Smash But Attacks Do Canon Damage

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music used:
Check Mii Out Channel - Submission Plaza Theme
Pokemon Sun & Moon Gladion Battle Music
The 25th Hour - Schlatt Crossing
Pokemon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire - Zinnia Battle theme
Pokemon B2 W2 - Champion Iris Battle Music
Corn Dog - Persona Q
Kass' Theme - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Pokemon Diamond, Pearl & Platinum - Team Galactic Boss Battle Music
Pokemon Sun & Moon Gladion Battle Music (again)
The 25th Hour - Schlatt Crossing (again)
Xenoblade Chronicles Medley - Xenoblade Chronicles
The 25th Hour - Schlatt Crossing (again)
Rainbow Road - Mario Kart Wii
Guile Stage - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
The 25th Hour - Schlatt Crossing (again)
Ramen Bowl - Smash Ultimate OST
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Music - Revenge of the Enemy
Persona Q2 New Cinema Labyrinth - Invitation to Freedom
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@TCNick3 Жыл бұрын

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@ethernasia Жыл бұрын

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@Prideium9001 Жыл бұрын

Oh god, i just imagined Sepiroth’s final attack absolutely destroying everyone, but mario reflects it with a cape while luigi tanks

@kdlsimondistefan47 Жыл бұрын

The only problem is that iirc it does 90% of current HP or something like that

@LoyaLPikmin Жыл бұрын

HAVE YOU SEEN MARIO AND LUIGI RPG’S STATS AT LEVEL 50?!?!?!?!

@kdlsimondistefan47 Жыл бұрын

@@LoyaLPikmin i'm just saying that it doesn't kill either way

@adrianschaeuffler7513 Жыл бұрын

@@LoyaLPikmin i'm pretty sure stats don't matter, sephiroth's supernova never kills no matter how low or high your level is, but it does deal 90% damage and inflicts ailments no mattet what you do

@letsplaytodayusa Жыл бұрын

Supernova is actually just a terrible attack that I hate; it's so long, so drawn out, takes forever...and never kills, it literally does a percentage of the HP remaining.

@aquarios7851 Жыл бұрын

The fun thing about the way Pokémon damage is dealt, is there are min roll and max rolls for how much damage an attack can do. So one turn a move can deal 20% HP, and next move can deal 25%, not to mention crits

@blazekicknchicken Жыл бұрын

Video released: 4 minutes ago Comment : 1 day ago *Visible Confusion*

@salamder1270 Жыл бұрын

Yeah my brain is wondering of how this happened too

@terminawarfrance6104 Жыл бұрын

me too

@SRInfern0 Жыл бұрын

@@salamder1270 early releases for patreon supporters

@connormcnulty6377 Жыл бұрын

Oh just wait until the Fire Emblem crits get added. 12% chance for 3x the damage.

@AngryBones69 Жыл бұрын

If Ness' PK flash did it's canon power, it would almost always instakill, and if it doesn't do that, it will stun.

@chaz2632 Жыл бұрын

Finally, someone who knows

@RighteousBisonEnjoyer 9 ай бұрын

Nah rockin omega and paralyses would destroy

@AltF4NOW 8 ай бұрын

He doesnt have rockin in smash

@turtlefalcon5546 8 ай бұрын

@@AltF4NOWHonestly, they should have given him rockin as one of his specials. Idk which one they would get rid of but it feels weird that he doesn’t have his signature attack

@AltF4NOW 8 ай бұрын

@@turtlefalcon5546 well im pretty sure rockin is the airal specials but i dont think those count

@neondouble_ Жыл бұрын

Mythra's Lightning Buster? I NEED to see that canonically. In post game each hit does a consistent 150,000 against normal enemies

@namelessusername4267 Жыл бұрын

I was actually waiting for the Shulk vs Aegis match

@marigoldzephyrnio3647 Жыл бұрын

ray of punishment and chroma dust on their way to one shot

@Gamer-zg2wb Жыл бұрын

They put them at lvl 50 tho

@BiscuitisCool 11 ай бұрын

I’m a pokemon guy you guys speak gibberish to me.

@anthonynguyen1289 10 ай бұрын

Thing is they would do it based on an unmodified Mythra meaning no aux cores or chips. As well as probably no investment in the skill trees. This will be a very unoptimal Mythra at level 50. Should still do enough damage to ko consistently in Smash on the first or second hit, but I’m not sure how strong it is since I’ve never seen how damage is calculated in Xenoblade 2. Also I don’t know if Mythra deals a different amount of damage between Rex using her and Mythra being playable in Torna.

@SillySausage263 Жыл бұрын

Why does the editing go so insane in this video?!?! Editor did an amazing job!

