I felt it was a missed opportunity for David to not sport a nice Katana

I duno if they could actually pull off a decent working cyberpsycho system tbh. They have changed it slightly in RED, (you don't loose points for installing 'medical grade cyberware' to replace damaged parts of yourself anymore) it relied on two things. Your 'Empathy' score and how much 'humanity cost' an item of cyberware cost you to install. Some were 'VERY LOW' and others, 'VERY HIGH', each with a corresponding point cost. For every ten points of Humanity Cost, the character loses one point of Empathy.(unequal values are rounded down) Loose too much empathy and bingo, you end up in trouble. 3, you are somewhat emotionless and cold. 2, you get chilly, forbidding and distinctly unpleasant to others. When ya get to 1 point left in Empathy, the character is usually violent, sociopathic and vicious, having to constantly fight to keep from going over the edge and committing irrational, violent acts of murder and mayhem. (From the 2nd edition 2020 sourcebook) Tbh, I can't see a good way to implement this properly in the game (console/PC game I mean) Sure, your characters dialogue could alter to reflect the new personality style (think the difference between Paragon and Renegade dialogue in the Mass Effect games) but its the actual point at which your character hits 0 Empathy that's hard to do. Say you get a temporary delay in hitting 0 points after installing that last, new Cyberdeck..... Do we (player) hear our character start to scream as they stand on the sidewalk, then get a fade to black with sounds of victims panicking and the wet sound of tearing flesh, as your character pops their psycho-cherry and goes all MDK on the poor gonks next to you? Because that's what happens in the tabletop. You hit 0, and your GM takes the character off the player, keeps their character sheet and the character becomes a GM controlled NPC, to be hunted down by the party perhaps at a later time. Guess that could work if they rigged the Empathy hitting zero to act like a character death... 'Would you like to reload from your last save, Dave?' Lol. You would quickly learn that when auto-save turned off, and you couldn't manual save, your cyberpsycho time was tickin.

David had a lot more cybernetic upgrades then V is physically capable of having in game. I believe one of the games directors or developers said that is impossible for V to get enough cybernetic upgrades to have cyberpsychosis.

@@kuroikitsune0 not like V could ever get psychosis the chip gives him a massive healing factor so his body would be able to take as much as he wants

Missed the synthetic lungs from the show but looks good for a build close to David's

I think they initially intended to have a dedicated system for being more human vs more cyberpunk.

it was supposed to be like this even in normal... but they decided to publish and unfinish game instead

I like how in Deus X you can "oveclock" yourself by adding too many cyber enhancements and start to overheat. I think that method plus cyberpsychosis would be cool!

Don't need that. Johnny is already driving V crazy lol

@@slicknick29 I enjoyed that as well.

Feel the same, guess they swapped a couple enemies around so we encounter more "elite" versions then before.

Cyberware Malfunction became way more useful this update.

if they only zipping around when dodging then they may be on Kerenzikov instead, and not Sandevistans

@@wei270 Yeah, I'm aware of the difference. That's why I didn't refer it to as Neo in the Matrix. The dodging movements are practically the same as that.

i honestly didn’t know that was the sandivistan, since i’ve never used it in the game. i thought the zipping around enemies were just annoying edgerunners but after watching the anime, i definitely get it now lol.

He actually had modified gorilla arms. Basically Maine jammed in a projectile launch system into his gorilla arms. The Ripper Doc mentions it in one of the scenes after the timeskip.

He had both but unfortunately they don't allow us to have two arm mods

Custom made, baby. Unlike David, you're not as cool as Maine, lol.

While david does use guns, I don’t think he’s ever portrayed as being particularly skilled or confident with them.

@@rustyricardo6532 He is in the time skip

Goated

@@fenrirswolh3 unfathomably so

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I think it's the reason why certain implants have attribute requirements and if you get an implant that exceeds your attribute you risk going psycho.

@@destroyerblackdragon It's just infortunate it's simply a locked out option then and not an actual risk of going psycho somehow

@@nathaaab How exactly would they implant that in the game? That would be like a resident evil game where you can actually turn into a zombie istead of getting a gameover.

@@nathaaab That's just the ripperdoc being careful. You think Vic would let you short circuit like that? Everyone else going cyberpycho I assume get their implants from the black market or are using outdated tech or are paying extra for stuff they're not ready for.

