301 They will drive out demons, they will speak in new tongues - continue that. Do you also handle snakes and drink poison? If not why not.
@Leelang931
@Leelang931 2 ай бұрын
To my understanding, It’s a spiritual gift for some a sign of the holy spirit, it’s edifying for yourself to help unbelievers believe, to pray in the spirit when you don’t know what to pray for.
@curt62208
@curt62208 8 ай бұрын
Good conversation, great back & forth, I appreciated both presentations. I know both parties took away something! Thanks for posting!
@joycepartee7797
@joycepartee7797 7 ай бұрын
I Speak in tongues when I am Praying. to GOD!
@EarlMaphike-st5pl
@EarlMaphike-st5pl 6 ай бұрын
Sorry i dis agree with with that. Jesus died for us, not Paul. Even Paul mansion that in his writing"s. In the 4 gospels , not even Jesus who is our example, pray in toungs, through out the gospel. We as believes, we don't read with a prayerful understand. We just grab hold of something, and apley it to our life's. Which is very wrong, Jesus wornd us, he who has an ear let him hear. Jesus repeat it in the gospel and in the book of Revelation. The way we talk to each other now, that's how God what's us to talk to Him. The gospel has spread to moust parts of the world. And many people all around the world hear the gospel already . The gift of tounge's is not so important like it was in the early church. Everyone at least, knows about Jesus so far. The one's that don't yet, will know soon as well. Jesus said before He return back to earth, everyone will know the truth, i mean everyone. 2 Peter 3:9, is more important than, speaking in tongues? Worry about your shellvation. Getting ready for heaven, then to pray in toungs. I believe God is not please by the way believes, are making a morckery out of the speaking in tongues. My God have mercy on all of those that speaking and praying in tongues . Don't miss understand Paul? To day's tongues, are the Satan's tongues and many people are not even aware of is, be careful just a worning out there. What i said now, take it to the Lord in prayer. That's all what i can say to thous that are reading this. Have a great day.
@icemanred
@icemanred 6 ай бұрын
Why do you speak in tongues when praying to God? What language are you speaking?
@digginginwithtamara1414
@digginginwithtamara1414 5 ай бұрын
Ask the LORD God, by what spirit do you speak?
@user-fe9fw5ty8n
@user-fe9fw5ty8n 5 ай бұрын
DONT KNOW WHERE YOU "READ" PAUL SAY THAT IN THE 4 GOSPELS... THAT'S RIGHT, YOU DIDNT READ IT!!! SOMEBODY TOLD YOU THAT, OR YOU HEARD IT FROM SOMEBODY THAT IS AS CONFUSED AS A TERMITE IN A YO- YO IN A HURRICANE... AND YOU RAN WITH IT... JESUS DID SPEAK IN "OTHER TONGUES"!! TWICE "THAT I KNOW OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD"!! "TALITHA CUMI" INTERPRETED "LITTLE GIRL ARISE"!!! AGAIN ON THE CROSS "ELOI, ELOI, LAMASABACTHANI" INTERPRETED, " MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME"?? DONT TAKE WHAT PEOPLE SAY AS TRUTH.. SEARCH0 0THE SCRIPTURES FOR YOURSELF.. WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING!!!👊👊🫷🫷👊👊😎
@tumelo1
@tumelo1 5 ай бұрын
​@@EarlMaphike-st5plHi I want to understand something. Are you saying what Paul said about tongues was him being disobedient to God and thus you exclude whatever Paul hath said? (Just an honest question, I want to understand)...
@wajkirby
@wajkirby 7 ай бұрын
Love your content Corey, and I'm directing family and friends to your channel. Studying the scriptures with the addition of what you share from the original languages adds so much to my understanding of the Bible. What I'm learning through your channel has caused me to reexamine what I've been taught and the way I've studied the scriptures. It has required me to be willing to let go of the way I had come to see certain things. I have a greater excitement for studying and sharing God's word.
@ddmcgee
@ddmcgee 7 ай бұрын
God bless everyone
@soledisciple
@soledisciple 7 ай бұрын
I love your comment. As a black man coming out of the prosperity Pentecostal COGIC churches, I have had a true paradigm shift in my understanding of scripture. I have had a reset thanks to God! I'm happy for your growth!
@marlinegabriel7551
@marlinegabriel7551 7 ай бұрын
I’m a new listener, I’ve been truly blessed. Thanks Cory for the clear explanation. It has cleared up a lot of misunderstandings for me.
@normanarmstrong5826
@normanarmstrong5826 4 ай бұрын
Hey Corey, I watched the whole video, and I would have to say that what you are missing is the power of the moving of the Spirit in both the Church setting and in your private prayer life.
@katrinawilliams2228
@katrinawilliams2228 8 ай бұрын
We have to be careful about putting our opinion and/or experience or lack there of (whether on one side or the other) above the Bible. Believe what the Word says, and read it in context.
@andreapwhite939
@andreapwhite939 8 ай бұрын
Why would you have to or want to speak to God in tongues? What’s wrong with speaking to Him in your natural language? He will understand you!
@mattysqueezesofficial
@mattysqueezesofficial 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@andreapwhite939exactly, after all, God created all of the known languages we hear & speak of today. He understands you in your native language. I absolutely agree here. Theres no point in speaking in another unknown language because know one’s going to understand you anyway so what’s the point? It doesn’t make you a better Christian too if you speak in tongues or not. Paul even says he rather us prophecy than speak in tongues.
@katrinawilliams2228
@katrinawilliams2228 8 ай бұрын
@@andreapwhite939speaking to God in a tongue does not mean that it is wrong to speak to Him in our natural language. Paul said that he would do both. Do all speak in a tongue is what the Bible says. Conversely if God has allowed us to have the gift of tongues why is that wrong? It’s not wrong according to the scriptures to speak in a tongue if God allows one to. I for one want all that God has for me. If that is or is not speaking in a tongue so be it! But I will not twist scriptures based on whether or not it makes sense to my natural understanding.
@katrinawilliams2228
@katrinawilliams2228 8 ай бұрын
@@mattysqueezesofficialYes God created the our natural languages. God also created tongues. He understands us in our “native” language AND HE understand stands us when we pray in the Spirit speaking mysteries. You said that it doesn’t make one a better Christian, but the scriptures says that it edifies the one speaking. It doesn’t mean that it makes one a “better “ Christian “ comparing to another Christian who does not speak in tongues. No.. the Bible does not teach that. Looking at the context of scripture it clearly teaches tongues. We cannot or should not read scripture filtered through our desires, natural understanding, or whether or not we don’t have that particular gift… What we should do is allow scripture to shape and mold our beliefs and opinions. Paul did say that it is better to prophesy than to speak in a tongue… but what is the entire context? He was referring to in a public setting. Having said that Paul said that he speaks in tongues more than all of them and that the solution was to do both. He also said that not all speak in a tongue.
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 8 ай бұрын
​@@andreapwhite939So true. Some even believe they can get prayers answered better as if God's mind can be changed by magic noises
@maranathahosanna7151
@maranathahosanna7151 8 ай бұрын
It's simple! If I only speak Chinese, among a group of people who speak English and start praying out loud, I would only be speaking to God and no one else would benefit from what I'm saying cause they only speak English. Therefore, I would then have to pray silently and keep it between me and God and also desire that God would give me the ability to interpret/ explain that others may understand.
@halgo46
@halgo46 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. God would never have someone babble. If he make you speak it would be for someone to hear.
@monical2840
@monical2840 7 ай бұрын
​@@halgo46 lol.. your comment is funny because God literally confounded the people's languages at the Tower of Babble in order that their communication turned into babble.
@DaChristianYute
@DaChristianYute 8 ай бұрын
You know, I’ve always heard people “Speak in tongues” but I’ve never heard anyone interpret and another issue is If you who speak in Tongues believe the Holy Spirit is the one who causes you to speak in tongues and you would agree to that. You would also agree that the Holy Spirit Worked in Paul to write the scriptures….if that’s the case if the Spirit is leading Paul to write and say Don’t speak in tongues unless you interpret or someone is there to interpret and especially don’t do it if you are around 3 or more and no one is there to interpret, if the Holy Spirit wrote those Scriptures why then would the Holy Spirit “Cause” you to speak in Tongues inside a church full of people constantly without interpreters Contradicting himself? Like think about why would “GOD” contradict himself by causing you to do something he Himself told you not to do? Someone who speaks in Tongues in a church full of people can you explain this for me?
@ownown8585
@ownown8585 8 ай бұрын
This is honestly the best simplest question that debunks there argument perfectly. Becuz I know not one person that "speaks in tongues" is going to be able to answer it.
@certaindisciple1981
@certaindisciple1981 8 ай бұрын
I speak in Tongues and interpret. I understand those passages. They are clear. The mind jumps to all the wrong experiences then read into that makes it seem unclear. Example, we don't teach people we lead people in Tongues. One key is that Interpretation is interpretation and not translation. Can I get a hearing. I will put up a video this weekend by 12/11/23. I'm not apart of the "Spirit and Truth" here on KZfaq but they have it correct in their teaching also. They have a 4 part series. In our Church it take about 30 hours just to make sure people understand the scriptures on being born again and the gift of holy spirit then tongues is very clear. It is hard to do equations without understand your time table.
@JacobSerwinski-fx3on
@JacobSerwinski-fx3on 8 ай бұрын
I use the same argument... how can it be the Holy Spirit when it's never done as the Scripture commands... and I used to speak in tongues myself.... Not anymore!!