@amircooljac5053 Жыл бұрын

@Priincipal-pe9mp Жыл бұрын

The editing is actually godlike

@silvergrim5298 Жыл бұрын

100%

@squidkid6442 Жыл бұрын

I KNOW I was just about to comment that

@hioman Жыл бұрын

It says faded shade in the description

@clioneclione1897 Жыл бұрын

fun fact, a lot of kirby's moves actually have canonical damage numbers. In Return to Dreamland, there's a boss called Metal General who displays how much damage they take when they get hit. The damage shown is multiplied by ten and assigned a random number for the final digit (ie. an attack that does 40 damage, such as Kirby's down B, would show as dealing anywhere from 401 to 409 damage.) His up B does 50 damage across 3 hits. (7, 8 and 35) Even some of his normals have canonical damage, like his dash attack (20), up throw (50!) and rapid jab. (4 per hit)

@ultlifeform Жыл бұрын

This can also be seen in Kirby Super Star, with the RPG boss.

@AzumarillConGafasBv Жыл бұрын

@@ultlifeform Computer Virus displays weak numbers compared to Metal General

@ultlifeform Жыл бұрын

@@AzumarillConGafasBv that maybe true, but it’s still another source, which could be useful for moves taken from copy abilities that aren’t in Return to Dreamland, but are in Super Star, like forward throw and down throw (Suplex), and his trip recovery attack (Yo-yo). Plus, it’s just another example to refute the video’s claim that their are no canon numerical values for Kirby.

@burtieeee9827 Жыл бұрын

I read that as 50 factorial

@Coolmar15 Жыл бұрын

It's the same thing for the Security Force midboss in Planet Robobot (cause they're based on Metal General), so useful for abilities that are in PR but not in RtD.

@SydwasheretheIII Жыл бұрын

Why did Kirby only have 1 “canonical” move, when a ton of its moves are canonical? And you can absolutely tell what their power is in-game. I’m sure the health value of bosses in Kirby are known

@axl256gamesx7 10 ай бұрын

Literally they made a smash form in some games, so kirby can have the smash moveset in some of his games Take the damage that that form deals on each attack and just copy paste it lol

@sanstheskeelaton3337 10 ай бұрын

the special attacks are hard coded into the game so they couldn't be changed

@mohawkmaster5728 10 ай бұрын

@@axl256gamesx7Yeah, I don't see why they completely ignored his literal Smash ability when it has all the data for 70% of his attacks

@CA64. 7 ай бұрын

I am aware I'm 5 month late for this but here are the abilities that I'm sure should have been amplified or nerfed for kirby (yes I looked at the Kirby abilities) Dash attack- Burning ability Foward B- Hammer ability Down B- Rock ability (technically) Possibly but probably not: Down/Side A- kick (if crouched in some Kirby games, Kirby will do a slide kick). And for those who talked about the Smash ability in a Kirby game, yes there is one in Kirby and the land of mirrors (I know it has mirror in it or smtn) if you inhale master hand or two of the sleepy bois at the same time you get that smash ability and with that you get: Kirby basic attack, Up B, Air neutral, Hammer, and Down B (I think he dose have down B?)

@VestedUTuber 6 ай бұрын

@@CA64. You missed a couple. Jab - Fighter (Vulcan Jab) Forward Throw - Suplex (Rock Drop) Back Throw - Backdrop Up Throw - Ninja (Air Drop) Down Throw - Suplex (Fury Stomp), Beetle (Fury Stomp) Floor Attack (Trip) - Yoyo (Breakdance Spin) Final Smash - Should be obvious what this is.

@cheese_vviz Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Since every move in MegaMan's moveset is named and was in a past game, he would have been the perfect character for this mod. But. He's MegaMan.

@Movin2DBiit 6 ай бұрын

In what few Collections or Manuals that DO talk about his Damage or ATK, his stronger moves when shot by their respective Robomasters do, like. 5-7 damage on average, his stronger ones probably capping out at 14 if you're lucky.

@ASNS117Zero 6 ай бұрын

Wild when you think about the fact that those lemons are actually balls of plasma flying faster than bullets from real guns. But, you know, game mechanics. lol

@boa_firebrand 4 ай бұрын

@@ASNS117Zero aren't they described as compressed solar energy? which sounds like plasma but all the descriptions don't quite treat it as such.

@calebhoward6775 Жыл бұрын

What’s funny is that Kirby does have number values on his Smash moveset in Robobot. For example, up throw would’ve done 49% and stone 38%. Even changing back from stone would do 19%

@icykuikinu300 Жыл бұрын

Yeah like, I think kirby only has like 5 or 6 moves that wouldn't get changed, and they're all his tilts, his dair, his dsmash and potentially his Bair Inhale - every kirby game Up b - Final Cutter (Cutter) from super star Side b - Hammer Flip (Hammer) from super star (though it'd probably function how it does in star allies and Forgotten Land) Down b - Stone from adventure Jab - Vulcan Jab and Smash Punch (Fighter) from super star Dash attack - Burning from adventure Fsmash - Spin Kick (Fighter) from super star USmash & Uair - Moon Somersault Kick (Fighter) from deturn to dreamland Fair - Spin Kick (Fighter) from return to dreamland Bair - *potentially* Double Kick (Fighter) from return to dreamland Up throw - Air Drop (Ninja) from super star Forward, Back, Down throws - Pile Driver, Big Suplex, Fury Stomp respectively (Suplex) from super star To my knowledge, his up, down, and side tilts, Down smash, and down air don't have clear references, I think

@anthonyrogers2185 Жыл бұрын

Though isn’t that technically using copy abilities? So technically doesn’t count unless you suck someone?

