SNS 164 Part 2: Horizontal Boring Mill

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Abom79

Abom79

7 жыл бұрын

I use the H.W. Kearns horizontal bowing mill to set up and bore out the center of the two large gearbox stands I recently fabricated. There was a mistake made on some drawings and the incorrect dimensions were given when burned out. Instead of making a mess of them with a torch, or wasting material, I set them up in the mill and bored them out as needed.
In the mix I also show my dads Starrett 2-32" Starrett inside mic, as well as his Starrett 36" vernier calipers, which I use to measure the bore.

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@jonarbuckle1560
@jonarbuckle1560 7 жыл бұрын
lol Heavy industry doesn't have tools big enough for the job "Ok. I'll be right back. Just let me just get some stuff from home."
@David-xl8zf
@David-xl8zf 7 жыл бұрын
Well not every shop has Abom size tooling at hand.
@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe
@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂, that's true, and it happend for me in the maitenance sector
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 7 жыл бұрын
Adam, your dad and grandad must be so proud of you. You're a first class machinist, and a classy guy. Hope you are enjoying the holiday with family.
@maggs131
@maggs131 2 жыл бұрын
Happy groundhog day
@denniss5512
@denniss5512 7 жыл бұрын
Even tho this may have taken a bit longer than a plasma or flame, the finish says it all. Another quality Abom job! It shows that your shop takes pride in the work they do. Nice that your boss lets you video these things, he's missing a lot of free advertising tho.
@jimgrady7458
@jimgrady7458 7 жыл бұрын
You know you've entered the final stage of a project when the finger-pointing starts.
@ScottPankhurst
@ScottPankhurst 7 жыл бұрын
I work in telecommunications. we start the blamestorming in the planning phase.
@JerickaBingham
@JerickaBingham 7 жыл бұрын
ok ok ok thats funny.
@thomasutley
@thomasutley 7 жыл бұрын
Man that Kearns HBM sure is a versatile machine.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 5 жыл бұрын
So nice to see someone working on large equipment these days. So few of us machinist tool die makers around. Keep you the great work too. Victory First.
@94XJ
@94XJ 2 жыл бұрын
When I started out machining, an older guy in the shop named Steve taught me a valuable lesson - Everyone makes mistakes. What differentiates the skilled machinist from the newbie is knowing how to fix the mistake. Who did what wrong and how matters a whole lot less than making it right. I've switched career paths and am far from the shop now...but wisdom like that applies anywhere in anything you do. :) Thanks, Steve!
@ronslaughterandalice1018
@ronslaughterandalice1018 3 жыл бұрын
Lot of guys don't like boring mill work but I always had a great time with it. You just have to take your time and think about what your doing.
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice watching a guy who is proud and enjoys his work. Sometimes I really get down about constantly battling with worn out machines and customers who don't want to pay 😔
@michaelwhinnery164
@michaelwhinnery164 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist...never will be a machinist , but I love watching these posts. The time and care that you take with every job you do is impressive. And the respect for the machine and care you take of tools you handle shows a real master tradesman at work. Also your videography and editing skills are just as impressive. Thank you Sir.
@sheemondallasgeorgia
@sheemondallasgeorgia 4 жыл бұрын
These are the GOOD videos that built your channel, Mr. Booth.
@thebotformalityknownasdale2564
@thebotformalityknownasdale2564 2 жыл бұрын
Adam thank you so much showing us this cool stuff for me it gives me more than entertainment it gives me ideas and ways I can think of of doing so menny thing. One day I hope to put to use with my plans.
@paulvandeventer7396
@paulvandeventer7396 7 жыл бұрын
It's good to see that even today with modern technology nothing beats the human feel for accuracy. Keep up the good work of inspiring us Adam
@lavejim11
@lavejim11 7 жыл бұрын
The shop I worked in used a Giddings and Lewis 60 inch HBM modified to cut threads on large diameter casing pipe. We fought chatter all the time. But what a beast!!! I was maintenance (sparky) and those machines were my babies
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
We're looking at some nice big G&L machines right now.
