So, can you change trains at Gloucester Road or what?

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Jago Hazzard

Jago Hazzard

Күн бұрын

Why is Gloucester Road not shown as an interchange on the Tube map? Are we being lied to?
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@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Moral of the Story: We’re all cackling at the 16 ounces bit. It’s genius comedy writing and savagery.
@Alan-ln3ls
@Alan-ln3ls Жыл бұрын
Excellent. The late Keith Waterhouse offered equally helpful ( ! ) advice on "How to metricate your cat" and similar topics.
@HarryLovesRuth
@HarryLovesRuth Жыл бұрын
Joke's on you. In the US, we're now measuring everything in Macy's Thanksgiving Day Snoopy Balloons.
@TheErador
@TheErador Жыл бұрын
@@HarryLovesRuth I presume they're equivalent to 1/270th of a football field
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the traditional British measurements such as the Double Decker Bus or the Wales. The Wales, you say? Yes. "Deforestation has been carried out over an area half the size of Wales."
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
I worked at a company which ran into financial difficulties. A new CEO was appointed and as his first act, he ordered a hugely expensive Mercedes as his company car. A colleague suggested that all financial quantities should be expressed in Deutsch Mercs. We had fun with that until we got found out. For all you youngsters, Germany's unit of currency used to be the Mark or Deutsch Mark. There was a 'Spitting Image' gag with Ronnie Raygun saying "Why do I have to help Sterling ? I've already helped his friends Mark and Frank."
@paulyp9163
@paulyp9163 Жыл бұрын
"A few metres, or in Imperial measurements 16oz", I will have to use that with my imperious mother.
@chrisoverman7551
@chrisoverman7551 Жыл бұрын
Is that fluid oz or dry oz?
@bear6845
@bear6845 Жыл бұрын
I assume if you walk quickly and efficiently, these become fluid ounces.
@44oblong
@44oblong Жыл бұрын
"A few yards, or in French measurements 38 grammes."
@oldtechnobodycaresabout
@oldtechnobodycaresabout Жыл бұрын
The wonderful wizard of Oz
@m.moolhuysen5456
@m.moolhuysen5456 Жыл бұрын
@@44oblong Reversed, the joke doesn't work nearly as well, don't you think?
@marcitos_9329
@marcitos_9329 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Jago dropping the monthly Charles Yerkes refresher course. Love all your work JH!
@RogersRamblings
@RogersRamblings Жыл бұрын
Today's top tip... If travelling from the west end of the Piccadilly Line to a District station beyond South Kensington it's best to change trains at either Hammersmith or Baron's Court. Doing so at South Kensington one loses any advantage due to the long walk between platforms and very often you will find yourself on the same train you didn’t get on at Hammersmith. Of course, if you enjoy the exercise or wish to admire the differences between GNPB and District Rly architecture then I would not wish to dissuade you.
@make-some-noise
@make-some-noise Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that although the changing time at South Kensington is longer, South Ken serves eastbound district trains to Upminster from Wimbledon, Ealing Boardway and Richmond, as well as the circle line, so potentially the waiting time is less. I guess it also depends on your destination, if your destination is beyond Tower Hill, you lose the advantage of having the circle line and therefore may not benefit much from saving your waiting time.
@RogersRamblings
@RogersRamblings Жыл бұрын
@@make-some-noise I tested it a number of times by noting the number of the District train as I was leaving Hammersmith on a Piccadilly train and noting the train I got on at South Kensington.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
My memory tells me that Barons Court was always cold and windy, Hammersmith much less so.
@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759
@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759 Жыл бұрын
Those on Winbledon branch have no such choice unfortunately
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 Жыл бұрын
Depends how fast you walk between platforms (and if you have luggage), whether the extra trains available from Wimbledon and the Circle Line make much frequency difference, how much time is gained by Piccadilly trains missing out West Kensington, and how long the District train may wait at Earls Court for an interchange or conflicting movement. For convenience, Hammersmith. If every minute counts, maybe South Ken or Earls Court. If you want fresh air and historic (but less comfortable?) platform seats, Barons Court.
@harrytodhunter5078
@harrytodhunter5078 Жыл бұрын
Mr 2:05 didnt seem pleased about missing his train!
@Usdi1999
@Usdi1999 Жыл бұрын
“In imperial measures, 16 ounces” was perfectly delivered. 👏🏼
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx Жыл бұрын
I tried to change trains there with luggage - Piccadilly being an airport line. Huge mistake.