@bedoop3870 Жыл бұрын

there's also the Computer Virus boss fight in superstar/ultra so you could get the numbers for a lot of kirby's melee hits too since they're mostly derived from Fighter and Suplex (ontop of Fighter being in robobot too)

@calebhoward6775 Жыл бұрын

@@bedoop3870 right Suplex hits like a truck. F-throw and B-throw does 70 damage. D-throw does 50 *per hit*

@CurlyChop Жыл бұрын

@@calebhoward6775 we have canon truck Kirby to also see how much damage "being hit by a truck" should do!

@Fierce_Paladin Жыл бұрын

Bro the editing on this video is so clean! Mad Respect to the editor.

@Fierce_Paladin Жыл бұрын

@Chikin nugit The editor's name is actually in the description, Its FadedShade!

@wywy29092 Жыл бұрын

@nocontext400 Жыл бұрын

there is such a thing as OVER editing tho, not saying this video did that but it came close to it lol

@indigo_sirgaming Жыл бұрын

I was gonna say that too, I love the editing on this

@ashleighnolle5753 11 ай бұрын

Yeah

@xmgaming2444 Жыл бұрын

I don't know how much of the mario & luigi RPG moves could've been translated, but it would've been funny if you did like 6 damage off of a footstool since the basic "jump on an enemy's head" is the default attack in those games

@N12015 Жыл бұрын

Or made Mario's F-Smash the fire hand. Still don't have Idea how damage works in Mario& Luigi though despite having played 3 of those, only noticed that level affects way more than in Pokemon.

@potatoe972 10 ай бұрын

Nah a footstool would do a solid 200

@VestedUTuber 6 ай бұрын

It'd be difficult to actually work that out, as each Mario & Luigi game has completely different stat calculations - even the remakes. Those games had power creep issues.

@xmgaming2444 6 ай бұрын

@@VestedUTuber Never even thought of that lol, I only played the earlier ones

@calvinball8 Жыл бұрын

I think the reason psychic can grab from anywhere is because it has 100% accuracy

@KaizerHuter 5 ай бұрын

I didn't see Shadow Ball auto-hitting anyone though...

@yamatanooroshikirin4001 4 ай бұрын

@@KaizerHuter Yeah, I don't see why Psychic hits you from anywhere either when taking this into consideration. In Pokemon, "guaranteed to hit" and "100% accuracy" are two different things (100% accuracy means that the move can still miss if accuracy is debuffed or the target's evasion is boosted, and technically in gen 1 every 100% accuracy move had a 1/256 chance to miss because of spaghetti code)

@claudevonrunningman Жыл бұрын

Kirby actually does have huge numerical damage on his special moves in his games. You can only see it against one boss in Return to Dreamland, though

@AzumarillConGafasBv Жыл бұрын

In Planet Robobot and Super Star/Super Star Ultra you can see numerical damage too

@N12015 Жыл бұрын

@@AzumarillConGafasBv And Luckily for everyone the damage output in Super Star and the 2.5D Kirby trilogy is mostly consistent, so no necessity of fancy mechanics, just paper, pencil and a boss who shows damage to the player.

@plebulus Жыл бұрын

How much is it?

@PeDIRL 11 ай бұрын

metal general actually modifies the correct numerical damage, wikirby should have more info

@GamingEelektross 11 ай бұрын

iirc Metal General takes the actual damage number, multiplies it by 10, then makes the last digit a random number.

@Megapig9001 Жыл бұрын

I realized immediately what Kirby's "one changed move" was and was just waiting to see it. Did not disappoint lmao

@fangzgaming5510 Жыл бұрын

Same my guy and laughed when Poppt1 didn't know

@kirimusse Жыл бұрын

I'm disappointed in myself that I thought of Hammer first; I guess that's what True Arena grinding does to a person.

@CurlyChop Жыл бұрын

@@kirimusse I honestly thought that hammer was going to be busted too...

