Rubber bullets or gameplay gun. What was he shot by? Definitely not referencing any recent events btw

Kiryu wins because he doesn't have like 4 girlfriends to distract him from fighting

They would just tiger drop each other's tiger drop infinitely

Sure Yagami wins in GAMEPLAY, but then the cutscene starts and Kiryu drops him like he did to Ichiban and says something like "Heh, you remind me of myself." Then they go play Mah-jong together.

man explains gameplay conveniences as lore, part 1

kiryu can wield a giant tuna as a weapon

idk man, i aint seeing yagami fighting 100 tojo clan members with rockets

As Nagoshi once said: "Yagami is good in a fight. He's a tough guy. However, he does not possess the monstrous, superhuman physical energy of Kiryu." .... "Actually, at one point we considered the possibility of Kiryu appearing in this game. Then we realized this would blur the line between human and monster. Like, If Kiryu was in this game, people would be like, "Can't we just let Kiryu handle everything?"

Yagami would win because he manages to do so many kicks in skin tight jeans. Imagine his power level if he had loose fitting pants like Kiryu.

Come on mate, y r u comparing 2 weak ass characters the real one should be joongi with head trauma and adachi with arrest

This feels like extreme Yagami glaze ngl. Gameplay wise even with his op items Kiryu just pops y5 extreme heat, no damage dealt lol. Lore wise: Kiryu is touted as a legend of power, speed and endurance because he literally has shown feats no regular human can. Going toe to toe with a guy who beat up a much larger bear than normal, beating up 100 Tojo clan members with weapons and rockets by himself. Yagami is def more skilled than Kiryu but skill can be negated with pure stats Kiryu has lol

Boomer Kiryu - years of training and discipline needed to master the Komaki Tiger drop and has to relearn it again every few years. Zoomer Yagami - scans QR code on the street

I usually say Kiryu because in Judgement Yagami wins a fight against a group of thugs in an alley, but is notably tired and visibly injured. Kiryu in Yakuza 5 on the other hand canonically took on 100 armed Tojo clan grunts and walked away without any visible injuries and not at all visibly tired. If you'd like a more recent example, Kiryu in Like A Dragon 7 managed to take on Ichiban's whole group and defeated them all handily, again without any visible injuries and not seeming at all tired. Those may be group fight examples, but I think it's a testament to durability and endurance that keeps Kiryu in the win. No shade to Yagami, but Kiryu had been injured more because he's dealt with higher stakes.

If kiyru and yagami tiger dropped each other in the same time they will create blackhole, The new game will be in space Titled "Like A Dragon in Space"

I love how all of the comment section agrees that kiryu would win this one

In the newer Yakuza games, it's established that all substories exist In Yakuza 5 Saejima got trained by a literal mountain god, and even then he was still only matching Kiryu's strength if not weaker. That enough says Kiryu probably win, and that's not even considering Heat Mode

Yagami vs Kiryu is like a slingshot versus a heavy machine gun

Does Yagami get Stinger missiles shot at him cause he's too dangerous to be alive? I rest my case

Now we just need one more battle: Yagami’s superpowers and extracts vs Ichiban’s Essence of Orbital Laser.

I don't care who the government sends, im never admitting that Yagami could defeat Kiryu in a fight.

"Ishin combat doesnt count, because that is not fair" Meanwhile Yagami with literal superpowers

Realistically Kiryu would speedblitz Yagami, especially considering how his styles give him the clear advantage in strength, speed, and defence. Even with Cancer, Kiryu’s feats still outclass Yagami. His mimicry unironically would probably just allow him to copy snake, crane, tiger, and boxer 😭😭😭

Just look at Yagami in cutscenes: he has serious problems with concussions. One kick from Soma and he was floored for minutes. Kiryu on the other hand takes full blooded punches (like from Ichiban) straight to the head and doesn't even flinch.

Yagami needs help in large crowds meanwhile Kiryu just solos 100 guys and casually just steps aside from a heat seaking rocket. Kiryu would just mop the floor with Yagami.

If you TRULY want to give them all their abilities along with yagami's extracts, give Kiryu his limit break from Yakuza 0. Yagami would explode with 1 punch and kiryu would be invincible. The yagami glazing is on another level 😂

this is legit just jake paul vs mike tyson ramped up a couple notches

"never lost a fight in their lives". But Yagami absolutely did lost to Soma their first bout. You won gameplay as a player, but Yagami in a story got saved by the caller, otherwise he'd be dead.