@nickrandol9133
@nickrandol9133 5 жыл бұрын
You are a stand up guy. I love that you help your bosses out with your own tools....
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love that Kearns. Thing has paid for itself hundreds of times over at this point. Absolutely vital piece of equipment. Whoever at Motion was the guy who gave the go ahead to buy that from your Dad when he was closing the shop; he is/was a smart man. Thanks Adam!!!! Very cool "Gitter Done!!" job!
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
That guy was me! LOL! or at least I was the one who asked the boss to buy it.
@theseeker26253
@theseeker26253 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo on what I think is becoming lost in the world, getting the job done. Some stand around pointing fingers and arguing over whose fault something is. Then there are those who just get to work and fix the problem. THE WORK is the main thing. It has to get done and your shop's reputation can take a bad hit if it isn't. The blame can be figured out later. Great job, Adam. Thanks for sharing.
@dudestuff3352
@dudestuff3352 7 жыл бұрын
Wicked cut Adam, MI is lucky to have someone willing to fix the problem while others point the fingers. Turned that ignorant iron back into something usable.
@binhbui3185
@binhbui3185 6 жыл бұрын
I hope I can hear and understand you talk about the issues you do, I admire you, and every day I watch your video thank you.
@georgesg10
@georgesg10 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting , I was hired in the past to machine 54 inch rings on a jacked up lathe clamped on a huge face plate , centered with a tape measure, I made myself an Ajustible mike with a 3/8 16 bolt with a one or one and one quarter micrometer handle I made to measure the final diameter my boss would verify with a tape measure . After a while my boss lost the contract with a different design and CNC machining .
@fuglyfeet3373
@fuglyfeet3373 2 жыл бұрын
I spent 5 yrs on an old 1940's era lucas42b boring mill boring pasta excruding cylenders finished at 7.5 id and 6 feet long. Had to use the tail stock and a 4 in boring bar about 12 ft long. I designed and made the fixtures to hold them. Chatter was a challenge, low rpm and heavier feed with .03 to .05 depth of cut. I used .015 radius tool nose inserts. Cylenders were fabbed from food grade stainless. I countered bored each end to accept a bushing in each end to support the bar. Each bushing had a air oiler plumbed in to it for lube and to keep chips ffrom entering tthe bushings worked great! To get the travel i needed i used both the spindle feed and the table feed.
@toddsheffield4271
@toddsheffield4271 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew half of what you've forgotten. thanks for the video. please keep them coming, it means a lot to some of us.
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work stepping up to the line to fix the boring issue. Great work on that and thanks for the vid, Abom!
@derKarl_stp
@derKarl_stp 7 жыл бұрын
you know he is working some Abom-sized parts when even Adam looks a bit smaller compared to the workpieces he is machining ;-)
@Godshole
@Godshole 7 жыл бұрын
I have probably said before but will say it again. Thank you to your boss(es) for letting you filem at work. I really admire the working relationship you have with them and your co-workers. I really get the feeling that while any business has to be based around profit it is not the only thing that matters in your work place. The mutual respect, cooperation, trust and drive for quality shines through. Another great job :)
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
We have to get the job done, and do it right no matter what the cost is. The unfortunate mistake is still considered covered in the labor for the whole job. Not only did we build the stands, we are assembling the units together as well.
@Godshole
@Godshole 7 жыл бұрын
Aye, these things happen. The great thing is you got on with it and did a good job doing it. To borrow a phrase from your arch nemesis.. It's good to see your 'get her done' attitude ;) and the solutions you bring to the job. Thanks for the reply :) and thanks for all the amazing content you make too...
@thomasbrown2171
@thomasbrown2171 7 жыл бұрын
love your videos, got a lot from your videos. lot of tips I use at work almost weekly
@mxcollin95
@mxcollin95 7 жыл бұрын
Super cool Adam! Love the work and the attitude. 👍
@steveedwards90
@steveedwards90 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the trip down memory lane used to work a Kearns 25year's ago great video chatter is the killer of all tools used to reverse cut to finish worked every time thanks
@charlescompton4495
@charlescompton4495 7 жыл бұрын
Ok on that boring mill job. I've never seen such a giant before (the machine is pretty big, too!) Greg
@stevenkirkham3726
@stevenkirkham3726 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam. Nice save got to love that that big boring machine. Thanks for the videos .
