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@johnsmithfakename84222 жыл бұрын
There is a detail about that design of smokeless fire pits that many people do not notice. The holes at the top are the fill line. Any wood that is above the holes will cause smoke because that wood gas is above the secondary burn line.
@j.conrad53743 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Can you put links in the descriptions? Link to products used & other videos. Loving the smooth jazz!
@TylerNally2 жыл бұрын
I think you did a good job. There are two real keys to not seeing smoke... 1- don't build your wood pile higher than the secondary combustion holes. Any fire combusting above that line of holes that point inward won't be pulled vertically back into the combustion chamber to be burnt. 2- the secondary combustion fully relies on no cool air seeping into the vertical airlift above normal intake at the bottom (making airlift take longer to heat because it doesn't fully heart travelling the full vertical height -or- if the open path is a path of least resistance you maybe siphoning off air you've already warmed vertically). Potentially, you could set off a 4th of July smoke bomb in each intake hole (after okeless pit is properly functioning and heated) and see if any colored smoke leaks out from the sides anywhere. This is kinda like the reverse of inflating a inner tube then soaping the exterior looking for bubbles to show you leaks.
@weetzerswoodshop2 жыл бұрын
You had me at smoke bomb!
@michaelott3103 жыл бұрын
Ok. So I built my fire pit. I used similar blocks but they were light gray. It gives it a rustic stone look. I used the same ring you did. But I drilled 1/2" holes in the top every 2". Then I drilled a 2" hole in the ring, in front of every other gap in the bottom row of blocks. That allows the airflow to get into the fire. Rather than cap stone, I just went with another row of the same blocks to cover the ring. I basically used one less block and pushed the top row in far enough to cover the ring. Everything fit together pretty well. I had my first fire in it Thursday. It worked great!! Very little smoke after the first 10 min or so. The fire really got going quick. I wish I knew how to upload a picture in the comment section. But I posted a 3 second video titled "Smokeless Fire Pit". Thanks for posting your video. It's very helpful!
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
That’s AWESOME! Appreciate you taking my advice on this build. Yours looks like it was burning pretty hot which we have found out to be perfect for roasting marshmallows by the way! Enjoy the fire pit!!
@michaelcunningham21052 жыл бұрын
I am truly sorry to inform you that this is not a gasifying fire pit. These are the reasons why. First you only have holes on the top of the burn chamber. Allowing the excess gases to escape through the top instead of being drawn through the bottom of the side holes there are not there. Second you got too many draft holes all the way around the outer chamber which is the cement bricks or concrete bricks. You should have concrete mortar all of it except for the bottom holes for your draft. So fresh air can be mixed with the gases and as we all know hot rises and cold falls as the cool air comes in it's heated and rises and will go through the top holes bring in the gases over the flames to be reborn. As to experiment with. Otherwise you have a very nice fire pit but not smokeless.
@jasonstevens68773 жыл бұрын
I think adding a couple holes at the bottom will help reduce the smoke by giving it more cold oxygen.
@user-fw8rd5ud4q2 жыл бұрын
It does. I did that with mine and as long as your fire is deep enough below the top cap it works great.
@sean1234567893 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is the holes are too large and your really need a raging fire to heat up the walls. The hole size is just speculation, but looking at a few other videos and inspecting the smokeless pits on the market, they all have small holes. Potentially for air pressure to "shoot" the smoke towards the center of the pit.
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
No issues so far with this hole size. The original plans I found were using 2” holes so I reduced to 1 3/4” for more pressure and that seems to work perfect. All smokeless pits need to heat up before working no matter the size.
@vincegrey87183 жыл бұрын
All you guys drilling all those holes ....it is a waste of time and effort. Just raise up the ring about 1" - 1 1/2" to allow oxygen to be sucked under it as the cold air is sucked in through the small spaces in the block. Then at the top of the ring make sure it is about 1" below the cap stone so the air can travel up and over the ring and be sucked in for the secondary burn. Those holes are only needed for Solo stoves and the like because they are self contained structures. You all are not thinking it through and making more work for yourselves.
@dennismadigan20233 жыл бұрын
Start with a smaller fire to cut down on start up smoke, then add wood. I built a similar fire pit and that's how I start my fire. I also don't like the heat and view of the fire being blocked by the wall.
