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Ah, so MK9

Exactly

Yes!!! Embrace the madness! The game will never be boring. The only thing that should be tuned is the damage so nobody is losing matches for getting touched just twice.

Sure, leave baraka mileena and raiden with 50% dmg combos and reiko, havik and reptile with 30% combos, that sure looks fair to me

EXACTLY!!!

how does he even do that? i thought you can't vapour cancel twice in a row without using 1 bar?

@@92tilinfiniti You can’t use “vapour cancel” twice if you already hit your opponent with it during the first time. But if they’re blocking your attacks while doing “vapour cancels”, you can do as many as you like. Forgot to add, doing these cancels doesn’t require meter at all which is great but hard to be consistent with it unless you’re this guy haha

Same man. It's what separates good Smoke's from the rest. I'm in Master with Smoke now and can do it comfortably once or twice with my favorite strings, but I played against one just yesterday who was doing it consistently like this guy with so many moves, sometimes 3 or more times in a single blockstring. He could have prob kept going, but I'd get mixed and opened up by the 3rd or 4th cancel. Really made me realize how much I was lacking in mix.

@@YoshiLupusCan relate. Currently on “Champion” with Smoke while working up towards “Masters”. I guess it goes back down to practicing a lot with him and utilising his move sets as much as can. If only I can land his “Vapour Cancels” consistently without lagging or dropping it while mid combo lol

@@Vegetable828 We'll get there, bro. It's only a matter of time.

A good tip is to wait until smoke actually turns into smoke, then press the cancel input twice. If you do it too early, it won't cancel. Pressing the inputs twice makes the chances of the cancel twice as likely

Practice mode and don’t over and over and over until you don’t even think about it I started that about 2 days ago I’m at the point where I can close my eyes and do it on average of 5 times before I fail I won’t consider it mastered until the can hit it about 50 times in a row

And some people are saying he's trash 💀

​@@Sub-Zero_.dude sick.

​@@Sub-Zero_.Fr lol ppl saying he's trash, are clearly the people who don't know how to play him or know his strengths and weaknesses. Smoke is good and he's cool ASF 😎

CRAZY

There’s this dude bloodeyyez or something like that. Think he’s better. Saw him in a ripzarena tourney

You will definitely get better. The early losses still hurt though

@@jamesball8519 thanks for the support

@@jamesball8519 James it’s always the opposite for me, the more I lose the more I play worse and the more I win the more I improve

@@Dude-X-Perfect lol, well I guess winning makes you more confident. I can understand that

@@gregviews No problem

Tbf, if they cost meter, smokes effectiveness would be significantly less. The cancel, while also being integral to his stagger mix, is his main combo filler which allows him damage comparable to the rest of the cast. He would be way to resource reliant if it cost meter

@@lucathegreat9969yeah, if he were that resource reliant he’s be like scorpion, but deal less damage.

@thatoneblueguy7500 ...I don't see the relation to scorpion here ngl

He'd suck if it used meter. He needs meter to get damage comparable to the rest of the cast.

Nah not really, it’s a good mind game cause if you poke and he blocks it he gets his turn back

thats literally what a gimmick is lol. I've been doing these cancels day 1. That mileena missed her chance to armor sooo many times w full stick lol@@LaMonsta252

@@LaMonsta252W IQ

@@LaMonsta252it’s not a legit mind game though. Experienced players won’t go for just pokes but mix in mids/throws/high starters. You do a vapor cancel to stay safe but that’s it, your turn is over. It’s just a matter of matchup knowledge and JustNasty was getting a lot of free turns because of it. Not to critique his smoke though, very solid player indeed

​@@sammythijs8641Can't the Smoke player just complete the string?

True and addition of new Kameos can make characters that struggle good

Ps5 for now but hopefully crosplay comes soon I’d love to do open tournaments to all platforms

You're goated bro,what controller are using?

@@jagger247 thanks bro! Just the standard ps5 pad

@@JustNastyx Mad

Hoping you make a guide bruh. Inspiration

Yo man your nasty at smoke! Any tips on how to vapor cancel more consistently?

Down bk circle, forward r2 and he’ll cancel the slide and turn invisible.

Ex db4 cancel is so invisible, you can't even see it in the command list lol

@@mash2Dpress lmao,im already knowin.

Yes

I believe it's MBdb4f Ex teleport cancel

This man coming in here speaking facts. With the makeup you are so right! Quan chi cosplay for Halloween stream?

Ex teleport cancel

But don't you find the commentary informative especially for those of us who don't play the game & just watch for entertainment?