@lorenlieder9789
@lorenlieder9789 7 жыл бұрын
Great work Adam got to love that boring mill!!
@jcurran2414
@jcurran2414 7 жыл бұрын
It can be easy to do a quick cheap fix, but quality neat work extends your reputation. Nice job
@materialsguy2002
@materialsguy2002 7 жыл бұрын
Adam: Great video. We work in different areas, but, I go through the same process when an "I got this" happens in the lab. Plan A, B, C, D, and E...... Thanks, we got this!
@thegreatga
@thegreatga 7 жыл бұрын
As always, like a pro! Thanks for showing.
@johnnyholland8765
@johnnyholland8765 7 жыл бұрын
Adam.... I know we have been back and forth on large verses small jobs but after seeing this I am glad my fixes are on SMALL parts! Honestly after seeing this I think you will tackle almost anything. Believe me I know about design changes and the lack of communication. Good video and keep them coming.
@jeffrawe6486
@jeffrawe6486 3 жыл бұрын
I worked a 5 axis Echocut boremill made by Sharman ... the damaged spindle needed replacing, it took 4 maintenance guys, two from Germany and a 5 ton hoist to remove it.....the table could turn 360*..... such a versatile MC
@northzero2390
@northzero2390 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam, keeping customers happy.
@rickbrandt9559
@rickbrandt9559 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam Thanks Motion for video studio use. Education for the masses your support is appreciated. May influence a future dedicated employee to be.
@scottharter1161
@scottharter1161 7 жыл бұрын
You are so right - past a certain point someone has to step up and get past the finger pointing and just get it fixed.
@94XJ
@94XJ 6 жыл бұрын
Scott Harter Yeah. It should be that guy over there. *points*
@imadequate3376
@imadequate3376 Жыл бұрын
My favorite words as a machinist "no critical" and "it's for clearance"
@davidwmcinturff
@davidwmcinturff 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your knowledge, you're bettering mankind
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 7 жыл бұрын
That was a nice, clean finished product.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 7 жыл бұрын
That job required You Adam , Great job on solving the problem at hand there ! Thumbs up ..
@jamesconner8275
@jamesconner8275 7 жыл бұрын
A great Abom-size project successfully completed. Two thumbs up.
@billlee5307
@billlee5307 7 жыл бұрын
Adam, you and the people you work for have my sincere respect concerning your general attitude about how to react to mistakes and problems. Assigning responsibility for errors can be valuable if the process is centered on making clear what the problem is and what needs to be done to correct the situation. When this process gets in the way of getting the job done, and done well, a lot of finger pointing is not very useful. Nice example of using several measurements and tools to come to an "average" accuracy that is acceptable for the job at hand.
@barrythompson5127
@barrythompson5127 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job and interesting to see this relatively big machine in action.
@kenparnell4297
@kenparnell4297 5 жыл бұрын
Aw hell, back when I was a draftsman, I was given a rush drawing to make from one of the engineers hand sketches. You would have thought the engineer would have known what dimensions you needed to make a drawing but he didn't. So I had to go ask him what this dimension and that dimension was and he got all upset with me for bothering him "with stuff I should know". So, I finally got the drawing made from his sketch and something told me to make a copy of his sketch, just in case. Sure enough, a couple days later he comes up all upset with how I'd effed up his entire project and how I should be fired. Yadda, yadda, yadda. So, finally my boss wants to see what the problem was, and he handed over his sketch and said, "Your effen draftsman can't even copy a simple sketch right." Then I took out my copy of his sketch and it showed the dimension I made the drawing by and dimensioned it . When his part was wrong because he screwed up he decided to blame me and changed the sketch and tried to claim I screwed it up. So, when my boss got done with his boss, he was in some deep do-do. After that incident, I would make copies of everything after that, I would even make notes of notes I gave to others to remind me I'd given people a note about something specific. Saved my bacon a number of times., even after I became an engineer.