@spgettiboi3370 Жыл бұрын

@@kirimusse i thought it was going to be slide for some reason

@ThundagaT2 Жыл бұрын

@@CurlyChop Honestly it should have been crazy too considering charged Hammer Flip is one of the strongest moves in every Kirby game

@squiddler7731 10 ай бұрын

14:57 was confused for a sec, but then I remembered how ARMs elemental damage worked. Each arm had an elemental effect accociated with it when charged, and the fire element ram ram came with was just extra damage and knockback. But Megawatt meanwhile had electric, which basically left you completely disabled and wide open to any follow-up attack the opponent chooses. So if you want it to have it's true canon power, just make it stun for 1.5 seconds instead of having knockback and there you go

@SchnookieC Жыл бұрын

Jigglypuff with healing rest would be an interesting change for the character but honestly she deserves some actual fairy stuff

@RazielSoulshadow 5 ай бұрын

I'm just saddened they never used Rollout

@derachpitchal9000 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Shulk’s side smash and Cloud’s F-air, while not named in Smash, are noticeably similar to Slit Edge and Braver in their respective games

@hubbleworks7872 Жыл бұрын

Fr that’s what I was gonna say, in this mod it should do like 1700-ish damage and also inflict some sort of poison effect bc it inflicts bleed in xc

@itsmwambintime4254 Жыл бұрын

@@hubbleworks7872 Slit edge inflicts phys def down in xc1 and bleed in xc3 fr

@toomayps214 Жыл бұрын

@@hubbleworks7872 you might be thinking of gale slash, which is used by Dunban

@hubbleworks7872 Жыл бұрын

@@itsmwambintime4254 oh Fr I forgot my b

@RotaAbyssian Жыл бұрын

In terms of Cloud, they fused Climhazzard and Braver together. His up B is Climhazzard on the way up, and Braver on the way down.

@braidonsaelens5174 Жыл бұрын

The editing here went CRAZY. Whoever did this should be proud af

@dolphin-studio Жыл бұрын

proud? bro how can you say this is good, when I can barely watch the match with all that zoom in ?

@braidonsaelens5174 Жыл бұрын

@@dolphin-studio Damn that’s crazy watch someone else bozo

@nguyen5762 10 ай бұрын

@@dolphin-studio Oh shut it

@fiendfi7119 Жыл бұрын

17:10 inklings have 100 health in splatoon, which is close to what you'd expect in smash. however, most weapons are made to kill in one interaction so I expect most attacks to kill at 0. edit: yep

@ultlifeform Жыл бұрын

I don't know it's in any of the Smash tips or whatever in the game, but Shulk's forward smash is a clear reference to his Art "Slit Edge," and should be doing similarly insane damage. It's the exact same animation.

@gustypartizanne5123 Жыл бұрын

17:30 You know, when I saw Kirby, I thought he would have his damage up to how much damage he dealt to those like Computer Virus from Super Star or Metal General in Return to Dreamland sense that shows how much damage each does, not just inhale, feels like a missed opportunity

@therealchaosguy Жыл бұрын

Yea since his Smash moveset IS in Robobot/RTD

@NewSoupWiiHii Жыл бұрын

@@therealchaosguy its not in RTD...

@therealchaosguy Жыл бұрын

@@NewSoupWiiHii Do you not know what “/“ means? It’s and *or* that second thing, as in, it’s either in both or one

@connorburris4846 Жыл бұрын

@@NewSoupWiiHii Man never found the Hal Rooms

@style3244 Жыл бұрын

in kirby clash it goes to the 100ks so it doesnt matter

@ExpandDongMan Жыл бұрын

This is such a great concept to showcase and I love the channel for doing things like this! Hats off to the editor and modder for making it all come together!

@user-uf8xd3ve2v Ай бұрын

He asked you to say that, didn’t he

@Leijonaat 20 күн бұрын

You must expand the dong man everyone!

@claywilliams7579 Жыл бұрын

Actually, thunder jolt was not made up by Sakurai, but rather is a move in pokmon TCG, so you PROBABLY could've figured out its power and ran it through the damage calculator

@evernewb2073 Жыл бұрын

nice "um, Actually" there.

@Velvetfr0g 10 ай бұрын

Wait...DOES THIS MEAN LINK'S FINAL SMASH IS AN INSTA KILL?

@danknados Ай бұрын

should be yes as ancient arrows 1 shot all enemies who aren't bosses, including link.

@anintendolover8416 Жыл бұрын

The editing as you showcase the certain moves like quick attack was so good!

@Agefonduge Жыл бұрын

Nick's face when Poppt isn't realizing which Kirby's move is changed is awesome

@raisylvaine8398 Жыл бұрын

11:38 I will argue that Shulk’s side smash is based on his Art Slit Edge, based purely on the animation. It’s not very powerful compared to Back or Air Slash but it reduces enemy defense.

@Fenrisviivii04 Жыл бұрын

11:58 technically that should of only done 1 damage since in Xenoblade, Monado shield makes it so any signature move only does 1 damage to Shulk. Since Finishing touch is Cloud's signature move, that should of only done 1 damage to Shulk lmao

@WarrenValion Жыл бұрын

Finishing Touch only does 3.125 damage to enemies that are immune to the instant death status that it inflicts. Cross Slash also inflicts paralysis, so it would've been cool to see that in the mod too.