@@King_of_Africa true

when nrs nerfs smoke I hope they won't make him obsolete 💀

​​@@da7enerf 😂😂😂😂😂😂? learn how to block dood, smoke is mid tier, wtf are u talking about 😂

@@H2O__Lif you add another 😂 it will make your point even stronger Matthew

@@howdydoodydoo3631 ok let me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nerf?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

If Smoke doesn't cancel, the bf3 will hit if you try to press buttons

How will you know IF he will dash cancel? It's a mind game in itself. Plus what the guy said above me

I use smoke and can only cancel once

Just about yes, if you cancel it doesn't use a bar.

Yes, but this is really hard to do

I can cancel 3 times so this will be nerfed because hit confirm you basically cancel spam to win the game

you can always cancel any move, but it's very unsafe and minus, the opponent could have jabbed every time or even sweep to punish, smoke is full of fake pressure, that guy just didn't know the matchup

Ok, he's boring

Stop watching low level gameplay then, lol

Facts. But still, I won't be surprised if NRS nerfs him just because at low levels, people believe he is "impossible" to beat..

True. And they should increase all of the base health in the game if necessary.

Huh?

What triggered you to say SF is better?

I personally think damage is too high. I like longer fights, not making 1 mistake and losing half your bar. It's not hype, sorry. Combos are not what hypes me up, it's the decisions in neutral people make to get to that combo that are hype. Combos stop being hype after the first week, especially when all of them are 10 seconds longer since everyone has to use sareena, which is also getting old. Kameos are so bad. They ruin neutral and make rush down too good. Like not everyone needs a full screen projectile, the ability to rush down for free, blockstrings for days and huge combos cuz of Kameos. They are literally too important and take away from the fight IMO.

@@Lancer1369you really like listening to yourself talk/type. It’s weird and gross

@@howdydoodydoo3631 and you really like having garbage takes and adding nothing to conversations. Grow up brotha. Just because I know how to articulate my words well, and have enough to talk about to be detailed in my discussions, doesn't mean anything. It took me like 10 seconds to type this out and will take you about the same to read this. Is that a lot to you? Have people become so dumb that a paragraph or 2 brings you to the assumption you came to? Yikes. Just tell me I'm wrong, or explain your opinion. Don't add emptiness.

Go play guilty gear, dbz, or any arc game if you want that. Nobody wanna be one tap when the combos requires damn near NO EXECUTION. y’all the players who aren’t gonna stuck around when mk1 reaches that 3-4 month period anyway. Nobody wanna see 50 percent reiko command grab every-time he gets up close.

@@kingfargo9578 exactly it is a casual game meant to be enjoyed casually. It’s fun to just do insane shit and then log off. They made the execution so easy in this game that it’s actually great for newer players. People with no experience / new are hitting 40% or more character dependent. Its a 50:50 into death kinda game with a tiny bit of meter management. And that’s fine, it’s fun. I love NRS games but i am also realistic in what it is.

@@lBadSportbig scared

Online he is a beast, offline everything is reactable, smoke is carrying these dudes with these mix ups, make that overhead a mid or slower.

nah, he needs buff

He's not the strong. A lot of his moves aren't safe and they're relatively slow

Casual. Smoke in high level is absolute trash and unsafe

High level players are calling Smoke trash tier. Saying he’s predictable and unsafe.

watch that Perfect Legend video on how to punish Smoke, gaps everywhere, no real mids to truly pressure the opp, Smoke is full of fake pressure, u can jab him out of everything, the cancels are so minus it can be sweeped, just sit back and crouch block then jab/punish Smoke, upblock overhead, they won't be able to do nothin

@@IceKream520 that seems like a really fatal and fundamental problem for a character to have. How do you even fix that aside from making the hit boxes deviate from the visual attack animations? I can’t remember off the top of my head if Smoke has any highs that look like they could pass as mids. Or maybe there are some other tools that can be strengthened to better compensate for those weaknesses. I honestly mind the lack of mids a lot less than the gaps. It kinda feels like a slap in the face to be able to get mindlessly stuffed on high execution stuff (namely the smoke dash cancel).

Get decent with smoke, then reevaluate. You'd be shocked at how exploitable he is.

horrid take

Smokes damage by itself is actually pretty low. Its his assisst that lets him get that kinda damage

@themcents4370 i get hit by 400 to 500 percent damage from smoke all the time. Doesn't seem that low

@@CrossfitWarrior he has to burn all of his meter to get that damage tho

@@CrossfitWarriorno you dont. His optimal one bars are 39% every other character has higher damage lol

400 to 500 if they use all of their resources. A lot of characters can get 450 without spending a bar. @@CrossfitWarrior