Problem: Kiryu also has superpowers. A normal human can't shatter a solid marble statue in one punch, and that was done by a _very_ non-prime Kiryu. If we go by lore in the sense of "not gameplay", Kiryu is way stronger, but Yagami is _maybe_ more agile. I won't even say faster, because Heat Actions are fully animated and thus are in this weird middle-ground between gameplay and cutscene and Yakuza 5 Kiryu has this one Heat Action that has him borderline _teleporting_ with his speed. And that's completely disregarding the fact that Heat is actually canon.

Ngl. Yagami gets stomped

Prime Kiryu would absolutely decimate Yagami and it isn't even close lol.

Yagami glaze is crazy. Has yagami even fought in a underground tournament yet?

Kiryu easily

A quick note, Yagami does say in Judgment that he was taught the basics of martial arts from his dad, but that everything after that is stuff he learned from fighting on the streets.

Come on guys v all know who it is ADACHI!!! With his arrest

Let's hope Kiryu doesn't remember that he used to be level 999 in 0

Without memes or jokes, the only one close to kiryu is Saejima

18:24 While Yagami DOES have the Extracts, they run on a timer and also has a limited supply. That also doesn’t change the fact Kiryu has Dragon’s Spirit from Yakuza 5 (The Climax Heat/Red Heat ability) which makes him untouchable AND uses his regular Heat Gauge instead of the Climax Heat Gauge used for special Heat Actions like Essence of The Dragon King. Even if he only had Extreme Heat (which is definitely weaker), he would still be unkillable. The only issues would be A. That he runs out of Heat, but even then the War God Talisman is still a thing, and B. Waiting for his Heat to recharge.

Gonna "um achtually" you on Yagami at 3:50. He learned the foundations of his martial arts from his father, who was implied to be an expert. Crane and Tiger are just slight improvements on what he learned there. Snake though, yeah he just kinda figured that out lol

Actually come to think of it, if we are counting Yagami's extracts as a factor, should we count also Kiryu's max level 999 bullshit from Yakuza 0? Cause that system is also overpowered and stupid

Kiryu might win, one small issue for him, though. Hold △ + Hold △ + Hold △ + Hold △ + △

I would argue Kiryu being written as a moron is intentional. People in game call him out on stupid decisions he makes, which means the writers are well aware of how stupid those decisions are.

I think Kiryu already has the lead.

"He got 4 fighting styles" Agent Style is malding rn

If we take Yagami super powers into consideration than let's also take Kiryu lvl. 999 from Yakuza 0 ;)

Aight, I reckon it's time to kick up a fuss about not having a Yakuza fighting game again

In all honesty, Kiryu and Yagami would became allies if they were to meet.

Surely if Yagami is allowed to use the extracts, Kiryu can use the fuck ton of war god talismans he's got, basically unlimited heat which means unlimited extreme heat mode which means impossible to kill

Yagami after the Ultimate Slap:💀

Yagami vs Kiryu is an immovable object vs an unstoppable force. Unless Kiryu decides to use Ultimate essence, in which case Yagami is Ultimately goobed

21:43 Yagami's endless crusade against the health ministry, to be more specific lol

There is actually a very well made mod for lost judgement called “legend gauntlet” wherein kiryu and yagami can fight in a gauntlet match and kiryu, with the kiryu AI using his movesets from the games along with all of his agent gadgets, so if you wanted to actually compare them gameplay wise while fighting in lost judgement combat, it is possible

21:16 "He still can't pay his bloody landlord despite making 20 billion yen." Average description of rent in Japan.

Kiryu: "Tiger..." Yagami: "Drop!" Planet: cracks in half

I think tney should both kiss

I love how the most you said of IW Kiryu is "uh he's in turn based so Yagami would just fight him." Completely foregoing any potential analysis of his styles and combat techniques there. But sure, let's just ignore that Kiryu has access to infinite katanas, knives, bowling balls, staffs, and whatever other weapons he can use for special moves. Let's ignore that rush giving him two turns essentially confirms he can use something equivalent to godspeed in 2023. Let's ignore how guarding with beast ups his physical damage. Let's ignore that he has the ability to perfect guard, not to mention the Sea God's Talisman? You know, the thing that would negate any extract move Yagami could try to do to him? Oh, also essense of gun cannot miss. So yeah, IW Kiryu alone solos Yagami, and it isn't even close

kiryu does have superpowers aka regen powers. when he got shot by the chinese assassin in yakuza 0, his wounds healed completely after a couple of hours. he could also go on fighting after being stabbed in yakuza 2. And he can sing, so he automatically wins