@roblyndon5267
@roblyndon5267 Жыл бұрын
When I considered this question as a child, I came to the conclusion that a station was only considered an interchange if the lines met or parted company at that particular station. Practically, if you want to interchange, you'll want to do so at the earliest (or possibly latest, depending on the relative line speeds) opportunity. That seemed to solve the riddle of the shared nubbin, without invoking any elaborate crowd control measures. But if you want to correct 12 year-old me, all I can say is rather you than me.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like my theory...at least the one I have now since reading this.
@mpellatt
@mpellatt Жыл бұрын
That makes a lot more sense than Jago's theory, since a 1950's tube map also shows South Ken and Earls Court as District/Piccadilly interchanges and not Gloucester Road, yet at that time the South Kensington interchange was via the booking hall, as at Gloucester Road.
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen Жыл бұрын
Though Gloucester road is the first/last (depending on direction of travel) interchange between the Piccadilly and the Circle.
@peabody1976
@peabody1976 Жыл бұрын
It's easier to change at Gloucester Road than Earl's Court (between the Piccadilly and any other service), at least for me. I know from experience being at a hotel equidistant from both Gloucester Road and Earl's Court.
@djsmeguk
@djsmeguk Жыл бұрын
Heh, I've stayed at that Marriott too, and usually walked to Gloucester road if I was city bound, or Earl's Court if I was airport bound.
@heidirabenau511
@heidirabenau511 Жыл бұрын
I have often wondered this, thanks for explaining this, Jago! Also, great to see that Yerkes is making another appearance on the channel!
@JMSBRK
@JMSBRK Жыл бұрын
If Yerkes had asked a fee whenever Jaggo mentiones his name he’d be richer than ever he could’ve even been able to afford to build another line - the Jago line😂
@stephenpegum9776
@stephenpegum9776 Жыл бұрын
@@JMSBRK Sorry to "rain on your parade" but a Jago line would be distinctly Hazzardous !! 😎😱
@edwardphilibin3151
@edwardphilibin3151 Жыл бұрын
At this point Yerkes is effectively the patron saint of this channel.
@waddsbadds
@waddsbadds Жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear or read the name Gloucester Road, I immediately think of Horace and Hilda ("She who must be obeyed") Rumpole, who lived in Froxbury Mansions, Gloucester Road. How many times must Horace have stood on the Gloucester Road District Line platform to catch the underground train into the City, probably alighting at Temple station. I wonder if Rumpole's creator John Mortimer chose Gloucester Road as their home because it was such an easy commute, just seven stops and no need to change trains.
@roderickmain9697
@roderickmain9697 Жыл бұрын
As soons as you mentioned "Charles Yerkes", the wife said "Oh not him again", I;d venture to suggest he may be more famous today because of yourself, young Jago, than back in the day when he was running things. (liked the imperial measures gag too)
@CCA2020
@CCA2020 Жыл бұрын
This is legitimately what I’ve been thinking for 5 years of my life every time I check out the map on the District line
@JaapFilius
@JaapFilius Жыл бұрын
A nice side effect is that they can keep Gloucester Road in very orginal condition as they do not have to install escalators and we can experience the station almost the same way as the very first passengers did. Last november I was a few day's in London and thanks to these informative video's (thank you, Jago) and those of Hidden London Underground I have experienced the Underground in a completely new way. I mean, not just as public transport. There is so much to see when someone has pointed you to the details you pass by without notice otherwise.
@alanmoss3603
@alanmoss3603 Жыл бұрын
Man, you really need to get some Charles Tyson Yerkes merchandise going! Mabey tee-shirts with a big picture of him, with the tag-line 'Yikes it's Yerkes' - or ' Look upon my mustache all ye mighty and weep!'
@jerribee1
@jerribee1 Жыл бұрын
I'd certainly go for that.
@cjayos7654
@cjayos7654 Жыл бұрын
2:20 I feel a really good costume drama could be made about this guy. Who could be cast as the lead? An actor who can pull off absolute charm and charisma, along with dastardly deeds and complete ruthlessness.
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence Жыл бұрын
Clearly, Yerkes should be played by Jago himself. Charm and charisma but with a hint of pure evil.
@davidspear9790
@davidspear9790 Жыл бұрын
Johnny Depp would suit the role and can carry a handlebar moustache!
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
@@RossMaynardProcessExcellence I recommend Jay Foreman
@malthuswasright
@malthuswasright Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance?
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Peter Bowles would have been an ideal choice.
@andrewnelson4057
@andrewnelson4057 Жыл бұрын
I was changing trains at Gloucester Road on 8th September 18.30, when they announced the late Queen passing. If was a sight to behold such a huge event in the days of mass and immediate media....