@andyd9900
@andyd9900 4 жыл бұрын
The world would work much easier if people just did the right thing the first time. If someone comes to you for a better understanding give them a better understanding. Obviously there is a communication issue, a good manager or engineer understands that and solves any issue. A holes do what this guy did to you. If it were I he would have been fired for altering the document and placing blame elsewhere. That is completely unprofessional and underhanded.
@fredrezfield1629
@fredrezfield1629 2 жыл бұрын
cool story bro
@patrickconway2508
@patrickconway2508 4 жыл бұрын
Hi just been looking on you tube and come across this sight. Feeling very nostalgic asi worked at kearns richards from 1970 till 1984 when it closed down. The machine shown must have been built in the 50s or early 60s as i had never seen that one. we made several machines Stype SH SF SJ and SE. Several people say the machine shown was big but it was only the equivalent in size to the SH Look on the kearns richards websites and you can look at all the machines that i have stated. The big SE150 Had a car placed on its rotating table to be photographed and i also remember one of the big machines having a chieftan tank gun turret having work done on it.. Sad to say but mrs Thatcher brought about the demise of many industies including engineering! So many highly skilled men lost for good[i was only average} Luckily i ended up working as a baggage handler at Manchester Airport until i retired a couple of years ago.
@emilgabor88
@emilgabor88 7 жыл бұрын
Adam, you just make me want to buy a boring mill
@mikenixon9164
@mikenixon9164 7 жыл бұрын
Good videos Adam. That boring mill is a nice machine. Wife says we may go to Johns open house again this year.
@macsrule15
@macsrule15 7 жыл бұрын
I woulda cut the welds and sent it back to the plasma table and re welded but then you wouldn't have had a video! lol awesome stuff Adam!
@roberthorner8494
@roberthorner8494 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT SET OF VIDEOS. THANKS FOR THE TIPS.
@roderickwhitehead
@roderickwhitehead 7 жыл бұрын
nice to see the final paint job those things got, too.
@jamesfeisley2810
@jamesfeisley2810 7 жыл бұрын
Assortment of indicators or "Weapons of Choice" 🔱 Thanks for the very interesting content. Your credit to your trade and the Booth name. Hate to see the videos end.
@MegaMetinMetin
@MegaMetinMetin 7 жыл бұрын
What quality work was that! Lovely welds and paint finish
@shortribslongbow5312
@shortribslongbow5312 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Adam thanks for sharing.
@jeremydoblinger3609
@jeremydoblinger3609 7 жыл бұрын
nice job dude I like your style and the boring mill too. Thanks for sharing Abom79
@normanreid2944
@normanreid2944 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Adam.
@directorgtr
@directorgtr 7 жыл бұрын
I had to pick my jaw up off the ground when you opened that 36" Veneer I think you called it. Abom size for sure
@gregoryaul2005
@gregoryaul2005 4 жыл бұрын
Real good job on the tables adam
@bradhieronimus9238
@bradhieronimus9238 7 жыл бұрын
love watching your videos. my sister lives in milton,Florida. just outside of Pensacola. will be visiting her in May.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Yep I know Milton well, I grew up in Pace as a teen.
@WilliamTMusil
@WilliamTMusil 7 жыл бұрын
Monarch and Pacemaker? Cool. DoAll, K&T, and Acra? Cool. Boring Mill? Awesome!
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@scheppach69
@scheppach69 7 жыл бұрын
That's great news Adam about the G&L, I was saying ask your boss for a vertical borer, not for this one job as one of your commenters remarked, but to increase the type of work the company can take on, therefore making more profit and saving set up time which will benefit everyone. I think the vertical borer is more suitable for this type of job but I realise the company's funds are finite. You should have a tee shirt made up saying " the impossible done immediately, miracles may take a little longer"
@bjre.wa.8681
@bjre.wa.8681 7 жыл бұрын
I was astounded at work a couple of weeks ago instead of furnishing some simple hand tools we needed, the company opted to pull a mechanic off a job to come remove some 10mm wrench size nuts. A job that had we had access to a 10 mm open hole nut driver would have taken 5 minutes actually took two days. They saved having to buy maybe a $50 nut drivers that probably cost several hundred dollars in the the end. Tools are apparently a real struggle for some companies.