@galaxyfam6471 Жыл бұрын

I’m actually really impressed with how good the editing is in this video. Give your editor a raise Nick.

@scala_xl Жыл бұрын

Facts

@BowlOSoup6661 9 ай бұрын

Honestly I didn't like it that much. It just looks like all the other videos on KZfaq

@YasEmisDaBus 9 ай бұрын

Shulk's Side Smash is clearly intended to be his Slit Edge

@danknados 2 ай бұрын

bruh that's what I'm saying

@ethanodell8044 9 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to see Steve only do 10% on his strongest attacks

@TheFadedShade Жыл бұрын

Been an absolute joy seeing this project come to life, thank you for the opportunity to work on it! ❤

@Raddkann Жыл бұрын

you are a god, this editing is crazy good

@geoffreypurcell Жыл бұрын

Such a good video!!!

@christopherdangelo1292 Жыл бұрын

Tbh Kirby could have had this apply to all of his moves, since his series DOES have a spin off game where numbers can be sufficiently calculated

@airam1721 Жыл бұрын

Which one?

@christopherdangelo1292 Жыл бұрын

Kirby battle Royale, or super Kirby clash, depends on accuracy

@N12015 Жыл бұрын

@@christopherdangelo1292 I'm sure there's 3 mini-Bosses who actually show damage. The Virus in Super star, a guard in Return to Dreamland and another guard in Planet Robobot, all using roughly the same damage formula.

@supergamer1388 Жыл бұрын

For the Pokemon, it would have been amazing if you were able to account for Final Smashes. I'd like to see the ridiculous damage done by Volt Tackle, Malicious Moonsault, and the combination of Hydro Pump, Solar Beam, and Fire Blast (Triple Finish).

@xraenon1664 Жыл бұрын

Kinda surprised Pyra/Mythra, Joker, Hero, Terry, and quite a few others didn’t get anything, but you gotta leave something for a part 2 I guess

@Dman25 Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's named as such, but Shulk's side smash is also a move reference. It's slit edge, which funnily enough is one of his weakest arts, but it deals increased damage from the side and reduces enemy defense (which because enemies in xc1 don't have a defense stat actually just increases the damage your party does).

@facundodenegri9846 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact mewtwo is at level 100 since his final smash uses psystrike which he use to learn at level 100 in x and y (the last pokemon game before smash 4)

@driftin_soul1312 Жыл бұрын

I feel like applying that sort of logic gets a little wonky when you consider combinations like Pikachu having Skull Bash or Submission (legal moves on it in gen 1 only, which gets extra weird considering Pichu also has those moves in Smash despite debuting in gen 2) and also Volt Tackle (introduced in gen 3); Mewtwo hasn't ever had Tail Whip or Shadow Blast as a legal move; nor has Greninja ever had Rolling Kick, Triple Kick, or Slam I approve of Nick's setting a consistent level for all of the Pokemon (especially since L50 is the standard in official competitive play)

@ZTimeGamingYT Жыл бұрын

The editing on this video is actually amazing. Props to the editor for making visually appealing content and Nick for making humor!

@gabewhite9193 11 ай бұрын

Hold on. Kirby uses his special moves in one of the games when he takes the power from master hand. He literally gets his full special moveset

@Dirakiaa Жыл бұрын

As a Xenoblade Nerd, Shulk FSmash absolutely is Slit Edge

@splgk6204 9 ай бұрын

I yhink he explained that it was the buster that made it no more powerful, since no characters are mekons, the buster monado art applies no changes

@GumshoeClassic 9 ай бұрын

@@splgk6204That wouldn't matter though. Slit Edge would still get its own ratios, and besides, Buster is kinda scuffed in this scenario anyways, because it works completely different in Xenoblade. It's not a buff, it's a big swing with the *bonus* effect of dealing extra damage against Mechon. That's why I'm still adamant it should've been Enchant instead, it's literally the first Monado Art you use and its entire purpose is being a damage buff. (Shield is also completely misrepresented, it should be Monado Armour)

@splgk6204 9 ай бұрын

@@GumshoeClassic yeah I get what you mean. I believe that for the shield/armour situation, it might have to do with pronunciation (shield is nicer to the ear) and also, accessibility (it might be more intuitive for children) For buster, maybe they had another initial project and decided to only make it a buff in the end, though this is no excuse cause they had 8 years to check with the source material but oh well At least Shulk is in smash (In swimsuit :D )

@GumshoeClassic 9 ай бұрын

@@splgk6204 I don't really think armor would be harder to get than shield to be honest, it's such a ubiquitous concept and word all throughout media. If anything, Shield is misleading since it doesn't act like a shield at all and has nothing to do with the in-game mechanic of the same name.