@ifeifesi
@ifeifesi 8 ай бұрын
That's the ridiculous reality of it. The Holy Spirit who is perfect in all His ways becomes imperfect when giving the gift of tongues by not giving the translation of it in equal measure. That's how you know the gibberish we hear uttered is completely fake and not from God.
@user-ew7bp4sl4p
@user-ew7bp4sl4p 8 ай бұрын
​@@certaindisciple1981you keep saying ( I ) should say the Holy Spirit because if you say the Holy Spirit is speaking and interpreting tongues there are consequences when people lie.
@roberta.transparentliving9757
@roberta.transparentliving9757 8 ай бұрын
I actually have love for brother Cory and I believe that he is a very smart and intelligent person, God bless the both of these brothers.😊❤
@Meggerz207
@Meggerz207 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for having Sam on. This was great. I can understand both sides and I love how you both ended this. That is how it should be.
@garyvangorder2169
@garyvangorder2169 8 ай бұрын
I totally believed the gift of tongues just the way you explained it, but now I believe it more haha. That was awesome the way you told it,with love and knowledge wow I'm just amazed how the holy Spirit works through people. God bless you all
@richardlicata8207
@richardlicata8207 7 ай бұрын
I love you Cory, but I completely disagree with where you are going with your argument. Yes, Paul is encouraging the gift of prophesy over the gift of tongues (in context) but he never says "Don't speak in tongues", actually just the opposite "I wish you all spoke with tongues" 1 Cor. 14:5. But prophesy is a better gift but tongues are still a gift.
@doloresgreen4062
@doloresgreen4062 8 ай бұрын
1 Cor 14:2-15 . He who speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not to men, but to God. No man understands him, but he speaks mysteries to God.
@johncomeaux4951
@johncomeaux4951 5 ай бұрын
I truly believe this. I only know of 2 people in my lifetime and at this point, I'm 61 and said 2 people has since gone to glory, real spiritual people that spoke in an unknown and unscripted language. I've heard that language and you just be knowing that its authentic. All that stuff you hear on stage and in pulpits are not legit at all, y'all need to stop it. Holala Shoboshia is NOT real tongues. The real tongue language is "unpronounceable" to anyone else but the person speaking it and God and no one else. When you hear it, you know that it is a language not of this earth and it is NOT for you to interpret because you are not designed intellectually to be able to do so.
@platinumboy89
@platinumboy89 8 ай бұрын
Paul was saying that when you have a cacophony of babbling in various languages, you’re going to be showing non-Believers a lack of order from the Spirit and in the Body/Church. If everyone is loud and screaming, nothing of substance will go forth… In short: If no one knows what is being said, what value does it bring?
@duanemarrow6281
@duanemarrow6281 6 ай бұрын
Interpret it , it’s right there in scripture
@I-AM-BELIEVER
@I-AM-BELIEVER 8 ай бұрын
Corey to answer your question. You weren’t proven wrong, but he did inadvertently prove you right. These “church” are following a religion not God. Sha tata ain’t edifying no one.
@tonante27
@tonante27 8 ай бұрын
Corey got him with the Greek . Sometimes we have to use that . “Study to show thyself approved”.
@laurencejohnson8573
@laurencejohnson8573 7 ай бұрын
Corey was wrong and he said he was wrong. All that gibberish needs to be corrected on the spot. Corey said he was wrong let it go
@kkyle9726
@kkyle9726 7 ай бұрын
@@laurencejohnson8573 show me where Corey said he was wrong. Not one time on here did he say he was wrong. Show the time line.
@Chaquita_T
@Chaquita_T 7 ай бұрын
🤣
@duanemarrow6281
@duanemarrow6281 6 ай бұрын
That’s actually not accurate . To mock is an indicator
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 8 ай бұрын
Paul spoke in tongues more than all of them because he spread the gospel to a lot of people who spoke different languages .
@davesawe5346
@davesawe5346 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. He went to so many different places he had to speak in their Languages
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 8 ай бұрын
He knew greek...Latin, and Hebrew....people could learned 3+ languages easy
@12OunceProphet
@12OunceProphet 8 ай бұрын
no, that is NOT what paul was referring to. I have this gift and GOD allows me to speak in tongues and other Christians will understand what i am saying in ENGLISH , while i speak in UNKNOWN TONGUES. God will give some people the interpretation or allow others who don't speak ENGLISH to understand it in there OWN language . Most people who are against or speaking against tongues have never spoke in tongues , don't have a deep prayer life , etc. and have no experience with it .
@svenpatersson140
@svenpatersson140 8 ай бұрын
​@@12OunceProphet Paul is sarcastic when he said you edify yourself... Look at the context. He rebuke the Corinthians harshly...
@davesawe5346
@davesawe5346 8 ай бұрын
@@12OunceProphetbased on that? can you tell what that sounds like?
@user-qd9nu7hq1j
@user-qd9nu7hq1j 8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this discussion and appreciated bro Sam . He was gracious and open to learning. He was also respectful and is genuinely desiring the things of God. Thanks bro Corey for your clear teaching. Blessings!
@bettybryant2084
@bettybryant2084 8 ай бұрын
I think the other young man had a better understanding. He just didn't want to continue in the discussion because Bro. Corey was being unyielding. I know Corey was not open and the young man knew it as well And didn't want to strive with him. I had to open myself to be taught and used by God. I open myself to His leading and never think I have all the answers
@gwenlucas4200
@gwenlucas4200 8 ай бұрын
​@@bettybryant2084 I totally agree with you!! When Corey posits that he "could" be wrong about something, it just gives him the opportunity to "prove" he is right!!! Clickbait!!!!❤❤ ❤❤
@bettybryant2084
@bettybryant2084 8 ай бұрын
@@gwenlucas4200 I discovered that as well. I went to the young man's podcast and he expounded uninterrupted. I don't pretend to know everything but those things I personally experienced was for a reason and I hold fast to those things
@tylercampbell6365
@tylercampbell6365 8 ай бұрын
He'll never admit he's wrong and I don't want that kind of person teaching me 😂
@arturomacias6185
@arturomacias6185 6 ай бұрын
Love it
@roscoes9933
@roscoes9933 7 ай бұрын
Rev Corey, you are spot on teaching on Tongues where no one knows what is being said. However, some church the Tongues are never tested or interpreted. God has given you a gift to teach Gods word. Amen & Amen 🙏🙏🙏
@Deedee-rb1wi
@Deedee-rb1wi 6 ай бұрын
First of all Corey can't be referenced as a Reverend there is only one who is to be referenced. And as far as speaking in tongues we speak to God not knowing what we're saying but God does. Tongues can't be tested only prophecy.
@roscoes9933
@roscoes9933 6 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:27-28 New King James Version (NKJV) If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. Moreover, (I believe that this means there should be an interpreter, otherwise, someone could be swearing in the church in a tongue they know but no other person understands)
@roscoes9933
@roscoes9933 6 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:27-28 New King James Version (NKJV) If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. Moreover, (I believe that this means there should be an interpreter, otherwise, someone could be swearing in the church in a tongue they know but no other person understands) @@Deedee-rb1wi
@christoprighteous8199
@christoprighteous8199 8 ай бұрын
Interesting how Peter used tongues to witness but today's tongues crowd uses it for themselves. Tongues was for unbelievers.
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 8 ай бұрын
Yep. Today's gibberish tongues speakers are very proud of their gift. Everytime Ive talked with one, they insulted my salvation and told me I just don't have the spirit. They defend it in the same way that people defend false prophets
@brucedavenport7016
@brucedavenport7016 Ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 1 Corinthians 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
@charlesluminary
@charlesluminary 8 ай бұрын
God bless you corey! You are doing a wonderful job with this particular topic. Every single time I listen to you regarding this topic, I get a more deeper understanding. All glory to God for you sir.
@VLEEZY1
@VLEEZY1 8 ай бұрын
I Agree,,,
@HelpfulFriend77
@HelpfulFriend77 7 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting convo. Thank you both for at least agreeing that pursuing Love is the ultimate pursuit. In my estimation, it the greater gift than the gifts of prophesying, miracles and all kind of wonderful works.
@Morales705
@Morales705 7 ай бұрын
It’s a known language to the ones hearing it but not the one speaking it… that’s why it was miraculous… being able to speak a language that’s you’ve never spoken
@py20
@py20 7 ай бұрын
"For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." 1 Cor 14:2 I don't see how any known human language is what Paul means here. All human languages are spoken to men. Tongues is speaking mysteries by the Holy Spirit to God, not men. Where's the confusion?
@rainyhollowell2280
@rainyhollowell2280 7 ай бұрын
If it's a known language, someone should be available to interpret it. Follow God's commandment. Simple as that!!! Too much gibberish is being spoken. I once belonged to a church in which a prosperity preacher would speak in gibberish, and he had a partner to interpret the gibberish to scam the congregation out of money. BEWARE!!!!
@glocksafari
@glocksafari 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@py20I agree with the scripture shared in the first half but on the day of Pentecost the tongues were certainly known, man-made languages. I believe tongues is both.
@Mightyccc
@Mightyccc 5 ай бұрын
@@py20if you read the rest of that chapter and the context, you’d see that Paul is against speaking in tongues if there is nobody there to interpret what you’re saying. If you truly speak in tongues and are not forcing yourself to do it, do it alone. Because when you do it in front of people without an interpreter, you’re edifying yourself and not the church.