@izrael2321
@izrael2321 7 жыл бұрын
love the vid ,really good machinist like always ...
@brianhostak3961
@brianhostak3961 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam ! Great video.
@BassBoostedSongs1
@BassBoostedSongs1 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam, i love your videos! Keep it up buddy :) Greetings from Serbia.
@joandar1
@joandar1 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam from John. I love the respect you have for your father and his/your fathers father! I know there a lot of Nay Sayers in this world and especially when they can hide behind their computer. I did wonder at the start of the video how you will go with chatter, I have had similar problems. You made a decision that was practical and solved the problem. Cheers from John Australia.
@ophirb25
@ophirb25 7 жыл бұрын
you like messing with really big things 👍👍👍
@Marzy5821
@Marzy5821 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam, 'chatter' is a constant enemy.
@gerarddransart
@gerarddransart 5 жыл бұрын
toujours un plaisir de vous regardez, je vous souhaite une bonne année 2019
@grizlybr
@grizlybr 6 жыл бұрын
hii adam you really have a very interesting and versatile job
@TheCecil64
@TheCecil64 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at Westinghouse on large G&L horizontal machines. So I’ve worked with big facing heads and line boring. On your part I would have cut with cobalt high speed and used clamps in the two top holes. Use indicators while clamping - to make sure part is not moving - if it moves use kickers. I miss my trade - I will be 77 in September.
@cliffburridge
@cliffburridge 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work, fella!
@JerickaBingham
@JerickaBingham 7 жыл бұрын
hi Adam! youre awesome (nothing has changed) :) thanks for your videos and hope you and your family are doing good.have a blessed day.. loves ya and asalaam peace
@hobojoe7737
@hobojoe7737 5 жыл бұрын
This makes me miss being a machinist so much
@richkellow1535
@richkellow1535 7 жыл бұрын
Adam, in my opinion you should become a film director your video content and quality is excellent....10/10.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
+rich kellow Thanks Rich!
@1jtolvey
@1jtolvey 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO !!
@paulelephant9521
@paulelephant9521 7 жыл бұрын
Great work Adam, i wish i was one of your customers! Nice to see someone who gives a fetid dingos kidney about the work they do.
@orkidknog4147
@orkidknog4147 7 жыл бұрын
thats a good job well done
@CarlBright
@CarlBright 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome Adam. Thanks!
@PorkBarrel.
@PorkBarrel. 7 жыл бұрын
ID's small OD's big. Nice re-work!
@chamberizer
@chamberizer 3 жыл бұрын
I worked at a couple of shops that had Devlieg's with horizontal spindle. I worked in the design rooms & I am not a machinist. Actually, the one shop I was told by a customer - was originally the Devlieg plant before they moved to Royal Oak, MI.
@SmallMartingale
@SmallMartingale 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam!
@mattgarcia440
@mattgarcia440 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work ...
@sachie123
@sachie123 7 жыл бұрын
Woah.. I finished machined 6"x10" bore on my CNC lathe the other day and thought that was big!!
@MrPeaceArc
@MrPeaceArc 7 жыл бұрын
favorite specialist :))
@perrannormanshire8783
@perrannormanshire8783 6 жыл бұрын
We have one of these where I work, a Kearnes No.2 borer. We call the horizontal borers here in the U.K, never heard of these being referred to as a mill? Great video as always.