@MsGrandunion
@MsGrandunion Жыл бұрын
Now you are making me feel old. I remember when you genuinely couldn't change at Gloucester Road, because the lifts were closed for several months for maintenance. That was in 1985, 1995, 2005 and 2015 I think. So now I'm waiting with bated breath for the presumed next closure in 2025. And I love your metric conversion of the width of the platforms at Barons Court, being either 6 metres or 16 oz.
@jacksonmahr8915
@jacksonmahr8915 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! This has bugged me for 20 years. I always thought it ridiculous - south ken, which is already packed because of museums, is called an interchange but Gloucester Rd, a few blocks away is basically a ghost town (although a charming one). In all my musings, I didnt take into account TFLs cheapness and general aversion to building infrastructure.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
I loved the interchangeable take from the Tube. You are the Yerkes to my conception of Interchanges.
@michaelrobinson166
@michaelrobinson166 Жыл бұрын
I find it curious that if you go on the TfL go app, they show both Turnham Green and Barrons Court as regular pointer stations, but if you turn on accessibility settings in app, they show them as standard interchanges. Obviously trying to show cross platform interchanges as accessible but not really doing a good job at showing it. I would argue Turnham Green is an interchange, even if the Piccadilly never stopped there for the same reason that Moor Park is an interchange; it is the best station for passengers to change to get to a train going to an otherwise unreachable destination. If Turnham Green and Moor Park (North Acton and Leytonstone as well) don't make it, then Kennington should not have an interchange like it presently does.
@roberthuron9160
@roberthuron9160 Жыл бұрын
The New York equivalents,are the 42nd Street rabbit warren[7th,8th Avenue subways,No.7 line to Flushing,Grand Central Shuttle,and Lexington Avenue IRT],Dekalb Street[BMT/IND],and Stillwell Avenue[Coney Island],and those are the major interchanges,there are also the interchanges with the Long Island,and MetroNorth,one being Woodside,between the 7 Line,and the Long Island! The maps tell much more data,but that you need on the ground! Thank you Jago,for another excursion into the Underground's Underground!! Thank you 😇!
@Stache987
@Stache987 Жыл бұрын
New York is a city you have to be careful about entrances and construction notices, if you enter in a place affected or heading the unintended direction, you have to sometimes travel on subway where you can flip directions or end up paying additional fare to correct the issue, which for a unlimited pass holder can mean a 18 minute wait [3/10ths of a hour, why the odd] to reboard with ticket.
@comicus01
@comicus01 Жыл бұрын
Jago, you are the elevator (not lift!) to my escalator. When I visited London for the first time (4 years ago), I stayed at the Raddison Blu across the street from the Gloucester Road station. So I used that station every day, however, I obviously never had a need to transfer between lines there. But I did remember that the only way down to the Piccadilly was either the elevator or a very long spiral stairway. Nice area and pretty decent location for getting to other places that I wanted to see as a tourist. I never once did see a Circle Line train come through. It was always District Line trains! The one and only time I ever saw a Circle Line train was on the north side of the Circle (up near Bakers Street), I boarded it, and after about two stops it magically became a Hammersmith and City line train.
@comicus01
@comicus01 Жыл бұрын
@@john_smith1471 I would have guessed a Piccadilly line train, then transfer to the Central line if they never had a Circle line train coming through. Maybe they actually run a few Circle line trains at night when the traffic is lower?
@TheFrogfather1
@TheFrogfather1 Жыл бұрын
I know Gloucester road better than most london stations since I stay near it when I visit. So when you mentioned crowd control I guessed the lack of escalators might be the issue. Great video with bonus Yerkes shot!
@manomaylr
@manomaylr Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered this, Jago, because going westbound on the District line they always announce “change here for the Piccadilly line and Circle line via High St Kensington and Paddington” at South Kensington and not at Gloucester Road which is theoretically the final station you can interchange at before the Circle line splits off.
@lightplane
@lightplane Жыл бұрын
I have a framed 1987 Journey Poster for the Underground. On that map Gloucester Road is shown as interchange station. I've changed there and it is a pain going up steps then down a lift. It brings up the concept of how maps can be used to change behavior. I'd be interested in what other mapping tricks are used on the TFL map to encourage travel patterns and discourage others.
@Djarra
@Djarra Жыл бұрын
There is at least one hidden out of station interchange. Fenchurch St to Bank/Monument if you go between Fenchurch St and either Bank or Monument it’s counted as a continuation of your journey. There may be a time limit, although in the past I’ve shopped in Leadenhall in between and it’s still been a through journey. There may be others like this.