@py20
@py20 4 ай бұрын
@@Mightyccc The abuse and misuse of tongues is real and ought to be denounced and corrected. But we can acknowledge the abuse without rejecting tongues as unbiblical. The two are not the same, my brother.
@Tashamacktv
@Tashamacktv 8 ай бұрын
I believe the “ tongues” that these churches broadcast ,that people don’t understand, should be left in their prayer closet personally for themselves. The tongues of speaking different languages should be used in the church with a person who is able to give accurate interpretation. Someone can come along and interpret it when they speak that language that is spoken. Speaking these unknown tongues are no benefit to the body or other Christians nor is it beneficial to reaching unbelievers.
@johnaguero1849
@johnaguero1849 8 ай бұрын
Cory not everyone has the resource to use hermeneutics to break down scripture.....if the word of God is to go to the uttermost parts of the world. We can assume they may or may not have hermeneutics to understand the teachings of the bible. God manifest his word through preaching....its Him who does it not hermeneutics.
@gloriawilson8723
@gloriawilson8723 6 ай бұрын
What I understand from Paul’s teachings, it that there is a heavenly language that only God knows and when someone speaks it, the person edifies himself.
@allenmason5341
@allenmason5341 7 ай бұрын
Job well done Corey . You Made it obvious my man really doesn’t understand the word me personally if i were him id get more understanding.
@sophiapope7590
@sophiapope7590 6 ай бұрын
This made my stomach hurt! It's scary when you know so much! The brother in blue is very humble and patient! Just be holy like God said. I'm glad you ended the way you did.
@suechapel1443
@suechapel1443 8 ай бұрын
This is what happens when we trust more in our experiences than the word of God. I was "baptized in the Holy Spirit" at age 15 "the evidence of speaking in tongues" and the experience was powerful. I finally had to put it away a few years ago as speaking gibberish and not of God, thanks to the proper understanding of the text. Thank you Brother Corey 🙏❤
@dmkith
@dmkith 7 ай бұрын
Hi, Sue, I hope that you will pray and ask God whether or not your gift of speaking in tongues was by The Holy Spirit or was it something manufactured by your own mind. God bless you, Dave ❤️🙏🏾
@courtneydyer6922
@courtneydyer6922 7 ай бұрын
You think Speaking in tongues is jibberish?? That is garbage!! Your being decieved. Your allowing others to decieve you. There is speaking in tongues with a prayer language and speaking in tongues to the church that needs an interpreter!!
@fruitfullifewithlizg
@fruitfullifewithlizg 7 ай бұрын
You can't put tongues away, unless you are out of fellowship with Christ. I was given the gift of tongues at an early age and had it until I went into the world. While I was in the world, there were no tongues. When I rededicated myself to Christ and became submissive to Christ the holy spirit of tongues came back.
@ljabidinginthevine3779
@ljabidinginthevine3779 6 ай бұрын
@@fruitfullifewithlizgAmen!!
@courtneydyer6922
@courtneydyer6922 6 ай бұрын
@@fruitfullifewithlizg Amen! That is 100% truth. I did the same thing so can vouch for your testimony. God is so Great to never give up on us. And as we seek after Him fervently He blesses us with His choice of spiritual gifts. All Glory to God as we walk through Christ upright and walk in the fullness of Christ. God Bless you and your family.. Each day put on the whole armour of God (Ephesians 6:10-17) and be ready for battle as He opens doors to work the fields for lost souls.
@implacabluprophet7201
@implacabluprophet7201 6 ай бұрын
What needs to be understood is that Paul is letting us know that when glossolalia tongues "angelic tongues", we don't know what we are saying in the open. That's why he mentioned that we are communicating with Elohim, and it leads to Paul instructing us to have an interpreter along with that one person to give understanding to what's being said. Here's where the edification of the body of Christ is mentioned because the gifting of prophecy edifies others. Tongues edifies that person. Remember Paul said if he had a choice he'd between tongues and prophesying, then he'd choose prophecy because it edifies the body pastor Christ.
@duanemarrow6281
@duanemarrow6281 6 ай бұрын
Brother Corey himself concerning Prophecy defined it as also meaning “ to reveal “ what did Jesus say concerning the Holy Spirit that he was gonna send in John 16:13 . So can we agree that the Lord reveals through the preached word and prophecy released in present tense also ?
@larryhillsong2557
@larryhillsong2557 8 ай бұрын
Proverbs 3:5 ESV Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. Proverbs 28:26 ESV Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered. Exodus 14:14 ESV The Lord will fight for you, and you have only to be silent.”
@ruthcollins64
@ruthcollins64 8 ай бұрын
I still don't understand why we can not just go to God in our own language the spirit groans not babble
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 8 ай бұрын
For real. It seems more about pride with people. If tongues were a real supernatural gift, then we wouldn't need faith because we'd have proof
@mohawkduda8554
@mohawkduda8554 2 ай бұрын
​@@cowel8734Love your comment!!
@WTDbibletalks
@WTDbibletalks 6 ай бұрын
Love this dialog brother Cory, great discussion
@grandbois5624
@grandbois5624 6 ай бұрын
Hi Corey, what biblical software are you using? Thanks
@BEABEREAN10
@BEABEREAN10 8 ай бұрын
This whole jude 20 argument is bunk. It doesn't say "build up each other by praying in the Holy Spirit." It says build up yourselves BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE. -It's like if I tell a group of kids after basketball practice "you all need to go fuel yourselves with food" but this doesn't mean they are now going to go feed each other. They are going to go feed themselves and by doing so they will ALL be built up and fueled. Btw, I am not arguing that Jude 20 is about praying in tongues as i beleive you can pray in the Spirit in English...but it's clearly an instruction to a group of people to who each need to be praying so that they can be edified and then with your edification you are then able to edify others.
@smartchristians
@smartchristians 8 ай бұрын
The context of Jude is what? He is arguing for a defense of the faith and then encourages the body to build up ἑαυτοὺς "plural accusative" yourselves. In context and in view of EVERY OTHER passage about building up others, and since we don't see another passage telling to build up yourself, then my point is made.
@BEABEREAN10
@BEABEREAN10 8 ай бұрын
@@smartchristians Brother Corey I'll give you one verse and you let me know what "be strong" means since you know some Greek. But it seems to me that Paul is telling them to *strengthen themselves* in the Lord based in the definition below and the fact that he tells them to take up the armor. And we each need to do this for ourselves. Yes, it's a different Greek word, but Paul is telling them to do something for themselves. To take upon the armor of God. And thus, when they do so they are helping to strengthen the whole body. Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, *be strong* in the Lord and in the power of His might. Greek: g1743. ἐνδυναμόω endynamoō; from 1722 and 1412; to empower: - enable, (increase in) strength(-en), be (make) strong.AV (8) - be strong 3, strengthen 2, increase in strength 1, enable 1, be made strong 1; I think my original comment made it clear that Paul could be talking about each person edifying themselves through prayer, but it seems you argumentation stems from the fact that you can't find another verse that says the same thing. I just think that's poor hermeneutic because that allows you to reinterpret any idea that is stated once into whatever you want it to say. But hopefully Ephesians 6:10 will at least give you something to hold on to here. Again, to be completely clear though, edifying yourself for your own benefit only IS WRONG. But edifying yourself for the benefit of others is exactly what we should do. That's why we pray, read, study, seek after God is to edify ourselves for the benefit and edification of the whole body of Christ in order that we could a) defend the faith, which akins back to Ephesians 6:10 where Paul says strengthen yourself in the Lord.
@BEABEREAN10
@BEABEREAN10 7 ай бұрын
@@smartchristians no reply on Ephesians 6:10 brother? Just curious honestly because it seems pretty clear to me but I could be wrong
@donaugustine9748
@donaugustine9748 4 ай бұрын
I think Jude 20 implies “with the Holy Spirit”. Not Tongues. But we can see that the gift can also be used to build up the body(as it’s supposed to) or edify oneself. This is clearly done in acts 2. 1)They were speaking mysteries to God (the wonderful works of God) 2) people understood (Prophecy) If it’s not understood then (the gift) is being used wrong. Only edifying oneself. Nothing wrong with edifying ourselves but we are called to edify one another. This is why the GIFT of TONGUES is ONLY A SIGN GIFT. A gift none the less but it was only for a sign to the unbelieving Jews. Period. Understanding that it’s ONLY PURPOSE was a sign to the unbeliever is key to understanding this gift. Prophecy is for the believer.
@PhotriusPyrelus
@PhotriusPyrelus 8 ай бұрын
When I read Acts 2, it seemed to me like it wasn't that each apostle was speaking a different language, but rather that all hearers heard their words in his own native language. I guess you could say each of the apostles was speaking *all* languages, simultaneously. "...the crowd came together and were confounded, because each man heard them speaking in his own language. 7 They were all amazed and marveled, saying to each other, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 How is it that we hear, each in our own native language?"" Each of the hearers heard the apostles - as a group, not individually - speaking in his own language. If I was trying to get across that each hearer hears *an* apostle speaking in his native language, I'd have said just that. Furthermore, look at the list of nations: Parthians, Medes, Elamites, Mesopotamia, Judea, Cappadocia, Pontus, Asia, Phrygia, Pamphylia, Egypt, Libya, Rome, Cretans, and Arabs. I'm counting 15 regions there. And there were only 12 apostles. Peter's speech makes more sense this way, too, I think, given that the entire assembly would understand him, not just however many could understand whichever language he was speaking at the time. I'm quite happy to be corrected, if there's some peculiarity of the Greek that gets lost in translation, or if some of those regions speak the same language. That's just something I thought of when I read it a week ago.