@ninkstheultimate3376 9 ай бұрын

@@splgk6204 Monado Art Shield completely blocks an Art of the same level or less in Xenoblade, and theres not really a good way to quantify that in Smash. Armor would've been better, since it actually reduces damage in Xenoblade, all the way up to 95% damage reduction (i think, it might be 85%).

@ethanherzing652 Жыл бұрын

You actually missed one of Shulk’s canon moves. His forward smash is based on slit edge, an art that lowers defense if you hit the enemy on its side

@Koobird784 Жыл бұрын

And N-air’s animation is the same as Monado Purge

@hyperstar7252 Жыл бұрын

you could also argue that down smash could be a variation of Stream Edge

@starnight139 Жыл бұрын

Interesting... Never crossed my mind!

@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven Жыл бұрын

@@hyperstar7252 I've always thought his dash attack looked more like Stream Edge. His ftilt also looks a lot like his auto-attack.

@june9914 Жыл бұрын

Shoulda made status moves do the appropriate status, like agility doubling pichus speed and tail whip making the opponent more vulnerable

@inkkles Жыл бұрын

you shouldve also gotten their canonical health and presumed 999% to equal 100% of their health, so that the character's defensive abilities carry over as well (interestingly, ryu and ken would have stayed the same here lol)

@RazielSoulshadow 5 ай бұрын

The problem with that is that you can't change the damage of a move to do different amounts based on what character it hits, making that pretty much impossible. That said, I WOULD be interested in seeing what it'd be like if they used that method to balance each character's moves based on their own games. It'd actually make the pokemon STRONGER hilariously. And the RPGs would often still do nuts damage

@andreasobermuller3044 Жыл бұрын

Shulk´s f-smash is based on the art „slit edge“ from Xenoblade, so it should have a damage change as well.

@nerddwarf Жыл бұрын

You do NOT use the pokémon's base stat in damage calculation You use the pokémon's actual, in-game stat At level 50, Pikachu's Base 50 Sp.Atk can be anywhere inbetween 49 and 112 At Level 50, Mewtwo's Base 154 Sp.Atk can be anywhere inbetween 143 and 226 (although, in a competitive setting, it's not going to be lower than 174, with a very high chance of it being 206)

@someaccount2299 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too, though that would also ideally apply to the defense stat calculations and I assume they didn't want to go through the trouble of putting EVs and IVs into consideration while also getting the average defense stats for each mon at level 50

@Croach193 Жыл бұрын

Probably easier to use the base stat than picking a number between 49 and 112 and having someone like you get upset no matter which one they pick.

@nerddwarf Жыл бұрын

@xinf3ctdx Pretty simple to just pick 70 This would be a Pikachu with Perfect IV's, 0 EV's and a Neutral/Non-affecting Nature Or 81 (Perfect IV's, EV's perfectly split between every stat, Neutral Nature) Or 102 (Perfect IV's and EV's. Neutral Nature) Or 80(.5) (Halfway between 49 and 112) Or 49 (the worst possible Pikachu) Or 112 (the best possible Pikachu) Personally, I'd have gone with either 70, or 81

@Croach193 10 ай бұрын

@@nerddwarf And even more simple to not do what you said and pick a single number that’s already right in front of you instead. Personally, no one cares what you would’ve gone with because you couldn’t pick a more asinine hill to die on if you tried.

@nerddwarf 10 ай бұрын

@@Croach193 It's been 2 months

@adamkampen Жыл бұрын

Really cool video, phenomenal editing. I've always wanted to see JRPG silly numbers put into Smash

@cryonictaco9948 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Kirby wasn't modified any further than he was. Unless, of course, his abilities are hard-coded, like most of Link's. Kirby's arsenal is almost entirely references to the game, with Hammer Flip, Final Cutter, Stone, his jab being a Fighter move and his grabs refrencing Suplex and Ninja. The stats can be found relatively easily online, such as Kirby's Hammer Flip doing 80 damage pretty consistently over the games. I wonder if there was a reason why the changes weren't made.

@AnActuallyUsefulGoddess Жыл бұрын

I was watching until 13:24 and as Ryu did Hadouken, i got a street fighter duel ad and Ryu finished the Hadouken in the ad lol. Not a bad transition

@devonkeyt6457 Жыл бұрын

Editing has been getting progressively better in the past few months a lot faster than I expected. Kudos to the editor, they are about to get you a much larger audience. Man/woman deserves a pay raise!!

@kirbdabirb5627 7 ай бұрын

17:23 this match made me realise Nick doesnt know about the existence of Kirby Fighters Deluxe/2

@iceboyproductions Жыл бұрын

4:12 well someone had to do it.

@charposting Жыл бұрын

The editing in this video is crazy good! So clean and always moving!

@breadtrd Жыл бұрын

Shulk's Monado Buster hits hard though, even if it's not mechon. Maybe it got confused with Enchant. I think it should make your next attack stronger then disapper or something like that, or it just should have been left untouched.