@@destroyerblackdragon i think our version of cyberpsychosis is johnny taking over our body. How over time we start coughing up blood and at one point in time during the game you can let johnny take over. This could be taken as us finally going psycho but snapping back out of it

I can easily see more seasons tbh. Seems like they could follow many different stories that have various ends.

For now there's no plans for additional seasons. Let's hope that changes given the success of the show

Not quite sure they would use the song theme for V playing here for a different character...maybe the other Samurai songs yes, but I feel Never Fade Away belongs exclusively to V.

@@TheSCORPIO360 especially with how there's a cover of the song made just for the ending for V

Yeah I was sad there wasn't a Samurai reference in the show

What guns does she use? I mean all I recognize are just pistols and maybe a Carnage.

​@@drollfurball2865 You can get her carnage in-game. Its where she died in edgerunners, at the tower inside of some bushes.

@@echowaterworks During the Heist quest or can I just return to the tower to get it?

@@drollfurball2865 It doesn't matter when

That is a massive W

Right?

Oh thank Christ I wasn’t the only one.

Lol same

bro, i played 400 Hours before realizes Sandevistan are a Thing!

yea ....in my case i didnt know the song "stay at your house " was in the game until i watched the show...and now i love that song

It the PnP books Morgan Blackhand comments that many people underestimate how powerful reflex boosters are and mentions a runner who caught a bullet bare-handed, fired at point-blank range on a bet. "Sure he had to replace his hand but he's still getting free drinks on that story to this day."

@@LordSerion Funny thing because that applies to the game also, I though it would suck due to gameplay constrictions, but no, it's trully OP as the universe describes, in fact, ghe game represents it very well.

*smasher's scared noises*

TBH, this Sandy build is pretty far for the most OP build for V. Their are Netrunner V builds that straight up give all their enemies COVID and literally induce Cyberpsychosis in them.

@@CommandantNOVA Indeed. A Netrunner V is terrifying. Can disable an entire base worth of goons at once before even stepping inside the building. To be honest, ALL endgame builds have the potential to pull incredibly fun, god tier combos.

Started a new game after watching the show. I wanted to see what he offers on this playthrough...but I punched him again.

The fact I have to weigh punching him or not every playthrough is rather... infuriating.

Just edit the save game and set q105_fingers_punched to 0 while away from him and before speaking to him a second time

@@alexandre52045 how do u do this

@@donovansimison9336 I forget how to bring it up, but there is a console that you can put commands into. It might be a mod to bring it up. That being said, you'd bring it up and input it there.

That's a really good idea for a multiplayer mod if it gets implemented in the game

So basically the invasion mechanic from Souls games? Could be awesome if done right.

Also in ttrpg, the higher your humanity stat, the lower the chance of CP.

Cyberpsychosis isn't purely treated as only insane massmurderers in the show, either. Neither Maine nor David present that way while other characters like James Norris and the random cyberpsycho that killed Pilar do display the experience of cyberpsychosis you're referring to. The more violent form of cyberpsychosis is just showed off more often because the type of people who go into the work David does or the type people in that work are more likely to interact with are the type to more often present that way after losing their humanity, because cyberpsychosis mimics aspects of a person's personality that were already there.

That must have been terrifying for the guards, they look to the left, hear something, look to the right, their buddy is slice in two.

My fav thing about sandi is going slow mo with katana and just clicking heads and resuming.

Im realizing my playstyle on my first playthrough is a bit dry ahahaha. I just ping enemies and then oneshot them with my silenced revolver. Its for sure stealthy and pragmatic but what you described sounds more epic

@@geke7381 It sounds cliche, but "Free your mind." You can do some truly amazing bullshit if a game is good enough and you just think outside the box. Don't think "Is this effective?" Think "How can I have fun with THIS right here specifically?" I saw the sandi and said to myself "I'm going to make one of those lightning fast swordsmen." Slap a bright red biker outfit on him with a Kabuto and oni mask and you have a memorable character right there.

@@PenumbranWolf yea idk if its because assassins creed and dishonored were some of the first games I played but I always have this desire to play stealthy and take out everyone before they even realize it’s happening. Im almost done with my first playthrough but next I will do something more fun/cosplayish

Aye man ik it’s kinda meh but I thought it was funny when Dario and main said the npcd were ”coming out of thin air” thought it might be a nod to the shirt game cops

@@marklugario8806 LOL yeh, it definitely seemed like a reference

Dude.... Exactly. I had to watch this in order to wanna try the game again. I also played the tabletop, tried my hand at running an RPG for the first time. That was fuckin awesome. Really hope trigger gets to do another season. Comics are decent too. At least black out and on my word are good.