@josiahmoeller8821
@josiahmoeller8821 8 ай бұрын
That would mean unbelievers (hearers) were using the gift of interpretation, but they haven’t received the spirit yet so that narrative does not logically follow. Furthermore, it plainly says that the spirit came on the believers, and divided tongues fell on each of the believers, and THEY began to SPEAK in other languages. So if you read it in context it does say that the believers were the ones who began speaking in other languages as the spirit gave them ability. If they began to speak in other languages, then it logically follows that bystanders would hear them and understand them speaking in their own language. Contextually the miracle has nothing to do with the hearers, but rather the speakers.
@kimberlyfranklin7645
@kimberlyfranklin7645 8 ай бұрын
​@@josiahmoeller8821amen
@PhotriusPyrelus
@PhotriusPyrelus 8 ай бұрын
@@josiahmoeller8821 Which is why I rephrased in the first paragraph: " I guess you could say each of the apostles was speaking all languages, simultaneously."
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 8 ай бұрын
This would take a few pages to explain properly; so, for the sake of brevity, I’m considerably simplifying and ‘bottom lining’ the below. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit did not give the _language_ (i.e., the means/content) of the apostles’ speech, it gave the _manner_ in which it was spoken. The Holy Spirit gave the 12 apostles what in the Greek text is “apophtheggesthai”. This word is from “apophtheggomai” which is best translated as “to give bold, authoritative, inspired speech to”. Don’t go to Strong’s and look it up - “Strong’s” is a _concordance_ , not a lexicon; there’s a _huge_ difference. It refers *not* to the content/means of the speech (i.e., the language used), but rather to the *manner* of speaking. In each instance where this word occurs in scripture, the person's speech is bold, authoritative, and inspired, and it is always, by the way, in the speaker’s native language. Without going into what could be considerable detail, when looking at the “language wherein the attendees were born” there are only two: Aramaic and Greek. The Jews present at Pentecost came from three areas: Judea, the Western Diaspora and the Eastern Diaspora. “All nations under heaven” is an idiomatic expression - Acts II: 9-11 tells us where those visiting were from. Jews from Judea spoke Aramaic and some may have grown up speaking Greek. Jews of the Western Diaspora spoke Greek. Jews of the Eastern Diaspora spoke the languages of those countries, but it was never the language of "hearth and home", the language wherein they were born. That language was Aramaic. Think of immigrant communities here. They may all speak English to some degree, but it's certainly not what they're speaking at home and amongst themselves. To try and use another analogy - think of the Jewish Diaspora in Central and Eastern Europe prior to WWII. Many countries, many languages, and Jewish people living in these places spoke the local language in varying degrees of fluency. But it was _never_ their native language, the language of hearth and home, the language wherein they were born - that language was Yiddish. The one language that defined them as Jews no matter where they were from. Same situation in the 1st century Eastern Diaspora, the defining language (the equivalent of my analogy’s Yiddish) was Aramaic. Many lands, many places and people, but only two languages; Aramaic and Greek; and of course, the apostles spoke both. The “list of nations”, as it’s called, of Acts 2: 9-11 is simply that - a list of countries, lands and nations that tell us where these people were from; *not* what language(s) they spoke, as most people assume. Further, the idea that the “tongues” of Acts II was xenoglossy also stems from this false assumption. In the entire narrative not *one* language is ever referenced by name - ever wonder why? The miracle of language at Pentecost was making the God of the Jews accessible to all people and moreover, not having to do so in one prescribed language: namely, Hebrew, the sacerdotal language of Judaism. The crowd was expecting to hear Hebrew first followed by translations into Aramaic and Greek as was the tradition and practice of the day; what they got were Aramaic and Greek without Hebrew first. In Acts 2, the actual gift being emphasized is the fact that the Holy Spirit has empowered the disciples to _prophesy_ and to boldly proclaim the Word of the Lord, and this is exactly what we find in verse 14. Peter “lifted up his voice and _addressed_ them”, but perhaps a better translation would be that he lifted up his voice and _prophesied._ We tend to think of prophecy as a kind of foretelling of future events, but in the Hebrew use, it was more often associated with _speaking forth_ the Word of the Lord. I would argue that, if looking for a gift of the Holy Spirit to assign to Pentecost, it would be more the gift of Prophesy than of Languages. No xenoglossy, no modern tongues-speech, just real, rational language(s). There *was* a language miracle at Pentecost provided by the Holy Spirit, no argument there; just not the one most people assume. And of course, again, when the apostles received (were baptized in) the Holy Spirit, the only tongues (read ‘languages’) spoken as “initial evidence” thereof, were their own. In short, there was no “baptism of the Holy Spirit with initial evidence of tongues” at Pentecost, that’s a modern Pentecostal construct.
@PhotriusPyrelus
@PhotriusPyrelus 8 ай бұрын
@@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 That was fascinating, thank you for the comment.
@Fasttydevi
@Fasttydevi 8 ай бұрын
Praise the Lord my brother In Christ I was brought up in the Pentecostal church as well and we had to tarry for the holy Spirit and some did probably fake speaking in tongues because of the pressure of wanting to be saved are they then saved anyway? They love the Lord
@peakitforme123
@peakitforme123 6 ай бұрын
Hello, we are saved by Grace, through faith ALONE! Once one believes, they receive the Holy spirit. That's how we gain eternal life. It's not about what we do, our works, or gifts. Salvation is directly related to the finish work on the cross and atonement for our sins accomplished by Jesus Christ! Just believe in faith....God bless....
@JoeyAnthonyGuerra
@JoeyAnthonyGuerra 6 ай бұрын
​@@peakitforme123We must be set apart and put in work for the kingdom. Faith without works is dead. Follow YAHWEH our ELOHIM not a false god named "grace"
@forgiveus-eb9vm
@forgiveus-eb9vm 6 ай бұрын
James 2:17-26 KJV Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. You are wrong you can't stop reading or pick out scripture you must read the whole Bible. You took that out of context.
@scribblin_fun531
@scribblin_fun531 5 ай бұрын
Read the book of mark chapter 16 and the book of acts
@seanlyons11
@seanlyons11 5 ай бұрын
This was great! I dont agree with brother Sam. However, i am thankful for him coming on and giving scripture to support his view. He must be in one of the very few churches who speak in tongues and have someone to interpret what is being said. If that's true, then Amen.
@ENDofREGULATION30
@ENDofREGULATION30 8 ай бұрын
I've never met a person with the gift of interpretation. Imagine, God giving the gift of tongues without us having the ability to understand
@gwenlucas4200
@gwenlucas4200 8 ай бұрын
Does that mean that people who have the gift of interpretation do not exist because you never met anyone with the gift of interpretation?!!😮
@ENDofREGULATION30
@ENDofREGULATION30 8 ай бұрын
@@gwenlucas4200 That is a very fair question that you are asking! Do you know someone who has this gift? Can u you set up a meeting?
@gwenlucas4200
@gwenlucas4200 8 ай бұрын
​@ENDofREGULATION30 I have been in services where an interpretation did follow after a person spoke openly in tongues. Sorry, I did not ask for their credentials or how I could reach that person!! But the scriptures does include interpretation of tongues as a gift that God gives. I Cor. 12:10.❤❤
@ENDofREGULATION30
@ENDofREGULATION30 8 ай бұрын
@@gwenlucas4200 and we are told to test ALL THINGS! How do you know what they said is legit?
@ENDofREGULATION30
@ENDofREGULATION30 8 ай бұрын
@@gwenlucas4200 record someone who is speaking in tongues. Go to 2-3 people who claim to have the gift of interpretation. Get the results and then get back at me 👉 But, I dont think you will do this experiment.... because this would expose the truth. As a Christian, you should care about truth.
@gwenlucas4200
@gwenlucas4200 8 ай бұрын
Whenever Corey suggest that he could be wrong, know that his real purpose is to prove that he is right!!! His guest was right on point!!! There are 2 types of tongues! One to speak and unknown tongue for the purpose of evangelizing and the other personal edification!!!
@nathanielotu4189
@nathanielotu4189 8 ай бұрын
Which is fine. But why do we come to church to personally edify ourselves?
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 8 ай бұрын
Where are you getting this from ? Scripture doesn't even suggest that there are 2 types of tongues . That's reading something into the scripture because a couple of scriptures are taken out of context . Smh I don't agree with brother Cory on everything but I agree with him on this subject . Those that don't agree are basing it on a wrong understanding of a couple verses in 1st Corinthians 14.
@gwenlucas4200
@gwenlucas4200 8 ай бұрын
​@nathanielotu4189 Actually, I never said that we "come to church" to edify ourselves. Although we are edified when we fellowship with other believers at "church" or wherever we choose to fellowship. I was speaking specifically regarding praying in tongues which can be done at home or Church for edification. ❤
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 8 ай бұрын
@@gwenlucas4200 sister I'm not trying to be sarcastic or ignorant . I'm trying to be as respectful as possible . This is not a heaven or hell issue but it is a misunderstanding leading to a deception issue . Again like I said earlier . There is no scripture where Jesus taught His disciples to pray in tongues or He told them to pray in tongues privately . On the contrary He told His disciples not to repeat things over and over and don't make long prayer because people think they will be heard because of them . Jesus Christ could have easily told them to pray in tongues when the Holy Spirit comes but He didn't . The whole problem is people are taking a couple scriptures out of context based on man made church traditions.