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there are loads of OSIs that aren't on the maps to reduce clutter. Also AIUI the dotted lines on the map are only used where you have to leave the station to the street. OSIs where you leave the barriered areas but remain within the station complex are not distinguished on the maps from other interchanges (this is especially noticable on the "rail and tube" map but it does happen on the tube map too)
@davefrench3608
@davefrench3608 Жыл бұрын
Used to use Gloucester Road quite a lot in the early 80s and remember the lifts there.
@Hiro_Trevelyan
@Hiro_Trevelyan Жыл бұрын
In Paris, even though line 8 & 9 are overlapping in some parts, they only show the interchange at the first and last station they share. Probably because it looks better and most Parisians know about it. Oh and cross-platform interchange is one of the best feature a metro network can have. It's so convenient it's just incredible.
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk Жыл бұрын
He's been featured so often on this channel, I'm thinking of now naming THAT type of long, grey moustache a "Yerke"
@roboftherock
@roboftherock Жыл бұрын
What name would you give to one that had not turned grey yet?
@mrcellophane99
@mrcellophane99 Жыл бұрын
True, except this week when the South Ken escalators were out of service and District Line trains had a continuous announcement to change at Gloucester Road to "continue your journey"
@amitbasu8159
@amitbasu8159 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable, as ever. A related, slightly subversive, follow up that will be bound to go down well with TfL would be to highlight short cuts that ignore official directions in stations such as King's Cross, Bank / Monument, and possibly Green Park which can markedly reduce walking distances and time. I understand that sometimes it is necessary to route people longer way round to manage congestion, particularly at peak times, but it is also inexcusable for the elderly or those with walking disabilities to have to walk further than is necessary.
@iiExplosionz12
@iiExplosionz12 Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a decent explanation on why this station isn’t considered as an interchange, what about stations that are cross platform (apart from the ones you mentioned here), like Aldgate? It has a cross platform with the Met and Circle lines, but they don’t consider for it to be a interchange…
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
If you were at Tower Hill, and you wanted to go to Finchley Road, it is probably better to change at Backer Street where you would have a lot more trains to choose from. If you are going in the opposite direction, change at Baker Street if the first Met Line train terminates there, otherwise, change at some other station before Aldgate for a guaranteed same-platform interchange.
@barneylaurance1865
@barneylaurance1865 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the map designers just felt there were enough other interchanges advertised in the area, so advertising the Aldgate interchange would be visual clutter that would slow down map reading and not provide enough value. I'm choosing to see the non-marking of the interchange as simply a decision not to advertise the interchange service on the map, not a claim that the station is not considered to be an interchange.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Another factor to consider is waiting times. In some cases the schedules of the two lines are such that waiting times are very short, in others they are much longer because an outgoing train leaves just before the incoming one arrives. This assessment certainly applies to National Rail and I believe it is applied to the tube network as well.
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 Жыл бұрын
You don't show a station as an interchange, just because two lines serve that station. Why would you want to change at Aldgate between the M and C lines ? If you're on a M train traveling Metroland-Baker Street-City, the farthest it goes is Aldgate anyway. You /might/ be lucky in that a C clockwise train is being held in an adjacent platform at Aldgate, for you to travel further clockwise round the C, but you're really expected to change to the Circle somewhere between GPS and say Farringdon. If you were already on a CW C train through Aldgate, there'd be no point in changing /to/ a M train, because the C already runs a superset of that route thereon anyway, the M terminating at Aldgate. If you are on an ACW C train passing through Aldgate, you /might/ find a convenient M train ready to go in the next few minutes but, you'd still be better changing out of the Circle at any later point up to GPS. At places like Aldgate, the cross platforms are there to regulate the longer turnaround times of the M. They are holding platforms, not for allowing transfer between two lines.
@nataliec6041
@nataliec6041 Жыл бұрын
If you’re on the Met Line but your destination is say Tower Hill, you’d really want to change at Liverpool Street. If you stay on the Met Line all the way to Aldgate you could end up in platform 3, in which case you’d have to take the stairs to cross over to platform 1 for a Circle Line toward Tower Hill. Met Line uses both platforms 2&3 at Aldgate. Only platform 2 is directly adjacent to platform 1 for the Circle Line via Tower Hill.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart Жыл бұрын
Not flagging up potential interchanges as such also makes Londoners feel smug when they use them as such and furthermore provides material for KZfaqrs to make "Secrets of the Underground" videos.
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
Did you ask Google to convert meters to ounces? If so, well done Google, you're bringing a whole new level of entertainment to KZfaq videos! ;-))
@davespagnol8847
@davespagnol8847 Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but if you are on an eastbound District Line train, you can change across the platform onto a clockwise Circle Line train. Not that you'd need to any more, since the Circle Line became the Spiral Line, as all the trains northbound from High Street Kensington now terminate at Edgware Road.