@@SerfsUp1848 Where did you find the comics if you don’t mind?

I love CP

Adam Smasher stunlock, down in 10 seconds

@@HoleOfTheFox with mono wire, sandvestan and emps it took about 15 for me

I don't think he avoids it. He *is* it. He was just as bad as a human, so he's not that different from what I hear, as he was before the full Borg treatment. Iirc, Arasaka offered him the conversion instead of death, but he only took it to be able to keep doing what he enjoyed, killing innocents.

We'll never see V in another other media than a game. V is highly customised to the player, and if they made a "canon" version of V, it would annoy the vast majority of players who took literal hours constructing their character. They could, however, introduce characters from the anime into the game, kinda making Cyberpunk an evolving world. My one, singular hope is for CDPR to release a DLC that allows V to survive while having Johnny as a wing man without the inevitability of V being erased by the biochip. Something like they managed to stop the chip's erasure of V. That's the only reason why I didn't like any of Cyberpunk's endings.

At first I thought the power scaling had David higher than V in the cyber-skeleton considering what he did to the entire Militech force, but then he lost a 1v1 against Smasher. It’s possible he was weakened in that state so it’s tough to call, but considering my build also has that same Sandevistan plus better cyberware all around, we might be stronger by a clear margin.

@@Fukushima_Akira the endings of cyberpunk revolve around the central theme of its story. None of it should really be happy.

@@Fukushima_Akira I know that I wasn’t talking about V, I just meant other legends

it was indeed, love how they showed it in slow-mo and real time after

@@SyaitanBDO LOL right? A full speed it was like "Boop, done."

I have not played Cyberpunk, and this is the first Cyberpunk video I have ever seen. I honestly got pretty disappointed when I saw that in the actual game all punches look the same and that the way the enemies die isn't nearly as cool as in the show.

@@michaelb4415 you need to temper your expectations lol

Also that active that slow down time when you're spotted the first time.

@@lasarousi oh yeah I did that too. Just forgot about it cuz I played a while ago.

I want to try that now. A tip from me: the Arasaka sandevistan fragment trivializes stealth missions.

kerenzikov , sandevistan and optical camo triple threat and you''ll be fighting statues for the rest of the game. Plus its super useful for those gigs that require stealth

@@lasarousi one problem with that cyberware (slows time while seen) is time slowing cyberware often causes the Sandevistan to stop working, so only use Karenzikov because it only activate while attacking and seems to not activate while the Sandy is on.

i agree, I was surprised, but it sorta fuked me up. Good news, it's been a few days, I'm better now.

Same hehr

i wasnt crying, yes the end was bittersweet and a happy ending would be boring anyway. in night city there are no happy endings and thats how it should be, its a dystopian world after all.

@@foulXD i didnt need it to be happy but it was so effed up and gross

@@AakuTakuTV thats what i expected to happen in night city. Yes i was surprised WHEN the deaths happend but i never thought that all of them will make it. After rebeccas brother gets shoot by some random af bum, i knew where this show was going, hell i knew where it was going from episode one where david watched the BD, it was literally a foreshadowing.

naw he didnt show aptitude or lack of it for guns tho. It was because on his training in the range a pic reminded him of his mom. You can see he does have a aptitude for them later on since the smart part doesnt come to effect when youre legit 2 inches away from someone dome

@@DaftPunkSkittle that’s my point. He doesn’t like using guns that much, so isn’t particularly skilled in their use. So a gun that aims for you would be perfect for someone like that.

@@anomalous5549 you never played the game, you never been in that universe and it shows LMAO

@@AesirUnlimited you didnt understand my comment

@@DaftPunkSkittle Uh no. It’s definitely you that didn’t understand.

I've been using the Satara and love tech weapons. I also tripped over a few mines. I did not like finding out who I've been playing.

Same !

@@manicdan481 lol

Monowire stealth netrunner is a famous build in the tabletop. It's cool that you naturally lean to what most people call the most cyberpunk builds of all cyberpunk games. Very glad that it sounds just as good and enjoyable in the video game.

