Smoking HST

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Smoking HST

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Күн бұрын

On the day The Duke (The Steam Engine 71000) was to come to Plymouth, This HST pulled in from Cornwall and it didn't sound to Great...

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@vorn29 8 жыл бұрын

The insult of referring to an HST as a "thing".

@adamoneale4396 10 ай бұрын

It's not a steam loco. It's just a thing

@ukloco 15 жыл бұрын

The two locomotives at each end are connected to each other through the lighting circuits of the carrages, so they're working in "multiple" - both locos know what each other is doing in effect. The same applies to any kind of locomotives working top and tail or double headed, and even DMU's like sprinters working in multiple.

@1madaboutguitar 15 жыл бұрын

Im impressed that they could get to that speed with just 1

@Longs81 10 жыл бұрын

Ah private railways... the "We don't own the train we just lease it so we'll rag the absolute fuck out of it until it blows up and the wheels fall off" mentality.

@riverhuntingdon6659 8 жыл бұрын

Oh definately. Sounded sick at the front alright, siezed or duff turbocharger, but the railway company's response was "oh let's paint it a different colour that'll fix it" Our old EMUs and DEMUs were thus treated by Connex among others on the former Southern Region.

@type2thrash 16 жыл бұрын

That has got to be a serious contender for "Carry on clagging 3"!!!!!

@UKTrainMan 16 жыл бұрын

Holy Smokes Batman, that MTU engine is clagging the station out! Great video 5 stars and favourites from me!

@markcf83 5 ай бұрын

It's not an MTU. It's a Valenta Paxman......

@RailsimProductions 14 жыл бұрын

Ooh, I can almost feel it. What a great feeling to be covered in nice warm clag.

@sparky30368 14 жыл бұрын

I'm not surpised it clags loads considering the amount of miles an HST has to do.. Anyone know which HST number has the highest mileage..?

@Danse_Macabre_125 11 ай бұрын

Hmm... probably 43003 considering it's age, or maybe some of the Eastern Region ones that are now rotting in Ely

@tenny_tenten 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, nostalgia

@tomgauntlestrange 5 жыл бұрын

another way to look at is that as messed up as the locomotive is it manages to pull out the station. that's the power of old tech for you. even banjacked it can still work reasonablly well.

@TopGearrules 11 жыл бұрын

Enter Jeremy Clarkson reference... 'I've got cancer now!'

@type2thrash 16 жыл бұрын

That is one CLAGGY HST!!

@class313 17 жыл бұрын

GNER hsts still look like they are working in the 80s with the current interiors!

@TheEnglishTrainSpotter2021 7 жыл бұрын

Fresh smoke for first class

@sparky30368 10 жыл бұрын

Thats the best HST clag i've seen

@railandmodel 16 жыл бұрын

Did it make it to where it was going??Nice bit of clag!!I just love Hst's, 1970's master pieces.Was on one coming back from Edinburgh,had my hand held gps on & clocked it at 130MPH!!on the race track north of York.Magic stuff!!

@liamunlimited9478 7 жыл бұрын

Less like a steam train more like a smoke train 😂

@bigglessy 12 жыл бұрын

"honey, when did we board a steam train?" "we didn't..."

@bobatporty 15 жыл бұрын

I had a turbo fail on a class 47 on a test run from crewe works to craven arms. Lots of smoke but no go and had to assisted back to crewe.

@Videogame-Matt 6 жыл бұрын

Still better emissions then a VW

@inspiringengineer 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha!

@laurenlawson2011 12 жыл бұрын

Surely, people would see the smoke go past the window and think 'hang on, somethings not right'?

@geoffreyhansen9962 8 ай бұрын

As a child I used to think that the Australian XPT was a steam train because of all of the smoke that came out of it.

@boeingnerd77 15 жыл бұрын

it really was the duke steaming out

@ACLifts 6 жыл бұрын

The train is having a cigarette

@S6Video 12 жыл бұрын

BEAST!!!

@GinoDuke 2 жыл бұрын

The turbos in that rear power car are whistling their hearts out trying to push the lot

@louisburland5346 2 жыл бұрын

normal sound, hst can happily run on a single power car however during normal use 1 drives the other supplies ancillaries aka air compressors and electric generation services to passenger cars they can still run close to 125 on single power car just loose a lot of acceleration due to the additional load. i used to work on the paxman in the navy and the 125 overhauls in devonport dockyard a lot of naval vessels used valentas of varying cylinder numbers and the swiftsure-trafalgar subs ran paxman venturas basically v18 without the blower/

@BTCRAILFILMS 14 жыл бұрын

steam to diesil, now diesil to steam...ahhh good to be back steamys!!

@tom201090 13 жыл бұрын

must be a train full of steam enthusiasts...and a loco passionate about steam as well.

@TheHairybaz 13 жыл бұрын

black jock must have just given it a service

@Penfold101 Ай бұрын

This must be video number two on KZfaq…

@shinra18 16 жыл бұрын

*nerd* I like to think our railways are ever so slightly more badass than Europe's with us using stuff like that. :P

@24nov67 13 жыл бұрын

the engine has been sitting idling for a long time and will probably clear once the engine is running at full speed. the napier deltic engine in the class 55 used to do the same thing.