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Yakuza fans tend to conflate how stong a character is with how important they percieve them to be. Like when gaiden came out people were acting like shishido couldn't possibly come close to other characters in the series like saejima, and im like??? shishido is a big fucking guy he apparently has been fighting all his life, on paper he should be one of the strongest people kiriyu has ever faced, his only major weakness is being a side character and lacking the proper plot armour/strength, compared to saejima who wasted away in prison most of his life after being a yakuza for like 20 minuites he has heaps more experience. Plus hes probably been working out all that time eating fairkly well, as opposed to saejima who has been depressed and eating prison food.

The super power thing would be a good feat for yagami… but Kiryu can beat saejima, and saejima can beat a mountain god that can shoot fireballs, teleport, turn invisible, summon snow clones, and control avalanches

Kiryu literally crawled his way halfway through Kamurocho after two massive back to back battles one of them with a man equal to his skill with an open wound and survived. To top that he fought two tigers at once. Yagami's first game had mortal wounds in it and he learned fighting through watching TV. I love Yagami but it's not a contest who's stronger.

Yagami hasnt grinded the real estate minigame and mr shakedown to get his legend style to level 999 tho...

Meh, Kiryu's casually beaten super powered Amons. Extracts ain't much different.

0:16 ah yes, the legendary battle between Saitama and Kiryu.

i feel like IN-UNIVERSE, kiryu is meant to be one of the strongest people alive (at least during his heyday/before he got cancer) while yagami is supposed to be a guy of above average strength/skill to uses his wits and acrobatics to get the upperhand in battle and still needs his friends to help him fight large groups of people. HOWEVER gameplay-wise they made yagami super OP in LJ because it made his combat some of the most fun to play in the entire series by giving you tons of options for combat and tons of moves that feel rewarding when you use them skillfully. Another thing I think of though, is that while yagami may not be offensively stronger thatn kiryu, he might be defensively stronger. if you look at all the punishment he takes, especially in LJ that he's still able to stand and fight and then seemed to be completely healed with no effects the next day. although i guess we've never seen yagami get shot or stabbed. I love how confident you are that yagami and kiryu will meet someday because i really want it to happen. reminds me of my story idea is that haruka knows kiryu's still alive so she goes to kamurocho and hires yagami to find him (i made this idea pre-gaiden but it could still work if it took place after gaiden but before kiryu got sick). eventually yagami finds kiryu and they fight because yagami wants to help his client and solve the case but kiryu needs to hide his identity and keep himself away from haruka. it's an epic fight of ideals and dedication.they don't try to kill each other, just defeat each other. yagami puts up a good fight and confuses kiryu a bit with his acrobatic moves, but eventuall kiryu overpowers him with his raw strength. just as kiryu's about to deliver the final blow, haruka steps in and makes them stop the fight. yeah i think it would go down like that.

Kiryu is so good at martial arts he could look at a random situation and learn a brand new technique and has fought master martial artists in the coliseum and has decades of experience fighting the strongest mfs in the series him forgetting doesn’t take away anything he only forgot a few specific techniques and still had the foundation of his fighting style which he was still better than everyone he faced in hand to hand combat

Kiryu: Nah, i'd win. Yagami: About To Go Fight I'll Post The Video After Yagami: I Got My Ass Beat Bruh I'm Not Posting That Shit

My friend told me about the Yakuza games a few months ago, and I’ve completed the story in each and every single one of the mainline games, except for IW. I love this series so much, and have found so many awesome content creators because of it :D keep it up dude!

yagami backwards is

Either Kiryu wins or it’s a tie bc they both can do a tiger drop

Kiryu wins. You're throwing a baby with a wallet chain up against a main battle tank in a bad suit.

Yagami beats kiryu in having underage girlfriends

Sooooo you’re basically saying Yagami would win because RGG wanted to evolve their combat mechanics with each subsequent game, and both Judgment games just so happen to be some of the latest games at the moment? Ok boomer *(casually Tiger Drops you, negating **_all_** damage this time for real)*

Yagami vs Kiryu is basically the Bruce Lee quote of "I do not fear the man who practices 1000 kicks one time each, I fear the man who practiced one kick 1000 times."