@tremensdelirious
@tremensdelirious Жыл бұрын
In Jago’s London, you are never more than 6 feet away from a Charles Tyson Yerkees reference
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Жыл бұрын
Or 16 oz away.
@maxinlux6570
@maxinlux6570 Жыл бұрын
Fond memories of Gloucester Road underground station awakened there... Back in the olden days I had a girlfriend who lived in the vicinity of that station, I remember the trip from Liverpool Street to there vividly on my first visit to her home/parents as a lovestruck late teenager/early aduld at Uni. Awesome for a miserable provincinal forrin' at the time! Also the train from Victoria station to Dover Priory docks to catch the Jetfoil to Oostende. O tempora, o mores... Not forgetting the Picadilly line from there at the time to Heathrow with a tear in my eye going home.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
In the days when I used to go to 40 or so Prom concerts every season, my station of choice for the Albert Hall was Gloucester Road. My memory suggests that there weren't too many stairs.
@alanbudgen2672
@alanbudgen2672 Жыл бұрын
I changed at Gloucester Road last Tuesday, with my wife, and we were asking that very question. Having gone up and down the stairs, I realised changing at South Ken would have been easier.
@robertnelson68
@robertnelson68 Жыл бұрын
Also with Gloucester Road, the Westbound Circle Line platform is separate to the Westbound District Line platform, and since they are separate, and there also being multiple places to interchange beforehand, (Tower Hill - South Kensington,) there would be no point in making it an interchange. Doing this also means that it deters people from changing there, because there is no interchange blob at the Station. This feature on the Tube map actually helps passengers, and prevents headaches. This also applies to the Piccadilly Line, because passengers can later interchange at South Kensington instead. This part of the tube map always interested me, and to begin with I thought that it may have been a typo... but it wasn't.
@westyham1
@westyham1 Жыл бұрын
Another very informative video jago, thanks
@ThatScottishAtlantic57
@ThatScottishAtlantic57 Жыл бұрын
1:01 Better question, why is there an IKEA sign on this map? I thought it would just be stations & such? I can just imagine the announcements "Please change for Hammersmith IKEA Street". Lol
@cjayos7654
@cjayos7654 Жыл бұрын
Sponsorship. TfL have gotta get that cash any which way they can
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
The next station is ,,,, Hammersmith ,,,,,, change here for ,,,,, The Piccadilly Line ,,, The Hamersmith and City Line ,,, ,and ,,,, The Circle Line......... Alight here for ,,,,,,The Hammersmith Appolo ,,,,, and ,,,,, Ikea. Please Mind The Gap when departing from the train. This is a ,,,,,, District Line service to,,,, Ealing Broadway.
@RichardJeeves
@RichardJeeves Жыл бұрын
One word, sponsorship.
@marcelwiszowaty1751
@marcelwiszowaty1751 Жыл бұрын
I assume IKEA offered *loadsamoney*! 😎
@gymnasiast90
@gymnasiast90 Жыл бұрын
@@marcelwiszowaty1751 L-O-D-S of E-M-O-N-E, what's that spell? LOADSMONEY, prob'ly!
@brettpalfrey4665
@brettpalfrey4665 Жыл бұрын
I second the suggestion to change at Hammersmith, if you are going to Victoria, with heavy bags, coming up from Heathrow...it saved me a lot of hassle last year!...Oh, and nice to see Darth Yerkes back in a Jago video!
@johnpalmer4102
@johnpalmer4102 Жыл бұрын
Commuting from Northfields to Paddinton, I always changed at Gloucester Road, to take the Circle, as there were more frequent trains than changing at Earl's Court to take the District ( in the 1980s!)
@andrijbebko8435
@andrijbebko8435 Жыл бұрын
Charles Yerkes needs his own theme tune or fanfare for every time he's mentioned.
@Leonard_Smith
@Leonard_Smith Жыл бұрын
You just have to love the imperial system and all of its quirks, and then Jago adds his own just for fun! 😎
@stephenspackman5573
@stephenspackman5573 Жыл бұрын
Those aren't quirks, they're majesty.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
The imperial system was hugely practical. A foot is the length of a typical human foot. An acre is the area that a man and a team of 8 oxen can plough in a day. 12 pennies in a shilling - 12 is divisible by 2,3 4 and 6 - who ever wanted to divide anything by 5 ? And so on. Decimal units are soulless in comparison.