@jmlouis 15 жыл бұрын

As a qualified engineer and studying the footage closely, I can confidently state that in my professional opinion that the front power car is buggered, shafted and most probably as much use on that train as kick in the nuts would be of use to the average bloke in the street.

@alanjukes336 11 жыл бұрын

I mourn the demise of the paxman valenta.

@class37thrash 14 жыл бұрын

driver: oi bill whats that smoke comein out are fgw hst co driver: thats not smoke that me smokeing

@FlightProgramAborted 6 ай бұрын

That one just wasnt firing on all cylinders, requires routine maintenance Valenta at the back

@MrGrumpygit488 9 жыл бұрын

Must have been a naff turbo because you can't hear it screaming

@louisburland5346 2 жыл бұрын

not a naff turbo the scream is the valentta vp185 its their thing thats why there called screaming valentas

@ukloco 15 жыл бұрын

They're both communicating to each other with computer equipment, so the computers in each end know what the driver is asking it to do. For example, if the driver asks for 50% throttle, the two loco's will communicate with each other to provide 25% power on each loco. It's hard to explain. The best way to imagine it, is a HST in full formation should be considered "one train" - much like a Sprinter or Pacer is "one train" even though it is 2 or 3 cars with seperate engines.

@louisburland5346 2 жыл бұрын

actually its power setting the trailing car just matches the input of the prime mover it doesnt split power it matches power it u diel in lets say 1500rpg notch 2 on prime engine the bogy will match it the power isnt divided its doubled

@deathbyteacup 2 жыл бұрын

@@louisburland5346 That is semantics. 50% of the demand for whatever full power is, is split 25% between each loco. Be that "double" or "half," it's the same thing essentially.

@pootispiker2866 10 ай бұрын

I can hardly imagine it's that complex, but I'm not well versed in all of the various British control schemes. In the states, it's much more predictable with every MUd engine responding to the throttle input with no "splitting" of power. If the throttle is in notch 7, every locomotive will be in that power setting unless there is some knockdown fault like overheating (which will only affect the local locomotive). Digital communication between units is often limited to informational purposes on the 27 pin cable.

@Gauge1channel 15 жыл бұрын

Thats what i call a bloody sea gull killer dose the job

@boeingnerd77 15 жыл бұрын

that was why the midland mainline caught on fire a few years ago

@zodiotekgaming 8 жыл бұрын

That looked to me, like the very early stages, of the engine running away

@Sephy69 7 жыл бұрын

notice the lack of the turbo scream...turbo is deffo fucked

@metadyneman 16 жыл бұрын

The Valentas were life expired for front line use and no matter how much people moan it could have been worse, we could have seen wholesale scrapping of HST's. I have to give hats off to First Great western in having the country's first fully fledged preserved heritage fleet with new engines in old locos.. If only we had done that with all our other locos we would not be looking to Canada or elsewhere to buy locos but would be enjoying re engined British built locos.. ho hum!

@Piltdownpaul 14 жыл бұрын

a ship engine in a locomotive-no wonder they snapped the exhausts with the vibration.

@tnewton1988 14 жыл бұрын

I love the guy in the background " He never makes it fucking bearing has gone"

@456013matt 15 жыл бұрын

5 Down means it was running 5 minutes behind it's schedule.

@Martindyna 10 жыл бұрын

The driver should have shut that engine down - it couldn't have felt / sounded right & the lack of acceleration must have been evident. Reconsidering notice that the driver is only proceeding at low power judging by the back engine sound, presumably to reduce the amount of smoke coming from the faulty engine.

@type2thrash 15 жыл бұрын

A HST Power car doing its Western Prince impresion!!

@JBTEvans 17 жыл бұрын

Good news I have a tripod and going to the Dean Forest Railway tomorrow where they have Steam and a DMU running... loads of videos will be uploaded Monday morning!

@456013matt 15 жыл бұрын

well, it is a bit of a struggle, a Paddington service with 1 power car (when they were Brand new) ended up being 5 down at Slough once because they can't get the acceleration with one Power car.

@NJPurling 14 жыл бұрын

It looked like the front unit was throwing out unburnt fuel, or not running on all cylinders. I don't know diesel engines, but whoever thought that was fit for service was wrong.

@NeoFalcon69 11 жыл бұрын

the train forgot it wasn't a stream train.

@irelandbloke 11 жыл бұрын

My VW golf does the same thing, so changing the aspect ratio should fix it ?.... Sweet lol

@emperorgrant 14 жыл бұрын

@Victorialine67 the front isan MTU, the back is a valenta.

@MarkAviation 12 жыл бұрын

I never knew that HST's were steam trains

@colwynkid 15 жыл бұрын

HST's are like bog units with atitude. By the time they arrived on the North Wales coast, they were in a feckin heap. I miss the days of the 80's when you didn't know if it was a 45 or 46 in the distance. The noise of a 37, the vibrations from a 40 as we stick our faces upto the plastic door that stops you touching the engine. Many heads with back pacs full of sambos, books of trains & of course, a pen & paper. "was that 47555 flying past a 72mph"? I miss that shit!