@porkerthepig
@porkerthepig 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard it in the uk, but only from a old school guy
@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 7 жыл бұрын
One thing that I found often worked on frames and other "flimsy" work is to increase the cutting speed and feed rate. This does several things. The work (and possibly the tool holding assembly) is being excited at its natural frequency by the cutting tool. By speeding up the cutting speed a fair amount you are more likely to get out of this frequency range than by slowing down a little. The increased excitation frequency is easier to damp with things like sandbags, etc. (as others have mentioned). Taking a heavier cut loads the whole plot and the increased forces tend to dampen vibrations. This is often seen on lathe work using carbide tooling. Taking a light cut makes the work vibrate like a bell. But if the cut is made according to the insert manufacture's recommendation the tool cuts smoothly though the finish isn't as fine as you might like because of high feed rates. Generally this is ok as the areas where a bearing might be fitted are often the only places that need a fine finish. Orlin in NC
@devmeistersuperprecision4155
@devmeistersuperprecision4155 10 ай бұрын
Love this work. But you need a Devlieg 3B48 boring mill. And a 72 in Rockford planer with hydraulic kopy Kat! And you can have these for free.
@Redmech80
@Redmech80 4 жыл бұрын
All these horizontal boring mill videos have been popping up in my feed the latest few days.
@silvermediastudio
@silvermediastudio 6 жыл бұрын
Nice save
@donfinch862
@donfinch862 7 жыл бұрын
enjoyed that, cheers
@AtelierDBurgoyne
@AtelierDBurgoyne 7 жыл бұрын
Greatly instructional! I have not seen other videos on YT that are showing how to operate an HBM as good as yours. Bruce Whitman has some good ones too but not as extensive. A suggestion: put all the videos with the HBM is a specific pkaylist for ease of reference. Daniel
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
+AtelierDBurgoyne I'll try and get that organized Daniel.
@SynchroScore
@SynchroScore 4 жыл бұрын
I've been there. At my previous job, one of the components that I regularly machined was a support rod. Nothing fancy, just a 1 1/2" hardened, ground, and polished bar with a 1/2"-13 threaded hole in each end. One day I got a print from an engineer that was new to the company, showing a support rod for a slightly-different machine, with 1/2"-20 holes. I went to see him and said that we usually use 1/2"-13 for this part, and which would he like me to do? We had taps for both. He told me to use the 1/2"-13, and said he would change the print. Well, the print was never changed, another machinist made the next part, and cue somebody rushing out to Fastenal to buy 1/2"-20 bolts.
@mikedelam
@mikedelam 7 жыл бұрын
Elegant
@Titus-as-the-Roman
@Titus-as-the-Roman 7 жыл бұрын
Those transport stands are Wicked, I'm sure curious to see what kind of transmission those support. In less than a month I'll be down your way to the "Real Florida" (don't worry 'bout me pestering you, after coming through DeFuniak going east to coast due south of Tallahassee, small coastal town called Panacea) to do a couple weeks worth of a whole bunch of Noth'n but hold a fishing rod and crank it every now and then. Been coming to that part of Florida better than 30 years, hoping to retire there when the Wife retires. The Sea and the real south is in my blood.
@timtynan2787
@timtynan2787 7 жыл бұрын
nice job
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 7 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of for stiffening up that set-up was a telescopic builder's prop or floor jack, just jam it inside that pallet and see if things improve. The second thing was just to use a ratchet strap or two.
@yo64yo
@yo64yo 5 жыл бұрын
damn, nice vernier calipers
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 4 жыл бұрын
I have a really useful set that came from BSA's toolroom when BSA were still a reputable British engineering company in Small Heath, Birmingham England. Nothing left of the once huge company now 😔
@yo64yo
@yo64yo 4 жыл бұрын
@@PurityVendetta that's awesome, I've never heard of BSA before, but after a few searches, it seems like they have quite some history. It's too bad they fell out over time, but I'm sure their traditions still live on in the workmanship of the people who used to work there.
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 4 жыл бұрын
@@yo64yo They were enormous up until the 1960's when most of the British manufacturing industry started to implode. They made everything from firearms to motorcycles even machine tools. Sadly most who worked for the have passed away and there's just a few people like me struggling along in little shops working with worn out machines. One of the things which makes it more bearable is the look on some old boy's face when they meet us and realise all is not lost. It hurts that the BSA motorcycle brand is now owned by an Indian company and BSA here in England is reduced to selling rebadged cheap Chinese lathes.
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