@gwenlucas4200
@gwenlucas4200 8 ай бұрын
​@@kyledavis4040I Cor. 14:4 & 5 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but he who prophesies edifies the church. v5 ....for greater is he that prophesies than he who speaks in tongues except he interprets, that the Church may receive edifying. V2 He that speaks in tongues speak not unto men but to God: for no man understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. When there is no interpreter, the tongue is private between you and God and only you are edified. And there are tongues spoken that are not private for which there is an interpretation that will benefit everyone.
@christianmarshrosey1977
@christianmarshrosey1977 8 ай бұрын
I was in Bible study and we were taught to view 1 Corinthians 14 on its own, independent of chapter 12. We were told to read it on its own to show that the tongues Paul refers to here is different from tongues (human language) in Acts chapter 2. I tried to point out that Chapter 12 is linked to chapter 14 as Apostle was writing one letter. I was shut down, and told to stop twisting scripture. The pastor says the tongues is a heavenly language.
@deangellosaunders
@deangellosaunders 8 ай бұрын
Are those passages really singular? Or does it not apply to “you” , plural. As in to whom it may concern?
@j.how3ll858
@j.how3ll858 7 ай бұрын
“It’s not what we know that saves us, it’s who we know”. Great quote Brother Corey.
@Key-jz7zf
@Key-jz7zf 6 ай бұрын
*incorrect* Once you know Jesus that's acceptance however once someone knows Jesus they then must follow his commandments. In order to follow his commandments we have to read the Scriptures!!!
@lavellebrooks2706
@lavellebrooks2706 6 ай бұрын
It's what we believed..of Him who is truth
@courtneydyer6922
@courtneydyer6922 6 ай бұрын
@@Key-jz7zf Very very true! God says in His word, " My people shall perish for a lack of knowledge.". That knowledge and true wisdom only comes from Reading His word. God says in James 1:22- " Be Ye doers of the word and not hearers only, for you shall deceive you own self.". Very clear God wants us to be doers of His word, to study His word, apply His word daily in our lives. Many people are going to be decieved because without reading His word and having a persoanly daily relationship with Jesus Christ, King God Almighty then how they expect to walk the narrow road and stand at the narrow of gate on judgement day. It is sad just how much Satan and the demons of this world fool people. All we can do is hope and pray people wake up and get serious with Jesus. ✝️👑🙌
@Key-jz7zf
@Key-jz7zf 6 ай бұрын
@courtneydyer6922 You are spot on Courtney!!! Great great great response. To further stress the importance of knowing scripture and not just Jesus name, Matthew 7:22-24. Many so called Christians will be disappointed on that day. For this gentleman to make a statement saying (it's not what we know), is a blasphemous statement and a spirit of rebellion. JOHN 14:15..JESUS made it clear that if we (Love) him then we are to follow his commandments. No one can know Jesus without knowing what Jesus wants from us!!! It is awful the way so many christians rely on( just ) the name!! Yes the name Jesus Christ is powerful, however following his commandments is what will Save us and not just knowing his name. Lazy so called Christians that believe once saved always saved will be the ones saying Lord Lord haven't I prophesied in your name.. Jesus answer will be (Depart from me you workers of iniquity).. Keep reading the Scriptures Courtney it's the only thing that will save us from eternal hell... ❤️🙏🏾
@donaugustine9748
@donaugustine9748 4 ай бұрын
Spot on! Because WHO we know has the truth, has the way, and has the life. But even more importantly than who we know is does He know us❤
@darrylhenderson4573
@darrylhenderson4573 7 ай бұрын
COREY YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF BREAKING THAT DOWN .I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW HE DIDN'T OR COULDN'T RECEIVE IT . I BELIEVE THAT A SEED HAS BEEN PLANTED AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL GIVE THE INCREASE. I TRUELY BELIEVE THAT EVENTUALLY HE WILL SEE THAT YOU WERE 100 PERCENT RIGHT . AMEN
@noreenruff1802
@noreenruff1802 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great conversation. Paul can teach and correct at the same time. If Paul is limited to just responding we miss what the spirit has shared/taught with him. The spirit is its own entity and identity.
@trey04
@trey04 6 ай бұрын
What then does 1 cor 14:22 mean then if tongues are for personal prayer language or even for the church
@TimothyC.84
@TimothyC.84 8 ай бұрын
He said Corey was isolating passages, I disagree. But near the end he started to isolate passages because he couldn’t accept that he was wrong.
@larryhillsong2557
@larryhillsong2557 8 ай бұрын
These people are their own judge and god
@donrandle379
@donrandle379 7 ай бұрын
The reason Paul states in 1 Corinthians 12:1-2 I do not want you to be ignorant, is because of exactly what Corey is doing. He’s saying that people in Corinth were calling Christ accursed, but it seems that’s what some people were telling the Corinthians. Because they didn’t know what they were saying some were saying that they were cursing Christ. But Paul lets them know when they are speaking in a tongue they cannot curse Christ, because the spirit is leading them to speak. Notice that Acts chapt. 2 says they spoke with tongues as the spirit gave them utterance. The Holy Spirit gives the believer utterance, He teaches us what to say in tongues. That’s why it’s called praying in the spirit.
@darnelldavis6707
@darnelldavis6707 5 ай бұрын
First, let me say I really appreciate you. My brother. I am learning so much from just the first couple of videos that I've seen, and my request is. Is there a way that you can go through the Bible book by book and interpret the true meaning of The scriptures, or do you have a class that we could take online ?
@stephenwilkinson3458
@stephenwilkinson3458 6 ай бұрын
The first problem is the Bible being used for this lesson is not a KJV. The second problem is thinking a Christian needs to know/understand Greek in order to know what is being said in the Bible. For example, whenever God wants you to know plural versus singular in the KJV he used Ye (plural) or Thee/Thou (singular). 1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
@catalinak6320
@catalinak6320 8 ай бұрын
even the gift of interpretation can be faked. 29.32
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 8 ай бұрын
Brother Cory I'm only like 14 minutes in and you probably spoke on this later in this video but this brother is taking what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14 completely out of context . It was not a good thing when Paul mentioned someone edifying himself when he speaks in tongues .
@garymiller1875
@garymiller1875 5 ай бұрын
Excellent discourse gentleman, many blessings.
@emmanueltaylor5136
@emmanueltaylor5136 6 ай бұрын
Simple and sweet: Acts 2:1-4 (jews 120 all at the same time), Acts 10: 44-48( gentiles his household and family all at the time), Acts 19:1-7 ( 12 men all at the same time) no interpretation and ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Then we see in 1 Corinthians 14 says, 2 or 3 and 3 is the cut off point AND one at a time. All in the book of Acts EVERY experience was more than 3 people and all at the same time.
@user-qp2tp6mv7b
@user-qp2tp6mv7b 8 ай бұрын
I know of at least one teacher on Christian Radio, who is not Pentecostal, who admitted to have had "ecstatic utterances" during private prayers at home.
@roberta.transparentliving9757
@roberta.transparentliving9757 8 ай бұрын
The word of God is not hard nor difficult to understand in fact it is very simple and straightforward but Cory likes to debate and by the way English is not the problem, it's you brother Cory. No need to be a bible scholar. 😊❤
@randywimberly9055
@randywimberly9055 7 ай бұрын
The Bible says that there are mysteries within the context. So it is hard to understand and The Most High meant it to be hard to understand. Matthew 13:11-16 There are mysteries within the Bible that was given to the apostles. Parables were spoken to everyone else. So it is hard to understand what the Bible is saying if you are one of the ones that Jesus did not reveal it too. People had to be taught again about Jesus. The key word is “again.” You have to first have known of His Word in order to be taught AGAIN! Psalm 147:19-20 He showeth HIS WORD unto Jacob, His states and judgements unto ISRAEL!!! HE HAS NOT DEALT SO WITH ANY OTHER NATION! This may be over some people’s head but I have a question. Did Jacob see Jesus?
@roberta.transparentliving9757
@roberta.transparentliving9757 7 ай бұрын
See, some people have their opinion or how they feel or what has been handed down from generation to generation, but the bible just like God is meant to simply believe and live your life with morals through faith if that makes since. I won't argue about it, and I won't debate it because that is why people are in bad shape in God's world. People are confused and don't know what to believe, so they believe in any doctrine or they don't believe at all. John 20: 29-31 simple.😊
@princessm6355
@princessm6355 7 ай бұрын
If it’s not hard to understand why are there so many different interpretations in the topic? And if Corey is the problem why are there so many other people making discussions out of this topic? Common now. Don’t be rude
@roberta.transparentliving9757
@roberta.transparentliving9757 7 ай бұрын
@princessm6355 I am not being rude, and I will not go back and forth with his followers. I thank God for Jesus Christ, and my salvation doesn't come from man, I am done. Be blessed.
@mford1957
@mford1957 6 ай бұрын
Brother, I have come to many of the same conclusions about scripture just by following what is being spoken about in a passage. Many Christians I speak to about a passage uses the verses out of context, because the church they attend preaches it that way. For instance they will take something that is spoken of in the negative and say it is positive, just to make it fit their belief. When I point out that it is just the opposite of what they are saying simply by ready it in context, they will still deny it. Thank you for taking scripture in context and bringing in the actual Greek to show the meaning of words. It's interesting how you can show that a word has the same meaning in every instance where it is used, and yet it will have a new meaning in just the verse they are looking at. Keep up the good work.
@delandomcwilliams5737
@delandomcwilliams5737 8 ай бұрын
Fruitful convo!! ,🙏🏽
@reo3x573
@reo3x573 8 ай бұрын
I won't say that tongues have stopped, but all tongues I have ever heard were unbiblical and out of order.