@scythal
@scythal Жыл бұрын
@@hb1338 From what you've said, it looks like it's very reliant on guesswork. Despite decimal units being more "soulless", they are based on proven scientific experiments (ie a metre = the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second)
@johnmurray8428
@johnmurray8428 Жыл бұрын
I will continue to say “good old Barons Court & the 16 once’s I have to cross with my roller bag.” Good one Jago, thank you.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
pounding the platform
@yuriyuriyu9263
@yuriyuriyu9263 Жыл бұрын
This is a somewhat surprising, yet reasonable answer to the question. The hypothesis I have in my mind is that there are stations nearby that are basically "start" and "end" of an interchangable section (e.g. north part of circle line & H&C & metropolitan line, south part of circle line & District Line), and the ones in between are omitted as interchange. But strangely Barbican is marked as an interchange on the tube map, as an exception to the hypothesis.
@captainufo4587
@captainufo4587 Жыл бұрын
Could be crowd control again. Barbican is between two other busy interchange stations, there's Farringdon with Thameslink on one side, Moorgate with the Northern line and Northern City (and now it's become a monster of a thing with Crossrail joining it with Liverpool Street to boot) on the other. So ti could suggest that if you only need to change between Metropolitan, Circle or HAmmersmith & City, please do it here instead of where it's more busy.
@tmorganriley
@tmorganriley Жыл бұрын
That hypothesis is indeed the case if you ever come to Washington, D.C., USA, and ride the Metro. Only the stations where two lines merge, diverge, or cross are show on the map as interchanges, despite sharing platforms for substantial stretches. It keeps the map cleaner, and let's you know quickly your first or last chance to change trains.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
I’ve been to Green Park and omg yes, I’ve witnessed the chaos first hand.
@JMSBRK
@JMSBRK Жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for clarifying, sir! I always been wondering why it’s never mentioned in Circle/District & Piccadilly line trains which I’ve done several times including one trip from Heathrow to Liverpool Street as one of the least smart way of an interchange if you’ve a luggage😅 Anyway, another mystery of tube solved
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains Жыл бұрын
Jago Vs Yerkes... like the sound of that! But really enjoyed the video.
@gadaboutwalks
@gadaboutwalks Жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding 'nubbin' to my vocabulary and for the handy metric/imperial conversion. However, pondering what could have been in Yerkes' dreams may disturb my sleep tonight.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
I called them "blips" but I think Beck had a specific word for them
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
According to the Urban Dictionary, nubbin has a second definition, which is very rude. Jago's mother will not be pleased.
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 Жыл бұрын
It makes perfect sense now you explain it. And it fits. There are other videos along those er lines about pedestrian flow moving through the station and how it's changed even changed at Rush hour with added detours to keep the differently directioning public safely apart. 0:53 So Hammersmith is an IKEA station. Well, I guess it had to happen sometime somewhere.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
When I was engaged as a decorator in west london by a young lady who kept chickens she wanted me to matt her skirting board, but I had the wrong paint so I only Glossed her Rhode.
@roboftherock
@roboftherock Жыл бұрын
Ooh, that hurt!
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Q: Why did the chicken cross the road ? A: To escape the mad decorator ?
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum Жыл бұрын
Well, Gloucester Road looks like a fine station - if I’m not in a rush, this will be the station I’ll change at!
@alanbowes1307
@alanbowes1307 Жыл бұрын
0:54 Nubbin - What a fabulous word
@ijmad
@ijmad Жыл бұрын
One thing I find quite puzzling is that Kennington is shown as an interchange because it's where the Northern Line branches, but not so for North Acton, Moor Park, or Surrey Quays.
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 Жыл бұрын
It's because, for a lot of the time, the Bank and CX branches of the Northern run effectively as separate lines, with Kennington effectively being the terminus for one of those. It's different again, now, with the Battersea Power Station Station open. Surrey Docks^H^H^H^H^HQuays is not shown as an interchange because there are already through trains on both branches: there is no advantage to 'getting the first train and changing at SQ', unlike at say C and Latimer, where you /do/ have to get the first available service from say Rickmansworth, to change at C+L, especially if there's a Chiltern Turbo involved. Interchange does not mean 'junction'
@ijmad
@ijmad Жыл бұрын
@@quantisedspace7047 Yeah I'm aware of the Northern Line service pattern and I suppose it makes sense, even if it's a bit inconsistent. Personally I think the Northern Line should be shown as two lines on the map, even if both those lines go to the two northern termini for now, until they upgrade Camden Town and can do a genuine split.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Moor Park is not an interchange, because you change from fast to slow services on the same line - you could call it an intrachange.
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 Жыл бұрын
@@ijmad Yes, split the Northern Line into two. This would make Camden Town a bit more platform-predictable.Currently, going southbound, the trains use the platform reflecting their origin, but southbound, the trains use the platform reflecting their destination (CX versus Bank). This doesn't matter if you're going to Euston if course. Except that it does: the N Line Bank branch southbound at Euston is one level below the corresponding CX line.