@daniel50035 13 жыл бұрын

@sparky30368 ive read that it is 43008 wich now works for east coast

@class313 14 жыл бұрын

@JBOwl4life In the above video, they are both Valentas

@FUZZYKlTTY 2 ай бұрын

17yrs ago damn

@TheHairybaz 13 жыл бұрын

another class service from the blackman

@GreatWestern175 16 жыл бұрын

It sounded like the diesel had crack stuffed in its engines lol! thats my funniest thought of why its so smokey!

@cmeonthemove 17 жыл бұрын

Check out the oil running down the side from the exhausts too!

@Greenman5582 13 жыл бұрын

He forgot to blow the whistle LOL

@joshrblx6524 6 жыл бұрын

AAAAH THE CLAG THE CLAG IT NEEDS A REPAIR SO MUCH CLAG!!!!

@MDFusionVideo 17 жыл бұрын

not all MTU's mate, EMT are giving MML VP185's and the MTU is going to extend their life more than ten years, and after that maybe a new engine. the HST never gets old, and i have never seen a vlaenta like that, so it shows that it is just a few going west, though this is awesome! wish i had seen that one

@AllianceB95 14 жыл бұрын

@teletubbykiller23 And also the MTU 12V956TB10 has bin a realy reliable engine for 30 years (the MTU brother of the valenta soundwise aswell) That engine was used in the BR 218 Rabbits!

@Diddy1875 15 жыл бұрын

The oil is low it looks like there is going to be a service on this train soon. Thanks Dave

@456013matt 15 жыл бұрын

FMJ! what a BEAST!

@wolfviperepicdude 11 жыл бұрын

it may be a blown turbo *whit's for the engin in the back* yep the front engin has a blown turbo

@MrTinyUK 12 жыл бұрын

I seem to remember one the arguments FOR getting rid of steam, was less pollution. Ha ha ha.

@EdwardPercyScruff 13 жыл бұрын

It's a diesel-outline steam engine instead of a steam-outline diesel!

@KWVRMAD 14 жыл бұрын

The Front Was A Valenta The Back Was MTU or maybe other way round!

@matthewrattigan 16 жыл бұрын

No the Mirrlees were fitted in the late 80's / early 90's to only 4 powercars, of which were put back to Valentas later on anyway. The MTU is a complete different and awful sounding engine that most train companies and now having fitted to their power cars

@Kromaatikse 14 жыл бұрын

@teletubbykiller23 At the very least the turbo's gone. With that in mind, quite possibly bits of turbo are stuck inside the engine.

@MrDavros1234 13 жыл бұрын

As Del Boy would have said to the cameraman - "Brace yourself Rodney!!!"

@lewis72 12 жыл бұрын

The rear engine is fine, couldn't they have just shut the front down and made do with a poultry 2200-odd hp?

@ralph5407 15 жыл бұрын

You an expert mechanic then to diagnose the problem just from a short bit of video....

@emperorgrant 14 жыл бұрын

@monkeynuts530 The Paxman Valenta, is an old engine, put in the HST's when they were built. Its british built I believe and it has the high pitch scream sound. After refurbishment of HST fleets, they now have the American made MTU engine. Its newer, better for the environment but sounds different. The engines are both alike in power, and they are both Mahussive V12's i think.

@MrAlfaclass1 Жыл бұрын

1680 kW V16 Series 4000 diesel engine by the German drive system manufacturer MTU Friedrichshafen

@Danse_Macabre_125 11 ай бұрын

Valenta is a ~79L V12, MTU is a 76.3L V16 made in Germany

@ECML119 16 жыл бұрын

"It's" = "It is" or "It has" Great video, cheers mate.

@stronguy20 13 жыл бұрын

HST is a tax in Canada called, "Harmonized Sales Tax."

@kartkidchun 14 жыл бұрын

Now the second power car sounded much more like a HST should sound. The first well, didn't.

@altt-check1-2 3 күн бұрын

Used love the smell of the clag

@JBOwl4life 14 жыл бұрын

@class313 Actually the one at the front was an MTU The one at the back was a Paxman.

@CreditMunch 14 жыл бұрын

Both Valentas, front one with knackered turbo?

@tgm9991 13 жыл бұрын

@sargeaap if it needed oil yeah it will sound bad but it wouldn't be burning oil like it is here

@456013matt 15 жыл бұрын

they're limited to 110 MPH with one power car for safety reasons.

@sim2lew 15 жыл бұрын

I think it wanted a piece of the action!

@monkeynuts530 14 жыл бұрын

@emperorgrant what is the difference between the MTU and the valenta?

@peterdeutscher1442 7 жыл бұрын

What the hell fully smoke all over place!!!

@tgm9991 13 жыл бұрын

BLOODY HOLLY HELLFIRE!!!!

@Benjy5997 16 жыл бұрын

What i think is impressive is that the engine waited till getting to Paddington before failing. Like it knew it was its last trip and it wanted to perform one final time. mac550 SHUT UP your talking rubbish go away. These trains are fantastic, nd when there gone i for one will be sad to see them leave. 30/40 years of service.