@alexandradevonish7144
@alexandradevonish7144 8 ай бұрын
When you pray in the tongues of angels it is the holy spirit which gives utterance because he is spirit and he lives inside of you thats his angelic tongues he prays to the father on our behalf when we do not know what to pray he intercedes for us Brother
@KingJames4life
@KingJames4life 6 ай бұрын
Angels spoke human languages 😂
@richpeeps515
@richpeeps515 6 ай бұрын
What in the world are you talking about? if you have the true gift of speaking in other languages as mentioned in scripture, you'll know that it didn't come from the Angels, but God/Holy Spirit.
@Chloe-gh5mk
@Chloe-gh5mk 2 ай бұрын
TONGUES ARE KNOWN LANGUAGES. GOD SPOKE WITH ABRAHAM AND ISRAEL IN A KNOWN LANGUAGE. THE GIFT OF TONGUES WERE GIVEN TO PROMOTE THE GOSPEL TO PEOPLE SPEAKING DIFFERENT LANGUAGES ALL AROUND THE WORLD. FAKE TONGUES IS NOT FROM GOD FAKE TONGUES IS NOT FROM GOD GROW UP!
@mohawkduda8554
@mohawkduda8554 2 ай бұрын
The Hindu is speaking tongues, and casting out demons, bringing poeple back from the dead. What spirit is doing this in them? Self proclaimed gurus!
@billspencer5929
@billspencer5929 4 ай бұрын
I understand the arguments on both sides. And there’s just a difference in perception of whether an interpreter would be someone who understood the language being spoken, and could interpret it either to themselves or others or whether or not an interpreter is someone who doesn’t speak the language themselves and can interpret it from God. I think it’s interesting that we build our theology of what it is from Paul’s letter to the church that is considered the carnal church that is not operating with a good understanding of the spirit, but has to be rebuked because it is walking according to the flesh in so many areas. Could those verses, and Corinthians also be written from the understanding of the gift being given to validate for unbelievers the validity of the gospel rather than being practicing the way that people who are unbelievers think you’re crazy, which is how it was being used in the Corinthian church. Does it lead to an enhancement of God‘s purposes of pointing to Christ, or is it being used not to point to Christ in the gospel but the point people to seek the power of the Holy Spirit rather than salvation in Christ? Is this not one of the tensions between the two groups today? Is not an emphasis on having the power of the gifts of the spirit and the implementation of them through people on earth, rather than the pointing to salvation from this world and to the kingdom of God through Jesus Christ? It seems when tongues or the other gifts become exalted and sought. after, but the emphasis is really on the gift, the Holy Spirit and power given to people on this earth, rather than exalting the king of kings, who came to deliver us. I understand the tension but I struggle with it. I do believe that God acts in powerful miraculous ways. I also am hesitant because Jesus tells us that he that seeks after a miraculous sign, comes from an adulteress generation that is easily influenced and follows after someone who seems to be able to offer that power whether it’s in line with scripture and God‘s will or not. At least that’s how it seems to me to be what Jesus is saying. I am interested in your thoughts. I realize that this is a huge divide on how many Christians think, even ones who agree on the fundamental truth of salvation.
@Mike-jg2uj
@Mike-jg2uj 5 ай бұрын
Bro. Minor... let me first say that I and all that listen to your videos are truly blessed. You have an extraordinary grasp of the Word and its proper interpretation--- despite the constant push back from those who bend to culture, social pressures and ignorance. Having said that, the young man, I believe you called him Sam, was perfectly correct of his intepretation of the scriptures as it relates to tongues. The passage from Acts at Pentecost WAS NOT TONGUES. What happened at Pentecost was that the Lord enabled each person present there to hear Peter's sermon in their OWN LANGUAGE so that everyone would have the opportunity to be saved. Tongues is an UNKNOWN LANGUAGE. Paul's dissertation concerning Tongues in 1Corinthians emphasizes the utility of it as a spiritual gift. Specifically, what he says stands for the proposition that unless there is someone present to INTEPRET what one is saying in tongues, then it is meaningless to the congregation, who would benefit from a "few words" of prophecy (normal language) than many words in tongues (an unknown language). I commend your guest Sam because he was composed and respectful in his presentation. He never demonstrated any "arrogance" in his correct position. I commend you Bro. Minor for having that guest on your broadcast. I also commend you for the time and study you have committed yourself to so that you may bring to all of us a knowledge of the unadulterated WORD of GOD. Please keep up the good work MY BROTHER.
@bigdave1579
@bigdave1579 8 ай бұрын
It is very difficult for those who believe they have talked on tongues not to read their experience into the text. We should subject our experience to what the text says in its grammatical and historical context. Nevertheless the brother conversing with Corey is a true brother in Christ, no doubt about it. I also appreciate the tone of the conversation. It is extremely cordial as it should be between brothers in Christ.
@bigdave1579
@bigdave1579 8 ай бұрын
@@thetruthchannel349That does not mean it was the thing to do,
@PhotriusPyrelus
@PhotriusPyrelus 8 ай бұрын
@@thetruthchannel349 I'm curious: did any of the not-Paul Apostles have falling outs? Also, where do you get the information that Paul/Peter and Paul/Barnabas has fallings out?
@PhotriusPyrelus
@PhotriusPyrelus 8 ай бұрын
@@thetruthchannel349Very helpful. =-\
@bigdave1579
@bigdave1579 8 ай бұрын
@@thetruthchannel349 What are you talking about? This isn’t a matter of salvation, but one of disagreement. It is possible for two people who know Christ as Savior to have a civil conversation. Nothing looks worse in the eyes of the world than two believers in a public brawl over an issue that is not a matter of essential orthodox Christian doctrine. I understand extreme passion when the cross of Christ is being assaulted or the inerrancy of Scripture etc.Talking on some tongues can be discussed by Christians who disagree apart from it publicly looking like Big Time Westling or the WWE.
@bigdave1579
@bigdave1579 8 ай бұрын
@@thetruthchannel349 Passion can either be controlled or out of control. Take a guess as to which is indicative of the self control produced by the Holy Spirit?
@walkbyfaith2874
@walkbyfaith2874 8 ай бұрын
I agree with the guest.
@gwenlucas4200
@gwenlucas4200 8 ай бұрын
Me too!!❤❤
@Deedee-rb1wi
@Deedee-rb1wi 6 ай бұрын
Me too. Cory was all over the place and with no comprehension or understanding
@PaulineWilliams-mk2zk
@PaulineWilliams-mk2zk 6 ай бұрын
Sam I like your honest answers. Because in the Bible 1 Corinthians 14:13 KJV Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
@albertg63
@albertg63 6 күн бұрын
What I don't understand is that Dr Michael brown already explained all the questions he asked to him in a video earlier on this year. But he still doesn't take correction
@bettybryant2084
@bettybryant2084 8 ай бұрын
Growing up in a Baptist Church I was not exposed to tongues. But in January of 1991 I visited a Pentecostal Church in Chicago. The Pastor and the congregation embraced me and prayed over me. I am from the south. The next morning I read a passage of scripture from Psalms 18 and knelt down to pray. I began to speak in tongues, this went on all day, until after 4 pm in the evening. I had no control it flowed through me. My understanding was unfruitful, it was in the presence of all in the house and I knew it was from God. I never spoke again but in 1995 I had a spiritual experience where I heard the language supernaturally, I still did not understand but my spirit or inner man understood and responded to the command and I had an experience that was so awesome that it is still with me. So yes speaking in 1991 prepared me for what God was going to do in 95. Just because I was in a Baptist Church I never spoke against what I didn't understand.
@ifeifesi
@ifeifesi 8 ай бұрын
Did you not wonder why you didn't receive the gift of tongues in the Baptist Church or does the Holy Spirit who gives that gift not operate in Baptist churches and only in Pentecostal ones?🤔
@falbrofalbro2322
@falbrofalbro2322 8 ай бұрын
​@@ifeifesiJust the same when Jesus couldn't perform much miracles In a particular town.... Faith...you speak faith not gibberish but as the Spirit give utterance.
@christoprighteous8199
@christoprighteous8199 8 ай бұрын
Wasn't a Holy Spirit but a different spirit. Hinduism speak in tongues too you know. You went against scriptures in 1Cor 14 where Paul says not to speak unless there is understanding.
@bettybryant2084
@bettybryant2084 8 ай бұрын
@@ifeifesi I knew why. Unbelief hinders the flow of God. They were word heavy and spirit impoverished, God wanted me to know His Spirit can be embraced as well as His word. Because of that experience I was prepared and recognized phase 2 of what would come in March of 95. I am not confused. That is. not the only thing that I experienced that evening in that Pentecostal church. I experienced a prophetic word . They didn't know me that was my first and last visit. but the Spirit of the Lord had spoken in July of 91 an utterance from Psalms 91 about fear not for I have given my angels charge over thee. I shared it with my husband but put it out of my mind. 6months later when I walked into that church in Chicago the Man of God who was preaching got silent and I didn't know why. He spoke to me, never seen me before or after said, young lady two angels came in with you. It was evident from my posture and facial expression I didn't believe him. Then he asked why was I staring at him in disbelief when The Lord Himself had revealed this to me. My knees got weak because I had heard it and shared it with my husband 6 months earlier. Just because I didn't understand certain things I didn't dismiss them nor did my husband. He said he didn't understand just wait on God He will reveal. God bless
@bettybryant2084
@bettybryant2084 8 ай бұрын
@@christoprighteous8199 Apparently you did not read. I was in the house kneeled down to pray and came up speaking in tongues. I didn't do it it was done unto me and I was under the control of the Spirit from morning to evening. I knew it was of God. If I tried to put a cracker in my mouth He would not allow me to eat. I understand what Paul said but I was not under Paul's control. I was under the control of God. Paul also said that women were to keep silent in the Church but March of 95 I received Divine commission to preach the Gospel. Still fearful because I was in a Baptist Church but God made it unmistakable about his desire for my life so who do I obey? Jesus or Paul?. He led me on a remarkable journey so I would not misunderstand. I heard Bishop Morton say their Bishopric was through Peter's succession. The Lord bypassed Peter and Paul and Commissioned me that's why I stand solidly, not wavering. Even after the death of my husband of 44 years God is still with me
@IamThunderLord
@IamThunderLord 8 ай бұрын
If it was real we could just see it in plain sight and not have to examine and explain it to death.