@yambo10 9 ай бұрын

I have absolutely no idea about anything Xenoblade, but to my understanding of it, I'm wondering if it would do more damage against R.O.B?

@ninkstheultimate3376 9 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, especially with a XII Buster doing base damage of 10,000+ damage (double on Mechon).

@sp0td0g 4 ай бұрын

@@yambo10 highly recommend the series, honestly the best games i've ever played

@sahil_tayade Жыл бұрын

Dang this is the first tcnick3 video I've watched after being a hardcore poppt fan. The editing is SOOO GOOOD, like the pokemon moves part was AMAZING

@LilMickey584 Жыл бұрын

I’d love to see this again with Sora! He has lots of canonical moves in his game and he’d have some really cool interactions

@calvietunion3588 Жыл бұрын

The Attack info scenes did not need to go that hard. Really great back to back videos!

@fangzgaming5510 Жыл бұрын

12:57 When he said "editor do you know what d to play" I said "Oh yeah we're bringing out the best theme in the world, Guile's theme!"

@fangzgaming5510 Жыл бұрын

Edit: "editor you know what to play"

@spaghettijeff8920 Жыл бұрын

I just gotta say, I seriously appreciate the editing changes from the last time I watched you. GREAT JOB!

@paultramell5427 Жыл бұрын

Little fun fact there is a way to figure out some of the damages for links attacks. By using the champion’s tunic it will enable you to see the health of your enemies which can help you calculate.

@TheEmperorGulcasa Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see Mythra with this, just because she's in no way just the fast weak one in XC2. She's still fast, but...

@badashe1364 Жыл бұрын

As a Xenoblade 2 enjoyer. Y E S. Mythra is stupidly powerful as much as you would assume otherwise with Smash.

@lavestahuntail8495 Жыл бұрын

Nice to see canonical Shulk in smash bros

@Muffinmurdurer Жыл бұрын

Shulk's buster art actually does slightly increase all damage done, it just also empowers weapons to destroy mechon if they couldn't otherwise do so.

@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven Жыл бұрын

That's Enchant. Buster is a single line AOE attack that deals extra damage to Mechon (XC1), annuls guard/block (XC2), or does more damage when Shulk is Awakened (XC3).

@Muffinmurdurer Жыл бұрын

@@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven Fuck me, you're right. I don't know how I made a mistake like that.

@geoffreypurcell Жыл бұрын

This video was so cool!! What an amazingly well edited and explained concept!!

@GumshoeClassic Жыл бұрын

The fact that these numbers are still a drop in the bucket compared to what Shulk can do in practice in XC1, let alone his guest appearance in XC2, got quite the chuckle out of me.

@christianramirez3754 Жыл бұрын

His final smash in this mod should do like 999 million damage lol

@lokir.4974 Жыл бұрын

he has nothing on sephiroth though, gigaflare doing like 7000 damage

@christianramirez3754 Жыл бұрын

@@lokir.4974 nah those are baby numbers in xenoblade lol.

@GumshoeClassic Жыл бұрын

@@lokir.4974 Shull can easily churn out hundreds of thousands of damage.

@Livus Жыл бұрын

Loving this new style of video you've been doing. The production is incredible

@Dude5375 Жыл бұрын

The editing in this video is on another lvl, wth. Great stuff

@dekuscrublife4535 Жыл бұрын

fun fact, since mewtwo's final smash is psystrike, and mewtwo doesnt learn that move until level 100, we can assume that the smash bros mewtwo is level 100

@Noxzu_BH Жыл бұрын

the editing is so goodddd props to the editor

@smackstar1015 Жыл бұрын

Since all of Roy's overhead swing moves are based on his standard attack when he uses the Sealed Sword in FE6, they should all do 18-32 damage, and the fire attacks based on his crit animation should do triple that.

@AzumarillConGafasBv Жыл бұрын

Wait, you mean Roy dealing ACTUAL significant damage is a thing?, Roy suck ass on his game lol the only thing that makes him any good is the Biding Blade and still sucks

@smackstar1015 Жыл бұрын

@@AzumarillConGafasBv A few hours in the arena, and Roy becomes a pretty good dodge tank, and gets a decent crit chance. Plus, once he promotes, he actually becomes pretty good, even without the Sealed Sword, but he still is nowhere nears as good as Rutoga or Percival.

@smackstar1015 Жыл бұрын

@@AzumarillConGafasBv Also, Project Ember Roy basically solos the game.

@AzumarillConGafasBv Жыл бұрын

@@smackstar1015 not original FE6

@smackstar1015 Жыл бұрын

@@AzumarillConGafasBv Even in the original, his crit chance becomes pretty good if you're willing to risk leveling him, especially if you use the rapier.