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 Жыл бұрын
As London black-cab drivers are required to learn 'The Knowledge' above ground, has anyone ever thought of writing 'The Tubage' to help travelers deal with all the subterranean goings-on too? (Inc. a free torch? : )
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
And also "The Garbage", a guide to shopping in Carnaby Street.
@malcolmbacchus866
@malcolmbacchus866 Жыл бұрын
It's also the case that as the first place you can conveniently change going west is at South Ken and going east it is Earls Court, with both those stations bookending Gloucester Road, there should really never be a need to change at Gloucester Road.
@nicksurface3513
@nicksurface3513 Жыл бұрын
I've experienced bad overcrowding at Earls Court and South Ken. Would have thought a direct tunnel from District to Piccadilly platforms at Gloucester Road could help ease congestion. But I'm sure it's not even a blip on London's radar of future construction ideas.
@speedendurance
@speedendurance Жыл бұрын
you need a 2 hour video on 'How to get around Bank station"
@PavlosPapageorgiou
@PavlosPapageorgiou Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought. It's the stations that the Tube recommends as interchanges.
@thesloaneranger1
@thesloaneranger1 Жыл бұрын
My husband was the manager of pub nearby back in the 80s..... when I told him about todays Jago vid, all he said was "dont try and change at Gloucester Road if you are drunk"!!!! lol!
@chrisgironde6669
@chrisgironde6669 Жыл бұрын
TfL class changing at Gloucester Road as being Hazzardous
@TheColum78
@TheColum78 Жыл бұрын
That’s genuinely puzzled me for years. And you answered perfectly
@GerardScroogeGoes
@GerardScroogeGoes Жыл бұрын
Still don't like the cover over of the district platforms. I am old enough to remember the open air, like south Kensington. But I'm nostalgic when I see a early picture with the original glass roof. Wich I could find a picture of the east-side of the platform and the staircase as I remember it from my first visit in the late seventies.
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk Жыл бұрын
There's a question... Which Tube station has the most cross-platform interchanges? i.e, where you can exit one train and hop on another from a different line without going up or down numerous levels (From Deep-Level to a Sub-Surface Cut-and-Cover line, for example) or having to leave the station. I'd definitely throw Farringdon into that hat.
@haltendehand1
@haltendehand1 Жыл бұрын
Possibly Euston or Oxford Circus, both of which have one genuine cross-platform interchange and also one reasonably smooth additional interchange
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk Жыл бұрын
@@haltendehand1 Finchley Road is another super smooth one. Many's the time I've arrived on a Met Line train, just as an adjacent Jubilee Line train has pulled in on the next platform, and it's literally four steps between trains.
@malthuswasright
@malthuswasright Жыл бұрын
Mile End has x-platform changes from the Central to District/Hammersmith and City.
@markfoxwell2411
@markfoxwell2411 Жыл бұрын
My choice would be Baker Street. Jubilee to Bakerloo almost cross platform and eastbound circle to northbound met almost again..
@alanlancaster4797
@alanlancaster4797 Жыл бұрын
@@AFCManUk They do try to do that with the timetable to make things as easy as possible.
@youtuberdanalt
@youtuberdanalt 2 ай бұрын
Something worth mentioning is that the District line announces interchange for the Circle line at South Kensington instead of Gloucester Road.
@75midge
@75midge Жыл бұрын
As I was watching I glanced at the "old" (read: early '90s) Tube map on my wall and there was an interchange at Gloucester Road. However as you infer at some point in the last 30 years TFL made a change so as not to encourage overcrowding at a stop not designed for lots of passengers wizzing around....great video as always.
@KingsCrossThameslink
@KingsCrossThameslink Жыл бұрын
As a regular commuter of the Piccadilly Line, I often wondered why Gloucester Road wasn't shown as an interchange. Also not sure if it's related, but is this the reason why the Piccadilly Line announcements at this station only refer to interchange for the Circle Line and not "District and Circle Lines"?
@isashax
@isashax Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation! Funny how the subtitles handle Yerkes as Yorkies or Yucky's :p
@roboftherock
@roboftherock Жыл бұрын
I noticed that phenomenon as well. I suspect it is all down to the different ways JH sounds that name.
@pleappleappleap
@pleappleappleap Жыл бұрын
Hurray for Friday afternoon Jago videos!
@Lego6980
@Lego6980 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I had always wondered about that. It seems so simple now you mention it…
@michellebell5092
@michellebell5092 Жыл бұрын
On the subject of interchanges, of the briefly mentioned out of station interchanges, I am curious as to why Edgware Road is not an OSI. Another video Jags?