Thats pretty close to what I am running. Just more use of Shock and Overheat quick hacks, suppressed weapons, and tactical movement due my character having (in my mind) a special forces background before becoming a Nomad after their hometown's law enforcment agency they worked for got absorbed by Militech. I only use the monowire If I don't have time to reload my guns, crowd control, or those story moments that devoid you of weapons.

Nah it won't work

The half-life mod "The Specialists" pulled off localised multiplayer one sided slomo effects 15 or so years ago. It is very possible

Max Payne 3 multiplayer did it just fine

max payne 3 though

all it would likely do is give you a speed boost

They sould just have any enemies with a Sandevistan activate theirs like .1 seconds after you do, allowing them to move freely even though the rest are time dilated. That would make you pick your targets with a purpose.

@@formdoggie5 I was thinking something similar, also it would be cool as hell if they sped up enemies who use sandy to be even faster, more akin to real speeds it gives but give them a tell. a sound, animation, something tell-tale so you can brace for it and match their speed with your own sandy. Would add layers to combat.

You're right, there is a mod for that, it's called time dilation overhaul and it makes enemies with Sandevistans activate theirs when you do and their speed is dependent on the quality of their sandevistan

There is so much rich storyline that can still be offered through the eyes of different people. Easily could be adapted into DLCs for the game.

I do agree that this game has SO much potential because of lore but considering how long it took the game to come out, we're most likely never going to get such a big update/DLC like this

I remember seeing somewhere that the relic and Johnnys consciousness taking over prevents cyberphychosis and that’s why V can be “borged out” and be sane

Wow that’s a super interesting idea! Holy cow if I chromed out In the game and V killed some main characters that would complete hambre how I played it. Watching the show made me think an xcom or fire emblem mechanic of perms death would be interesting. Like if your playing as V and they die you continue the game as a different person. That would be intense so I’d leave it as an extreme difficulty mode not the main mode probably

@@EternalNightingale I was looking for a comment like that! Only very few people take into consideration that V is no longer a regular person after the heist. My theory is that if mental illnesses are considered as changes/damage done to the brain's chemical processes, the biochip reverts those changes, and as a result leaving V immune to going psycho. I find it as an excuse to why my level 45 V can have everything artificial all except of the majority of his brain and blood (synthetic eyes, muscles, tendons, skin, internal organs, bones, arms, legs etc.)

🤫

@@evanderafko3861 pair that with cyberpsychosis, that deaf mod, as well as the “radio enemy” mod. You’re basically watching riots happening that may or may not be your fault

@@evanderafko3861 exactly lol

This build with the active camo makes you untouchable too. The active camo is a bit busted.

Specially with mono wire cause it does higher damage

Bro I’m doing this build 👹

I'm a little sad about some of the Nerfs Net Runner builds got such as Contagion but it is still one of the best stealth builds without going "No Survivors" stealth.

Not sure if you already know but incase you did not: Sandevistan goes into your cyberdeck slot. No Sandy for netrunners.

@@Fransens yeah I do, the main reason why I haven’t used it before.

My first playthrough was this build but katana instead of gorilla arms and its straight up broken and i was only running purple heatsinks. Only pet peeve is that it actually makes the game too easy once you get the full set up since every fight devolves into turn on, swing sword, everything dies with 0 challenge since the game has no enemies that can react to the sandavistan.

I always feel inclined to make a balanced build, but ALWAYS have more fun with a specialist build. It forces you to adapt your playstyle, rather than always have the perfect tool for the job (with a balanced build).

That was what I thought too

I disagree Smasher himself said he had fun and if David got accustomed to all that chrome after a longer period he’d have beaten him as he was near death and physcosis the whole time

"the boogyman of NYC" 😂

[SPOILERS] David actually has both gorilla arms and a projectile launch system, since he took them from Maine.

By like level 10, V can hit punch man almost everyone.

V is just op

David may be built different but V is built divergent

@@Richtofen V is going to go down a super legend

Cant agreed more, cuz Adam smasher in the game couldnt stand a chance against my beeg adult toy

Well it was 2 against 1 with V and Johnny vs Adam jk

Byakko + a similar build to this let me absolutely melt Arasaka during the secret ending, even on the hardest difficulty. It's crazy how OP any halfway decent build can be.

Hardcore/realism mode perhaps?

@@RratRemi yeah, that would honestly be great.