@michaelott3103 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I think the holes in the top should be maybe 1/2 - 3/4" in diameter. Another suggestion is to remove some of the rocks under the ring in about 4 -6 spots. That will allow some airflow into the base of the fire. I plan to build a similar pit. I'll let you know how it goes. Great job! Very creative and inexpensive ideas!
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That’s a good idea!
@terryselby20002 жыл бұрын
This guy's 100% right you need half inch holes around the top on 2-inch centers and maybe four or five inch and a half holes around the bottom or as he said remove some rock for air
@terryselby20002 жыл бұрын
But be prepared when you do that it will sound like a rocket as this is something that was fashioned after the rocket stove
@michaelott3102 жыл бұрын
@@terryselby2000 Yup. Thats what mine does. It works great. $200 and 3 hrs total work. Well worth it. Glad I could help.
@GainsMarathon3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how you setup and stacked your fire as far as what's below to get the fire going. Can you do a video on firepit fire making?
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
I will do my best to do a lighting tutorial.
@rebeccacampbell5852 жыл бұрын
I feel like you could use thinner timbers. Maybe even thick dowels for the poles? Thanks for the inspiration. How is it doing so far in the second year?
@weetzerswoodshop2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rebecca! Those poles are pretty heavy but I reinforced the bottoms with heavy stone so they have been working great. We use this fire pit continuously and it’s been doing just what we need it to do.
@rronmar3 жыл бұрын
The 3 key points that interact to make the solo stoves smokeless are: 1. Primary air control. You need some, but not very much. 1-2% of the bottom surface area works well for an 18” pit(larger pits need even less). 2. High fuel/fire to pit volume. An 18” fire in a 36” pit is going to have trouble burning smokeless. an 18” fire in an 18” pit works much better. The solo’s are smaller so they are easier to fill with fuel. 3. Heated secondary air. Too much primary airflow cools the fire and reduces the amount of time the heat has to break down the combustibles(smoke) too much means the flow will be up and out instead of in and even down. Fire too far away from the heat exchanger wall = less reflected heat back into the fire and less heat transferred into the secondary air. Fire too far away from the secondary air means it is not going to reach the smoke as well to interact with it. I think your secondary holes are a little large. It would probably work better by skipping the holes and simply leaving a gap between the top edge of the ring and the bottom of the capstones. I don’t drill holes in the ones I build… You want to fill the pit with fuel. Don’t want a fire that big? Build a smaller fire pit…I find about 15-18” is a god size and have been making dual wall pits this size for years out of 50-80 gallon scrap water heaters. You want to only deliver enough primary air so that the pit will try to draw in a little additional air over/around the top edge. This will cause it to pull any smoke that comes up around the sides, back out over the fire. It will also draw the heated secondary air out over the fire to mix with the smoke and combust/break down. With the right amount you will actually see smoke and flame sometimes drawn back down into the fire. Looked like you had good dry wood, but fuel over heat = smoke until it is up to temp. Try stacking your wood and build the fire on top of the pile. The heat will release combustibles under the fire so it will make a lot less smoke. It will take a little longer for the fire to grow but it will burn cleaner while doing so… Here is my current pit, recessed into the ground a little to increase exposure of the fire to the people around it…kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbuIfKplrNLLnJc.html
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
@rronmar , Thank you so much for putting in the time to write that valuable information on this channel. You are absolutely right with the factors involved to make it smokeless. After experimenting with the pit the last few weeks I did find out those three factors are needed to make that fire pit work the way it is supposed too. The fuel/fire to pit volume being the most important. Once that mix ratio was established our fire pit has been AMAZING! The smoke at the beginning is not an issue because all smokeless fire pits need to be brought up to proper temp in order for the science of being smokeless to work. Besides our family doesn’t normally sit around the fire while being started anyway they usually wait for me to get it set up and roaring before gathering. LOL! I will be doing a follow up video soon and I will be sure to brag about your highly intelligent and useful post that you sent me! Cheers mate!
@ericclaeyborn36002 жыл бұрын
Maybe, building up the wood above the holes in the fire ring won't create a smokeless situation. Thanks, for sharing!
@JDOPost3 жыл бұрын
Look great man! Great job
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It’s been a pleasure to sit around at night and not get all smokey!!