@certaindisciple1981
@certaindisciple1981 8 ай бұрын
I speak in Tongues and interpret. I understand those passages. They are clear. The mind jumps to all the wrong experiences then read into that makes it seem unclear. Example, we don't teach people we lead people in Tongues. One key is that Interpretation is interpretation and not translation. Can I get a hearing. I will put up a video this weekend by 12/11/23. I'm not apart of the "Spirit and Truth" here on KZfaq but they have it correct in their teaching also. They have a 4 part series. In our Church it take about 30 hours just to make sure people understand the scriptures on being born again and the gift of holy spirit then tongues is very clear. It is hard to do equations without understand your time table.
@jeprodigalson792
@jeprodigalson792 8 ай бұрын
@hayeschrist1 yes speaking tongues of different languages for the purpose of delivering he gospel after dying on the cross for us.
@jaiwills6867
@jaiwills6867 8 ай бұрын
@hayeschrist1 exactly, these people don't believe. if they read the book of Mark and Matthew, they would get the understanding of how important having faith is to God.
@Octavius634
@Octavius634 8 ай бұрын
John 8:43-44
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 8 ай бұрын
I've asked a lot of ppl why do they need to speak gibberish instead of clear language? I also ask how do tongues help anyone or help prayer? If ppl say it helps get prayers answered, that means they believe they can use special words to get God to answer when God already knows. The truth is that it doesn't help anyone, but does make people feel like its proof of their relationship with God or proof they have the spirit. Almost like they need a sign or physical proof of God. Ive never gotten a single answer that was clear. They'll just say "it edifies me" and then they'll tell me I don't know God like they do or attack me in some other way Tongues does accomplish one thing and thats to chase new believers away or cause them to chase nonsense
@henryparker3788
@henryparker3788 7 ай бұрын
Isn't it said somewhere in the Bible, that you must not speal in toungue unless there is somewhere there to interprete what is been said?
@DrHesterSpeaks
@DrHesterSpeaks 4 ай бұрын
What an excellent example of communication and respect for the Word of God and each other.
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 8 ай бұрын
Honestly without even looking up the root word you can clearly see that Paul means to build up others in the body . The context of the chapter and previous chapters clearly show that it's talking about building up others . All you got to do is go to 1 Corinthians 1 , it lays the context of the chapters to come .
@BEABEREAN10
@BEABEREAN10 8 ай бұрын
But you can't build up others unless you too are built up. Jesus didn't go out in his ministry until he was endued with power AND he continually went back to the father privately to pray and fast to be strengthened for more ministry (I'm not saying he prayed in tongues btw)
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 8 ай бұрын
@@BEABEREAN10 that's not necessarily true all the time but if that was the case thats not the issue here . The issue is what is Paul talking about ? Look at the whole chapter . Chapter 14 literally says tongues are a sign to unbelievers not believers . So like I said people read a couple of verses and don't read the whole thing to see the context .
@studygodsword5937
@studygodsword5937 7 ай бұрын
@@kyledavis4040 1 Cor 14:1-19 are contrasting the gifts of the Spirit with prayer in tongues, the only verses about "prayer in tongues" are *1 Cor 14:2, 14-15, 18,* 2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands [him]; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. ... 14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is [the conclusion] then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. ... 18 I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all;
@kyledavis4040
@kyledavis4040 7 ай бұрын
@@studygodsword5937 no it's not at all . He's basically telling them there is no benefit to speaking in tongues because you don't understand what you are saying . When he says only God knows what you are saying and you are edifying yourself , it's not a good thing . Read the whole chapter and why you are at it read the chapters leading up to chapter 14 . In chapter 14 Paul literally says tongues is not a sign to believers but to unbelievers .
@studygodsword5937
@studygodsword5937 7 ай бұрын
@@kyledavis4040 You can argue against the word if you want, but it is extremely foolish ! but if you think the word is wrong, can you tell me why ???
@vitalismbanda
@vitalismbanda 7 ай бұрын
Brother Corey, I love you. Never doubt that. I also respect you and know that this is your channel that I love and would like it to grow from glory to glory, as well as wanting what is best for you and everyone here. Please stop the arguments and seek the power to speak in tongues - your divine prayer language that can enable you to pray without ceasing. If you don't speak in tongues, let it be a matter of when you will have it by design & promise rather than thinking it is for others and not for you. Just get rid of all sin in your life including emotional sin. Ensure also you forgive everyone and repent from all involvement in ocult. This will make you a candidate even before baptism in water! When you seek the filling, you must open your mouth to speak. While you wait for it to happen - just keep on saying, "thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus..." You will be filled with the Holy Spirit with the sign of speaking in tongues. When it happens to you, KEEP the EXPERIENCE. 1Cor.12.7 - But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: The gloried Jesus Christ, seated at the right hand of the Father, is the baptizer resulting in the experience. To qualify you need to come to a place of 100% repentance - let God control every area of your life. How long do you think you can pray with understanding, before you run out of words?? When you get born-again you receive the Holy Spirit. Don't stop there please! Baptism in the Holy Spirit always results in speaking in tongues. It is for everyone who believes and every Christian's divine inheritance. Praying in the spirit is praying in tongues in this context praying in tongues is a prayer that needs no interpretation as you speak divine mysteries to God. The devil and self are kept out of such prayer. Any brother or sister in Christ (Christian) who does not yet speak in tongues should be walking towards tongues and not away. 1Cor.14.2 - For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. I suggest listening to more teachings on babtizm in the Holy Spirit, especially from those who have the experience, as it is a gateway to tremendous power of the age to come. You have to speak in tongues to know the power. When you come to the experience of speaking in tongues, the conversation and arguments stop. We all speak to be heard. God will give you the discernment of when to speak in tongues. The experience is of tremendous help in your prayer closet to enable you get more power and also pray for long hours. One can pray for 24 hrs without ceasing! I think that is amazing. Please don't run away from tongues. It is the showstopper of the whole Christian salvation experience, according to me. The times when you need interpretation is when 1. the tongues spoken is a prophesy (to edify an individual or a congregation or 2, the tongues spoken is diverse tongues equally to edify an individual, a group or a congregation. Please don't take offense at my comment. I do not mean to take away anything from anyone but rather add that you may move forward in your experience as a Christian. Paul spoke with tongues. 2 cor 6:16 1 John 4:4 John 17 Jesus prayed for believers Mark 16 Acts 2 Acts 11 I cor 3 :16 spirit dwells with us 1 cor 6:19 2 cor 6:16 Acts 8; 5 1 cor 14:18 1 cor 12:7 John 14:16'17 Romans 8:20 25 1Cor.14.39 - Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. -- (NKJV) God bless all.
@BradfordDobson-lu6id
@BradfordDobson-lu6id 7 ай бұрын
What is 100% repentance?
@icemanred
@icemanred 6 ай бұрын
Brother, your entire post is based on a wrong interpretation of the texts. The Bible does not instruct us seek any power to speak in tongues as you have stated. You are making tongues some sort of superior gift. Paul even stated that the gift of prophecy is greater. Also, scripture says that it is the Holy Spirit that determines the distribution of the gifts and the measure of the gifts. There is nowhere in scripture where we are encouraged to seek the gift of speaking in tongues. We are called to pursue love and to earnestly desire the gifts of the Spirit. The gifts of tongues is for the spreading of the gospel as it was done in scripture.
@chrisnicastro9554
@chrisnicastro9554 6 ай бұрын
Speaking in tongues will not get you into Heaven ,it was for a certain time, People today are not really speaking in tongues Galations 5:22-23 Paul talks about the fruit of the Spirit describing if you have the Holy Spirit what it will produce , meaning if you are born again the Spirit will manifest itself in this way , speaking in an unknown tongue is not a fruit of the spirit ,it was a gift for a certain time ,if you are born again you are a new creature in Christ, if any man be in Christ he is a new creature ,again doesnt mention anything about tongues
@digginginwithtamara1414
@digginginwithtamara1414 5 ай бұрын
I pray that God will open your eyes to the spirit that makes you think it is of HIM. God is not the author of confusion and if you don't know what you are saying, then it is confusion. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which CANNOT BE UTTERED. [Romans 8:26 KJV]
@chrisnicastro9554
@chrisnicastro9554 5 ай бұрын
Rom 8:26 ha nothing to do with speaking in an unknown tongue Get truly born again and you wont have to worry about speaking in an unknown tongue
@ewheel1629
@ewheel1629 7 ай бұрын
Interesting dialogue and discussion It seems to me that we can get a lot of things right or a lot of things wrong when we follow the examples that have been set before us … as it pertains to what we do in our churches …when we go to church I think a lot of what we do is denomination oriented….