Creating a new difficlty in which it focus on a hardcore mode. So everyone can still play the game in other difficulties and shut their mouths about it

They should just add a new "Edgerunner" difficulty with your comment above.

Totally agree, I'm playing an anhihilation netrunner build and it's so power full, just hack half the bad guys while dismembering the other half with smart shootguns

Maine definitely doubled up on the arm upgrades. Dude had both.

@@samreddig8819 There's a mod for that 😶‍🌫

@@cyberdaemonfive which mod is that?

@@cyberdaemonfive what mod ??

@@aaronmoura1234 the mod is called cyberware EX

Lucy's just a cyber ninja build . And Kiwi is just a netrunner build. And of the two Lucy would be a more flexible build. Since Kiwi has no back up once her runner abilities don't work.

To true thanks for the reply

This same KZfaq had a Lucy build. Que cool.

Makes me hopeful for a possible sequel. While CP2077 has been a bit of a mess I think the lessons learned could pave the way for an incredible sequel

I'll disagree. the different origin stories put a nice spin on the game. and it's the hight of irony that the corpo path STARTS in arasaka counterintel. if anything, i wish they had expanded on the lifepath system a bit MORE...after the intro sequence, there only like one small sidequest and some conversation options devoted to each path. Imagine a corpo playthorugh where you manage to pull strings so well you wind up on top and Saburo is consigned to digital oblivion where he belongs. or a Streetkid path where you build a full crew like David did.(or perhaps join/take over one of the gangs..Judy's story leaves a prime opening for you to take over the Tyger Claws, for instance.) or Nomad where you wind up interacting with the remnants of your old clan a bit more. (we DO all agree that david's wheelman Falco was totally a Nomad, right?)

What "life paths"? You mean the intro tutorial sequence and random meaningless dialogue changes which have zero overall affect?

I have the opposite viewpoint. V is somewhere between a fully-realized character and this avatar that we're supposed to imprint on as the player. That's why I wish they had doubled down on the lifepaths. To just clear up and expand on some of the questions I had about who V is as a character

especially since the life paths don't mean what they should

For the second game it will actually be 2077 by the time it releases

The problem there is, they painted emselves into a corner so to speak. Cyberware was easy to get in the golden years before 2023. The 2010's to 2020's had a massive amount of choice. You could do or *BE* anyone or anything, if you had the Eddies and the Empathy/Humanity to spare lol. Then the Red hit, ten years of red skies and a tanking economy and well....thats the reason so many of the npc's have crappy old cyberware. Things started to look up after 2045, but tech is still mostly out of reach of the average choom unless they sign with the big Corpo's or hit it big. If they wanted to go big on cyberware again, they would need to jump a chunk of years to make sense really. Personally, I think we'd be looking at 'Cyberpunk 2099' for the bare minimum.... Can get some decent upgrades done in 22 years, with the right motivations (in lore ones I mean)

Where'd you get the mark 5

@@calebwilliams5819 you can get the QianT “Warp Dancer” (slow to 10% time for 8 seconds, 30 sec cooldown) from the downtown ripper doc, and there is also a Militech “Falcon” (slow time to 30% for 18 sec with 60 sec cooldown) at the wellsprings ripper doc. I’m running the QianT, but haven’t experimented around too much. The QianT Mk.4 is the one with short recharge time that can be further shortened by stacking 3 heat sinks, and that’s the one you have to resist the urge to punch/murder Fingers. I learned all of this by reading the Cyberpunk2077 wiki, which is the easiest way I’ve found to learn about and keep track of where the best gear can be found.

It makes no fucking sense that Fingers can sell legendary stuff, V immediately recognize him as a piece of shit who sells low quality implants to people. I guess you can still kill him after getting the Mk4

Maybe "fake" side quests or free roam events, makes it seem like you're helping out but in reality you're murdering civs

It would be interesting if they made it an option that you can turn on and off at the beginning of your playthrough. That way you still have control and you make the choice yourself.

Someone mentioned it should be a mechanic only available in a hardcore mode

@@labbit3574 I do lile that idea as well but I would like to try a playthrough like that as well but without being in hardcore mode 😅 Im not good enough for hardcore lol

@@Ruselee I feel like he hardcore part only comes from the limitation of not being able to spam sandavista on your enemies

Well Davids main attributes seem to be cool, reflexes, and body. Very physical build. Intel and tech don't seem to be his thing. Lucy would be intel, cool, and reflexes.