@contant820 Жыл бұрын

Hey nick I just wanted to say I would love to see lulling with every pyra and mythra move. The easy ones will be like phrased down air, but what about Mythras back throw 🤔

@mingautumns4238 10 ай бұрын

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who was blown away by the editing, it’s actually insane :0 👏🏼💖

@dominicgilmore3844 Жыл бұрын

I haven't seen a video of yours in a minute, but this editing is insanely different and so much more impressive, it's fantastic

@Alexander050101 Жыл бұрын

The animations showcasing the moves that have their canon damage was so clean keep up the sick work :) The TC nation budget going up 💪

@kirbyfreakyt4695 Жыл бұрын

0:20 Kirby is going to destroy you all. 7:34 Thought that was the adachi smile for a second 8:01 Where is Earthquake (Down Smash) 17:12 Canon Kirby... Ohhhhh boy!

@Thy_Guardian Жыл бұрын

Love this and it was really well put together

@user-lt1zt2yy2x Жыл бұрын

The editing was amazing, keep up the outstanding work editor and Nick😊

@benmcgiggles7655 Жыл бұрын

Damn, the idea and editing for this video are awesome. Well done

@MineNAdventurer Жыл бұрын

11:50 That's technically not true. Monado Buster does get 2x dmg against Mechon but it also has an art Power of 2.5 to 7 (or 8 in DE) so the dmg multiplier for Monado Buster should apply. If you wanted this to be more accurate you'd need to update Monado Buster's name to Monado Enchant too.

@HooS1ER17 Жыл бұрын

The production quality of this video is superb. Y'all did good!

@randomprotag9329 Жыл бұрын

"only does 2022 damage" truly something only nick can say in a modding video

@jayhoangdang Жыл бұрын

the editing in this vid is crisp god damn 11/10

@Monke-name-system-sucks Жыл бұрын

I haven’t watched one of your vids in a while, but coming back the first thing I notice is your immaculate editing! Glad you kept improving your channel despite the hype for smash falling off.

@idoshanintendo Жыл бұрын

You literally turned the shotos into their level 8, 5 star handicaped versions of themselvs from street fighter 6. And I thought they are going to stay the same, I love it.

@lloydaran Жыл бұрын

Samus' Screw Attack and Speed Booster (upB and dash attack) let you literally blow up most enemies in one shot in her games, it would have been cool to see that

@chiya703 Жыл бұрын

The editor killed it! Kudos! Oh and the two guys are cool too I guess

@pablocl3186 Жыл бұрын

amazing editing for showcasing the moves

@stebbenwolfe 5 ай бұрын

I think the idea of tail whip is that the pokemon doesn’t actually whip the other pokemon with its tail, but that it cutely wags its tail which causes the other Pokemon to drop its defenses. Like they start to underestimate you. Which means it shouldn’t do damage like shown here, but it would be neat if using it made your opponent more vulnerable to attack.

@wolfspirit9952 Жыл бұрын

Something to consider is the Monado can’t hurt people, Al least not the shackled form Shulk is using. In game, that would do a whopping 1 damage to any human players. Anyone else is screwed, though

@dylanloss5759 5 ай бұрын

it cant hurt human beings born of zanza. so it couldnt hurt homs, nopon, or high entia. anyone in smash is fair game except shulk himself

@danknados Ай бұрын

the monado can hurt people not born of the bionis, which includes everyone in the smash roster

@subbys9920 Жыл бұрын

the editing on this video is nice af, props to the editor.

@Tr0lliPop Жыл бұрын

The production quality on the video is insane! also that ending joke was amazing

@noahmaldonado5461 Жыл бұрын

I feel like there could easily be a part 2 to this video with all the fire emblem characters plus Mario, Luigi and Bowser, if the Mario and Luigi RPGs are anything to go by.

@kittykake44 10 ай бұрын

Shoutout to the editor not only for the epic edits this vid but for the based Gladion theme usage

@murphmariotwopointoh7714 Жыл бұрын

I imagine Mario's attacks would do massive damage going by how they work in the mainline games.

@reddeath5791 6 ай бұрын

Mario would be the destroyer of worlds in this video

@benhayes1118 Жыл бұрын

editing went crazy this video! awesome concept :^)

@dragon-x-i6863 Жыл бұрын

Bro the editing is unbelievable, absolutely Love the quality

@TheBrokenCode Жыл бұрын

4:42 GOD TIER EDITING 🔥🔥🔥

@EclypsesDeath Жыл бұрын

dude fadedshade did fucking amazing with the edititng i hope we get to see him do more videos

@TheFadedShade Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you

@EclypsesDeath Жыл бұрын

@@TheFadedShade anytime man🔥

@silverwalker2934 Жыл бұрын

11:52 Well it does double the damage agaisnt mechon but in the game itself buster is a suoer strong art in general agaisnt regular enemies anyways. In smash they made it work more like monado enchant where his attacks do more damage and is purple cause in Xenoblade Monado Buster is more of a Bluish White then Purple.