@dustinwetten9632
@dustinwetten9632 13 күн бұрын
I finally finished the whole video lol. I just want to say that you guys both did a wonderful job making your point clear. Also like that you both maintained your cool and were very respectful of one another. Corey, you crack me up 🤣. "Passing out tacks in tongues". I definitely agree with what you were saying more than what Sam was. My experience was that when I spoke in tongues it never felt right. After a while I really started diving into the gifts and soon realized I was being convicted. I don't speak in "tongues" anymore. In my opinion it's unbiblical and dangerous. But to each their own. God bless you both
@redwine65
@redwine65 8 ай бұрын
the signed gifts ended when the church was established among the gentiles & the canon is closed
@BEABEREAN10
@BEABEREAN10 8 ай бұрын
So that is two different events at very different times....so which one is it?
@redwine65
@redwine65 8 ай бұрын
@@BEABEREAN10 prophacy (another signed gift) also ended..thus we don't add to scripture
@RabbiMurray
@RabbiMurray 8 ай бұрын
Amen
@studygodsword5937
@studygodsword5937 7 ай бұрын
@@redwine65 .
@studygodsword5937
@studygodsword5937 7 ай бұрын
@@redwine65 "the signed gifts ended when the church was established among the gentiles & the canon is closed" To give me chapter and verse, you would also be saying that knowledge has also passed away ! *THE SAME VERSE !* YOU MIGHT WANT TO STICK TO THE WORD !
@kkyle9726
@kkyle9726 7 ай бұрын
Man this tongue deception is really a strong hold for a lot of people. How this brother kept trying to find a loop hole in the scripture to justify speaking in tongues gave me a headache. And I use to be one who thought I spoke in tongue.
@laurencejohnson8573
@laurencejohnson8573 7 ай бұрын
Come on man Corey was wrong
@ozdoublelife
@ozdoublelife 7 ай бұрын
I was deceived as well for 20 years. Not here to argue or debate. It was simply a man made stronghold and it messed me up. I started reading the scriptures in its entirety, no cherry picking.
@kkyle9726
@kkyle9726 7 ай бұрын
@@ozdoublelife I'm glad you were able to get free "also" my brother. Once you learn how to accurately study God's Word, it's truly life changing and you begin to see how often we make things up that the Bible never intended. But you also see the beauty of God of who He is and what He desires.
@studygodsword5937
@studygodsword5937 7 ай бұрын
@@kkyle9726 1 Cor 14:1-19 are contrasting the gifts of the Spirit with prayer in tongues, the only verses about "prayer in tongues" are *1 Cor 14:2, 14-15, 18,* 2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands [him]; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. ... 14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is [the conclusion] then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. ... 18 I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; ...
@kkyle9726
@kkyle9726 7 ай бұрын
@@studygodsword5937 so what is your point you are implying?
@danielbond41
@danielbond41 6 ай бұрын
I think the phrase speaking in the unknown as the spirit gives utterance needs speaking on
@miketaylor9969
@miketaylor9969 3 ай бұрын
I studied myself out of the Pentecostal interpretation of tongues also, as other false doctrine, you did a very good job sir The Holy Spirit was authenticating the birth of the Church with signs and miracles as he also authenticated his Apostle’s etc.
@HotStrings22
@HotStrings22 8 ай бұрын
he who speaks in an unknown language speaks mysteries to god
@kobytieth8518
@kobytieth8518 8 ай бұрын
Dont forget- There are tongues of men, known and unknown depending on the hearer But most importantly is "tongues of angels" in 1 cor 13:1 which are tongues that are completely unknown to any man And 1 Cor 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for NO MAN understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. And in context of this unknown tongue: 1 Cor 14:4 “He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church" I DO feel edified when I pray in private in tongues to God! Tongues are mostly meant for our personal prayer life "Forbid not to speak in tongues " I agree we don't seem to have the 9 manifestations of the Spirit miracles, tongues, interpretation, healings, prophecy, ect like the early church did (1 Cor 12:8-10) The early church had these on command! But we can still pray for these on His command and amen He still works miracles ! Jesus prayed a lot privately to the Father to edify himself!
@bernardhenderson1146
@bernardhenderson1146 7 ай бұрын
AMPC He who speaks in a [strange] tongue edifies and improves himself, but he who prophesies [interpreting the divine will and purpose and teaching with inspiration] edifies and improves the church and promotes growth [in Christian wisdom, piety, holiness, and happiness].
@FathomthatwithDeeGreen
@FathomthatwithDeeGreen 5 ай бұрын
It’s fine to not understand if one has the gift of having a “spiritual” tongue, and is speaking to God, not in context of edifying the body, is totally fine. The “spirit” and God knows and understands the dialogue… (seems like this conversation could have been summed up in an hour. No pun intended, all love as I am still growing in maturity myself.) May GOD continue to keep both you brothers!🙏🏽💚💪🏽🙌🏽
@roberta.transparentliving9757
@roberta.transparentliving9757 8 ай бұрын
I've witnessed in the building people who claim to interpret what someone was saying while speaking in so called tongues in the spirit. It has been handed down from generation to generation in error.
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@foxydlao264
@foxydlao264 8 ай бұрын
1Corinthians 14 verse 14-15 is the answer. It does not make any sense speaking in tongues and you have no idea what is being said….
@BEABEREAN10
@BEABEREAN10 8 ай бұрын
Except that exactly what Paul says.....if you under what you are saying then you aren't speaking in tongues. If you don't understand, then you are speaking in tongues AND YOU SHOULD PRAY THAT YOU'D INTERPRET. But just because an interpretation doesn't come doesn't mean it's false
@Andrewmanning2023
@Andrewmanning2023 8 ай бұрын
@@BEABEREAN10If you don’t understand then you are speaking in tongues? How stupid and ignorant. Paul just said he doesn’t want you to be ignorant, but you say if you are ignorant then that is okay? Wow!
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 8 ай бұрын
I agree foxy. Its the only thing in the Bible that doesn't make any sense and many people who practice it are too proud to admit that it does nothing and isnt necessary
@BEABEREAN10
@BEABEREAN10 8 ай бұрын
@@cowel8734 so you really believe that Paul knew what he was saying when he spoke in tongues? If that's the case then why did God also give us the gift of interpretation if we automatically know what we're saying in tongues? Why does Paul say if there be no interpreter in Ch 14 if you say that we should always understand what is being said.
@foxydlao264
@foxydlao264 8 ай бұрын
@@cowel8734 Amen 🙏
@edwardberry4466
@edwardberry4466 8 ай бұрын
Paul answer the question why speak in tongues among each other when you can speak your nature language that can be understood And I believe this is why Paul was addressing this issue. In other words why speak in your heavenly language among each other when you can speak what is understood.
@ChildOfGod0621
@ChildOfGod0621 7 ай бұрын
I’ve always viewed the scripture on edifying was for others but I do see where Bro Sam is coming from when he says to build up yourself to be a benefit to the body. To me it’s similar to Matthew 7:3-5 get the log out of your eye so you’ll be better able to get the speck out of your brother’s eye. BUT, if we say we are to edify or build up ourself, then that could open up the door to pride and becoming boastful. On the contrary, we have to humble ourselves in order to build up others.
@Boutikfy_Shop
@Boutikfy_Shop 8 ай бұрын
Wait a minute! Hold the press! Corey Minor, you know that in the English language, the word ‘You’ can be used in the singular or the plural form; depending on the context Corey Minor….stop being sneaky brother.
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 8 ай бұрын
In KJV YOU, YE is plural Thou, thy, is singular
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 8 ай бұрын
English is the only language who got rid of you singular
@smartchristians
@smartchristians 8 ай бұрын
The word ἑαυτοὺς is the plural accusative. the ὺς ending makes it clear the "you" is plural.
@knit-sewdelight8664
@knit-sewdelight8664 5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you don’t have the revelation of the Holy Spirit, opening the scriptures to you. Anyone sees it clearly. speaking in tongues is real…..
@personalityexpertise820
@personalityexpertise820 7 ай бұрын
Good job doing this, keeping it real is great!
@claudejones9061
@claudejones9061 6 ай бұрын
Speaking in tongues as a born again believer is different than the gift of tongues spoken about in Corinthians. The gift of tongues is primarily for the body. Praying in tongues as a born again believer is for the believer, build yourself up by praying in the Holy Ghost. I will pray in the Spirit and I will pray with the understanding ALSO. Praying with the understanding is the ADDITIONAL prayer which makes praying in the Holy Ghost the more powerful and effective than the (also) prayer.
@michelemcintyre9749
@michelemcintyre9749 8 ай бұрын
Wow, he looks angry and defensive right off the bat.
@Eldertalk
@Eldertalk 3 ай бұрын
There is a lot of confusion in this discussion. God doesn't give you the spirit of confusion, so what is going on here? Think about it.
@NixonKeith-es1bb
@NixonKeith-es1bb Ай бұрын
I AGREE 👍
@user-qp2bv8pi4f
@user-qp2bv8pi4f 6 ай бұрын
Love this conversation, please have more
@EmanuelPerez-it6ky
@EmanuelPerez-it6ky 6 ай бұрын
Gift of healing is mostly benefits the sick that is being healed but, in a general way others can gain in faith by the testimony of witnessing the healing. This generally is 2 forms of benefit to having God's spiritual gifts, each person benefits individual but, also as a group.
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