The way I see it, i think it would be more interesting to compare their antagonists. Like, does kiryu have a harding time beating the mole? I dunno probably not

When you talk about the realistic perspective coming to down to the winner being whoever we play as, i find that flawed on the basis that in Y7 even though we play as Ichiban and "win" the fight against Kiryu, its shown after in a cutscene that we actually lost. So i dont think anyone is winning solely based on who we play as. Also why are we counting Yagamis extracts but excluding Kiryus Extreme moves from IW? Your whole point for not excluding extracts was to not make any caveats? So Yagami can use extracts, lets see Kiryu summon a whole ass fucking dragon on Yagamis ass then. The double standards are crazy.

You're tweakin' bro

I don't see this battle ever happening story wise. As you said, if you haven't played Infinite wealth, you're warned Kiryu is way too old to be fighting, however I would want to see Yagami and Kasuga + Crew

In gameplay? Yagami wins,no question. Even if you take away extracts or some other dumb shit, it's just way easier to fight as Yagami. In lore? Kiryu wins,no question. I'm confused,when did Yagami fight a tiger?

From reading the title i guess someone finally said it... Yagami beats Kiryu in a modern dance battle

You've alerted the horde

If cancer: Yagami If no cancer: Kiryu But we all know the fight would really just end the same way the second Kuwana vs Yagami fight would end. Just add both characters also spamming healing items while they go at it again. Also holy shit I was unaware of how insane extracts actually were. I just thought they were easy mode whatever shit so I never bothered, holy crap lmao.

Okay, but Kiryu can throw sand into Yagami's eyes and he' be blinded, but Kiryu will never be because Gaiden removed the mechanic. Also, realistically, you said Kiryu's Yakuza 5 Red Heat mode can basically stop any attack. In fact: It does. So it would stop Yagami's magic powers too. This sounds.. too convenient.

Trick question, Joongi Han wins with head trauma and a fucking tazer

Ok but what if kiryu had 5 min prep time

Fun fact: yagami gets soloed by kiryu in yk1 with rush style alone.

Nah, Haruka'd win

The battle will ultimately come down to their essence as warriors. It'll always come down to Yume vs Sawa-sensei. An unstoppable force meeting an unmovable object

The way I've always seen it is Yagami would dance circles around Kiryu but if he gets hit even once or twice it's over. At least pre Y8.

10:38 The music sync here is well done and makes my brain happy, thank you.

Dunno about Yagami's superpowers, but canonically Kiryu DID fight Amons, Jo in 4 and So in 0 have their insane laser beam attacks that Kiryu can dodge or sustain (on lower difficulties at least) 🤓

Yagami would hurt his hands hitting kiryu lmao, I'd end like the ichiban fight

But the real question still remains....who would you rather hang out with at a bar. I'm going with Kiryu because he knows how to listen and could probably give better advice

Kiryu and Yagami wouldn’t fight cause Yagami will start talking about Sawa sensei mid fight and Kiryu will start babbling that he’s not a Yakuza and by the end they’d somehow become great friends only for Yagami to never appear in a game again

I'm going to say... Yeah, these are definitely way more equal than people want to admit. But we gotta say, Kiryu had his perfectly good four styles for 7 years after Y0 until YK, and then he kept getting cozy without really fighting a lot for large periods of times. Like being arrested... two times. Living peacefully with Haruka, then with the orphanage kids, atleast for some time, and then we see him training other abilities like in Gaiden with the Agent style, which is a gadget/technology heavy style, which we know from just the game before, he sucks at, struggling to use a keyboard... Somehow, after years of minigames. So they are definitely very equal, and Yagami isn't just a tree branch in jeans and a jacket, but Kiryu isn't just a dumb himbo, he still can lift a motorcycle and throw it at people, and still became an expert at multiple disciplines.

Yagami might almost win against Kiryu, but then out of nowhere, Shinada defeats him with a steel chair, by gawd!

1:30 that cutscene is so realistic

Meaningless video. Nagoshi said Yagami can't fight as many guys as Kiryu. Kiryu's stronger. Don't need a half an hour video to get that.

Kiryu spent 10 years in the joint Yagami spent 10 million yen on his multiple girlfriends

My favorite take on the whole "Kiryu vs Yagami" debate is that Kiryu wins in terms of lore and feats, while Yagami absolutely bodies him in gameplay.

So we aren't going to talk about that one substory where Kiyru literally met Kaito?