@milomilo64042 жыл бұрын
I see smoke in da thumb nail
@tonyarmstrong71413 жыл бұрын
That was pretty awesome bro
@weetzerswoodshop2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@flea83322 жыл бұрын
very nice build is this something i could do on a concrete slab as well ?
@weetzerswoodshop2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Absolutely you could do this on a concrete slab!
@flea83322 жыл бұрын
@@weetzerswoodshop sweet ty did not know if the heat would crack it . This will be my build for next week
@weetzerswoodshop2 жыл бұрын
Soooo cool! I hope to see it! Only thing I can suggest is to put about 3 inches of small rock in the pit and it will buffer the heat a little better on the concrete. Good luck!
@blazinnyce3 жыл бұрын
Good job, man. Looking to do a similar project in a couple of months. You should be proud and hope everyone enjoys it over the years. which solar cafe/market lights did you use?
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The lights were purchased at a TJ Max store but I do not remember the brand. They usually have a number of types and at that time they had four boxes of this model. My only complaint is that they are glass and not plastic. Just afraid of them breaking easily.
@JasonTylerRicci3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of making nearly an identical fire pit. I must have got the wrong size cap stones because they just don't lay right for the 3ft fire ring. Yours seem a bit smaller. Any idea of their size? Mine were 16" wide end, 12" smaller end, and 11" sides
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
@wonder1983 Sorry for not responding real fast I was on vacation in Montana. If I remember right I purchased the smaller bricks then got the caps for the bigger bricks. I did have to cut a couple of caps to make some small slivers to have the top ring fit nicer. Keep experimenting with smaller shapes until they fit. That’s the Professional Homeowners way! Lol!
@rustyshackleford47283 жыл бұрын
I bought the same caps as you did and have the same problem. Unfortunately it seems like the smaller stones aren't available in my area.... gotta get a little creative on this one
@JasonTylerRicci3 жыл бұрын
@@rustyshackleford4728 I ended up using HAXMAN's idea and made forms out of pink foam insulation sheets and poured my own concrete. So worth it. Check out his DIY smokeless fire pit
@rj5403 Жыл бұрын
What steel ring was used?
@weetzerswoodshop Жыл бұрын
RJ, this is the one I used. They are a little more expensive then when I bought it ( about $20 more) but they do go on sale often. I got it at Tractor Supply. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/countyline-3-foot-fire-ring?cm_vc=-10005
@huskypup34893 жыл бұрын
I think if the upper holes were smaller you'd get higher velocity air coming into the fire for a better secondary burn.
@joshmaclean82063 жыл бұрын
I lucked unto your video about smokeless firepits. As a huge coincidence, I live in Oak Harbor! Cheers neighbor. Good video.
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
Small world! I’m sure we’ve run into each other somewhere in town. LOL!
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR3 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful but i was afraid of there being too much smoke as i live in NYC and have a bunch of neighbors next to me that might complain
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
Remember…it’s easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission! LOL!
@mrmarcus81713 жыл бұрын
imagine sitting in that seat down wind during the start lol.
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
I agree….kinda reminded me of an old locomotive starting out!! LOL!
@rlm-mu2wj3 жыл бұрын
What is the diameter of your metal ring insert?
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
I think it is 33 inches. Just a bit shy of three feet. I will measure and make sure in the morning.
@judepoloma51603 жыл бұрын
How many and size of retention blocks were used ? Jp Watson, Louisiana
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
Jude I used 65 of the 8” bricks for the pit and 11 of the 11” brick caps. I cut one in half so 10 1/2 of those caps worked well. I’m probably going to arrange them better but just for cosmetic reasons because the pit is working perfect. Don’t fix what isn’t broke is what I think. I’m sure there are better plans out there but I’m not wasting my time building any more….rather be sipping whiskey around my smokeless fire pit. LOL!
@judepoloma51603 жыл бұрын
@@weetzerswoodshop thanks I’ll let you know how it comes out May take awhile again thanks for replying back ✌️🙏
@441greenleaf2 жыл бұрын
@7:27 "Smokeless" fire xD
@PeteNice293 жыл бұрын
Bunch of smoke though
@weetzerswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
I guess I’ll have to film the fire when it’s at the highest temp to show how smokeless it becomes.
@fahdm822 жыл бұрын
A little bit of continuous thick smoke here and there 😅