If i remember correctly, body came first since it was so painfull to level, that's why you put all your starter points into body. Reflexes next and cool last. Cool came last cause it only amplified/compensates what you already had/or still needed (movement speed, armor, healing) per stack. No Dmg= No Kill= No Stack, easy as pie.

That's kinda the same across all RPGs (with the exception of the Skyrim Stealth Archer, that's OP from the start). Building up this build, or any character really, to the point they're truly dangerous *is* the game. You gotta struggle through it all to get to the point where you can blink and wipe out a whole gang hideout or bash their heads in within a second. Then the reward for all that time is feeling like an overpowered human weapon, and it feels good because it took 30 odd hours to get there. It's a nice, natural progression. V starts out getting their ass kicked for a dozen hours, develops their skills and equipment over a long time until they're unstoppable. It's why being a maxxed out netrunner isn't boring, it looks like just tapping a couple quickhacks from a distance and zero gameplay but it feels so good to get wrecked by some gang hideout in the early game and come back and watch their leader blow his own head off

i had 100+ hours, still the anime is way better than the game, al the major filosofical point of the genre in the game are missing, while (even if they are trimmed) they exist in the anime. Cyberpunk is a good game not get me wrong but is just a shooter and doesnt embrace the cyberpunk lore

I wanted to play again after edgerunners. But my game keeps crashing to the point I have to hard reset after like five minutes of playing. Idk why either cause I've played the game before no real issues but now it keeps crashing

@@francoperotto1484 you apperantly just never listened to the story or payed attention

the problem is there too many op builds that the enemy has zero response to, a game where you can't lose is not a fun game after all.

I’ve enjoyed making a build focused around quickhacking and cold blood perks that stack with netrunning. It’s pretty damn fun. Game is buggy as hell, but it’s still a lot of fun. I really don’t think it’s nearly as bad as people say, but mileage may vary depending on if they’re PC, old gen, new gen consoles, ect. So I get it, just can’t deny the fun I’m having with the game.

Lmao I feel bad for you gonks who watched the anime first and started playing this. You have no idea how disappointed you’ll be when you play

@@SOSOLRAK Actually playing it right now and being far from disappointed.

@@Scorptice just wait.

Yeah, cyberpsychosis in the original Cyberpunk 2013/20 RPG is complete nonsense, as you'd expect from something written in the 80s by one dude without any education in psychology. I don't agree with all of 2077s changes with the lore, but retconning cyberpsychosis into being fake in universe was the correct choice.

Not for V. Don’t you remember eliminating cyberpsychos for Regina?

@@akaJRob If you read the data on why the cyberpsychos went psycho it has little to do with "cyberpsychosis" and more to do with various kinds of extreme trauma.

@@cyberdaemonfive you say “they went psycho” then proceed to say it has little to do with cyberpsychosis bro their called cyberpsycho’s for a reason

@@cyberdaemonfive the whole thing with cyberpsychosis is that it’s a mixture of extreme trauma and increased use of cyberware. It’s not one or the other, we see throughout the show that is the case as well, with Maine and David going Cyberpyscho because of their increased use of cyberware and extreme trauma. Anyways there’s only one definitive way to counter cyberpsychosis that 2077 made canon, which is turning your consciousness into an engram, which is what happened to both Smasher and V.

Don't think people would be very happy if V became a child predator

Feel bad for the developers but I’m still glad they turned it around and honestly for what it is and how the game ended up turning out it’s amazing. I hope more games like this come out in the future… with less bugs ofc on release 😂

Companies do things out of money, people do things out of love. Companies are not people.

I think we will in the future but not a sequel to 2077 this was just one of many stories that happened in the cyberpunk universe and there’s many more to tell and make

@@EternalNightingale oh that's dope i didnt know that

It doesn't have to function the same way as the tabletop. It could make our character see red lines/malware coding on the screen, enemies that are actually civilians, so when you shoot them you get a bounty, affected dialogue choices, stuff like that.

Table top is one thing but the show and game implies its a like rage that just over comes u. And can be treated. I don't know if right, but it reminds me of soldiers coming back with ptsd. The change of being deployed to normal life isn't easy. Soldiers are trained, yes, but now imagine 100k to 1million dollars of military cyberware installed.... thats a nasty picture