@yahalyulmer2912
@yahalyulmer2912 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jago. I was in the city 2 months ago and changes lines at green park 4 times in 2 days. An absolute nightmare.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
There's a very long walk from the Piccadilly to the Jubilee.
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk Жыл бұрын
At 1:09 I love the fact that Hammersmith is now, apparently, sponsored by Ikea :D
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan Жыл бұрын
I suppose it’s a similar situation to the ‘secret’ connection to the Elizabeth Line at Barbican.
@gorkyshaw
@gorkyshaw Жыл бұрын
2:57 I have always wondered what people meant by a few metres. Now I know!
@Listenerandlearner870
@Listenerandlearner870 Жыл бұрын
I went from Baker Street to Embankment on the Circle/HammCity changing at Edgware Rd. The Circle Line is excellent these days.
@v52gc
@v52gc Жыл бұрын
Interesting fact is that Barons Court and Hammersmith weren’t cross platform interchanges when the Pic was originally built. It used the two northern platforms and the District the southern two.
@dougmorris2134
@dougmorris2134 Жыл бұрын
16ozs a fine Imperial measure much appreciated by your, much recurring guest star, Charles Tyson Yerkes. (And those in the dark depths of the far flung Oxfordshire)
@ESmith-ik8vu
@ESmith-ik8vu Жыл бұрын
You are the French furlongs to my Imperial millimetres.
@richardharrison6993
@richardharrison6993 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering a long standing question I’ve had. Also loved the 16 oz’s joke. 😊😊
@silkysmoothpro
@silkysmoothpro Жыл бұрын
*Edgware Road wants to join the chat*
@template16
@template16 Жыл бұрын
Charles Yerkes on a Friday plus 16oz imperial measurement! Excellent Jago.
@dancrooksycamore
@dancrooksycamore Жыл бұрын
I always figured that the real reason was that where two lines run concurrently TFL only show the first and last potential interchange stations along the route, rather than all interchanges, presumably to reduce map clutter (ha!). So if you're heading East you'd get to Earl's Court first; heading West you'd get to South Kensington first.
@misolgit69
@misolgit69 Жыл бұрын
changing trains at Oxford Circus is like a gym workout
@martincowley9003
@martincowley9003 Жыл бұрын
I remember as a wee lad on the tube being told not to get on a lift at a particular station because they were very unreliable, and on our way down the stairs we heard a bell ring affirming this had happened, and it has never left my mind except that i can't remember which station it was. as usual great video's :), was it gloucester road?
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
On the Moscow underground, interchange stations have multiple names, specifically a different name for each line that passes through the station. I presume it is a ploy to confuse tourists and foreign spies.
@steve.b.23
@steve.b.23 Жыл бұрын
The title of this one is giving me Mary Whitehouse Experience "Has John Major got a moustache... or wot?" vibes.
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 Жыл бұрын
"Glossed over Road Station"
@sharynkhan1104
@sharynkhan1104 Жыл бұрын
Perfect from the Elizabeth line to the central line in Stratford
@chellybub
@chellybub Жыл бұрын
16 ounces to a few meters, thanks Jago I always wondered what the conversion was
@ztmsl
@ztmsl Жыл бұрын
I was just wondering this exact question. Thanks as always!
@AppleOranges12
@AppleOranges12 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered about this. Thanks for giving me the answer I was seeking for years.
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 Жыл бұрын
WHAT??? You went on that Cable Car Jago??? Brave you - That looks scary!!! 😉🤔🚂🚂🚂
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios Жыл бұрын
It's easy to forget that the Tube map is really intended for people that are unfamiliar with their travel options. As you say, if you don't mind stairs or waiting for a lift, you are perfectly entitled to change trains at Gloucester Road and stations like it.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
Dont forget at Hammersmith (picc/district) the drivers get extra points for departing on one line just as the other one opens the doors on the other ( similar at Mile End with Central)
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Metropolitan to Piccadilly at Rayners Lane used to have me shouting "wait" to the guard as I hurtled down the stairs, followed by expletives hurled from the platform as the train moved off without me. I would have been much calmer if the guards had not had a smug look on their faces.
@david.tlrave3559
@david.tlrave3559 Жыл бұрын
Euston sq is technically an interchange, but a jolly Long walk to main Line.
@davidemmott6225
@davidemmott6225 Жыл бұрын
I've never understood why the original Met station wasn't sited immediately opposite the main line one. Or at least, why there isn't an exit/entrance on the east end of the platforms.
@baystated
@baystated Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Charles Yerkes is better well known now than he was when he was alive in no small thanks to Jago Hazzard .
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